01-25-2006, 09:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Jan 25 2006, 09:08 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Jan 25 2006, 09:08 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->and i'd prefer to read the koran in a free india over reading the gita or anything else in a india under poms.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why do you say so?
i meant to say that i'd prefer an indepedent india over anything.
freedom of indians>>>>>>>>>> hinduism, anyday.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->how the hell does gita and other theology factor into a discussion about a war of independence. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It does factor in because Indian Civilization is inseparable from Sanatana Dharma, from its inception Indian nationalism went back to Sanatan Dharma and our scriptures for inspiration, during the 1857 revolt sadhus like Swami Omanand went around and in their appeals they also mentioned religion, the Bengal revolutionaries (in the early stages) used to ask Kali for blessings and used to invoke the Gita, Madhan Lal Dhingra for example had the Gita in his hands before he was executed, the following illustrates my point:
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no what i meant to say was this -
say india under netaji founght a DBP style war with the poms and we had our bloody freedom.
would you say that netaji is still not be considered a hero, cos from a theological stand point he is a murderer??
i think one should judge patriots from a reference frame thats applicable to patriots and nationalists. not from a religious or business or any other stand point.
thats like saying laloo yadav's contribution to the nation is greater than for ex, jaiprakash narain, cos jaiprakesh narain used to drink and eat beef white laloo was a veggie non-alcoholic. now thats not a yardstick i'd apply to political leaders, nevermind dharma. but yes if there was a sadhu who drank scotch then i wouldnt think much of him.
Why do you say so?
i meant to say that i'd prefer an indepedent india over anything.
freedom of indians>>>>>>>>>> hinduism, anyday.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->how the hell does gita and other theology factor into a discussion about a war of independence. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It does factor in because Indian Civilization is inseparable from Sanatana Dharma, from its inception Indian nationalism went back to Sanatan Dharma and our scriptures for inspiration, during the 1857 revolt sadhus like Swami Omanand went around and in their appeals they also mentioned religion, the Bengal revolutionaries (in the early stages) used to ask Kali for blessings and used to invoke the Gita, Madhan Lal Dhingra for example had the Gita in his hands before he was executed, the following illustrates my point:
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no what i meant to say was this -
say india under netaji founght a DBP style war with the poms and we had our bloody freedom.
would you say that netaji is still not be considered a hero, cos from a theological stand point he is a murderer??
i think one should judge patriots from a reference frame thats applicable to patriots and nationalists. not from a religious or business or any other stand point.
thats like saying laloo yadav's contribution to the nation is greater than for ex, jaiprakash narain, cos jaiprakesh narain used to drink and eat beef white laloo was a veggie non-alcoholic. now thats not a yardstick i'd apply to political leaders, nevermind dharma. but yes if there was a sadhu who drank scotch then i wouldnt think much of him.