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<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Oct 25 2006, 06:29 AM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Oct 25 2006, 06:29 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Unfortunately for us, our only prominent national acquaintance is with Sonia Maino(?) Gandhi who, being a devout Catholic, has decided to follow the recent papal declaration/order to convert India to Christendom - like how Helena and her evil son Constantine converted Rome.

I have to say I'm not catholic, most italians are and many of them goes to church just for appearence, but my opinion is that there's something horrible in the way catholics try to convert every place of the world!!
I like Hinduism, my friend are Hare Krisna & I see their faith is sincere, monday I came to an ISKON temple and prayed with them; I also eat the prasada food, really good!!!

You are right to think we are different from ancient romans <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I think you know hold philosopy better than me and better of italian's in general...
Here in Italy many youngs stop their studies early, they don't appreciate culture and in some extreme cases they don't study English, nor French nor any other foreign language!!!
Fortunatly there are also many university students as me that loves to learn news and to make exchanges with other cultures!!
<!--QuoteBegin-Capt Manmohan Kumar+Oct 25 2006, 08:30 AM-->QUOTE(Capt Manmohan Kumar @ Oct 25 2006, 08:30 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->According to some confidant sources, Pizza is replica of Indian Parantha.
Hope you will enjoy your stay on the forum as there is no chat room.
Pizza!! Our pizza can be very different from the pizza you are thinking about...
I have never eaten a Parantha but I think it can be similar but not the same! Let's try: we make th base for pizza with water, meal of the OO kind, fresh yeast, salt, a little bit of oil, then we stretch the bread-base till it reach a circular form.
On it we put Mozzarella, an italian fresh cheese, tomato (NEVER ketchup), some other ingredients as vegetals, slim sliced meat, other cheese...
Then we bake it in a very very hot oven and... ...Good lunch!!!! <!--emo&:drool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='drool.gif' /><!--endemo-->
How do you make a Parantha? Now do you say it's similar to pizza?
<!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Parantha has as many variations as the cook can imagine. Basically, I will say that dishes of Parantha and Pizza belong to same family.
Jalebi is a sweet dish from India but see how this lady is using it:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->funny how at the mention of italy, the first thing that comes to mind to indians is sonia gandhi !!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

How times have changed. In school, the first thing we were taught about Italy was its striking geographical resemblance to India - A peninsula with mountains in the north!
<!--QuoteBegin-utepian+Oct 26 2006, 02:40 AM-->QUOTE(utepian @ Oct 26 2006, 02:40 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->How times have changed. In school, the first thing we were taught about Italy was its striking geographical resemblance to India - A peninsula with mountains in the north!
Interesting! Italy is a peninsula as India and has mountains in the North as India (not so hight!!!) but the climate is different, India is hotter than Italy; usually october here is cold and in december we got less than o°C, but these year it's hotter than usual, may be in the future Italy will have the Indian climate! <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Just yesterday I've read about Indian geography and about the ancient Hindo-Valley population, which lived in the territory that today is divided between Pakistan and India, doesn't it? I've read of the archeological site's near the Hindo river where ruins of fortified cities were found.

About the indipendence of Pakistan and India, I've a question for all: when he city of Lahore passed to Pakistan, Neru called europeans architects to build in Punjab a modern city coming to be is capital Chandrigar.
Now, <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>has anyone of you ever lived in Chandigar? Or ever been at Ch?</span>
Because my feeling is that this city is good because modern but <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>empty</span> of the indian spiryt and personality, isn't it?
I like Italian history until the Roman Empire fell into Christian hands. Seems to me it was a major setback for technology, culture, and philosophy until the modern age.

Erica, Chandigarh was designed based on the ideas of French Architect Le Corbusier. Although a modern city, I doubt it lacks the spirit you are talking of.
<!--QuoteBegin-utepian+Oct 26 2006, 09:58 PM-->QUOTE(utepian @ Oct 26 2006, 09:58 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Erica, Chandigarh was designed based on the ideas of French Architect Le Corbusier. Although a modern city, I doubt it lacks the spirit you are talking of.

YES <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo--> That's what I'm saing, Le Corbusier and his team made a modern city, but whitout any knowledge of Indian's habits, tastes and necessitys, it seems a transplanted city! Also the streets, made for cars, are now full of bicicles and the population is 6times higher than the amount on which the project has been based. <!--emo&:thumbdown--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Erica, what is the climate like in Italy, does it snow all over Italy in winter or only in some parts?

Also how cold does it get, for example here in Canada it can go as low as -30 in winter, what about in Italy?
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Oct 27 2006, 02:10 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Oct 27 2006, 02:10 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Erica, what is the climate like in Italy, does it snow all over Italy in winter or only in some parts?

Also how cold does it get, for example here in Canada it can go as low as -30 in winter, what about in Italy?
Here in Italy in winter the climate is cold in the north area, but less cold then canada! The bottom can be between -8 and -14°C, only on the higher piks of the mountains it can come down to -30. Also remember Italy is on the mediterranean sea, so in the south the climate is more similar to the Spanish one, if in the north the snow comes 5/6 times per year in the south people can also live 5 years without seeing it...
About the summer we got between 30-38°C in the whole Italian soil.
I guess you've never been here, what a pity! come as soon as possible, the best seaside is in Sardinia, for an Art City there's Firenze, for shopping the best is Milano and what else?... ...the food is good everywhere!! <!--emo&:thumbsup--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbup.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbup.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I guess you've never been here, what a pity! come as soon as possible, the best seaside is in Sardinia, for an Art City there's Firenze, for shopping the best is Milano and what else?... ...the food is good everywhere!! <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I plan to visit it one day, I did hear about Sardinia, but I really want to go to Venice, and look at the water canal transport.
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Oct 27 2006, 08:01 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Oct 27 2006, 08:01 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->I plan to visit it one day, I did hear about Sardinia, but I really want to go to Venice, and look at the water canal transport.
Oh yes, Venice is a wonderful city, we have too many beautyful cityes that I can't made a good list! The best seasons in which come are Summer and Spring, good journey!! <!--emo&:thumbsup--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbup.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbup.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dalip Singh Rana, the Hindu World Wrestling star

The recent dramatic entry of Dalip Singh Rana into World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) has brought back to life the interest in the art of wrestling in the land of its origin - India. The sight of the 7ft 3inch, 450 pounds Dalip striding with the worlds most popular wrestlers has evoked memories of the great age of Indian wrestling (or pehlwani)

Dalip Singh Rana, also known as 'The Giant' was born in the village of Dhirana in the Indian state of Himachal Pradesh, as the third of eight children. From a minor age, Dalip had to work as a stonebreaker on the roadside to help support his family.

A local police chief spotted him for his great potential as an athlete, in particular as a bodybuilder, and helped him to enter the police force. The new employment helped young Dalip concentrate on his bodybuilding and athletic training.

After emerging as a succesful professional body builder and wrestler in India, he went on to train as a competitive wrestler in the USA, where he developed the skills necessary to compete on a global stage, enabling him to win numerous wrestling titles. During this period he became known as 'The Great Khali', because he often invokes Goddess Kali during his fights.

In January 2006, Dalip Singh was signed to World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), where he immediately captured the imagination of an international audience. He was tremendously successful, winning all his fight, including a match against the 'Undertaker' at Judgement Day 2006.

The Undertaker eventually beat Dalip in a rematch on August 18 2006. After the match, a profusely bleeding Khali was administered nine stitches to the forehead to close a ghash he had acquired from being struck with a chair. This marked Khali's first ever WWE defeat. Currently Dalip Singh is out of action, having undergone surgery on both knees, but is planning a come back shortly, which is eagerly anticipated by the wrestling world.

The rise of Dalip Singh Rana on the international scene has an additional particularly admirable feature - his dedication to his roots. He is not one of those stars who became succesful only to forget where he came from. A devout follower of the Hindu Saint Ashutosh Maharaj, Dalip says that his dream is to see the land he came from fully developed. He makes good use of his fame, counselling youth in Punjab to help overcome the rampant drug abuse prevalent in that state.

As such he reminds one of the tireless discipline of the traditional Indian wrestler who combined their training with a strict moral code and devotion to dharma.

The Tradition of Wrestling in India

The original term for wrestling in ancient times was 'Mallayuddhya' and is mentioned in ancient texts such as the Vedas and Mahabharata. The discipline is most notably exhibited in the slaying of Kans by Sri Krishna and the dramatic fight of Bheema with Jarasandha. Balarama and Vali were also known as renowned wrestlers

Later under Persian and Turkish infusions the term Pehlwans became popular.

Wrestling in India is not barred by protective limitations in joint locks, etc. like in amateur competitions in the west. Dangals (wrestling competitions) are held at village levels and have their own rules which vary from place to place but usually a win is awarded by either a decision from the a panel of judges, knockouts stoppage or submission, the rules do not allow striking, but do allow the application of many joint locks and submission holds. Chokes, though, are not allowed.

Indian wrestlers achieved remarkable success in the fourth Asian Games in 1962 when all seven Indian contestants achieved a medal, bagging 12 medals between them. A repetition of this performance was witnessed again when all the 8 wrestlers sent to the Commonwealth Games held at Jamaica had the distinction of getting medals for the country.

During the 60's, India was ranked among the first eight or nine wrestling nations of the world and hosted the world wrestling championships in Delhi in 1967.

Despite the modern day decrease in the popularity of the sport amongst Hindus, we have seen with the entry of Dalip Singh, that the art of wrestling has deep enough roots in India's sporting landscape to continue to produce spectacular stars on the world stage.

The guy is a monster:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Fighting talk from Big Brother

No one in their right mind would want to argue with Dalip Singh Rana. Standing 7ft 2in and with biceps like cannonballs, he is politely and rather wearily explaining why it is wrong to question the credentials of his chosen sport: professional wrestling of the WWF variety.

"No. It is a sport. In the Olympics, if you are more than 125kg, you cannot compete. I am 165kg. Television means it just looks more commercial than other sports."

But in other sports the outcome is almost always in doubt. "It is a real fight in the WWF," Rana forcefully insists with what sounds suspiciously like a growl. I think better of asking him about spandex.

While wrestling is an ancient Indian sport and WWF a hit with the country's television audiences, only cricket pulling in more viewers, Rana remains India's sole homegrown international wrestling champion.

Before taking up bodybuilding, Rana worked as a labourer on the roads, but with his new muscles he went on to become Mr India. Moving into wrestling, he won the Asian version of WWF in 2002. Under the pseudonym Big Brother, he claimed the title by beating the Brazilian Silva, another seven-footer with heavy-metal hair.

"I saw WWF on the television and I had been Mr India before. But I thought I could beat these guys," Rana says. "They were big, but not as big as me."

Few people are as big as Rana. His meaty handshake lingers in your memory long after your hand has left his; Indian papers publish pictures of him dwarfing the Rock, the WWF star who was once Rana's sparring partner.

Backed by his international celebrity, Rana has recently turned social activist, and is touring India's capital, New Delhi, to promote his new chain of clubs for aspiring wrestlers. The man who clotheslines people for a living is selling his sport as a suitable refuge from the temptations of teenage India.

"Too many of our young are drinking, smoking and now they are using drugs," he says. "I want them to be strong and healthy. That is why I am starting up the wrestling clubs."

Although Rana's father was large for his day - about 6ft - none of his immediate family is as large as he is. "Yes, I am big even at home." To get this size, he says, takes lot of time in the gym - "Four-hour workout plus two massages every day" - and also a healthy appetite, his daily diet consisting of five chickens washed down by eight litres of milk.

What it does not take, Rana says emphatically, is steroids. "You have to work to build yourself up. Slow and steady wins the race. Steroids are wrong."

Like I said, no one in their right mind would argue with Dalip Singh Rana.
Randeep Ramesh

I'm going to buy new house, so I'm very interested in real estate information sites.
I have found only one portal about for sale by owner.
Do you know any other great news sites about for sale by owner?
Is Meerut University the same as Chaudhary Charan Singh University?
Yes, the name was changed later:

Hallo all!

I would like to explain you my situation: I am working for a financial company in Swiss at the moment. This company is now expanding and would like to start working with Indian people.
What is particular for my company is that we work in totally absence of CONFLICT OF INTEREST. This because we work with 700 of the best financial institutes in the world.
Now, what I am trying to do is to find a list (a LONG list) of independent financial consultants or advisors (not working for banks), that I will contact, in order to explain them the way we work and how they could collaborate with us. In a second time I would meet them personally to give them further and much exhaustive information.

But my problem is that I’m not able to find either this list, nor information about it. This is a real problem for me and my job: this is why I trying to obtain your help!

Please, can you suggest me where I can find this list ore where to search for it? Or maybe…are you this person and are you interested in it?
I really need your help! Thank you…

Welcome to forum. Please don't post the same message again and again. Interested members will contact you.

Thanks in advance.

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1-why is no thread whit neolithic and ancient indian cultures others then Indus-Saraswati one?im sure that are contemporan cultures whit Saraswati one in Bengal,tamil Nadu,Dekkan hills.Why are not mention anywere in history section?
2-Why my post which show that europeans are more genetic similar whit arabs and north africans then whit indians.This single information is enaf to destroy any aryan invasion theory-this information show that wasnt any replacement of dravidians whit aryans.
3-why is no information abt left -hand tantric tibetan buddhism.I read a book in which Dalai Lama is an individual that want to be a kind of pope of buddhists all overand he want to become the leader of the world and impose his religion over all people including indians.The tantric buddhism contain imoral elements and is a deviation of real tantra.Dalai Lama have no love for hinduism.Is just pretending.
4-must be a topic whit dvaita vedenta and vaisnava.as is the main curent of hindu religion-80% of indians folow this curent.
My informations are relative corect .Please check your self as i have no time for details. <!--emo&Smile--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I, Suresh Gupta, a proud citizen of India, adopt the following as my New Year resolution:
- That I shall work for continual improvement of day-to-day life of Indian citizens.
- That my relationship with all other Indians shall be on three levels – emotional, social and national.
- That on emotional level the relationship shall be based on the principles of humanity, as I am a human being and so all other Indians.
- That on social level the relationship shall be based on the principles of peaceful co-existence, as I am a part of the Great Indian Society and so all other Indians.
- That on national level the relationship shall be based on the principles of nationalism, as I am a citizen of Great Indian Nation and so all other Indians.
- That my behavior with all other Indians shall be guided by above principles.
- That my religion, my language, my life-style, my food habits etc., shall be my personal traits.
- That I shall consider religion, language, life-style, food habits etc., of all other Indians as their personal traits, and shall respect them.
- That all my personal traits shall support and strengthen above relationships.
- That based on above relationships, I shall work for creation of a class-less all-Indian society.
- That I do not have any copyright on this manifesto and all Indians are welcome to adopt it in full or part as their manifesto.

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