06-15-2007, 03:33 AM
Within the context of say AIT not have originated beyond "Akhand Bharat map", and lets assume up to Iranian region. Now, per vedas there is a lot of mention about Saraswati river and the whole dried up bed being studied by Indian scientists giving validity that Aryans weren't outside this map. Sounds like a logical conclusion.
But, what perplexes me is that there exists no equivalent texts other than the vedas or similar texts that is old enough to say Cauvery or some other southern Indian rivier being mentioned. What i am trying to analyze is (mating myth v/s science), how far back we can go and whether people who existed in southern lands was really different (race, langauge, color, religion, etc)?
All the migratory history points to North. I know there is a bunch of people who would bash spence wells left right and center, from a prejudiced view.. but instead of bashing, why not try to use his data for reasonings. He also mentions different time points of originations.
What I am thinking is this.. Lets say we had a previous migration (pre ice-age (no figures taken here for argument)) that predominated all coastal areas of India X years ago. And the Vedic migration happend Y years ago, and for argument sake I am putting X is much greater than Y, at least 20,000 years (going by again the melanin color change time requirements), sope we could easily attribute two different major type of migratory people existed in our land.
Another interesting point is post ice age, it could be all that chimpz mutating to humans happened for 100s and thousands of years independently at various places where the chimps migrated. We (spencer) are measuring and doing DNA studies only on humans.. Perhaps they should do with the chimps and monkey types. That would also link up with Valies, Hanumans and Jambavan time periods. In the ramayana myths, there is always reference to Hanuman having born (argument: say having procreated from a DNA chain that belongs to the previous yuga).
Perhaps that could lead more evidence to different human species(=race) or categories exists today, originated and mutated after chimp migration periods pre ice-age. That would perhaps clear why spencers adam and eve have different time points.
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But, what perplexes me is that there exists no equivalent texts other than the vedas or similar texts that is old enough to say Cauvery or some other southern Indian rivier being mentioned. What i am trying to analyze is (mating myth v/s science), how far back we can go and whether people who existed in southern lands was really different (race, langauge, color, religion, etc)?
All the migratory history points to North. I know there is a bunch of people who would bash spence wells left right and center, from a prejudiced view.. but instead of bashing, why not try to use his data for reasonings. He also mentions different time points of originations.
What I am thinking is this.. Lets say we had a previous migration (pre ice-age (no figures taken here for argument)) that predominated all coastal areas of India X years ago. And the Vedic migration happend Y years ago, and for argument sake I am putting X is much greater than Y, at least 20,000 years (going by again the melanin color change time requirements), sope we could easily attribute two different major type of migratory people existed in our land.
Another interesting point is post ice age, it could be all that chimpz mutating to humans happened for 100s and thousands of years independently at various places where the chimps migrated. We (spencer) are measuring and doing DNA studies only on humans.. Perhaps they should do with the chimps and monkey types. That would also link up with Valies, Hanumans and Jambavan time periods. In the ramayana myths, there is always reference to Hanuman having born (argument: say having procreated from a DNA chain that belongs to the previous yuga).
Perhaps that could lead more evidence to different human species(=race) or categories exists today, originated and mutated after chimp migration periods pre ice-age. That would perhaps clear why spencers adam and eve have different time points.
!?!?