Sanskrit

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Some study groups: http://www.samskrita-bharati.org/newsite/c...es.php#aksharam

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Gift for Sanskrit-speaking village</b>
NEW DELHI: Mattur, the only Sanskrit-speaking village in the country, is getting a special gift of Rs 8 lakh towards building a community hall, from the Sanskrit board’s, Year of Sanskrit Celebrations Fund. Former Supreme Court Chief Justice Ranganath Mishra, who is also the Chairman of the year of the Sanskrit celebrations, said the Human Resource Development Minister would be providing the community hall for the villagers of Mattur in Karnataka, who had themselves demanded building of a hall. — UNI<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[dhu]

Impressive compilation:
http://p081.ezboard.com/fhinduunityhinduis...start=1&stop=20
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sanskrit Words Essential to Know|
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Arya means Hindu
Aryaa means Aryan and sometimes Hindu

Dasyu means a person that cannot understand the Vedic way. The Iranic groups led by Vishvamitra in the Rigveda retaliated against the Puru tribe because they believed in a few different things. So they took with them their portion of the Rigveda. (Later founded Zoroastrianism)

Das means this same as Dasyu
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasyu

Raksas means a canibal. it is not a racial term.
Ramayana
In the Ramayana, the term Arya can also apply to Raksasas or to Ravana, if their behaviour was "Aryan". In several instances, the Vanaras and Raksasas call themselves Arya. The monkey king Surgriva is called an Arya (Ram: 505102712) and he also speaks of his brother Valin as an Arya (Ram: 402402434). In another instance in the Ramayana, Ravana regards himself and his ministers as Aryas (Ram: 600600512).

In the Ramayana (202901512) Rama describes a Suta as Arya and the Raksasa Indrajit even calls Rama an Anarya (Ramayana: 607502112).

The Ramayana describes Rama as: arya sarva samascaiva sadaiva priyadarsanah "Arya, who worked for the equality of all and was dear to everyone."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arya


Sanatan means "eternal" and is the word we use to describe our religion. It is also the name of Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. It is used many times in Hindu scriptures, including the Bhagavad Gita.
Vaidic Dharma is used in the Bhagavat Purana
Arya Dharma is used in the Rigveda and Bhavisya Purana<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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[quote=dhu,Apr 16 2006, 06:18 AM]
Impressive compilation:
http://p081.ezboard.com/fhinduunityhinduis...tart=21&stop=30
[quote]Sanskrit Words Essential to Know|
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Arya means Hindu
Aryaa means Aryan and sometimes Hindu

Dasyu means a person that cannot understand the Vedic way. The Iranic groups led by Vishvamitra in the Rigveda retaliated against the Puru tribe because they believed in a few different things. So they took with them their portion of the Rigveda. (Later founded Zoroastrianism)

Das means this same as Dasyu
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasyu
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so is Vishwamitra the patriach of all the iranian peoples?

the puru tribe if i remember right, wrote the Rig Veda. if not, then who was it?

finally who are the iranians?? iran's real name is persia, which comes from purush or something similar. whose descendant are the iranians??

i have asked for this before and i ask again - can some one give me the names of all the children of Manu and which tribe/peoples they went on to father?? Also are ALL indians descended from Bharat ??

[dhu]

Vishvamitra had fifty or so sons; many of which were exiled to the northwest which was India's version of an Australian way station. Persian/Parsi is from Parsu (axe), not purush. For that matter, peshawar is from pushpa (flower), not from purush. Much of this false 'purush' etymology was pushed by "mohammad-is-kalki-avatar"-type sufi subterfuge. This material is more thoroughly covered by member Sushmita in the Iran and India thread.

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thanks very much. sushmita despite our differences is one well informed member that i miss. wonder why she doesnt post anymore.


and now can someone pls answer the rest of the questions.


>>> can some one give me the names of all the children of Manu and which tribe/peoples they went on to father?? Also are ALL indians descended from Bharat ??

>>>the puru tribe if i remember right, wrote the Rig Veda. if not, then who was it?

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also is the abrahamic fable of noah and his descendants stolen from the legend and names of descendands of Manu. wont be surprised if thats so, cos most of judaism is plagarised from zorastrianism, sumerian religion etc.

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Ramayana
In the Ramayana, the term Arya can also apply to Raksasas or to Ravana, if their behaviour was "Aryan". In several instances, the Vanaras and Raksasas call themselves Arya. T
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but as per the Rg Veda, explained here (III , 5) http://voiceofdharma.org/books/rig/ch6.htm,

"The DAsas of the Rigveda are opposed to the Aryas: since the word Arya refers to PUrus in general and the Bharatas in particular,"


so how come the ramayana is in contradiction to the Rg Veda.

ALSO, who exactly are the Raksasas and the Vanaras (the vanaras are most probably the "jungle people" ie. the Vanvasis, wrongly called adi vasis of india) ??
which leaves out the Raksasas...

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<!--QuoteBegin-dhu+Apr 16 2006, 06:18 AM-->QUOTE(dhu @ Apr 16 2006, 06:18 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dasyu means a person that cannot understand the Vedic way. The Iranic groups led by Vishvamitra in the Rigveda retaliated against the Puru tribe because they believed in a few different things. So they took with them their portion of the Rigveda. (Later founded Zoroastrianism)

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confirmation here - same link and section as previous allusion -


"In sum: any analysis of the Rigveda and Avesta will make it clear that the main enemies of the Iranians in the Avesta, at least at the time of ZarathuStra, were the “Indoaryans”: i.e. the Vedic Aryans or PUrus"

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Namaste,
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can somebody (Sunder?) point me in the direction of an online text on Aryabhatium, the magnum opus of Aryabhatta the elder.there are 2 competing versions on a passage . i need to check which one is authentic and more prevalent.
what is a good source in INdia ?
seeAryabhatta1 for details

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<!--QuoteBegin-Kaushal+May 1 2006, 12:12 AM-->QUOTE(Kaushal @ May 1 2006, 12:12 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->can somebody (Sunder?) point me in the direction of an online text on Aryabhatium, the magnum opus of Aryabhatta the elder.there are 2 competing versions on a passage . i need to check which one is authentic and more prevalent.
what is a good source in INdia ?
seeAryabhatta1 for details
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Kaushal Garu, it has been crunchtime for a while - we were working towards organizing a Shankara Jayanthi celebrations here, and it went off well with great Participation in our little community. I do remember that I have an item pending on 'Sthree Dharma'. I will send you something when I get a chance.

Meanwhile, here is what I could find on the net. It is Aryabhatiya by Brahmagupta.
http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/texte/etcs/i...abhat/aryab.htm
You may need to download Titus Unicode font.

Hope this helps.

Sunder.

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Sunder, thank you, but i did not find the phrasing i was expecting for the particular veerse which is in Book 3(kalakriya pada). In this particular version it reads

ՙshastiabdānām ՙshastiis yadā vyatītās trayas ca yuga-pādās /

triadhika vimsatis abdās tadā iha mama janmanas atītās //

shastiabdānām ՙshastiis = 60 *60 ,3600 years after Kaliyuugai was 23 years old.which puts his DOB at 475 CE. But apparenntly thisis a fake.

So, I am still on the prowl for a edition which has never beentranslated into English and which may conhtain the phrase

shastiabdanam shadbhi (60*6) =360 years afterKaliyuga as mentioned by a couple of diffferent authors

what is the best source for authentic versions {preferably one that has not been translated into English already. As you may be aware i neednot emphasize the importance of Aryabhattiya in the pantheon ancient indian literature

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dhanurveda in English:

http://www.atarn.org/india/dhanurveda_eng.htm<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Some other stuff including Shakuntala in Sanskrit here:

http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/Sanskrit.html<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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" The Wonder That Is Sanskrit"
by Sampad and Vijay

The book is published by Aurobindo Society, in association with Mapin Publishing, Ahmedabad., www.mapinpub.com .

It is simultaneously published in USA by Grantha Corporation in 2002. ISBN: 1-890206-50-4 (Grantha) , Distributed in USA Antique Collectors' Club, Market Street Industrial Park Wappinger's Falls NY 12590, email: info@antiquecc.com

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<b>Brahmins lose domination over Sanskrit</b>!<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->AHMEDABAD: They dominate the merit list and are studying a language that has-- since the caste system took root-- been the privilege of the Brahmins.

<b>These are SC, ST and OBC students, studying Sanskrit at the Gujarat University, whose names occupy 70 per cent of the merit list! Of the 275 students in the open category merit list who cleared their bachelors for MA in Sanskrit at the University School of Languages, 200 are SCs, STs and OBCs. Seven of the top 10 on the list are from the backward classes.</b>

Professor and director of school of languages Vasantkumar Bhatt says, "Looks like the Brahmins have lost their monopoly in Sanskrit!" But for Kalol-based Mital Chavda, who tops the merit list at the school, it has nothing to do with caste. "Is English a language of the British anymore?" she argues. Agrees Mahesh Solanki, standing fifth on the merit list. Also an SC candidate, this son of a farmer from Radhanpur says, "No particular caste can lay their claim to a language."

<b>Both claim to have chosen Sanskrit for higher education, because they aspire to be teachers</b>. With most of these students hailing from villages around Ahmedabad and belonging to economically backward families, a secure job figures on top of their priority list. "Their financial position often leads them to take up Sanskrit which assures a job as a vidya sahayak in government schools," Bhatt says.

<b>Last year, 70 per cent of the students in MA-I and 69 per cent in MA-II who enrolled for undertaking study in Sanskrit at the university, were from the backward category. According to Bhatt, the dominance of these classes in taking up the Sanskrit course has been the dominating trend for the past six years-- </b>which takes you to the reservation debate once again.

While Chavda, daughter of a police constable, <b>feels that reservation does boost opportunities for the backward classes, another SC candidate for the MA programme, Haripriya Amin, is vehemently against it. "It's because of our performance that we got through the open category. I don't think more reservation is required," </b>says this 20-year-old from <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Look who’s teaching Sanskrit in UP
Tarannum Manjul
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/6435.html

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LUCKNOW, JUNE 13:Name: Shahid Zama Ansari.
Profession: Sanskrit teacher in Azamgarh district.
Name: Mohammad Lam Ansari.
Profession: Sanskrit teacher in Allahabad district.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Subject: [SamskritaBharati_SFBayArea] Family Camp, Special Shloka Class and Grand Ramayana Play

Namaste,

Samskrita Bharati would like to bring to your notice the following  announcements. Please forward to your friends.

A) <b>July 1-4 Samskritam Family Camp in Sausalito</b>

<b>Ideal for families to relax, learn samskritam and have fun in a  natural setting similar to our ancient Gurukula. Camp fees cover  cabin-lodging for four days, vegetarian food (breakfast, lunch and  dinner) and class handouts/books. Instruction and other activities  are provided at NO COST.</b>

The cabin site can accommodate ONLY 75 registrants including  children. Limited number of slots are still available. Please  register soon.

Highlights:
Different levels of classes (beginner to advanced)
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Hiking, games, campfire and evening entertainment programs
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Faculty includes Prof Kutumba Sastri, VC of Rashtriya Samskrt
Samsthan in India

<b>Haimavatii-samskrita-shibiram in Sausalito, CA
(10 miles north of San Francisco, CA)
Sat July 1 through Tue July 4
For registration and other details
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B) Other announcements:

1) Pilot Shloka Class for Children - 6 Sundays from June 18 500pm to 530pm via Conference Call

To register your children for this unique shloka class, write to  samskritabharati@yahoo.com or visit our website
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2) Registration/Audition for Grand Ramayana Play by Children A unique Ramayana play is being organized as part of Hindu Sangam – a day-long program (Sat Sep 9) to showcase the unity and cultural richness of Hindu diaspora in the Bay Area.

To register, please go to
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Important Dates:
Second and final audition - June 18, 2006

3) Save the date -- Sat Sep 9, 2006
Hindu Sangam 2006
Jointly coordinated by more than 40 Hindu Organizations

bhavadiiyaH,
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[Sunder]

IF it has not already posted, here is Wikipedia in Samskrit. It needs lots of Article contributions.
http://sa.wikipedia.org/ <!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Global meet stresses propagation of Sanskrit, says V-C

Staff Reporter

13th World Sanskrit Conference held at Edinburgh

# Vice-Chancellor of Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha nominated by Union Ministry to take part in the meet
# More patronage to Sanskrit in alien land than in its birthplace, he says
# Urges Indian youth to draw inspiration from countries propagating the language

TIRUPATI: The 13th World Sanskrit Conference held at the Scottish capital of Edinburgh in England between July 10 and 14 laid stress on preservation and propagation of Sanskritic knowledge hidden in Sanskrit, said Harekrishna Satapathy, Vice-Chancellor of Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha.

Prof.Satapathy, who had been nominated by the Union Ministry of Human Resource Department, to take part in the meet, involved himself in activities like `Kavi Sammelan' and `Sastra Charcha'.

Apart from presenting a research paper on `Concept of suggestive meaning in Sahitya sastra' at the meet, he enthralled the audience by reciting some verses.

Pioneering research

Addressing his staff and students on the Vidyapeetha campus on his return on Tuesday, Prof. Satapathy lauded the efforts taken at the global level to decipher the words of wisdom hidden in the language. He was all praise for Mr. Brooks for his pioneering research on manuscripts and William Jones for forming the Asiatic Society of India to study Sanskrit.

"More than in its birthplace, the divine language is getting a better treatment in alien land," he said, pointing out that research on the language and manuscripta in the langage was being spearheaded by Germany and other European countries.

He appealed to the Indian youth to draw inspiration from and engage themselves in a healthy competition with them. Prof. Satapathy was later felicitated by Registrar S.S.Murthy and other faculty members.