It would not be inaccurate to say that a crisis exists in contemporary Indian self-consciousness that is injurious to the collective self-esteem of India as a society at large and dis-empowering to the national will and self-confidence in multiple ways. This crisis is eminently amenable to an intellectual solution but requires a synergetic effort on a national and cultural scale that involves a re-evaluation of attitudes negligent of, ignorant of and even deprecatory of the traditional knowledge systems of India, specifically those that pre-dates the Muslim and British occupation and rule. It is a great wonder that so much of our millennial intellectual heritage survives to the present and this itself is proof of the vitality, relevance and applicability of traditional knowledge originating in India and preserved there or abroad. However, that there remains this body of knowledge and the practical methods and methodologies to perpetuate it is insufficient in an atmosphere where traditional knowledge broad in scope and comprehensive of all human concerns, is neglected and under-appreciated by large sectors of the Indian intelligentsia and is reflected on a policy-level, especially in education where Western paradigms, disciplines and methods predominate, reducing much of our traditional knowledge to second-hand status.
A Crisis of Confidence, Apathy and Neglect Threatens the Survival
Of Traditional Knowledge Systems
Dr. Laul Jadusingh
It would not be inaccurate to say that a crisis exists in contemporary Indian self-consciousness that is injurious to the collective self-esteem of India as a society at large and dis-empowering to the national will and self-confidence in multiple ways. This crisis is eminently amenable to an intellectual solution but requires a synergetic effort on a national and cultural scale that involves a re-evaluation of attitudes negligent of, ignorant of and even deprecatory of the traditional knowledge systems of India, specifically those that pre-dates the Muslim and British occupation and rule. It is a great wonder that so much of our millennial intellectual heritage survives to the present and this itself is proof of the vitality, relevance and applicability of traditional knowledge originating in India and preserved there or abroad. However, that there remains this body of knowledge and the practical methods and methodologies to perpetuate it is insufficient in an atmosphere where traditional knowledge broad in scope and comprehensive of all human concerns, is neglected and under-appreciated by large sectors of the Indian intelligentsia and is reflected on a policy-level, especially in education where Western paradigms, disciplines and methods predominate, reducing much of our traditional knowledge to second-hand status.
The remediation of this requires that vigorous efforts be undertaken by practically all levels of Indian society, but especially in government policy to reform and re-vision the educational system to incorporate the traditional sciences, arts and literature in a rigorous way with emphasis on their contemporary applicability and relevance .In practically all fields from psychology to medicine, from economics and politics to arts and literature, philosophy and religion, abundant intellectual capital exists within Indian knowledge systems to encompass all human concerns and have embedded within them practical methodologies that are being earnestly studied and exploited by non-Indians for enlightenment and profit, yet largely neglected by Indians. It is patent that an attitudinal problem is largely responsible for this shameful neglect. But this is not merely an issue of cultural pride or national self-consciousness : it is the potential loss of knowledge that is capable of uplifting Indian society through intellectual enlightenment, political sophistication and practical solutions that can yield benefits on broad fronts within India and internationally.
Not unimportant is the potential economic benefits that may derive from the preservation, propagation through education, research and development of products that should be valued as the common intellectual property of Indian society. Indians should beware lest their intellectual heritage primarily serves to enlighten and profit others .But some may object that it is illegitimate to assert intellectual property rights to knowledge that is of such universal scope and application and that the survivability of traditional knowledge systems can best be facilitated by the rigorous academic disciplines developed in the West.
However, if the Indian intelligentsia cedes this trust to others, the irreparable loss will be for our culture, national self-esteem and profit. Non-Indians have already marginalized Indians in the academic fields dealing with Indic studies in practically every area .Indians who object to whatever bias, distortions and misrepresentations they perceive in the factual content, exegesis, evaluation or methodology of Western academics are ignored or vilified and whatever their learning or expertise might be in their traditional knowledge systems, their competence is questioned. The ongoing and accelerating co-option of the discipline of hatha-yoga and the certification of teachers by mostly non-Indians in the U.S.A. in particular should be of concern to Indians who value their religious and cultural heritage. It must be noted that this phenomenon entails not merely intellectual loss but economic loss as Indians seem willing to passively yield the teaching and practice of this discipline to others while doggedly pursuing Western disciplines, many of which are rapidly incorporating elements of yoga, meditation and , Indian philosophy. Ayurveda is another field where Indians are yielding both teaching and profit to others. However, beyond a campaign to preserve, propagate and economically exploit for the national and cultural self-interest the traditional knowledge on its own terms, another more concerted intellectual effort is required in Indian academia and formulated in government policy.
This effort entails the study of traditional knowledge systems with an emphasis on contemporary relevance and further research and development.
The Philosophical Sophistication of Indic Thought:
Yoga and Phenomenology
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In the philosophical and ideological sphere, traditional Indian philosophy for instance, having thoroughly debated the questions of evolutionism/creationism in terms remarkably parallel to the contemporary debate can contribute much to the vexed and acrimonious dialogue between advocates of the Darwinian evolutionary theory, the scientific orthodoxy, and a resurgent Christian fundamentalism insistent on the literal account of the creation myth of Genesis or the pseudo-scientific theory of Intelligent Design, meant to reconcile the two views. It is instructive that traditional Indian philosophies can offer well-developed theistic creationist accounts of the origin and destiny of the cosmos as well as non-theistic accounts broadly evolutionist in character. The special virtue of the Indian systems in general is the formulation of evolutionist views which do not marginalize the role of consciousness but rather advocate the primacy of consciousness while recognizing the circumscription of mind in embodiment.
The ancient and seminal Sankhya system is arguably a perfect model in this regard: pure abstract consciousness, self-illuminating and self-perceptive is reflected in primordial nature composed of the equilibrium of the three basic properties of clarity-balance(sattva), motility(rajas) and inertia(tamas),disturbing the equilibrium and occasioning the combination and permutations of atoms of the basic elements to produce the conditions favourable for the evolution of organic and non-organic entities including the higher life forms of human and animal life. The pure consciousness is not essentially involved in matter but its reflection therein is sufficient to produce a semblance of consciousness with the development of a highly organized hierarchy of mental and supramental faculties.
Another virtue of this view is that the three basic properties aforementioned are neither categorically material nor mental thus avoiding the dichotomy of mind and matter which is fundamental to Western world-views, scientific or otherwise. In the Sankhya system intelligence (buddhi), mind (manas) and individuality (ahamkara) are integral aspects of nature, not epi-phenomenal. Evolution proceeds as long as the pure consciousness (purusha) is ignorant of its independence from nature (prakriti) but ceases for the individual purusha when recognition of its true nature as distinct from the mind-nature nexus takes place. The Sankhya view affords some truly remarkable parallels to the current scientific and empirical views, cosmological and evolutionary: it has its own version of the singularity principle in the involvement of purusha with prakriti, though this singularity is not strictly a temporal event, it could be said to be more ontological rather than chronological.
The pseudo-involvement of purusha with prakriti may also be construed as a version of the so-called anthropic principle, the contemporary cosmologist's non-theistic substitute for a creator god In common with all main Indian systems, Sankhya is stereological in orientation, i.e. it envisions the "summum bonum" as kaivalya, freedom from all limitations incurred by involvement with the body-mind, hence nature. In this regard it is consonant with the general religious outlook of world-transcendence. However, its ontology, epistemology and psychology are broadly speaking scientific or proto-scientific in its analytical, empirical and naturalistic orientation.
Broader Scope of Indic Philosophy
Though many intriguing parallels between Indic and Western systems of thought it would be inaccurate and presumptuous to assert any complete isomorphism, for while there abstract and conceptual similarities, mainly in ontological and epistemological theory, there are significant divergences in goals, methodology and pedagogy. Even systems such as the phenomenology of Husserl which purport to have developed a comprehensive epistemology and ontology adequate to ground all knowledge and experience and rigorous enough to be acceptable to the empirical demands of experimental science, are lacking in an adequate praxis whereby their declared goal which is to achieve an absolutely presuppositionless knowledge prior to conceptualization and verbalization, can be realized.
The decidedly intellectualistic orientation of contemporary Western philosophy including phenomenology, preclude their investigative methodology from conducting penetrative analyses of sufficient depth to reveal the ground of essential being. This is the stated goal of Husserl's phenomenology, namely, to reveal the ground of being in an unsnythetic act of consciousness called the primordial dator intuition. This is reminiscent of Dharmakirti's definition of direct cognition, pratyaksha as "kalpanaapodha-abhrantam-abhilapa-samsarga-ayogya-pratitih', "exclusive of conceptualization, incapable of coalescing with verbalization", the main difference being that Dharmakirti's emphasis is more epistemological and Husserl's more ontological.
The crucial difference between the Western systems such as phenomenology and the Indic systems grounded in yoga is not that the former is mainly theoretical and philosophical and the latter more mystical and pragmatic as has been asserted ad nauseum, but that the Indic systems have in addition to adequate ontology and epistemology, a yoga practice by which the goal of omniscience and liberation their main stereological goals, are to be realized. Rigorous logic and epistemology (pramana) are integral aspects of the Indic systems, but their aim is to transcend the intellect after exhaustive analyses, thereby to realize that very unsynthetic consciousness to which the phenomenologist theoretically aspire. Many presuppositions hobble the Western systems rendering them incapable of transcending certain conceptual and methodological dilemmas: among these are the Judeo-Christian theological dogmas which insist on the incapacity of man to achieve omniscience and divinity, dualism of matter-mind and the now famous Kantian denial that human knowledge can never develop adequate capacity to directly know noumenon, the realm of essences, in principle unknowable and only indirectly intuitable.
The yogi's presuppositions and goals are the inverse of these. For the yogi, true and objective knowledge can only be achieved in the transcendence of the subject-object dichotomy, the enlightened one can definitely realize omniscience and divinity and all yogic practice is informed by this confidence. The phenomenologist program of phenomenological reduction in three stages of epoch, eidetic reduction and transcendental reduction in which the natural attitude, the naive conventions of belief and perception are suspended and bracketed( set aside) to reveal the ground of being in a primordial dator intuition, is roughly theoretically the equivalent of the yoga's three last stages(angas) of dharana , dhyana and samadhi wherein the object of meditation stands revealed in its true objectivity and the subject-seer is manifest its naked awareness .
But whereas in the epistemology of yoga, the conclusion that is entailed by the coincidence, equivalence and non-duality of subject and object is acceptable as within the scope of its presuppositions, the phenomenologist followers of Husserl were reluctant to admit it as it verged on mysticism. In the yogic theory by contrast, as stated above, the only acceptable conclusion is that true objectivity is non-dual.
A Unified Theory of Knowledge Comports Well With Insights Of Indic Thought:
The trend in scientific epistemology is to arrive at a unified theory of knowledge. In practically all contemporary fields this goal is either being explicitly articulated or implicitly adumbrated. The prevailing scientific paradigm informed by the Cartesian mind-body, observer-observed duality is now universally acknowledged as inadequate and obsolete, incapable of accounting for the subtle material quantum realm as well as the types and varieties of consciousness.
Though challenged by the discoveries of quantum theory and such paradigm shifts as the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, the Cartesian paradigm continues to be the fundamental operative assumption of scientific epistemology and positivist empiricism. Millennia in advance of these developments, Indian thought not only propounded a wide variety of atomic theory, but questioned the very validity of an indivisible atomic unit, favoring instead theories of probability and indeterminism as in the Jaina tenet of syad-vada and anekatva-vada and the Buddhist concepts of radical flux, insubstantiality, emptiness and relativity (sunyata), multi-linear, reciprocal and contigent causation (pratitya-samutpada).
The dialectical logic of Nagarjuna and his Madhyamaka successors which exposed the dilemmas inherent in all theoretical constructs and thereby demonstrated the a priori relativity of all concepts and theories was complemented by a critical theory of cognition formulated in the theory of three perceptual natures (tri-svabhava), namely the constructed (parikalpita), contigent-reciprocal (paratantra) and veridical (parinishpnna) of the Yogachara school of Vasubandhu and Asanga, to provide a framework for a comprehensive epistemology.
A pivotal development with profound implication for ontology, epistemology and pedagogy is the positing of the two levels of truth: relative-conventional (samvritti) and ultimate (pramartha), an originally Buddhist concept which with various degrees of explicitness was adopted by all stereological oriented systems of India. As a pedagogical device (upaya), it facilitated the formulation of targeted graduated discourse (anupurvika katha) directed to different mentalities, intellectual abilities and aptitudes, as a principle of structural ontology it provided the framework for the co-incidence of ontological monism and epistemological relativism. All the above tenets pioneered in Mahayana Buddhism, were incorporated into the syncretic monistic philosophy of Shankara's Advaita-Vedanta, a system which in many respects typifies the Indic philosophical outlook.
. The traditional arts and literature with its aesthetic theory of nine tastes/moods (navarasa/bhava) is another area in which traditional Indian knowledge systems arguably provides inspiration for a unifying aesthetic paradigm of universal applicability. It is incumbent on Indian intellectuals to more stridently advocate the relevance, contemporanity and applicability of the holistic principle and ethos which preponderantly informs Indic thought in areas not exclusively religious or mystical, on an international scale. This is not merely possible but highly feasible and plausible given the emerging global holistic paradigm (owing much inspiration to Indic thought already). In this way, Indic thought may reclaim the prominence it deserves and the intellectual life of the world may be immeasurably enriched. The implication of these Indic concepts and their time-tested methodologies for an emerging holistic world-view should not be under-estimated.
The coincidence of ideological, political and economic factors favours a more proactive attitude; the historical and psychological moments have coalesced. There is an element of Manifest Destiny in this advocacy, but this is not foreign to our outlook or incompatible with our values. The recognition that our millennial culture and civilization has much to contribute to humanity is attested by the missionary initiatives of Ashoka and Vivekananda. The contemporary nuance in this new advocacy must emphasize not merely the religious and mystical aspects of Indic thought, but also its rational and conceptual elements. Competent and articulate exponents should make the case that there is an essentially scientific approach in traditional knowledge system encompassing philosophy and religion, arts and sciences. We should not be timid in asserting that our shastras employ broadly scientific methodologies. Ideologically however, Hindutva must not be narrowly construed: all our Dharmic traditions must be represented and integrated in order to thematically present the insights and intellectual achievements of Indian civilization effectively in a contemporary context.
In our pride of accomplishment a bit of chauvinism may be unavoidable, but if we take to heart the excellent advice of the great Madhyamaka philosopher Chandrakirti, we are likely to maintain a balanced attitude:
"The intelligent person should accept whatever he sees as well explained from whatever source, by thinking of it as his own. Such truth does not abide exclusively with anyone, since it is equally objective for all, and since it is free from attachment and aversion, as sunlight, for instance, works impersonally for everyone with sight." (Chatushataka 12, ad.k.300)
If this universalism and essentially scientific perspective informs our outlook, we are unlikely to falter.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is the man claiming to be the shankaracharya of the Govardhan Math in Puri a fraud? Is he a shankaracharya at all? Apparently, he is on a 'fact-finding' mission in Jammu and Kashmir and has been talking to Hurriyat Conference politicians about the strife in the valley and possible solutions.
A statement issued by Swami Gopalanand Saraswati, official spokesman of the Govardhan Math, said the Puri shankaracharya, Swami Nischalanand Saraswati, is touring Uttar Pradesh and is likely to return on July 1. He told rediff.com that the person claiming to be the Puri shankaracharya was not Swami Nischalanand Saraswati.
Swami Gopalanand said the imposter's real name was Adhokshjananda Tirth. He hails from Varanasi (Benaras) and claims to be a disciple and successor of Swami Niranjandev Devatirtha, the previous shankaracharya of the Puri Math.
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http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/jul/06khan1.htm
Puri Shankaracharya to expose fake godmen
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Gopalanand said <b>there were at least 50 fake Shankaracharyas roaming around in the country </b>claiming to head one or the other math or peeth.
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One NRI Taliban sympathizer in Washington DC in Kaleem Kawaja (author of spare tear for Taliban)
http://www.pakistanlink.com/Community/20...02/01.html
(FYI: Jalebi hag is a regular feature on this link now)
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Look at names here: Admiral Ramu Ramdas, Paki Brigadier Feroz Hassan Khan, John Dayal?
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BTW the Hindu Renaissance site 2 posts above is good.
"A Thematic View of Indian Civilization" iby Michael Danino in the links there is excellent.
Are these recitals of the ENTIRE Rig Veda? Or are they just a part of it?
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"Hindu Dharma Forums" via Kanchiforum:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No true shankaracharya would go to an Islamic gathering and tell them to translate the Qu'ran and spread its teachings to Hindus. It is as I expected. The man in the video is a fake shankaracharya. He goes by the name Madhavanand Saraswati and is a self-proclaimed shankarachraya of Prayag. He is also one of the three claimants for the position of Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. He is not accepted by any Hindu groups, political or religious, and in fact he is opposed by them. Therefore, he has been with other side for a long time ("enemy's enemy is my friend" approach).
Back in 1999, this man was the only "Hindu leader" to meet with the previous pope during his controversial visit to India. Here he is pictured with the Pope.
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10-21-2007, 09:26 AM (This post was last modified: 10-23-2007, 02:24 PM by Husky.)
Navarathri commemorates Durga (Mahishasura Mardhini) saving the world by killing the evil Mahishasura. From what I've heard (long ago - I don't *think* I'm wrong, but I could be or could even have confused it with some other festival, so please check for yourself):
After completing the task, she withdrew to a quiet place to do Yoga. And for the first three days of meditation she remains in Durga form, then she becomes Lakshmi and then finally Saraswati before she ascended again after the 9th day.
I suppose this kinda also represents the 3 Gunas: progression to Sattva Guna. (Although Amman/all three Amman are beyond all the Gunas, naturally.)
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Navarathri also involves Gollu: arranging lots of beautiful statues of Gods, and dolls too. And then there's sundal and sweets to eat.
Nippon also has its own Gollu festival (different from the Hindu celebration of Durga's victory, of course): www.chennaionline.com/specials/navarathiri2002/japanesegolu.asp
<i>Question for Sunder</i> if he gets to read this:
After Navarathri comes Vijaya Dashami (I'm guessing it means Victorious Tenth Day) celebrating Durga's victory over the Asura. But I'm a bit confused. That's referring to 9 nights of battle then (and a victory on the 10th), doesn't it? Then where does the Yoga come in? Or are we celebrating both the battle/victory and commemorating the meditation of Durga-Lakshmi-Saraswati. Or did I confuse occasions/festivals? I didn't think I did... <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sunder, if you read this, I'd much appreciate any clarifying response. Thanks.
10-23-2007, 06:56 PM (This post was last modified: 10-23-2007, 07:12 PM by Bodhi.)
vijaya dashami shubhakanksha to all, and may devi bless everyone with peace and strength of all types.
This Nava ratri, I was blessed with the opportunity to visit these three important places:
- sri pATeswarI devI sakti pITha at pATan overseeing nepal, the deity of ex-royal family
- 12/13th century sri-har-mandir of mAlIpur in central bihar, a unique - sri rAma-siva temple, like at rAmeswaram - but, less known and visited
- srAvasti-jetavana anandabodhi-mahavihara in balarampur UP, where bhagawan buddha is said to have spent 24 chatur-masa-s of his life.
Visiting the native place after a few years, I was delighted to notice that "navaratri-smell" is still intact - that potent smell which would invite and invoke sacredness in any heart - that smell coming from ghee, karpur, mango-wood samidha, agar, and other havan sAmagrI buring in the yagya-vedikA during the sacred days - the smell kind of settles into everything, and remains wherever you go. Men and women - young and old, everyone - kind of drunk of happiness, devI blessing everyone. children, all, in a different joy, playfully enjoying the navaratri.
Celebrating navarAtri has also been transformed in many ways. Here in Bihar, east UP and even Nepal, it used to be largely a private affair (except rama-lila), quite unlike how it is in Bangal/Gujarat tradition of navaratri "celebration". But now, one can notice large panDAl-s in every colony and every crossroad, artistic mUrtIs of many types (imported from Bengal), various social activities accompanying the celebration, music etc, and in all a lot of public interest and so on.
This is a new trend for this region - emerging in the last 5 years. People here have suddenly taken to durgA pujA "celebrations" like duck to water. I can not describe enough.
- Every locality has a durgA-pujA celebration committee and paNDAl of its own managed by teenagers/youth.
- "Jai Bhawani", just like "Jai Sri Ram" of earlier, could be heard as kind of a new greeting, blessing, slogan, or a war-cry. ("war cry" - because of the enthusiasm it is shouted with, sometimes followed by 'Har Har Mahadev' or at places even with 'Jai Shivaji')
- The puplic celebrations are particularly popular in SC/OBC communities, majority led by these groups anyways. Still the committees cut across jAti and political affiliations.
- In muslim-dominated/populated areas, this is even more popular amongst the Hindus.
- Emergence of durga pUjA popularity in this region has kind of diverted the traditional interest in ramalIlA - another event that takes place these days. vijayA dashami - the day which is otherwise seen as the day of burning rAvaNa-kumbhakarNa-indrajIta, received less attendance and interest than before, as people were tired after the pratimA visarjana process.
- "pUjA" has still not acquired the commercial angle - like in Gujarat/Mumbai/Bengal, although the shopkeepers seemed doing a much better business than ever.
vijaya dashami greetings to all, once again. may bhagwan sri rama bless all.
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Or is it just a Gandhian product labeled as Hinduism as usual?
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The slogan "Sarva dharma samabhava", or "equal respect for all religions" is not a part of Hindu tradition, it is a recent creation of Mahatma Gandhi. One may of course argue that it is in the spirit of Hindu tradition. But that is precisely the question : does "equal respect for all religions" really sum up traditional Hindu secularism?
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This is a good kick-in-the-musharraf for the clueless Titus and Mohammed worshippers (and to Amartya Sen wannabees) who say "Hindoos worship idols onlee".
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