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Pseudo nationalism? Care to describe what you actually mean by that? Theres nothing pseudo or false...i consider myself a true, full nationalist :
Quit the crap about nationalist Idiocy...the only idiot around here seems to be you...you've said nothing and haven't offered a shred of decent 'intelligent' argument yourself but have rambled on about nationalism and how we be thankful
to some Argentinians yadda yadda BS :

The site is indeed large and credit to them they have spent a great deal of time on it...but our history is plagued by inconsistencies that been twisted by others and fed back to the Indian public. There are a number of inconsistancies that are in the site that have been shown by others and will no doubt keep cropping up but for now i dealt with just the one i highlighted :

Q Big Grinoes Sanskrit come from India? A : NO


The author doesn't even bother to know or acknowledge (Nor have you bothered to check up) that its still a hotly debated and complicated topic as to where the origins Sankrit come from. We've learnt the hard way of Aryan invasion theories and others cooked up by foreigners with no archaeological basis to create divisions and promote religious conversions among Hindus.
The above theory lends credence to origins in Anatolia before migrations to India by vedic Aryans...that composed the Rig Veda while defeating and invading the land of lower uncultured Dravidians.

There are various other theories under research that Sanskrit may have had its Origins in the Indus valley Civilisation around 6000 BC being the proto type for many languages around the region and later migrated from here to Europe. There are many websites to learn from and our object it to get as close to Dharma as we possibly can...

So Goodbye Ignorant Alfred, before criticising others, for gods sake do a basic google check to realise what people are actually talking about. Your 'intelligent' arguments would best be saved shouting to your backyard bush :

One site that talks about Proto Indo European languages, describes Indus valley and Anatolia etc but also cares to note that this is in no way final and that other theories might be as valid :

The origin and evolution of Sanskrit :
<!--QuoteBegin-Alfred+Dec 8 2003, 12:26 AM-->QUOTE(Alfred @ Dec 8 2003, 12:26 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> ........You have neither self-control nor wisdom........ <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mr. Alfred, Do you see the hypocracy in your saying Good Bye.......and yet coming back, again & again?

(<b>Please answer the question, without insults.</b> Lemme see some of your self-control n' wisdom type virtues!)
From: Sanskrit Library Director [mailto:SanskritLibrary@B...]
Sent: Fri 12/5/2003 4:02 PM
To: Recipient List Suppressed
Subject: Nominal Declension software

Dear Sanskrit scholars and colleagues:

The Sanskrit Library would like to announce the addition of
nominal declension software to its website sanskritlibrary.org. The
software, located on the Reading Room page under Tools, generates and
displays the paradigm of any nominal stem entered by the user. Help
is provided for data entry and for Devanagari and Roman font
selection for suitable display.
With the addition of nominal declension generation software,
the Sanskrit Library takes another step towards providing tools for
complete morphological generation and analysis of Sanskrit. It
complements a digitized reference edition of Whitney's Roots and a
Reader for the Astadhyayi, Ramopakhyana, and Pancatantra.
The Sanskrit Library site is open for free public use upon
Peter M. Scharf, Director
Malcolm D. Hyman, Linguist

Peter M. Scharf, Director
Sanskrit Library
Brown University
i have heard this thing about sanskrit that it is the most suitable language for computers

is it true or is it another of those feel-good rumors ?
it is true, CDC is using Sanskrit.
<!--QuoteBegin-agasthiyan+Dec 10 2003, 09:38 AM-->QUOTE(agasthiyan @ Dec 10 2003, 09:38 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> i have heard this thing about sanskrit that it is the most suitable language for computers

is it true or is it another of those feel-good rumors ? <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If my understanding is correct, Panini's ashtadyayi (eight chapters) is the most consise yet comprehensive definition of any grammar. there are 4000 cryptic sutras (formulae.) Also, any samskrit term can never be mispronounced.. If it's written a certain way, it HAS to be read the same way no matter who reads it. Unlike the "o" in 'go', 'so', and 'to'.

When applied to computers, if one can compile an instruction set as consise as that of Panini's, it would make instruction sets unambiguous.. There may be other reasons.. but this is the one I know.

are there any other reasons?

if those are valid reasons, is there anybody working on it?

Mudy, what is CDC ?
<!--QuoteBegin-agasthiyan+Dec 12 2003, 03:27 AM-->QUOTE(agasthiyan @ Dec 12 2003, 03:27 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> Mudy, what is CDC ? <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Center for Disease Control in Atlanta, GA?
C-DAC- Insititute in Pune, India. They are working on Hindi, Sanskrit Dictionary, Translation software, operating system etc.

Added later: Yes, rhytha, You are right. Why "A" was out of my memory. :friusty
thats i c-dac pune mudy

C-DAC "Centre for Development of Advanced Computing"

Here, in addition to Panini's grammar definitions, I would like to add another major accomplishment by our Ancestors.. The Ability to concieve and keep up with a technique of documentation called Sutras. Sutras are compilation of major works where very few words are used. (If it's not read/interpreted without proper background ndeded for the subject, Sutras may seem confusing.) Some of the Famous sutras are

(*) Yoga Sutra - Pathanjali.
(*) Brahma Sutra - Bhadharayana.
(*) Bhakthi Sutra - Naradha.
(*) Kama Sutra - Vatsyayana.
(*) Neethi Sutras - Chanakya.

Here is the definition of a Sutra.

<i>alpaaksharam asandigdham saaravath vishvatho mukham,
asathobham anavadhyam cha sutram sutravidho viduh.</i>

Those who know the definition of a sutra define it as the following qualities..

<b>Alpa aksharam</b> = With bare minimum (use of) alphabets.
<b>Asannigdham</b> = Free from doubts and ambiguities; clear and accurate.
<b>Saravad</b> = like the essence; devoid of unnecessary pulp.
<b>Viswatho mukham</b> = Univerasal; applicable anywhere and everywhere. [Not limited by time, space, cultures etc.]
<b>Asathobham</b> = Shining, Illuminating, highlighting the point at hand, never diminishing in radiance/value.
<b>Anavadyam</b> = Without any bugs, errors, mistakes or shortcomings; perfect.
A good source: http://sanskrit.gde.to/
sanskrit.gde.to and sanskrit.bhaarat.com are excellent resources.. I had been visiting the former almost on a daily basis for perhaps the past 3-4 years.

here are some sites I vist regularly - or more than once.. I HIGHLY recommend the IIT Kanpur site..

SAMSKRIT - In Devanagari:
From IIT Kanpur: (All in sanskrit - I am not sure about mac fonts.)
COMPLETE works of Sri Adi Shankaracharya http://www.sankara.iitk.ac.in/
Bhagavat Geetha Super Site: http://www.gitasupersite.iitk.ac.in/
Brahmasutra Super Site : http://www.brahmasutra.iitk.ac.in/
Yoga Sutra Super Site : http://www.yogasutra.iitk.ac.in/

Sanskrit document list : http://sanskrit.gde.to/
Samskrit discussion Forum : http://sanskrit.bhaarat.com/
Samskritha Barathi : http://www.samskrita-bharati.org/

Upanishad/Brahmasutra etc: (in english)
THE MANDUKYA UPANISHAD : http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/mand_0.html
More books on : http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/

Yoga Asanas : http://sivasakti.com/articles/intro-asanas.html
Yoga Journal: http://www.yogajournal.com/poses/index.cfm?ctsrc=hg7
Hatha yoga pradipika - Swami Svatmarama: http://lib.ru/URIKOVA/SANTEM/SVATMARAMA/hyp.txt


This site is a jackpot for anyone interested in the wealth of knowledge India had in the past. (given is a link on arthashastra, but please do explore the site and also the quiz section.)

http://www.swaveda.com/Governance/Arthasha...rthashastra.htm (English)
http://sanskrit.gde.to/doc_z_misc_sociolog...logy/artha.html (Samskrit Arthashastra)

Site for veda lovers: (includes full length Audio of Ghanam too)

Sacred texts dot com : http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/index.htm
Kapila Sankhyam:

SHAKTHI AND Shaktha: (Sir John Woodroffe - Complete book online)

Indian Fairy tales: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/ift/index.htm
Twentytwo Goblins : http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/ttg/index.htm
Vikram and Vethala: http://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vav/index.htm

Bala gokulam (for children) http://www.balagokulam.org/

Hindu Svayamsevak Sangh:

Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda (online)


Here is the Autobiography of a Yogi.. complete version online...

(You need special fonts to view the Samskrit writings.)

And the second site is Chakravarthi Rajagopalachari's (Rajaji's) Ramayana, Mahabharatha etc, in english.
Ramayanam : http://www.switzerinstrument.com/Rajaji-.../ramayana/

Other works are here: http://www.switzerinstrument.com/Rajaji-Original/

<b>Here is MS.Subbhalakshmi's ENGLISH song, written by Rajaji, and sung at the United Nations.. it's very very melodious and beautiful. <!--emo&Smile--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> (Click on the MP3/Wav Button to play.) It is a real treat to hear this song..</b>
Sunder does'nt the song composition looks very similar to christian hyms, well you can say its alomost the same, also the audio quality makes MS voice to quiver. <!--emo&:unsure:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='unsure.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-rhytha+Dec 13 2003, 10:28 PM-->QUOTE(rhytha @ Dec 13 2003, 10:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> Sunder does'nt the song composition looks very similar to christian hyms, well you can say its alomost the same, also the audio quality makes MS voice to quiver. <!--emo&:unsure:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='unsure.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Rhytha ji, I agree it was composed and sung to please primarily western ears. It was composed by Chakravarthi "Rajaji" Rajagopalachari. and taking the time and place into consideration, I think MS had done a good job.. (The voice does not quiver on my machine as I have ADSL.)

I love the song because as an MS fan, this song is a rarity - and is perhaps the first and only english song I heard from her. I agree that the song has nothing to do with revival of Samskritham. <!--emo&Smile--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Intresting titbit regarding that UN concert

umAsvati, the great jaina Acharya produced a remarkable work termed the tattvArthAdhigama around 40 AD which contains one the great early productions of Hindu zoology.

umAsvati believed that all animals could be classified into the following groups:

Group I invertebrates:
apAdika = nematodes
nUpuraka = annelids
gandUpada = cnidaria
shankha,shutika,samubuka= molluscs

Group II
upachikA, kunthu, tuburaka
trapusavija, karapAsAsthikA
shatapadi, utpataka
kAShTha hAraka

Group III
bhramara, varaTa, sAranga
makShika, puttikA, daMSha, mashaka
vR^ishchika, nandyAvarta

Group VI
The vertebrates know as tiryakyonis
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Himachal man claims to have written smallest Gita
2003-12-14 Published by newindpress.com Gathered by Staff Reporter

SHIMLA,DECEMBER 14: A man in Himachal Pradesh claims to have written
the world's smallest Bhagvad Gita, the ancient gospel of Hindus. The
man, A.B. Rajwans, belongs to a village in Kangra district, some 240
km from here. Media reports Saturday quoted him as saying that the
holy book was 2.2 cm long, 1.7 cm broad and 1.3 cm thick. It has 169
pages. It contains all the 18 chapters and 700 Sanskrit verses of the
original document.

Monday December 15, 4:05 PM

Uma Bharati takes oath as legislator in Sanskrit
By Indo-Asian News Service

Bhopal, Dec 15 (IANS) The three-day session of the newly elected
Madhya Pradesh assembly began here Monday with Chief Minister Uma
Bharati and four of her ministers taking their oath as members of
the legislative assembly in Sanskrit.

Bharati's predecessor former chief minister Digvijay Singh also took
his oath as a legislator, but in Hindi.

The new chief minister was administered the oath by Speaker Jamuna
Devi at 11 a.m.

Besides the five - of her 17-member council of ministers - there
were some other legislators who also took the oath in Sanskrit.

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) led by Bharati came to power after
defeating the Congress in the assembly elections held on December 1.

The BJP won 173 seats while the Congress won only 39 seats in t
Can someone give me the translation of "Sanatana Dharma"?


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