08-10-2005, 09:05 PM
This forum needs more life, and without contrasting viewpoints that is not possible.
Abhishek, I am not a moderator, but I think you don't have to write each post with some sentences worrying about being banned or censored. I believe you won't be banned or censored for merely having another view on this forum. That worry is unnecessary and is demeaning to the forum.
Regarding your ideas/ideals, I agree with them to a degree. Law & order and protecting citizens is prime responsibility of a government, and any government which doesn't do so, is culpable.
The proverbial cake keeps reappearing too. If some members talk about 'solving' muslim problem through riots, then why should they complain if others and media portray hindutva supporters as fascists?
The constitution has some flaws regarding minority protection. It went in overdrive 'assuming' majority was a danger to the minorities, and that majority didn't need any protection itself. It is clear Indian constitution gives the majority a raw deal based on some imaginary fears regarding its treatment of minorities. So, lets try to change the constituion through democratic means!
Islamism inside India can be tackled as a law & order problem and must be solved using constitutional measures and individual efforts. Constitution may need to be amended to get the proper legal backing, but that is only feasible if a party of coalition gets 2/3 majority. BJP is hamstrung by the NDA, as even if it gets a majority it would not be able to do anything deemed controversial.
Judiciary' recent judgements about IMDT act and advice to the minority commission to act towards successive shortening of the minorities list, instead of continuously adding to it, suggest another hopeful avenue. Where politician have shown no backbone, judiciary has stepped in. Election commision's new directive about politician being disqualified from contesting if police couldn't deliver warrant's to their addresses for 6 months, shows another instance where politicians couldn't clean up their mess, but a constitutional body showed some creativity.
We need to be very very supportive of the constitution and the constitutional authorities. Politicians and babudom have too many priviledges for them to seriously try to change the system. If we harm the basics of the constituition a lot of harm will be done to India in general. Just look at Pakistan as a case in point. In 1947 feudalism was no less prevalent in India than in Pakistan. But Pakistan today is still stuck deep in the feudal morass, while India has tried to rescue itself in many areas. Still, CMs like Lalu think they are present kings with all the powers and no responsibility, but they are not the absolute norm. The constituitional requirements of periodic elections, EC and judiciary keep such aspiring feudals in check.
Islamism outside India is a problem for diplomacy, Indian military and secret services. Let Indian response be as nasty as needed, as India is not responsible for citizens of other countries. But inside India the Indian law must hold primacy.
Abhishek, I am not a moderator, but I think you don't have to write each post with some sentences worrying about being banned or censored. I believe you won't be banned or censored for merely having another view on this forum. That worry is unnecessary and is demeaning to the forum.
Regarding your ideas/ideals, I agree with them to a degree. Law & order and protecting citizens is prime responsibility of a government, and any government which doesn't do so, is culpable.
The proverbial cake keeps reappearing too. If some members talk about 'solving' muslim problem through riots, then why should they complain if others and media portray hindutva supporters as fascists?
The constitution has some flaws regarding minority protection. It went in overdrive 'assuming' majority was a danger to the minorities, and that majority didn't need any protection itself. It is clear Indian constitution gives the majority a raw deal based on some imaginary fears regarding its treatment of minorities. So, lets try to change the constituion through democratic means!
Islamism inside India can be tackled as a law & order problem and must be solved using constitutional measures and individual efforts. Constitution may need to be amended to get the proper legal backing, but that is only feasible if a party of coalition gets 2/3 majority. BJP is hamstrung by the NDA, as even if it gets a majority it would not be able to do anything deemed controversial.
Judiciary' recent judgements about IMDT act and advice to the minority commission to act towards successive shortening of the minorities list, instead of continuously adding to it, suggest another hopeful avenue. Where politician have shown no backbone, judiciary has stepped in. Election commision's new directive about politician being disqualified from contesting if police couldn't deliver warrant's to their addresses for 6 months, shows another instance where politicians couldn't clean up their mess, but a constitutional body showed some creativity.
We need to be very very supportive of the constitution and the constitutional authorities. Politicians and babudom have too many priviledges for them to seriously try to change the system. If we harm the basics of the constituition a lot of harm will be done to India in general. Just look at Pakistan as a case in point. In 1947 feudalism was no less prevalent in India than in Pakistan. But Pakistan today is still stuck deep in the feudal morass, while India has tried to rescue itself in many areas. Still, CMs like Lalu think they are present kings with all the powers and no responsibility, but they are not the absolute norm. The constituitional requirements of periodic elections, EC and judiciary keep such aspiring feudals in check.
Islamism outside India is a problem for diplomacy, Indian military and secret services. Let Indian response be as nasty as needed, as India is not responsible for citizens of other countries. But inside India the Indian law must hold primacy.