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Gujarat Riots - 2
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->He was a religious man and a true hindu(in all sense) and that is why could not see that there could be anything per se wrong with islam<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I have not been able to see what is Hindu about Gandhi so far, all his ideas were of Christian persuation which he cloaked in Hindu garb to fool the masses and what does being religious have anything to do with not being able to see the problem with Islam?, are you saying that true Hindus should not see anything wrong with Islam. Sri Aurobindo a much more religious person and perhaps the greatest Hindu of the last century saw the problem with Islam and here is what he had to say about Islam:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You can live amicably with a religion whose principle is toleration. But how is it possible to live peacefully with a religion whose principle is “I will not tolerate you”? How are you going to have unity with these people? Certainly, Hindu-Muslim unity cannot be arrived at on the basis that the Muslims will go on converting Hindus while the Hindus shall not convert any Mahomedan. You can’t build unity on such a basis. Perhaps the only way of making the Mahomedans harmless is to make them lose their fanatic faith in their religion....

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And here is his opinion of Gandhi:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes. When the Europeans say that he is more Christian than many Christians (some even say that he is “Christ of the modern times”) they are perfectly right. All his preaching is derived from Christianity, and though the garb is Indian the essential spirit is Christian. He may not be Christ, but at any rate he comes in continuation of the same impulsion. He is largely influenced by Tolstoy, the Bible, and has a strong Jain tinge in his teachings; at any rate more than by the Indian scriptures—the Upanishads or the Gita which he interprets in the light of his own ideas.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In gandhi's time the real issue was western imperialism so the leaders of that time had no consciousness regarding the problem that may come in future.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You are wrong again, there were plenty of leaders who fought the British and were at the same time aware of the problem of Islam, some of them were:

1) Veer Savarkar
2) Lala Lajapati Rai
3) Lala Hardayal
4) Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviya
5) Sri Aurobindo
6) Swami Shraddananda

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->So I will say that gandhi's method did not fail, because he never opposed islamists(if he would have maybe we would have seen a different result).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Again if he was not opposing the islamists then why did he say that partition would only be over his dead body?, he opposed the islamists but his methods were total failure before the ruthlessness of Jinnah and Muslims which you are trying to excuse.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is a very unique way of hiding behind normal muslims and fire from there shoulders. Take that support aside and then you will see the islamic structure falling down.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

More nonsense, what is this crap about normal muslims?, a normal Muslim can obviously practice triple talaq, polygamy etc according to the Quran and the Hadiths so what exactly is the difference between the Islamists and the normal muslims I do not know.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There support will swell and they will become powerful like anything and then there will be a war as simple as that. A war which is not going to do any hindu leave aside india any good.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

More coward talk, Hindus are sick of this, always urging Hindus to not do anything on the pretext that it will alienate Muslims when infact Muslims already voluntarily separated themselves from Hindus and are waging war upon us daily. Again here is what Sri Aurobindo had to say about this:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am sorry they are making a fetish of this Hindu-Muslim unity. It is no use ignoring facts; some day the Hindus may have to fight the Muslims and they must prepare for it. Hindu-Muslim unity should not mean the subjection of the Hindus. Every time the mildness of the Hindu has given way. The best solution would be to allow the Hindus to organize themselves and the Hindu-Muslim unity would take care of itself, it would automatically solve the problem. Otherwise, we are lulled into a false sense of satisfaction that we have solved a difficult problem, when in fact we have only shelved it.

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Hindus are no longer afraid of a war and we will fight a war if needed, the Gandhians can all committ suicide and I would rejoice about it.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Our president, Azim Premji, Sania Mirza, shahrukh khan<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Sania Mirza is not a true Muslim because she wears immodest clothes when playing tennis and does not wear the Hijab. Abdul Kalam is a vegeterian and reads the Bhagavad Gita so he is also not a Muslim (infact he would probably get death penalty for reading the Gita in an Islamic country), sharukh khan is married to a Hindu woman whom he did not convert and according to Islam a kaffir must convert before marrying a Muslim so he is also not a true Muslim according to the Quran.

The methods you suggest already failed, time we Hindutvavadis had our chance to solve the problem since Gandhian methods are already a dismal failure.
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