09-17-2008, 11:42 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->> > - What is the root of Aryan?
>
> By the Rg Vedic times, the Aryan has come to mean simply 'noble'.
No, that is a post-Vedic usage, attested in the Buddha's "four noble
truths".
<An Anarya
> simply denotes your enemy, not necessarily some one who is
ethnically
> different from you - something like you are always 'truthful and
fair"
> whereas your enemy, whether he is your neighbour, brother or some
one across
> the seas is always ' dishonest and unfair"
>
No, that too is post-Vedic usage. As Shrikant Talageri has shown in
full detail, covering every single instance, in the Rg-Veda "Arya"
always means the members of the ethnic Paurava tribe, whether friends
or traitors, while Anarya means non-Pauravas (e.g. Aikshvakus,
Yadavas, Anavas), whether friend or enemy. Likewise in the Avesta,
Airiia denotes the Iranians, regardless of character or allegiance,
excluding the Pauravas and all other non-Iranians. An Arya may very
well be unfair, as long as he is a Paurava. Thus, the arch-Arya, king
Sudas who defeated the Ten Kings, was an imperialist who had invaded
their lands. Arya has no ethical connotation but simply means "us",
Anarya "them".
> The efforts on the part of Orientalists to read ethnic connotations
into the
> word have brought much falsifications into Indian Historiography.
>
Nuts!
KE, orientalist and proud to be one<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
>
> By the Rg Vedic times, the Aryan has come to mean simply 'noble'.
No, that is a post-Vedic usage, attested in the Buddha's "four noble
truths".
<An Anarya
> simply denotes your enemy, not necessarily some one who is
ethnically
> different from you - something like you are always 'truthful and
fair"
> whereas your enemy, whether he is your neighbour, brother or some
one across
> the seas is always ' dishonest and unfair"
>
No, that too is post-Vedic usage. As Shrikant Talageri has shown in
full detail, covering every single instance, in the Rg-Veda "Arya"
always means the members of the ethnic Paurava tribe, whether friends
or traitors, while Anarya means non-Pauravas (e.g. Aikshvakus,
Yadavas, Anavas), whether friend or enemy. Likewise in the Avesta,
Airiia denotes the Iranians, regardless of character or allegiance,
excluding the Pauravas and all other non-Iranians. An Arya may very
well be unfair, as long as he is a Paurava. Thus, the arch-Arya, king
Sudas who defeated the Ten Kings, was an imperialist who had invaded
their lands. Arya has no ethical connotation but simply means "us",
Anarya "them".
> The efforts on the part of Orientalists to read ethnic connotations
into the
> word have brought much falsifications into Indian Historiography.
>
Nuts!
KE, orientalist and proud to be one<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->