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Factor 'Anna' on Politics!
#1
Indian Poltics is waiting for the birth of new child on horizon. Can Anna be 1?

The LensOnNews pre-poll survey said the Congress was expected to finish third, with the Haryana Janhit Congress-Bharatiya Janata Party candidate Kuldeep Bishnoi tipped to win comfortably.



Indian National Lok Dal's (INLD) Ajay Chautala would be "a distant runner-up", the survey said. The Congress candidate is Jai Prakash.



The survey was carried out Oct 8 and 9 across six of the nine assembly segments of Hisar constituency among a representative 593 voters. The poll findings carry a margin of error of five percent. http://www.dailypioneer.com/pioneer-news...urvey.html



Team Anna has urged Hisar voters to hand a "historic defeat" to the Congress for not supporting the Jan Lokpal Bill proposed by Anna Hazare.
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#2
When is the election.



I think Anna's attachment with Prashant Bhushan will hit any credibility of Anna.

One has to dig, how deep is Prashant Bhushan involvement with outsiders? I always suspected/believed Anna's remote is somewhere else.
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#3
The slapping incident highlighted the anti-national credentials of Prashant Bushan. So it will rub of on his associates.



Chalo something good has coem out of this slap!



Agnivesh, Bedi disagree with Bhushan on J&K



J&K accession full and final says Kiran Bedi.



Either they really mean it or they don't want to be caught in the anti-national maelstorm.



Maybe that sene types should slap a few more undeserving people.
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#4
Some may disagree but I condemn the manhandling of Prashant Bhushan in his own chamber in the highest court of the country. Goes to prove (i) Supreme court lawyers are in-sufficiently protected in their work premises. (ii) There is a price to be paid for freedom of speech in India - As anti-national as his remark may have been, he certainly did not deserve this in a civil and democratic society.
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#5
[quote name='Capt Manoj Singh' date='14 October 2011 - 03:04 AM' timestamp='1318541180' post='113323']

Some may disagree but I condemn the manhandling of Prashant Bhushan in his own chamber in the highest court of the country. Goes to prove (i) Supreme court lawyers are in-sufficiently protected in their work premises. (ii) There is a price to be paid for freedom of speech in India - As anti-national as his remark may have been, he certainly did not deserve this in a civil and democratic society.

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Dear Manoj Singhji,



Did you condemn the attack on Dr.Subramanian Swamy and the filing of FIRs against him for his article "How to wipe out Islamic Terror"? Can your freedom of speech include the blatant aiding of the enemy? Do you agree with Prasant Bhushan that Jawaharlal Nehru's abject surrender to Islamic Pakistan by agreeing to the plebiscite is not treasonous? As a Captain don't you agree that Kashmir is an integral part of India? And there are more questions...
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#6
[quote name='Savithri' date='14 October 2011 - 12:35 PM' timestamp='1318591654' post='113330']

Dear Manoj Singhji,



Did you condemn the attack on Dr.Subramanian Swamy and the filing of FIRs against him for his article "How to wipe out Islamic Terror"? Can your freedom of speech include the blatant aiding of the enemy? Do you agree with Prasant Bhushan that Jawaharlal Nehru's abject surrender to Islamic Pakistan by agreeing to the plebiscite is not treasonous? As a Captain don't you agree that Kashmir is an integral part of India? And there are more questions...

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While I do not subscribe to views expressed by Prashant Bhushan in this instance, I feel freedom of speech is a birthright of every citizen and that includes Subhramanyam Swamy. The manhandling incident goes to prove that a few hoodlums can make a mockery of the safety of workers in the highest court of justice in India. To answer your question I do firmly believe that Kashmir is an integral part of India and India should not buckle to any pressure from outside forces or forces within.
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#7
[quote name='Capt Manoj Singh' date='14 October 2011 - 09:29 PM' timestamp='1318607480' post='113338']

While I do not subscribe to views expressed by Prashant Bhushan in this instance, I feel freedom of speech is a birthright of every citizen and that includes Subhramanyam Swamy. The manhandling incident goes to prove that a few hoodlums can make a mockery of the safety of workers in the highest court of justice in India. To answer your question I do firmly believe that Kashmir is an integral part of India and India should not buckle to any pressure from outside forces or forces within.

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Thanks! Bharat Matha ki Jai!
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#8
In recent times, Anna, Baba Ramdev and Subramaniam Swamy have come to the fore on national politics. However Anna seems to be developing cold feet as can be made out from

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news...357267.cms

Whereas Swamy is increasing his fold;

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india...355742.cms

Of course, Baba is continuing undaunted by organizing Padyatras.

btw; Hisar election was over on Oct 13.
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#9
[url="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/anna-hazare-disowns-prashant-bhushans-jk-remarks/articleshow/10360458.cms"][size="4"]Anna Hazare disowns Prashant Bhushan's J&K remarks[/size][/url]
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#10
[size="3"][url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Congress-beaten-0-4-in-bypolls-its-candidate-loses-deposit-in-Hisar/articleshow/10395052.cms"]Congress beaten 0-4 in bypolls, its candidate loses deposit in Hisar[/url] : TOI, Oct 18, 2011



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Quote:Congress drew a blank in the four by-elections the results of which were announced on Monday, deepening the perception that the lethal combination of corruption and inflation may have put it on the backfoot.



The defeat in Hisar where Team Anna sided with Congress's opponents and the assembly by-elections in Bihar and Andhra Pradesh was along the predicted lines.
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BJP, flush with its successes, was already stoking the perception, while Team Hazare leapt upon the Hissar result to warn Congress about the cost of not passing the Jan Lokpal Bill in the Winter Session.



In what was billed as a tee-off between Team Anna and Congress in Hisar, the ruling party came third behind Indian National Lok Dal's Ajay Chautala and the BJP-Haryana Janhit Congress nominee Kuldeep Bishnoi who won the seat. The result is not unexpected, but the two lakh plus margin of defeat constitutes a severe drubbing, and exposes the shrinking support for it since the last LS polls.



Jury was still out on the role played by Anna factor. The civil society group claimed its intervention was crucial, However, Bishnoi brushed aside the claim, emphasizing the "legacy" of his father Bhajan Lal , former chief minister whose death caused the by-election, and the alliance with the BJP.The synergy between BJP and HJC brought about a strong consolidation of non-Jat voters like Brahmins, Banias, Punjabis and dalits. But what should worry Congress more is Jat votes moving, as in the 2009 assembly poll, moving away and towards INLD.

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#11
[url="http://blog.sureshchiplunkar.com/2011/10/anti-national-ngos-in-india-and-afspa.html"]देशद्रोही NGOs गैंग "जोंक और पिस्सू" की तरह हैं… (सन्दर्भ - AFSPA विरोध यात्रा)[/url]



Quote:[color="#FF0000"]एक बूढ़े को "टिशु पेपर" की तरह उपयोग करके उसे रालेगण सिद्धि में मौन व्रत पर भेज दिया, लेकिन इस "टीम (अण्णा)" का मुँह बन्द होने का नाम नहीं ले रहा।[/color] कभी कश्मीर पर तो कभी AFSPA के विरोध में तो कभी नरेन्द्र मोदी के विरोध में षडयंत्र रचते हुए, लगातार फ़टा हुआ है। यह बात समझ से परे है कि ये लोग सिर्फ़ जनलोकपाल, जल-संवर्धन, भूमि संवर्धन, एड्स इत्यादि मामलों तक सीमित क्यों नहीं रहते? "समाजसेवा"(?) के नाम पर NGOs चलाने वाले संदीप पाण्डे, मेधा पाटकर एवं प्रशांत भूषण जैसे NGOवादी, आए दिन राजनैतिक मामलों के फ़टे में टाँग क्यों अड़ाते हैं?..





...मजे की बात यह है कि इसी सिविल सोसायटी टीम की एक प्रमुख सदस्या किरण बेदी ने AFSPA कानून हटाने का विरोध किया है क्योंकि वह एक पुलिस अफ़सर रह चुकी हैं और जानती हैं कि सीमावर्ती राज्यों में राष्ट्रविरोधियों द्वारा "क्या-क्या" गुल खिलाए जा रहे हैं, और सुरक्षा बलों को कैसी विपरीत परिस्थितियों में वहाँ काम करना पड़ता है, लेकिन अरुंधती, संदीप पाण्डे और गिलानी जैसे लोगों को इससे कोई मतलब नहीं है… उनकी NGO दुकान चलती रहे बस…!!!



...बात निकली ही है तो पाठकों की सूचना हेतु बता दूँ, कि अफ़ज़ल गुरु को माफ़ी देने और "जस्टिस फ़ॉर अफ़ज़ल गूरू" (http://justiceforafzalguru.org/) नाम के ज्ञापन पर हस्ताक्षर करने वालों में संदीप पाण्डे महोदय, अरुंधती रॉय, गौतम नवलखा, राम पुनियानी, हर्ष मन्दर इत्यादि सक्रिय रूप से शामिल थे…।
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#12
[size="4"]Two top Team Anna members quit[/size]



NEW DELHI: Two prominent members of Team Anna, Magsaysay award winner Rajendra Singh and Gandhian activist P.B. Rajagopal, Tuesday resigned from the movement, citing Arvind Kejriwal's allegedly autocratic decisions and the political activities of the group.



"I dissociate from the team. The team is turning political. There were statements indicating that, including on Hisar," Rajendra Singh told a TV channel. He added that Kejriwal was "taking autocratic decisions".



"I have sent in the letter (to Anna Hazare) expressing my difficulty in continuing in the team. They have told me not to take any decision like this. I am in the midst of an all-India yatra," Rajagopal told reporters in Kerala.



Team Anna member Kiran Bedi told reporters here that the two who had left "were volunteers who come and go".



Earlier, Swami Agnivesh and former Supreme Court judge N. Santhosh Hegde had distanced themselves from the anti-corruption movement led by Hazare.
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#13
[quote name='Savithri' date='18 October 2011 - 04:18 PM' timestamp='1318950647' post='113378']

[size="4"]Two top Team Anna members quit[/size]



NEW DELHI: Two prominent members of Team Anna, Magsaysay award winner Rajendra Singh and Gandhian activist P.B. Rajagopal, Tuesday resigned from the movement, citing Arvind Kejriwal's allegedly autocratic decisions and the political activities of the group.



"I dissociate from the team. The team is turning political. There were statements indicating that, including on Hisar," Rajendra Singh told a TV channel. He added that Kejriwal was "taking autocratic decisions".



"I have sent in the letter (to Anna Hazare) expressing my difficulty in continuing in the team. They have told me not to take any decision like this. I am in the midst of an all-India yatra," Rajagopal told reporters in Kerala.



Team Anna member Kiran Bedi told reporters here that the two who had left "were volunteers who come and go".



Earlier, Swami Agnivesh and former Supreme Court judge N. Santhosh Hegde had distanced themselves from the anti-corruption movement led by Hazare.

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I do not know if I am alone in thinking this together with other recent events is an attempt by the UPA to disintegrate the Anna movement that gained unprecedented support suddenly.
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#14
[quote name='Capt Manoj Singh' date='19 October 2011 - 10:00 PM' timestamp='1319041329' post='113394']

I do not know if I am alone in thinking this together with other recent events is an attempt by the UPA to disintegrate the Anna movement that gained unprecedented support suddenly.

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Are the people quitting Anna Team mere machines to be manipulated by the Congress? If not, they must be corrupt and vulnerable! Secondly, you cannot ignore that Anna movement was largely 'used' by so many different vested interests. The Congress itself felt secure in placating him and promoting his method. Now they are receding one by one, I suppose. By this argument I would say that Anna who tried to eclipse others who were in the forefront against corruption would inevitably end up yielding to those very people to carry the fight against corruption. In the interim Anna's movement has also played well in retarding and sidelining the real fight against corruption.
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#15
[quote name='Savithri' date='19 October 2011 - 06:31 PM' timestamp='1319044984' post='113395']

Are the people quitting Anna Team mere machines to be manipulated by the Congress? If not, they must be corrupt and vulnerable! Secondly, you cannot ignore that Anna movement was largely 'used' by so many different vested interests. The Congress itself felt secure in placating him and promoting his method. Now they are receding one by one, I suppose. By this argument I would say that Anna who tried to eclipse others who were in the forefront against corruption would inevitably end up yielding to those very people to carry the fight against corruption. In the interim Anna's movement has also played well in retarding and sidelining the real fight against corruption.

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You apparently fail to acknowledge the fear factor. The Government in power has the ability to do almost anything. While they may or may not use the government machinery to instil fear in others there are several other ways. Prashant Bhushan beaten up, Anna on maun vratha, two Anna supporters withdrawing and now Kiran Bedi under attack. How can you overlook all that??
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#16
[quote name='Capt Manoj Singh' date='20 October 2011 - 11:40 PM' timestamp='1319133758' post='113415']

You apparently fail to acknowledge the fear factor. The Government in power has the ability to do almost anything. While they may or may not use the government machinery to instil fear in others there are several other ways. Prashant Bhushan beaten up, Anna on maun vratha, two Anna supporters withdrawing and now Kiran Bedi under attack. How can you overlook all that??

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I don't know if Congressmen beat up Prashant Bhushan as it is quite unlikely. After all he was only echoing the betrayer Nehru. Anna is on mauna vrat because the SC is after him on some misuse of money grant or some such thing. That could be a govt. set up. So also the others withdrawing and Kiran Bedi being hounded because Kiran was making fun of the govt. ministers and MPs and she had a hand in exposing the Congress plants one of whom is Abhnivesh. I don't see fear factor in any of these. I see politics at play in all these. And to cap it all MMSingh has already pronounced that Anna movement had lived its full life. He was meaning rest for it in peace if not the last nail on the coffer!



Anna Hazare's fight for Lokpal bill is at stalemate and he can do nothing about it. Advani's yathra has no focus because no one can say for sure if it is to agitate for the release of his comrades now languishing in jail on his sting operation to expose cash for vote scheme, or if it is against black money for he had already apologised to Sonia on his party going after her or if it is against corruption which is now being blunted by the arrest of Yeddy and an impending prosecution of Karnataka Home Minister or if it to placate himself as the future PM of the country for which there is a lukewarm support within his own party.



Which comes down to my contention that the fight against corruption and black money would be carried on once again by Dr.Swamy and Baba Ramdev. Don't you agree?
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#17
[quote name='Savithri' date='20 October 2011 - 10:25 PM' timestamp='1319145438' post='113417']

I don't know if Congressmen beat up Prashant Bhushan as it is quite unlikely. After all he was only echoing the betrayer Nehru. Anna is on mauna vrat because the SC is after him on some misuse of money grant or some such thing. That could be a govt. set up. So also the others withdrawing and Kiran Bedi being hounded because Kiran was making fun of the govt. ministers and MPs and she had a hand in exposing the Congress plants one of whom is Abhnivesh. I don't see fear factor in any of these. I see politics at play in all these. And to cap it all MMSingh has already pronounced that Anna movement had lived its full life. He was meaning rest for it in peace if not the last nail on the coffer!



Anna Hazare's fight for Lokpal bill is at stalemate and he can do nothing about it. Advani's yathra has no focus because no one can say for sure if it is to agitate for the release of his comrades now languishing in jail on his sting operation to expose cash for vote scheme, or if it is against black money for he had already apologised to Sonia on his party going after her or if it is against corruption which is now being blunted by the arrest of Yeddy and an impending prosecution of Karnataka Home Minister or if it to placate himself as the future PM of the country for which there is a lukewarm support within his own party.



Which comes down to my contention that the fight against corruption and black money would be carried on once again by Dr.Swamy and Baba Ramdev. Don't you agree?

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The fight against corruption isn't an easy one the malice is do deep routed within the veins of the political system. In fact, I would not be wrong to say this is the primary reason most take to politics. There are also others who long for power and fame. The legal system will need to be stricter and the fight without doubt needs to be unified and further intensified.
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#18
[quote name='Capt Manoj Singh' date='25 October 2011 - 01:52 PM' timestamp='1319530483' post='113478']

The fight against corruption isn't an easy one the malice is do deep routed within the veins of the political system. In fact, I would not be wrong to say this is the primary reason most take to politics. There are also others who long for power and fame. The legal system will need to be stricter and the fight without doubt needs to be unified and further intensified.

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Corruption can be discouraged only when exemplary punishment is meted out to those who commit it. That is where the role of Dr.Swamy comes into play. There are already laws in this country providing for punishments but the ruling party has been flouting those laws with impunity. In fact using their power they pick the opposition legislators to inflict punishment on them, not to discourage corruption but to score political victory. Catching of these unholy politicians and punishing them is a very important but very risky, daring and persevering task because those in power would use it (as you have rightly pointed out)and use it mercilessly and vehemently against the people who oppose them. You can imagine how dangerous for anyone to fill the shoes of Dr.Swamy who is aiming at people like P.Chidambaram and Sonia Gandhi.



You can write any number of laws but if it is not possible to enforce it then it is not worth even the paper written on it. The CBI has been acting subservient to Sonia, the CJI was acting subservient and even the President of India is acting subservient to this foreigner. Do you have high hopes for the Lokpal to do any better? That is where Baba Ramdev comes into picture to gather people in a manner much different from Anna Hazare. BJP is not in the arena because it has drawbacks that militates against the campaign much the same way it is happening with Anna's team.



You know how keenly the Congress party is going after the BJP in Karnataka and Gujarat. Here is an example of the Govt. going after the opposition in UP:



[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Jairam-Ramesh-cites-multi-crore-MNREGA-scam-in-UP-warns-of-CBI-inquiry/articleshow/10487415.cms"][size="3"]Jairam Ramesh cites multi-crore MNREGA scam in UP, warns of CBI inquiry[/size][/url]
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#19
In India, today I was watching local News programme, they had ManMohan in center and Anna, RamDev, Advani etc surrounding him with Bomb as a cap/topi. And they labeled it as these Bombs are creating trouble and headache for Center.

I was shocked seeing these type of caricature of opposition. Media is still supporting corrupt Congress Party.

They don't care about corruption only their own interest, same is with Sectary level Babus in India. Very disappointing experience chatting with low life.
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#20
[quote name='Mudy' date='26 October 2011 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1319624216' post='113490']

In India, today I was watching local News programme, they had ManMohan in center and Anna, RamDev, Advani etc surrounding him with Bomb as a cap/topi. And they labeled it as these Bombs are creating trouble and headache for Center.

I was shocked seeing these type of caricature of opposition. Media is still supporting corrupt Congress Party.

They don't care about corruption only their own interest, same is with Sectary level Babus in India. Very disappointing experience chatting with low life.

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There is no free media in India in the mainstream. They are the kept press of Antonia Maino. People in general do know of this. These mainstream media bombard only the middle class who feel that the govt. policies benefit them and have turned blind eye to the high-handedness of the Congress. Many of them even supported them vociferously. With corruption and prices becoming unbearable and the job market getting volatile they are getting frustrated with the govt. A free and fair election will bring about the end of this govt. but free and fair election is a pipe dream in India.
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