03-01-2008, 07:45 AM
Saint Sekkizhar School of Saiva Siddhantam and
TRN Memorial Library and International Research Centre.
Phone 04362 â 236842
Director: Dr.T.N.Ramachandran D.Litt (Jaffna).Member expert committee; representative in Tamil as Classical language.
Central Institute for Indian Languages. Mysore. GOI.
R.Subbarayalu. Deputy Director. SSSD.
Former Registrar Tamil University, Thanjavur.
GP.Srinivasan. Curator (TRN Memorial Library)
To:
Mr.Adithya Sinha,
Executive Editor,
The Indian Express Group
Ambattur Industrial estate
Chennai.
Dear Mr. Sinha,
We refer to God, Karunanidhi, and Pre-Brahmin Glory, written by TJS George, journalist & advisor to the new Indian express group, and new Sunday Indian Express , Feb 23, 2008.
To introduce ourselves: Ours is a specialized research centre with emphasis on Tamil and Classical Indian literature. We have published around 150 books and monographs, and innumerable papers in Tamil and English. We have also guided students for research in literature, religion, heritage and architecture at both Doctoral and Post Doctoral levels .Students from India and far away Harvard University have utilsed our expertise. We have a rare collection of 70000 plus books and manuscripts in Tamil and other languages. To mention we also have two books authored by TJS George on "MS Subbalakshmi" and another book "Politics the first resort of Scoundrels".
How can we choose not to give a rebuttal to our friend TJS George, whom we used regard, when his analysis on "God, Karunanidhi, and Pre-Brahmin Glory" is based on Colonial Christian notions, faulty premises and biased data? This line of reply to TJS George is only a skeleton rebuttal without going to level 2 and 3.
Thanking You,
Regards,
Dr.T.N.Ramachandran , R.Subbarayalu & GP.Srinivasan
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
Oddâ¦Very odd! George!
By Dr. TN.Ramachandran, GP.Srinivasan & R.Subbarayalu
1. Philanthropy?
What has M.Karunanidhi to do with Philanthropy? He wants to make his family a dynasty. For this purpose he leaves "no stone unturned, no wires unpulled and no cutlet uncooked". (Quote from Winston Churchill). Philanthropy never upset established traditions. It fosters them. His "Tamil-New-Year innovation bespeaks his flair for flouting sacred Hindu Traditions.
2. Is Karunanidhi an Atheist?
Who said Karunanidhi is an atheist, as the term is commonly understood. His sort of Atheism is anti-Hinduism. He willingly participates in Iftar parties and sees his participation is highlighted in the media. Islam is dead against atheism.
3. Brahmin Hinduism a misnomer
There is no such thing as Brahminic Hinduism. Hinduism is Vedic and Agamic. Its denigrators, it is notorious, are Christian missionaries. These missionaries can take shelter in the Hindu modes of worship with a view to uprooting them.
4. Confessions of Max Muller:
Muller was employed to translate the Vedas and he himself has confessed that he has done enough to uproot the Vedas.
5. 'Yosur Vedam'
Veeramamunivar, popularly known as Beschi padiriyar donned himself in a guise of Hindu Sadhu to propagate his mission. Roberto De Nobili indited a Veda called" Yosur Vedam" (the Vedam of Jesus) all the while calling himself an Italian Brahmin. It is to be noted that all padres called themselves as Aiyars or Brahmins.
6. Gospel of Hatred
EVR advisedly fostered hatred towards Brahmins .He did not mince matters. However his contribution towards fostering self respect always bordered on his Gospel of Hatred and nothing else.
7. Myth of Brahmin Hegemony
Brahmin hegemony is a myth. Please see the complete works of Dharampal.His "Beautiful tree", and other works have debunked the myth which still holds the field as Dharampal's works are yet to become popular. It is well known that the missionaries are still doing their worst to draw an Iron-Curtain over his works.
8. Vedic Hinduism
Vedic Hinduism thrives by its inner Spiritual strength .Persons in guise or disguise can neither advance nor retard its march.
9. Vedas are unimpeachable
The certitudes of the Vedas are unimpeachable. The reformist poet Bharthi declared that the ambrosial and sustaining strength inherent in the Vedic way of life should become ours.
10. Abuse of Power
Buddhism and Jainism declined as by their abuse of Power; they stultified themselves. The Buddhist Reign in Srilanka will not go unnoticed for a long time.
11. Does Segregation mean quarantine?
Does Segregation mean quarantine? Healthy segregation keeps things intact. Such Segregation is not destructive at all. (Rishis went into forests to live secluded lives. This far away from the maddening crowd was discovered by Ralph Waldo Emerson in the 18th century USA.)
12. Never cease learning
Hinduism believes in the maxim: Loka Samastha sukhino Bhavanthu {let the whole world thrive in comfort}. Hinduism never closed its door to the less fortunate.Tthe famous Hindu Poetess Avvaiyyar appealed to the whole mankind thus: "Oduvathu Ozhiyel". Never cease from learning.
13. Equality line
Equality Line spoken by George is a figment of fevered imagination. The invention of duplicitous nomenclature is political gimmick.
14. What is odd? What does George mean? What happened to the 20 lakhs Buddhist Viharas, Stupas, Temples, Monasteries and their libraries that disappeared during the reign of Chairman Mao?
15. What happened to Bamiyan Buddhas?
What happened to the Statues of highest of Buddhas in Bamian Afghanistan? What is the present State of Tibet? Where are the Llamas hiding? Odd. Very odd. Before our eyes Nepal is being swallowed by aliens. (The Shaolin monastery is a Show piece to display martial arts to foreign tourists and attract foreign investments) .
16. AIT â a political myth
The Aryan Dravidian Dichotomy is again a political myth. It is panjandrums who perpetuate these pet shibboleths.
17. All three Acharyas fostered Vedic and Agamic Traditions
All three Acharyas Samkara, Ramanuja and Madhva fostered the Vedic and Agamic traditions. Basava the Brahmin was rebel. His teachings captivated the downtrodden of Karnataka. However the situation in KARNATKA is back TO SQUARE ONE.
18. Adi Samkara Called Buddha as Emperor of Yogis
TJS.George is making comfortable assertions in the air. Many of Sangham Poets were Brahmins. We are not going into the details. Tolkappier was a Brahmin. Valluvar holds righteous Brahmins in great respect. George conveniently forgets that the great Samkara himself was all admiration for Gautama Buddha. He hailed Buddha as the "Emperor of yogis".
19. Etymological meaning of 'Dravidian'
George says Dravidian Politics may indeed be overwhelmed by Brahmin politics. What does the word Dravidian mean? The Dravidian Desa is the entire south, below the Vindhya ranges. Dravidian does not mean any other political party in whose names the word Dravidian is inserted.
20 Conclusions
What is Brahminic politics? Who are these unspecified politicians? There is neither 'Point' nor 'View' in the point of view of Mr. George â¦Odd very Odd indeed Mr. TJS George.
To be continuedâ¦.. If necessary
TRN Memorial Library and International Research Centre.
Phone 04362 â 236842
Director: Dr.T.N.Ramachandran D.Litt (Jaffna).Member expert committee; representative in Tamil as Classical language.
Central Institute for Indian Languages. Mysore. GOI.
R.Subbarayalu. Deputy Director. SSSD.
Former Registrar Tamil University, Thanjavur.
GP.Srinivasan. Curator (TRN Memorial Library)
To:
Mr.Adithya Sinha,
Executive Editor,
The Indian Express Group
Ambattur Industrial estate
Chennai.
Dear Mr. Sinha,
We refer to God, Karunanidhi, and Pre-Brahmin Glory, written by TJS George, journalist & advisor to the new Indian express group, and new Sunday Indian Express , Feb 23, 2008.
To introduce ourselves: Ours is a specialized research centre with emphasis on Tamil and Classical Indian literature. We have published around 150 books and monographs, and innumerable papers in Tamil and English. We have also guided students for research in literature, religion, heritage and architecture at both Doctoral and Post Doctoral levels .Students from India and far away Harvard University have utilsed our expertise. We have a rare collection of 70000 plus books and manuscripts in Tamil and other languages. To mention we also have two books authored by TJS George on "MS Subbalakshmi" and another book "Politics the first resort of Scoundrels".
How can we choose not to give a rebuttal to our friend TJS George, whom we used regard, when his analysis on "God, Karunanidhi, and Pre-Brahmin Glory" is based on Colonial Christian notions, faulty premises and biased data? This line of reply to TJS George is only a skeleton rebuttal without going to level 2 and 3.
Thanking You,
Regards,
Dr.T.N.Ramachandran , R.Subbarayalu & GP.Srinivasan
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
Oddâ¦Very odd! George!
By Dr. TN.Ramachandran, GP.Srinivasan & R.Subbarayalu
1. Philanthropy?
What has M.Karunanidhi to do with Philanthropy? He wants to make his family a dynasty. For this purpose he leaves "no stone unturned, no wires unpulled and no cutlet uncooked". (Quote from Winston Churchill). Philanthropy never upset established traditions. It fosters them. His "Tamil-New-Year innovation bespeaks his flair for flouting sacred Hindu Traditions.
2. Is Karunanidhi an Atheist?
Who said Karunanidhi is an atheist, as the term is commonly understood. His sort of Atheism is anti-Hinduism. He willingly participates in Iftar parties and sees his participation is highlighted in the media. Islam is dead against atheism.
3. Brahmin Hinduism a misnomer
There is no such thing as Brahminic Hinduism. Hinduism is Vedic and Agamic. Its denigrators, it is notorious, are Christian missionaries. These missionaries can take shelter in the Hindu modes of worship with a view to uprooting them.
4. Confessions of Max Muller:
Muller was employed to translate the Vedas and he himself has confessed that he has done enough to uproot the Vedas.
5. 'Yosur Vedam'
Veeramamunivar, popularly known as Beschi padiriyar donned himself in a guise of Hindu Sadhu to propagate his mission. Roberto De Nobili indited a Veda called" Yosur Vedam" (the Vedam of Jesus) all the while calling himself an Italian Brahmin. It is to be noted that all padres called themselves as Aiyars or Brahmins.
6. Gospel of Hatred
EVR advisedly fostered hatred towards Brahmins .He did not mince matters. However his contribution towards fostering self respect always bordered on his Gospel of Hatred and nothing else.
7. Myth of Brahmin Hegemony
Brahmin hegemony is a myth. Please see the complete works of Dharampal.His "Beautiful tree", and other works have debunked the myth which still holds the field as Dharampal's works are yet to become popular. It is well known that the missionaries are still doing their worst to draw an Iron-Curtain over his works.
8. Vedic Hinduism
Vedic Hinduism thrives by its inner Spiritual strength .Persons in guise or disguise can neither advance nor retard its march.
9. Vedas are unimpeachable
The certitudes of the Vedas are unimpeachable. The reformist poet Bharthi declared that the ambrosial and sustaining strength inherent in the Vedic way of life should become ours.
10. Abuse of Power
Buddhism and Jainism declined as by their abuse of Power; they stultified themselves. The Buddhist Reign in Srilanka will not go unnoticed for a long time.
11. Does Segregation mean quarantine?
Does Segregation mean quarantine? Healthy segregation keeps things intact. Such Segregation is not destructive at all. (Rishis went into forests to live secluded lives. This far away from the maddening crowd was discovered by Ralph Waldo Emerson in the 18th century USA.)
12. Never cease learning
Hinduism believes in the maxim: Loka Samastha sukhino Bhavanthu {let the whole world thrive in comfort}. Hinduism never closed its door to the less fortunate.Tthe famous Hindu Poetess Avvaiyyar appealed to the whole mankind thus: "Oduvathu Ozhiyel". Never cease from learning.
13. Equality line
Equality Line spoken by George is a figment of fevered imagination. The invention of duplicitous nomenclature is political gimmick.
14. What is odd? What does George mean? What happened to the 20 lakhs Buddhist Viharas, Stupas, Temples, Monasteries and their libraries that disappeared during the reign of Chairman Mao?
15. What happened to Bamiyan Buddhas?
What happened to the Statues of highest of Buddhas in Bamian Afghanistan? What is the present State of Tibet? Where are the Llamas hiding? Odd. Very odd. Before our eyes Nepal is being swallowed by aliens. (The Shaolin monastery is a Show piece to display martial arts to foreign tourists and attract foreign investments) .
16. AIT â a political myth
The Aryan Dravidian Dichotomy is again a political myth. It is panjandrums who perpetuate these pet shibboleths.
17. All three Acharyas fostered Vedic and Agamic Traditions
All three Acharyas Samkara, Ramanuja and Madhva fostered the Vedic and Agamic traditions. Basava the Brahmin was rebel. His teachings captivated the downtrodden of Karnataka. However the situation in KARNATKA is back TO SQUARE ONE.
18. Adi Samkara Called Buddha as Emperor of Yogis
TJS.George is making comfortable assertions in the air. Many of Sangham Poets were Brahmins. We are not going into the details. Tolkappier was a Brahmin. Valluvar holds righteous Brahmins in great respect. George conveniently forgets that the great Samkara himself was all admiration for Gautama Buddha. He hailed Buddha as the "Emperor of yogis".
19. Etymological meaning of 'Dravidian'
George says Dravidian Politics may indeed be overwhelmed by Brahmin politics. What does the word Dravidian mean? The Dravidian Desa is the entire south, below the Vindhya ranges. Dravidian does not mean any other political party in whose names the word Dravidian is inserted.
20 Conclusions
What is Brahminic politics? Who are these unspecified politicians? There is neither 'Point' nor 'View' in the point of view of Mr. George â¦Odd very Odd indeed Mr. TJS George.
To be continuedâ¦.. If necessary