Cricket Thread III

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Bermuda are at 106/7 so far. If they are all bowled out under 158 we could have a new world record to India's credit for the Highest Win Margins in World Cup

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Chasing a mammoth target of 414 runs, Bermuda were 156/9 in 43 overs against India in the World Cup Group B league match at Queen's Oval Park in Trinidad on Monday.



How much RR required to neutralize BD loss?

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India - 413/5 Run Rate: 8.26
Bermuda - 156/10 Run Rate: 3.61

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Assuming that SL wins over BD by one run and India wins over SL by one run,

BD needs to win over Bermuda by a margin of atleast 232 batting first or

Batting second BD needs to win by
5 overs assuming Bermuda scores 80
5 overs assuming Bermuda scores 90
6 overs assuming Bermuda scores 100
6 overs assuming Bermuda scores 110
7 overs assuming Bermuda scores 120
8 overs assuming Bermuda scores 130
8 overs assuming Bermuda scores 140
9 overs assuming Bermuda scores 150
10 overs assuming Bermuda scores 160
10 overs assuming Bermuda scores 170
11 overs assuming Bermuda scores 180
11 overs assuming Bermuda scores 190
12 overs assuming Bermuda scores 200
12 overs assuming Bermuda scores 210
12 overs assuming Bermuda scores 220

So all India needs to do is defeat SL.

What I actually meant was BD need to "win in" 5 overs, not win by.

[narayanan]

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Of course there is the small matter of "India beat SL", but then it's hard to win the World Cup if u can't beat other teams, isn't it?

Allowing Bermuda to score 156 does not bode well at all. I think they should drop Agarkar and take in Pathan, and drop Munaf and take Sreesanth. Kumble seems to be a better bet than Harbhajan.

Also drop Oothappam and take Karthik, and bring him in the middle order after Dhoni. The opening is best left to Sehwag and Dada, with Dravid coming at 1 down. Or, of course, go back to the Proven Combo of Sehwag and Tendulkar, with Dada at 1-down, or Sehwag and Dada with Tendulkar at 1-down. Sorry, Agarkar is just not a match-winner, though he does take tail-end wickets - the fellow STILL starts off with a couple of wides and no balls, giving 5 byes with a wide to start the proceedings. I can't see how this can be tolerated in international cricket. And in any clutch situation, Agarkar's batting average is "economical" - the Bombay Duck.

Zaheer is bowling very well right now. Sreesanth and Pathan have the "Fire in the Belly" and the "Gleam in the Eye" so vital to win against tough teams.

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But hey, that six-hitting by Sachin and Yuvraj and Sehwag and Dhoni and even Dravid, bodes well. Sehwag's blows were getting harder and harder as he returned to form.

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Guroo log, I saw Yuvraj play against Murli long time ago and his technique was horrible. This was in SL ofcourse and i think it was in tests too but still. What is the reading on the rest of the bowling. I am afraid except Vaas and Murali and perhaps Jayasuriya i have no clue about others.

Methinks we should just forget about bowling+fielding and outbat SL. Doable ?

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A N guru said, allowing Bermuda to 156 is going to haunt us. Yuvaraj is suspect against moving ball (spin, or swing or seam) especially early in his innings. Our guyz bat as well as the opposition allow us to bat. There are so many recent matches where the opposition have choked us for runs and we lost the plot.There is hardly any initiative to break the stranglehold. Even if we try our, guyz get out. So really wonder whether what the fuss of being the best batting line up on paper is all about.

Ajith Agarkar is a big enigma. Though highly capable with the ball, bowls a lot of four balls and releases the pressure. We should ideally drop him after 2 matches, pick him again after a couple of matches. He is usually good in his come back matches.


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By Prem Panicker 18:40 | 19/Mar/2007 | 1 Comment(s)


Bangla mocks

Check this out:

A day after its heady triumph, Bangladesh mocked at India's "cash-rich cricketers" and the cricketing authorities for making cricket "a product, not sport."

Behind Dhaka's mood, turning somewhat self-righteous is the fact that India is the only cricketing nation that has never invited Bangladeshi team for a Test series "because we are not considered financially viable."

"India sees cricket as business but Bangladesh knows and plays cricket as a sport. The only country that has not invited Bangladesh to play a Test series is India, just because Bangladesh is not financially viable as a team. Now, India has to understand that cricket is a game and not a commercial apple!" wrote Tareq Mahmood in Prathom Alo newspaper.

Right on, mate, India has to understand that. India also has to understand that memory is short: Bangladesh would not have been playing Tests at all, at least not at this point in time, but for India -- specifically, Jagmohan Dalmiya -- gift-wrapping Test status and handing it over on a platter, for reasons we won't go into here.

Anyway. Nice, you've arrived, you've found your cricket feet and now, your voice. Use it in good health, and all the best.

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deja vu - 1971

My only wish is for Bermuda to thrash Bangaldesh

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IMO Yuvraj's weakness against big turners was more pronounced - ofcourse this is a bit outdated info - he might have certainly improved - his tech against seaming balls is better. In interview below Wright says Malinga was a handful. Has anybody watched him ? Vaas ofcourse can be handful but my guess is that Murali would be the key - we cant let him settle into his chucking rhythm.

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/talk/conte...dia/286259.html

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He has improved against spin since his early days but a good captain would bring on a spinner as soon as he arrives at the crease.


Rajesh_g (ji) check out http://youtube.com/results?search_query=sl...a&search=Search


or search for Malinga in You tube. Very short guy, extremely quick. Can be quite an handful. Usually bowls in the 140ks and can ramp up to 154 or 155k with a slinging action. . Can reverse swing the ball and can bowl yorkers at will. Check out the vettori dismissal in one of the you tube videos.

Good thing is that he can be erratic and bowls loose balls

Sri Lanka has a good mix of bowlers (Fast - Malinga and Fernando, Swing/seam - Vaas
and Maharoof, spin - murali and jaya). Maharoof is good with the bat. More than anything their fielding is brilliant. Nicely balanced team and only suspect against genuine pace bowling. Our best chance is to bowl first at them using hte morning moisture, get quick wickets and bowl them to below 200.

[narayanan]

Malinga clicked against Bermuda, which is why they got shot out for 78. Sri Lanka has been beaten before. Last tour in India (when Dada started his ComeBack) they were tough, but lost, and Jayasurya was not in form (or not around). Now JS is back in form. A Sehwag blizkrieg will be needed to win there, I think.

I have not understood why India persists with Agarkar. They guy is amazingly fast in raw speed.. but too erratic for a world-class player.

As for BD, there is a good chance that Bermuda will beat them and prick their balloons.

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Man what is that - baseball ?

SLs do have a knack for coming up with real borderline cases. How the heck does he generate that bounce ? Mark my words this man is going to hurt somebody before he retires. In the meantime methinks its best to think of this guy as a left-hand bowler and play him like one would play Akram.. Just a guess only.. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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<b>Woolmer death draws out foul play rumours</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->“The theory going around in West Indies police circles is that Woolmer might have been killed by those who wanted to silence him on the issue of match-fixing,” he claimed.

<b>A former PCB official who requested anonymity said Woolmer’s book, Discovering Cricket, which he was writing, could have exposed the cricketer-bookie nexus in Pakistan, India, and South Africa</b>.

The official claimed that Woolmer met Delhi police officers during Pakistan’s 2005 tour of India to gather material for the book. Nawaz said Woolmer had finished more than 50 per cent of the book
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Last month he had pretty poor season in India - in 2 matches I think his bowling average was somewhere between 6 to 7 runs/over. Let's hope the trend continues.

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He's got much better. If India quest for WC amounts to anything, expect a significant contribution from Yuvraj (his health permitting, he's pretty injury prone).

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Woolmer was born in India (1948) - not sure as to how many years he spent in India. And I think he was close to Hansie Cronje which might have given him some insight into the cricketeer-bookie nexus.

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http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/...ory/286286.html

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[Hauma Hamiddha]

May be i don't know much of modern bowling, but to me Malinga looks like a chucker. His general action is suspect, but some of the balls are certainly chucks.

An Murali definitely is a chuckmeister

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I am wondering if his bowling can be classified as underarm ? It definitely is below shoulder height - if you look at his shoulder position atleast.

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So, is there any substance to Sarfraz Nawaz's theory? Heart attacks should be rather easy to determine. Then why is it inconclusive? What raises my suspicions is that PCB, the Pak Manager and all Pakistanis are saying he died of heart attack. How can they know that if post-mortem is not definite? So if they can't be sure, why keep saying heart attack?

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Woolmer's post-mortem inconclusive

Dileep Premachandran in Jamaica

March 20, 2007

<b>Bob Woolmer's autopsy performed on Tuesday morning, almost 48 hours after his passing away, had inconclusive results, and the pathologist has asked for further tests before the cause of death can be pinpointed.</b>

The autopsy, performed by Dr Ere Sheshiah, started at 9:35am, and was concluded by noon. Gill Woolmer, Bob's wife, was officially informed of the findings at 12:35pm, and the Jamaican police then met team officials to inform them of the autopsy findings.
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With the pathologist unable to ascertain the cause of death, samples taken were sent for toxicology and histology tests. The results are awaited.</b>

The Pakistan team is scheduled to leave Jamaica on Saturday and the Jamaican police are hoping that Woolmer's body can be flown out with them. Karl Angell, director of communication for the Jamaican Constabulary, asserted that the tests were being fast-tracked so that the matter could be cleared up at the earliest.

A press conference was organised by the Pakistan team management and the Jamaican police at 3:30 on Tuesday afternoon. Reading from a prepared statement, Pervez Mir, the team's media manager, spoke of how Murray Stevenson, the trainer, had gone to officially identify the body at the Kingston Public Hospital mortuary.

When asked what sort of timeframe we were looking at, Mark Shields, the deputy commissioner of police, said: "It depends on the results. As of now, we don't know the cause of death."

Shields was then asked if the inconclusive findings suggested that anything was amiss. "Not necessarily," he said. "Any sudden death is treated as suspicious till we can say otherwise. At this moment, we're not ruling out anything."

According to Colin Pinnock, the deputy superintendent who is the chief investigating officer, such occurrences were not uncommon. "It happens," he said. "The pathologist just wants to be absolutely sure. Samples have been sent to the forensic lab and the national lab."

The team's departure could conceivably be affected if the tests take time, and Mir and Talat Ali, the manager, will stay back if that's the case. "The team is disturbed," said Mir. "But we must move on."

Shields assured everyone that the investigation would be concluded as soon as possible, but quickly added: "We won't cut any corners either." For the moment, Woolmer's room at the Jamaica Pegasus Hotel remains sealed, with the police not having handed it back to the hotel management.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Marks found on coach's neck
Woolmer may have been murdered
Cricinfo staff
March 21, 2007
Mystery surrounds the death of Bob Woolmer © Getty Images

Reports are emerging that Bob Woolmer may have been murdered after marks were discovered on the Pakistan coach's neck. Woolmer was found unconscious in his hotel room on Sunday and died shortly after in a Jamaica hospital.

Woolmer's family said after speaking to doctors they expected his death was caused by a stress-related heart attack. An autopsy completed on Tuesday was inconclusive, but investigators were waiting for the results of toxicology tests to see if they helped determine the cause. The Pakistan manager is currently holding a press conference in Jamaica.

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[Guest]

Srini saar I guess you are as much a kirket fan as i am..

our posts crossed.

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By the way, was that fire related too ?

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/conte...84329.html