08-02-2011, 02:21 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-02-2011, 04:42 AM by Bharatvarsh2.)
Quote:(Why mention recent geography? Don't you know the history of that temple? It's both an ancestral Kovil of many Malayalees and Tamizhs, kuladevas to both. Of course, it's also a kShetra of pilgrimage to all ethnic Hindus of the subcontinent.)
No one else corrected him. In this case silence will be construed as acquiescence. (You are only the first person to say it was a stupid suggestion. But not until now, though.)
But the point made at the stage was not even about that particular Kovil anymore: it was that Balbir Punj (and any others like him who want to turn any Hindu Kovils into tourist centres) - no one criticised him, I note - can try arguing for such unforgivable things in their own locality (i.e. about the temples of their own kuladevas), I'm sure they'll soon be disinvited by the locals. But they have even less right to sell off Kovils elsewhere.* But as I'm hardly allowed allowed to issue uninvites to Kovils shared with Malayalees or all Kovils India-wide, I can at least do so for my own ancestral Kovils. (Note reference to gangreen.)
You really should stop going on and on about "North Indian" vs "South Indian" - like I care - and "Tamizh" vs "Non-Tamizh" as if I would ever make these arguments generally.
And, as I recall, I spent an inordinate amount of my free time doing (obviously futile) stuff for the poor Kashmiri Hindus protecting their=my Amarnatha. And I've never even been there. (But did you see me threatening to turn that Kovil into a "tourist" attraction? As if I would ever. And I don't remember anyone else harping on the threat to Pashupatinatha Kovil on IF. I've never been there either... Clearly - and you *know* all that - I don't really distinguish between the Nepali, the Kashmiri and Tamizh Hindus, so the obvious conclusion is that the form of my argument meant something else.)
You *dont* remember do you, well that's convenient. Go check the Nepal thread and one of the earliest warnings about the Pashupathinath mandir came from Bodhi.
Quote:Unfortunate but not surprising.
Next will be the host of other important Hindu shrines and maTha-s including Gorakshamatha and Devi Pattan, that were protected by the royal family and even Nepali government. Next we would see burning of ancient libraries so far maintained by Bhatt�s. Only a few years back a team of German-American Indologists Led by anti-hindu Witzel had digitized most of these manuscripts, including probably some rare ones relating to tantra, vyAkaraNa, shaiva siddhAnta and mahAyAna buddhism, which are otherwise are not accessible to the rest of the world.) Next, they would bring down the roadblocks which have so far prohibited missionary activity in Nepal. Cultural Revolution in Mao�s footsteps.
http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index....e__st__240
Quote:So, here it is as predicted before...
After kumArI tradition, indradhwaja tradition, and tradition of Nepal's Royals being the first to offer prayers at gorakShanAtha and devI pATeshwarI during the sacred navarAtri-s... now another attempt of secularization at the famed shrine of Lord pashupati.
Indeed, as they say, Maoists have designs from Tirupati to Pashupati...
http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index....e__st__260
Quote:No one else corrected him. In this case silence will be construed as acquiescence. (You are only the first person to say it was a stupid suggestion. But not until now, though.)
Now what does this have to do with my very specific questions to you?
Not everyone has the time to write long, verbose posts about each and every article we dislike. My posting on this forum has been much reduced than in the past.
Quote:You really should stop going on and on about "North Indian" vs "South Indian" - like I care - and "Tamizh" vs "Non-Tamizh" as if I would ever make these arguments generally.
Do quote posts where I went on & on about North and South India, seems like a case of projection.
You made the arguement here so I responded.
Quote:What? What?
And I was referring to Tamizh Hindus Kovils not "Tamizhs".
To refresh your memory about where you turned it into non Tamils vs Tamils:
Quote:Anyone else try this sort of thing again and all non-Tamizhs can permanently consider themselves desdecardos vis-a-vis Tamizh Hindu Kovils. (The gangreen has to be stopped somewhere.)
Quote:* But I forgot, you essentially told me I have no real right to ridicule the concept of "oryans and dravoodians".
Didn't say anything like that, you must be thinking of someone else.
I rarely posted about the AIT issue.
Quote:Kids these days and their arguments. Hold Rwanda up as a parallel of the AIT, and they will tell you to be quiet. When next Rajiv Malhotra or whoever else brings up the same - many years later - they're all worshipful gods.
Ironically, there are many other - IMO quite nasty - parallels to the AIT elsewhere. But I - silently of course, I promise - await the day/month/year (vielleicht niemals?) when those Indians who are allowed to speak on the AIT find these. I'm not holding my breath.
What does this all have to do with the topic at hand?
Seems like you are suffering from some self inflicted victim syndrome.
You are freely allowed to speak about AIT and you have already done so on this very forum, question is did anyone read those 10 page long posts of yours.
If you wrote it all out in a book in a coherent way using formal language and promote the book then you maybe too can become a "worshipful god" and share the "glory" with Mr. Malhotra.
Instead you write emotional 10 page posts spread out over years on an internet forum and then expect people all over the net to notice and hail Husky the anonymous poster at India-forum for pointing out the parallels between AIT and Rwanda.
If you have issues with Mr. Malhotra or his admirers take it up with them or write your own book (or start a blog) instead of bitching about it to me (I don't remember making any posts promoting his book here), as if I gagged your mouth (what's all this melodramatic nonsense about "promising to silently await"...) from speaking about AIT or any other topic.