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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->> > Cotton from the Sind (Indus) valley was sent to Mesopotamia and
the
> > land of the Greeks and they call cotton as Sindon, named after
> > Sind.
><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->> You seem to be echoing here K.D. Sethna's old hypothesis that Greek
> sindo:n 'fine woven cloth, fine linen, garment, blanket etc. made
> thereof' -- therefore, a word NOT meaning 'cotton'! -- was a loan
> from a putative Assyrian form sindhu referring to cotton from India
> (= Sindhu). Yet Sethna, after corresponding with the reputed
> Assyriologist S.N. Kramer, who told him that the attested Assyrian
> word is sintu 'some kind of fur or woolen stuff' and not sindhu,
> dropped this etymological hypothesis of his<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Did S.N. Kramer actually suggest that the assyrian script would
actually have to denote a voiced aspirate for the word to be an indic
loan.
lets remember voiced aspirates are unpronouncable outside India and if
such words were loaned then they would be substituted.
Perhaps an etymology for assyrian sintu can be established with some
amount of rigour that totally excludes any indic loan. But neither
your post nor the link suggest this at all.
Instead you mention the following:
Assyrian sintu 'some kind of woolen stuff'
greek sindo:n 'fine woven cloth, fine linen, garment, blanket etc'
S.N Kramer's objection is clearly not brought out here.
Both seem to suggest a cognate suspiciously close to a textile such as
cotton.
Ofcourse Sindhis would never call cotton as sindhu just as mordern
kashmiris would never refer to cashmere apparel as such. Much as
Herodotus would not refer to all greeks as Ionians.
lets consider now:
<b>Hebrew sa:di:n 'linen untercloth, kind of shirt'
Assyrian sadinnu or sudinnu 'garment' a rectangular piece of linen
even mordern indic sADI, sARI</b>
this could easily be a separate cognate unrelated to sintu/sindhu.
In fact this only reinforces the argument that there are two separate
cognates and that greek sindon is unrelated to assyrian sudinnu or
hebrew sa:di:n
lastly lets consider the contrived argument that
although greek sindon is a semitic loan word from hebrew/assyrian, it
is actually cognate with sudinnu rather than with sintu to which it is
a closer phonetic match.
Rather than illustrate an example of what a critical tinker K.D.
Sethna is , it rather seems to suggest that either he is gullible or
rather willingly let a "white guy" pull the wool over his eyes(Pun
intended) to curry some hypothetical laurels.
Is Indus cotton in sight? quite possible but not conclusive. If the
word root in question had been of European origin its treatment would
follow a predictable trend that we know so well and not be subject to
any critical analysis!!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->> > Cotton from the Sind (Indus) valley was sent to Mesopotamia and
the
> > land of the Greeks and they call cotton as Sindon, named after
> > Sind.
><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->> You seem to be echoing here K.D. Sethna's old hypothesis that Greek
> sindo:n 'fine woven cloth, fine linen, garment, blanket etc. made
> thereof' -- therefore, a word NOT meaning 'cotton'! -- was a loan
> from a putative Assyrian form sindhu referring to cotton from India
> (= Sindhu). Yet Sethna, after corresponding with the reputed
> Assyriologist S.N. Kramer, who told him that the attested Assyrian
> word is sintu 'some kind of fur or woolen stuff' and not sindhu,
> dropped this etymological hypothesis of his<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Did S.N. Kramer actually suggest that the assyrian script would
actually have to denote a voiced aspirate for the word to be an indic
loan.
lets remember voiced aspirates are unpronouncable outside India and if
such words were loaned then they would be substituted.
Perhaps an etymology for assyrian sintu can be established with some
amount of rigour that totally excludes any indic loan. But neither
your post nor the link suggest this at all.
Instead you mention the following:
Assyrian sintu 'some kind of woolen stuff'
greek sindo:n 'fine woven cloth, fine linen, garment, blanket etc'
S.N Kramer's objection is clearly not brought out here.
Both seem to suggest a cognate suspiciously close to a textile such as
cotton.
Ofcourse Sindhis would never call cotton as sindhu just as mordern
kashmiris would never refer to cashmere apparel as such. Much as
Herodotus would not refer to all greeks as Ionians.
lets consider now:
<b>Hebrew sa:di:n 'linen untercloth, kind of shirt'
Assyrian sadinnu or sudinnu 'garment' a rectangular piece of linen
even mordern indic sADI, sARI</b>
this could easily be a separate cognate unrelated to sintu/sindhu.
In fact this only reinforces the argument that there are two separate
cognates and that greek sindon is unrelated to assyrian sudinnu or
hebrew sa:di:n
lastly lets consider the contrived argument that
although greek sindon is a semitic loan word from hebrew/assyrian, it
is actually cognate with sudinnu rather than with sintu to which it is
a closer phonetic match.
Rather than illustrate an example of what a critical tinker K.D.
Sethna is , it rather seems to suggest that either he is gullible or
rather willingly let a "white guy" pull the wool over his eyes(Pun
intended) to curry some hypothetical laurels.
Is Indus cotton in sight? quite possible but not conclusive. If the
word root in question had been of European origin its treatment would
follow a predictable trend that we know so well and not be subject to
any critical analysis!!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->