<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Oct 28 2007, 11:10 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 28 2007, 11:10 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->What was British role in S.G.P.C formation and control of Gurdwara? Any idea when British stopped remote controlling SGPC or did it ever stopped? This happened after British missionaries failed to convert Sikhs and Hindus in Punjab.
Arur Singh, Raja Sir Daljit Singh and Gajjan Singh of Narangwal were British representative who even allowed demolishing wall of Gurdwara Rakab Ganj during transfer of the capital from Calcutta to Delhi in 1911.
<b>My objective is go beyond what is current internet fora is saying.
I am trying to connect dots. What happened before that? Who instigated whole process, is it still under British control?</b>
British so-called started reform, whenever British started so-called reform, actually it was to destroy that religion or group.
[right][snapback]74628[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
VS Naipaul, in "Magic Seeds" tries to diagnose this British role, and what he says is really compelling. (although he then turns the plot of the novel to show the hollowness of andhra-ite naxal movement)
1860s onwards, that is once India had formally become a jewel in the crown of the Queen, British already had a well-thought master plan of how they will rule the vast land called 'Hindoostan' populated by the tens of millions of humans, using mere 5 to 10 thousand Englistani men - making it cost-effective. That is by the policy of 'divide and rule'. Make each group hate each other. Naipaul says the plot they knit was so successful and so far reaching that the true effects of their plot - we are now seeing and shall see in the times to come.
Once you connect the dots you are talking about, you would reach at the same picture. Seeds of all the separation go back to the racial theory ...AIT, Shaka/Kushana/Huna myths, obliteration of indigenous Historic narrative etc.. "Dravid" and "Sikh" (and "Dalit") separation were fanned using the two different sides of the same canard - that Sikhs a "martial race" and Dravids (and "Dalits") a "servile race", both wronged by the vile Brahmans.
But the first challenge was that the Gurudwara-s were managed by very pro-Hindu traditional mahants, and Sikhs-Hindus were but one. And as long as these elemens controled Gurudwara-s, Sikhs would continue to be part of the same synthesis that is Hindutva. So target them, and vilify them just like brahmanas.
Is it still under british control?
Hmm.... British set in motion a HUGE and MASSIVE cycle of change. Due to the momentum of inertia, it took time to settle in. But now, as the motion is set, the same inertia makes the motion continue, even though it might not be in British control any more.
Arur Singh, Raja Sir Daljit Singh and Gajjan Singh of Narangwal were British representative who even allowed demolishing wall of Gurdwara Rakab Ganj during transfer of the capital from Calcutta to Delhi in 1911.
<b>My objective is go beyond what is current internet fora is saying.
I am trying to connect dots. What happened before that? Who instigated whole process, is it still under British control?</b>
British so-called started reform, whenever British started so-called reform, actually it was to destroy that religion or group.
[right][snapback]74628[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
VS Naipaul, in "Magic Seeds" tries to diagnose this British role, and what he says is really compelling. (although he then turns the plot of the novel to show the hollowness of andhra-ite naxal movement)
1860s onwards, that is once India had formally become a jewel in the crown of the Queen, British already had a well-thought master plan of how they will rule the vast land called 'Hindoostan' populated by the tens of millions of humans, using mere 5 to 10 thousand Englistani men - making it cost-effective. That is by the policy of 'divide and rule'. Make each group hate each other. Naipaul says the plot they knit was so successful and so far reaching that the true effects of their plot - we are now seeing and shall see in the times to come.
Once you connect the dots you are talking about, you would reach at the same picture. Seeds of all the separation go back to the racial theory ...AIT, Shaka/Kushana/Huna myths, obliteration of indigenous Historic narrative etc.. "Dravid" and "Sikh" (and "Dalit") separation were fanned using the two different sides of the same canard - that Sikhs a "martial race" and Dravids (and "Dalits") a "servile race", both wronged by the vile Brahmans.
But the first challenge was that the Gurudwara-s were managed by very pro-Hindu traditional mahants, and Sikhs-Hindus were but one. And as long as these elemens controled Gurudwara-s, Sikhs would continue to be part of the same synthesis that is Hindutva. So target them, and vilify them just like brahmanas.
Is it still under british control?
Hmm.... British set in motion a HUGE and MASSIVE cycle of change. Due to the momentum of inertia, it took time to settle in. But now, as the motion is set, the same inertia makes the motion continue, even though it might not be in British control any more.