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Russian SA-21 Missile system

Sun, 16 Oct 2016 15:44:40 +0000

During the current visit of the Russian President to Goa, India - agreement has been reached to purchase six sets of SA-21 Surface to Air Missile systems at a estimated cost of Rs.40000 /- crores. This will be the first anti missile system to be procured by India. It has a range of 400 kms and is capable of destroying upto 36 targets simultaniously. It can be used against any flying object from aircraft to incoming missiles and even drones.In the face of continous nuclear threat from Pakistani leaders, it is a very timely acquisition and will certainly enhance national security.

Russia has also agreed to allow India the licensed production of light utility helecopters which will replace our Cheetak helecopters. The Indian navy will also be acquiring four medern warships, two of which will be built in Indian shipyards.All these measures will be art of the modernisation program which is long overdue.

Indian Surgical strike against Pakistan

Sun, 16 Oct 2016 05:24:27 +0000

The Surgical strike carried out by the Indian Army across the LOC in Jammu & Kashmir has come as a surprise to Pakistan. They had not expected such a strong reaction from India in retaliation to the continued terrorist attacks from across the border be it Pathankot or Uri. In the past India has always shown restraint and so the expectation of Pakistan had remained the same till the Surgical Strike took place. As a face saving measure, Pakistan has gone into a denial mode and has tried to pass on the incident as an exchange of fire across the LOC, which keeps on happening at regular intervals.

In PakistanÃ¢â¬â¢s domestic politics this has caused unexpected fallout. It has perhaps for the first time made the decision makers realize how diplomatically isolated Pakistan has become in the international arena.AS reported in a section of the Pakistan media, the Foreign Secretary at a high level meeting indicated that even China has indicated that it cannot support Pakistan indefinitely on the issue of harboring terrorists like Hafiz Sayeed .It has also been leaked in the Press that certain terror groups are under the protection of the ISI and the civil administration can take no action against them. Let us now hope that some wiser sense will prevail on the Pakistani leadership.

In the special session of the Pakistan National Assembly which was called for discussing the Kashmir situation, a number of members accused the Government of harboring terrorist elements in the country and allowing them and their organization to operate freely in the country. They felt that this is the main cause which has tarnished the image of the country and the world community today considers Pakistan as a country that protects and propagates terrorism. They called upon the Government to reign in the terrorist outfits. They reminded the Government that the world has changed and today many countries in the world are victims of terrorist attacks and therefore these countries will not support any bad terrorist or good terrorist.

The Pakistan media has expressed the view that India today is the fastest growing economy in the world and its economic clout is helping it to diplomatically isolating Pakistan. They were surprised to take note of the fact that Pakistan's close friends of the past like Saudi Arabia, UAE and other countries of the Muslim Umma are today al busy fostering their friendship with India. Even Iran and Afghanistan are all siding with India. These developments have become matters of great concern to the Pakistan leadership.

Heroes

Thu, 02 Jun 2016 14:35:29 +0000

1. twitter.com/bhaiyyajispeaks/status/730615139297202176

Quote:Narendra ji, man who diffused 256 bombs all alone & saved thousands of life died in a grenade blast yest. #JaiHind

[image:] pbs.twimg.com/media/CiOqmNIUgAIsMNS.jpg

9:26 PM - 11 May 2016

Bhaiyyaji Ã¢â¬Â@bhaiyyajispeaks May 11

Shree Narendra Chaudhary use to walk over 50 kms without water & food, never in his career got ill, They use to call him "Steel Man".

2. twitter.com/amitrajwant/status/733721351073173504

Quote:Swayamsevak pramod 1st victim of next five years of Leftist Terror in Kerala. @RSSorg

[image:] pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6zq2ZWEAAyqng.jpg

Leaking salt water again.

When will we avenge these people.

Pathankot terrorist attack

Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:01:22 +0000

The terrorist attack at the airbase in Pathankot has once again pointed out that the security of our defense installations needs to be improved and all other related procedures needs to be fine tuned. Fortunately, there has been no damage to the defense assets and neither there has been any civilian casualty.

Readers are welcome to express their views on the issue.

Useful Idiots: Indian christians' major contribution to draining India's wealth into Europe

Sat, 24 Jan 2015 09:37:11 +0000

As in the title.

The colonial west couldn't have impoverished India so completely without the help of their ever helpful Useful Idiots: Indian christians. And converts never saw how they were used (just as they still don't, just like the converted E Timorese didn't see it either).

Thread need not be limited to historical cases, as it is inevitable that the more India converts to christianism, the more the converts will slave away to do the christoconditioned west's bidding. The worst situation will be when all of India is converted to monotheism: the west will pull an East Timor, favouring islam over the idiot Indian christian converts, if islam happens to be more useful in the long run, and certainly if it is more numerous/has more power over the Indian resources the west wants. Unlike the west, islam primarily wants people - converts - not resources. The west pretends to want converts, but only to have more power over resources and better access (such as for their bases).

So, the west and islam get along quite well, which is why they made a nice pact in E Timor and sacrificed the christo-converted E Timorese for this.

Indian christians imagine that the west actually cares about their conversion to christianism/their status as christians. The converts' naivete is quite pathetic. Nothing has changed from the colonial era when Indian christians were merely a means to loot the Indian nation of its wealth and when Indian christians were merely a fifth column set up by the west to get what the *west* wanted from India and Indians (including the useful idiots=Indian christians).

This thread is actually created as a placeholder to post the material meant for substantiating the following claimed in another thread:

[quote name='Husky' date='02 January 2015 - 10:31 PM' timestamp='1420217590' post='117501']

As seen in the first article, the west very much intends for Indian christians to keep islamania occupied, to become foot soldiers in a war against islam, to keep islam occupied in prolonged bloody wars/strife, to keep the west from having to get into a messy fight with islam and to christoislamise India (which turns it into a nation paying tribute to the west and a permanent 3rd world hell-hole like Iraq now and TSP). At 150 million - as per American missions - and expected to grow, Indian christians are very great in number, not to mention on fire to do the bidding of their christian masters as their first and only loyalty is to christianism. And the west did always consider Indians - convert or not - expendable and merely a means to an end. (More fool Indian converts to christianism if they didn't know this. Even in the colonial era, several missionaries are documented as speaking haughtily about their converts whom they didn't even like. And you can find American missionaries still writing among themselves that the African and Indian converts they have made are 'idiots, but at least they're christian.' Nothing much has changed from the colonial era.)

There are missionary journal articles on why the Brits were so interested in converting Travancore's population to christianism: missionaries set up plantations to take over the region's famous wealth and converted bonded labourers working in agro into willing slaves for christian plantation missions instead (which seemed like no change in their circumstances, except their situation actually went from bad to worse, as admitted by missionaries themselves) - all in order to redirect the wealth into British hands instead of leaving it in the hands of independent Travancore, and to let the Brits control this wealth and send it back to Britain, depleting even the wealth of a part of India outside British rule. Moreover, converts would allow Britain to takeover Travancore if the chance arose/if it became necessary or useful, as sheep were always loyal to their christomasters, however alien. The same way that Indian christos have loyalty to their western masters now and are regularly remote controlled by the US.

Similarly, the Portuguese were interested in converting the Paravas, because the latter's pearl industry was worth a fortune, which Portugal eyed for itself: once again the indigenous wealth (indigenous while the Paravas were Hindu) was diverted to foreign christian nations by converting the wealth-generating Parava community into sheep. When a fight broke out between Jesuits and the Portuguese catholic rule in Goa about who could control the Paravas (for the wealth they generated), the Jesuits and Portuguese nearly destroyed the converted community by stoking civil war within the Parava community. Sheep are THAT stupid: they played right into the hands of both the Jesuits and the catholic Portuguese infesting Goa at the time. Non-existent jeebus was always a convenient fiction to rob the nitwitted converts blind.

The point being that christowest does not care about Indian converts and never did. They view them in terms of the resources, wealth and labour that they represent, and now also as a buttress against islamic jihad. Europe does not have the numbers it is willing to sacrifice against ISIS and AQ, let alone if either spreads to populous TSP-E/W or Indonesia. Indian christian converts make good footsoldiers for the west - plus christians love nothing better than to be "persecuted" and play "martyr" - plus the west always wanted to reduce the subcontinent's population. So christian converts are already marked as expendables, meant to be expended a.o.t. to survive.[/quote]

In a document somewhere on my HDD, had already excerpted passages - and inserted my own interfering comments here and there - from several journal articles penned by western missionaries, where they accidentally reveal the crucial bits of info. Two or more of the articles were mainly intended as evangelical psy-ops against Hindu religion, but in the course of this, the alien christos blabbed useful details about how the Brits and Portuguese etc actually operated and what they were actually in it for and what they actually thought of their converted sheep (to put it mildly: they *really* looked down on them. Nothing has changed.)

I plan to locate that document. In the meantime, a week or so back, happened upon the following which totally fits in with the same theme: that of this thread -

2ndlook.wordpress.com/2007/12/29/1857-some-history-some-propaganda/

Quote:B said, on May 7, 2012 at 11:24 am

Ã¢â¬ÅThe French traveller Tavernier reputedly (call it ancient industrial espionage) took that technology to Europe.

Regarding intellectual property theft/ industrial espionage, more research needs to be done. See this regarding Indian textile technology.

Please see Cotton: The Biography of a Revolutionary Fiber By Stephen Yafa p.30

Ã¢â¬ÅÃ¢â¬ÂAs for the Indian methods of Ã¢â¬ÅanimalizingÃ¢â¬Â cotton, they remained mysterious to most European printers until much later than might be expected Ã¢â¬â for seventy years after the arrival of chintz. Ironically, it was a man of the cloth, Jesuit Father Coeurdoux, who betrayed these fiercely guarded secrets. In 1742 the French cleric took advantage of his missionary posting on the Coromandel coast to gain the trust of Indian master dyers whom he had converted to Catholicism. They confided their secret process to him with an understanding that he would never reveal it. Coeurdoux immediately gave a detailed description in a step-by-step letter published in France. In a blink, three thousand years of clandestine artisan practice became public knowledge.Ã¢â¬ÂÃ¢â¬Â

This missionary Jesuit Father Coeurdoux also seems to have played an active role in Ã¢â¬Ëtemple/idolÃ¢â¬â¢ breaking in Pondicherry.

(Oh but of course. It always goes hand in hand: christian faithfulness/iconoclasm, missionising, MNCs and the making of the 3rd world. I have a feeling that that last phrase is the title of a book or something, it sounds so familiar. Oh yes, no wonder it's familiar: "Late Victorian Holocausts: El-Nino Famines & the Making of the 3rd World")

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Anuraag Sanghi said, on May 7, 2012 at 12:15 pm

Average

After: Ã¢â¬â

1. Intellectual property theft, the West mechanized textile technology

2. With which they further visited depredation on the global textile industry

3. While protecting their own markets till about 10 years ago, using the Multi-Fibre Agreement

4. They talk of free markets and intellectual property rights

This behaviour is not surprising.

What is surprising is the wide-eyed admiration that some of us have of the West!

Note all the converted 2nd and 3rd world are forever subordinated because they can't escape christianism: they object within the hierarchy but are never able to break the cycle. That's because they are christian and part of the system and uphold the christian caste hierarchy.

And so, one sees South/Central American pastors asking the US - which became rich by stealing from S/C America - about how the wealth of North America is directly proportional to the poverty of South America.

They have asked multiple times. Nothing has changed. If they were anything but christian - if the E Timorese had been anything but christian - they'd have thrown off the yoke or tried to.

But christianism has a way of undermining all and making third worlds out of industrious populations who would have been 1st worlders weren't it for christian meddling (missionising) and of course the treachery of the 5th column (the local converts in their midst). Let's be honest, if India had no christoislam infesting it and constantly blocking its rise every which way, India would already be affluent - a "1st world country" - like Japan. And not despite Hindu religion but *because* of Hindu religion.

Inflitrators (aliens) sabotaging jetsetting Indian cults

Wed, 21 Jan 2015 03:42:45 +0000

(Actual example cases will appear in the next posts.)

This thread is on how aliens (infiltrators) always sabotage any jetsetting Indian cult that becomes prominent/popular or even just a part of alien scenery.

E.g. ISKCON which was - and will be again - marred by child sex abuse scandals, Sai Baba had way too many alien "followes and the same thing happened there. Then there was Nityananda, also exposed by alien and native women for alleged sexual misconduct too.

I don't care if these people/orgs are allegedly innocent and if it was false allegations or cryptochristo infiltrators that have tarred them.

My point is that these "charismatic" "swamis" or organisations are actually a threat to real Hindoo religion and Hindoo society because they invite aliens to come terrorise Hindoodom. The same problem seen in anti-Hindu govts allowing "certificates of conversion to Hinduism" to *alien* converts, so that these can invade Hindoo temples and sacred sites in the Hindoo homeland. Who invited aliens? Not traditional Hindoo society. Only jetsetting Indian cults/Indian cults conceitedly seeking western conversion=approval=admiration.

So whether the allegations of misconduct and foul play against the various cults "movements" be true or not, the ill-fame is all actually good for Hindoos and their Hindoo religion, because traditional Hindoos never wanted aliens to "convert" or "dabble" and are Not grateful to jetsetting cults inviting western people and thereby facilitating alien dabbling.

For now, Indians - unable to wake up to the threat - only speak about international Indian cults not "vetting" aliens properly etc. That is, the "error" is apparently in not choosing quality aliens but blindly accepting any and all. In reality, lots of aliens who are made "swamis" and given high rank and position tend to be the greatest infiltratis of all: inculturationists, subversionists, you name it.

But like native Americans, Hindus may realise the scale and extent of the real threat too late, but even Hindus may in time realise it.

So that eventually:

+ Hindus *will* realise that all alien-dabbling=aliens=bad, without nonsensically trying to differentiate between "good aliens (good alien dabbling)" and "bad aliens (bad alien dabbling)". Because neither belong in Hindoos' ancestral heathenism.

+ Hindus *will* one day - too late, of course - come to the very same conclusions as the Lakota/Dakota/Nakota native N Americans who issued their declaration of war to all alien-dabblers and the native traitors facilitating both alien dabbling and the conversion of their heathenism into new-ageisms. At present Malhotra is only objecting to aliens' dismantling and usurping of Indian religions, eventually even he may twig that dabbling by aliens=unheathens are universally the problem, and that all Indian attempts to universalise Hindu religion (to use my own words) is the other half of that problem.

Hindus too will issue a Declaration of War on that day - the realisation itself an indicator that it is all too late and the damage is beyond reparable at that point - banning all alien dabbling (including "converts" etc) and invasion of temples, and banning "Hindu" charlatans inviting aliens to dabble and selling "Hinduism Lite" under various new-age labels to alien climes.

puffin.creighton.edu/lakota/war.html
thepeoplespaths.net/articles/warlakot.htm

+ aliens will cease to "join up" in jetsetting Indian cults, or to learn aspects of Hindoo religion from Hindoos, becoming more set against Hindoo religion as an "evil" (though they will still dabble in Pure Vedicism and other rebranded alien variants unashamedly poached from Hindoo religion) and so aliens will cease to terrorise Hindoos in the homeland. It will take much longer for aliens to grow so tired and bored with all things Hindooism - whether under that name or others like "Pure Vedicism" - that they stop dabbling altogether. But by that time, no doubt the alien vampires will have started to en-masse suck the life out of Taoism etc next, although beginnings to this end have already been made by many alien dabblers, though not the majority. And Taoism will be subjected to the levels of oryanist dabbling seen in Hindoo religion, when Victor Mair et al have had some more decades to brainwash the world into believing that Taoism's origins are derived from some oryan religion. Then the alien's sense of entitlement to all things oryan will take over and they will - in larger numbers than are at it now - do to Chinese religion what they have been doing to Hindoo religion. <- This is actually in large part Hindus' fault. Perhaps Hindus are paying for it in advance? Time will tell. The irony of course is that traditional Taoists have always taken cares to keep their religion entirely private from prying envious alien eyes and prohibit dabbling still. Nevertheless, Hindus having encouraged aliens' self-entitlement complex, will have fed the alien frenzy for dabbling and grown their self-entitlement so much more that aliens will just leap into Taoism without even waiting for jetsetting cults to issue invitations.

All sincere western people (i.e. of the christoconditioned world) would be returning to their own ancestral religion=Gods, never dabbling in others' ancestral heathenisms, and there's no two ways about this. As argument: How would Hindoos react if a Hindu said they were converting out to Hellenismos (or Taoism)? I mean, both are like the regional/ethnic equivalents of the Indian variant of heathenism, Hindoo religion. So why would any Hindoo convert to Taoism or Hellenismos. *Likewise* it makes no sense for western people to convert to Hindoo religion, when their own ancestral heathenisms exist, and most importantly because their ancestral Gods cannot die and live forever and therefore yet exist, and so they can very definitely regain their ancestral heathenism (with some effort) if they but sincerely pursued their ancestral Gods.

But aliens don't because they are either new-agey of mind and want to dabble or because they are christian of mentality and want to infiltrate Hindoo religion and Indian cults and scuttle these.

A lot of posts that belong equally in this thread - such as those arguing against alien dabbling, and examples of alien dabbling that none but morons among "Hindu" Indians would welcome - have already been posted in other IF threads. Some newer examples follow.

The actual War Declaration of the Lakota/Nakota/Dakota:

puffin.creighton.edu/lakota/war.html

And here are the considerations and arguments that gave rise to their Declaration of War:

thepeoplespaths.net/articles/warlakot.htm

Quote:Article On The

"Lakota Declaration of War"

By Valerie Taliman

Copyright ÃÂ© 1993 Taliman

All Rights Reserved

This article is from the twice monthly newspaper, News From Indian Country, 1993. As published by Indian Country Communications, Inc. with offices at Rt.2 Box 2900A, Hayward, WI 54843.

It also appeared in The Circle, 1530 E. Franklin Ave., Minneapolis, MN 55404 (612) 871-4555. Subscription - $15/yr; $25 2 yrs. Voted BEST NATIVE AMERICAN MONTHLY NEWSPAPER - 1991, 1993 by the Native American Journalists Association.

While Native Nations continue the flight for religious freedom rights, "New Age" hucksters and other exploiters of Indian spirituality run rampant throughout the country, forcing Native people to take a stand against the desecration of their spiritual ways.

As more people turn away from conventional religions and seek spiritual solace in alternative beliefs such as the New Age movement, increasing numbers of Euroamericans "wannabe" Indians when it comes to spirituality. But in their quest to learn and practice Indian ways, non-Indians have often abused sacred ceremonies and ceremonial objects suck as pipes and medicine bundles. And that abuse of the sacred, say many medicine people, is causing turmoil in Native societies prompting some spiritual leaders to speak out against further desecration of ceremonial ways.

At the Lakota Summit V, an international gathering of US and Canadian Lakota, Dakota and Nakota nations, about 500 representatives from 40 different tribes and bands of the Lakota unanimously passed a "Declaration of War Against Exploiters of Lakota Spirituality." The summit was held June 7 to 11, 1993.

The Declaration of War is intended for those who "persist in exploiting, abusing and misrepresenting the sacred traditions and spiritual practices of the Lakota people." The declaration denounces individuals involved in the New Age movement, shamanism, cultists, neopaganists and the men's movement who promote "intolerable and obscene imitations of sacred Lakota rites."

"For too long we have suffered the unspeakable indignity of having our most precious Lakota ceremonies and spiritual practices desecrated, mocked and abused by non-Indian wannabes, hucksters, cultists, and self-styled New Age shamans and their followers," the Declaration of War reads.

"The absurd public posturing of this scandalous assortment of pseudo-Indian charlatans, wannabes, commercial profiteers and cultists comprise a momentous obstacle in the struggle of traditional Lakota people for adequate public appraisal of the legitimate political, legal and spiritual needs of real Lakota people."

Wilmer Mesteth, a traditional spiritual leader and Lakota culture instructor at Oglala Lakota College, told the summit participants that he was aware that sacred ceremonies were being imitated and even sold by non-Indians as well as certain Indian people.

"We have to put a stop to it," Mesteth said. "We are the ones who were given these ceremonies so that the people would remain together and strong. We were told to take care of these ceremonies so that our children and their children would have future.

"For a long time we have stood by and watched this abuse going on and we see how it is affecting the people. Nut now its time to take a stand to defend our people and our ways."

Mesteth, along with Darrell Standing Elk and Phyllis Swift Hawk, was one of the principal authors of the Declaration of War Against Exploiters of Lakota Spirituality, which urges Lakota people to prevent "our own people from contributing to and enabling the abuse of our sacred ceremonies by outsiders and certain ones among our people who are prostituting our spiritual ways for their own selfish gain, with no regard for the spiritual well being of the people as a whole."

It also urges people to identify instances where sacred tradition are being abused and to work toward stopping the abuse through demonstrations, boycotts, press coverage and direct intervention.

With many other spiritual leaders present and in support of the document, Mesteth told the crowd, "Sacred traditions like our Lakota Pipe ceremony, vision quests, sweatlodge ceremonies and the sundance were given to us by our Creator and have enabled Indian people to survive a 500 year holocaust," he said. "Those sacred tradition are precious to us and can't allow them to be desecrated and abused."

One hot spot that has attracted the ire of Lakota spiritual leaders is California's Bay Area, where street vendors on Telegraph Avenue routinely sell drug paraphernalia made from sacred pipestone.

New Agers in the elite section of San Francisco hold their weekly "sweat ceremonies" with rocks heated in propane barbecue pits and living room fireplaces. Many charge admission for imitation sweat lodge ceremonies, vision quests and puberty ceremonies for young women that are performed by self proclaimed "shamans."

Lakota songs and prayers are often used as are rituals from many other tribes and mixed with non-Indian occult practices. Many medicine people say that these groups are creating a hodgepodge of harmful and offensive imitation ceremonies that exploit and abuse spiritual traditions of the Lakota and other tribes.

To meet the growing demand for Native spiritual knowledge, Bay Area universities and institutions have responded to the growing demand for Native spiritual knowledge by offering classes that purport to teach the particulars of vision quests, sundances, shamanism and the "Good Red Road" way of life.

(Comparable to the various western-self-appointed wannabes and dabblers who set themselves up to teach yoguh and tantra and "shaivam" - see a book by an anti-Hindu (from Oxford uni IIIRC) reviewed by Koenraad Elst at koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2013/06/tantra-for-practitioner.html and the book's dabbling author has profusely spammed the comments section - and the 'vedas' and 'mantras' in general. And how western universities have anti-Hindu aliens to "teach" "Hinduism" by deliberately distorting it in the worst possible ways. It's what the west has always done.

The west - esp. its universities - "teaching" native American religion/spirituality in order to cheapen it and make it new-age is also *deliberate* genocide by the way. Ex-christian AmeriKKKans went through a phase of wanting to dabble in native American religion and AmeriKKKan christians/academe quickly noticed the "threat" to their "christian civilisation" of so many people dabbling in native American religion that they invested heavily in subverting native American religion in order to put a stop to it and to kill native Americans some more.

That is exactly what is happening now with Hindoo religion too.)

As the epidemic of exploitation and expropriation of Indian spirituality continues to spread, more Native people are taking direct action to put a stop to the "spiritual genocide" being committed by those who imitate Lakota ceremonies.

John LaVelle, a Santee Dakota living in the Bay Area, recently was shoved and pushed into the street for confronting a Berkeley street vendor who regularly sells pipestone carved into marijuana pipes. Police responded to the scuffle and assault charges were subsequently filed against the vendors.

LaVelle's actions are part of the ongoing efforts of the center for the SPIRIT (Support and Protection of Indian Religions and Indigenous Traditions), a San Francisco-based organization of Indian people committed to halting the exploitation of Native ceremonies. The Center in dedicated to protecting Indian spiritual practices and traditions and is working to raise public awareness on American Indian religious freedom issues.

Darrell Standing Elk, a Sicangu Lakota and long-time traditional Lakota counselor who serves as board president of the Center, said the situation in the Bay Area reached a point where he and other Native people felt that something had to be done.

The Center for the Spirit has made a practice of confronting and refuting books, literature and seminars promoted by self-proclaimed "medicine people" such as Lynn Andrews, a Beverly Hills housewife-turned-shaman. Andrews has written several best-sellers on her journey to becoming a "medicine woman" under the tutelage of a Canadian Indian elder and conducts expensive, and very popular, seminars on shamanism.

At this year's Whole Life Expo, a conference of "New Age thought" held in Los Angeles in March, Center staff and members of the local American Indian Movement confronted Andrews and tried to convince her to admit that what she was writing about was fantasy, not Indian spirituality. Andrews is reportedly considering the proposal but has not officially responded as she is negotiating a movie deal, according to Patti Jo King, a publicist for the Center.

(Can compare with Penguin publishers' unPerumal unMurugan's fantasy-derived libel against Hindoo communities in Tiruchengode.

Also like anti-Hindu Donigers' and new-agey aliens' nonsense about Hindu religion should all be made to admit they are indulging in fantasy.

And the "pure vedicism" nonsense meant to replace Hindus with aliens, i.e. to dislodge Hindoos from Hindoo religion.)

As Native Nations lobby Congress and work toward strengthening the Native American Free Exercise of Religion Act (NAFER), Standing Elk noted that it is imperative that supporters address the exploitation of Indian spirituality. "We are in danger of having our sacred spiritual ways stolen from us - the key to our survival," he said. "We must raise a united voice of protest against those who steal our spiritual traditions and tell them 'You cannot have them, not today, not tomorrow, NEVER.'"

:applause:

Exactly. Hindus need to *learn* from these people who - unlike modern Hindus - tend to have the sense to at least learn from their experience of the behaviour and character of aliens.

So ok, admittedly modern Hindus are nowhere near as clever as native Americans - seen in how the more English that modern "Hindus" can speak, the more desperate they are for foreign converts and defending alien dabbling. But you know, once in a while, even modern Hindus should stop being conceited and try to learn from other similar heathen populations' experiences instead of re-inventing the wheel.

Hindus should likewise pull the rug from underneath aliens' feet and declare - as is the truth - that there are no aliens who have ever been genuinely "initiated" into anything Hindoo.

Nothing but subversion and death of heathenism comes from aliens. They are spiritual "vampires" who like to suck the life out of heathenisms. It's all they can do. Because they are aliens. (If they weren't alien=unheathens, they'd be practising their own ancestral heathenism instead of terrorising that of others.)

Christian terrorism aka Christian State aka "India-for-christ" outfits

Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:25:21 +0000

Enough with the innocuously-titled "christian missionary" threads.

Why are there islamic terrorism threads and none on christian terrorism?

Today's news: death toll of adivasis (aka HindOOs) by christian outfit NFBD - christmas offering to jeebusjehovallah - is at 62. (And counting)

The most romantic things to do on honeymoon

Wed, 09 Jul 2014 13:33:09 +0000

Warning â Try these at your own risk.

You honeymoon is indeed one of the most special times of your life. Isnât it? So we (Satrupa & me at WeAreHolidays) compiled a list of 9 most romantic things to do on honeymoon. Go ahead and read on. 7th is my own favourite and I wish to do on my honeymoon.

[url="http://www.weareholidays.co.in/articles/things-to-do/9-romantic-things-to-do-on-your-honeymoon/"]http://www.weareholidays.co.in/articles/things-to-do/9-romantic-things-to-do-on-your-honeymoon/[/url]

Rape crimes in India vs elsewhere: deliberate disproportionate reporting by international news

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 17:31:46 +0000

Archiving thread.

Topic as in title.

1. Rape crimes in India vs in other countries. About the disproportionate reporting by international news, and why this is so obviously deliberate.

2. Also about the concealment of the religion of the victims in Indian cases who are almost always Hindu and the attempted concealment of the ideology of perpetrators, who are always adherents of either islam, christianity, communism or else anti-Hindu psecularism.

The reason for the thread is as stated: to archive how similar crimes elsewhere - both shortly before and ever since the first Indian crime of this nature that made headlines around the world - never got reported globally with the same intensity nor were they made to reflect on the nations in which they occurred let alone their populations. Whereas in the Indian case, this is evolved into - obviously christian-masterminded - stories into how India (read Hindu) is anti-women and how Hindu men and hence Hinduism are the villains, even though the rapists even in the sensationalised cases are never Hindus.

[color="#0000FF"]Goes without saying that the items can and most probably will contain disturbing/graphic material.[/color] It is the very nature of the topic, obviously.

Some news items will just be headings with date and location or snippets if possible. Others unfortunately will contain more detail.

History of Qutub Shahi Dynasty

Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:50:55 +0000

[color="#252525"][size="4"]The [/size][/color]Qutb Shahi dynasty[color="#252525"][size="4"] ([/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language"]Persian[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"]: [/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"]ÃÂ³ÃâÃÂ·Ãâ ÃÂª ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§Ãâ¡ÃÅ[/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"]Ã¢â¬Å½) was a [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia"]Shia[/url][color="#252525"] [/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim"]Muslim[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkman_people"]Turkman[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] dynasty of [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Koyunlu"]Kara Koyunlu[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] origin that initially patronized[/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persianate"]Persianate[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] culture. Its members were collectively called the [/size][/color]Qutub Shahis[color="#252525"][size="4"] and were the ruling family of the kingdom of [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] in modern-day [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh"]Andhra Pradesh[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"], [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"]. The Golconda sultanate was constantly in conflict with the Adil Shahis and Nizam Shahis.[/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"] In 1636, [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Jahan"]Shah Jahan[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"]forced the Qutb Shahis to recognize Mughal suzerainty,[/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"] which lasted until 1687 when the Mughal emperor [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] conquered the Golcondan sultanate.[/size][/color]

History

[color="#252525"][size="4"][size="2"][center][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Golkonda_curtain.jpg"][/url][size="3"][left][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Golkonda_curtain.jpg"][/url]Section of a Tent Hanging or Curtain, Golconda, late 17th century.[/left][/size][/center][/size][/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"]The dynasty's founder, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Quli_Qutb-ul-Mulk"]Sultan Quli Qutb-ul-Mulk[/url], migrated to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi"]Delhi[/url] with his uncle, Allah-Quli, some of his relatives and friends in the beginning of the 16th century. Later he migrated south, to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url] and served the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahmani_Sultanate"]Bahmani sultan[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Shah"]Mohammad Shah[/url]. He conquered Golconda, after the disintegration of the Bahmani Kingdom into the five [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_sultanates"]Deccan sultanates[/url]. Soon after, he declared independence from the Bahmani Sultanate, took the title Qutub Shah, and established the Qutb Shahi dynasty of Golconda. He was later assassinated in 1543 by his son, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Jamsheed[/url], who assumed the sultanate. He later died in 1550 from cancer. Jamsheed's young son reigned for a year, at which time the nobility brought back and installed Ibrahim Quli as sultan. During the reign of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url], relations between Hindus and Muslims were strengthened, even to the point of Hindus resuming their religious festivals like [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diwali"]Diwali[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holi"]Holi[/url]. Some Hindus rose to prominence in the Qutb Shahi state, the most important example being the ministers[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madanna_and_Akkanna"]Madanna and Akkanna[/url].[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Golconda, and with the construction of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Char Minar[/url], later [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url] served as capitals of the sultanate, and both cities were embellished by the Qutb Shahi sultans. The dynasty ruled Golconda for 171 years, until the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire"]Mughal[/url] emperor [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] conquered the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url]in 1687.[/size][/color]

Culture

[color="#252525"][size="4"]The Qutub Shahi rulers were great builders, which included the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Char Minar[/url], as well as[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patron"]patrons[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning"]learning[/url]. Quli Qutb Mulk's court became a haven for Persian culture and literature. Sultan [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url](1580Ã¢â¬â1612) wrote poems in Dakhini Urdu, Persian and Telugu and left a huge poetry collection. Subsequent poets and writers, however wrote in Urdu, while using vocabulary from Persian, Hindi and Telugu languages. By 1535, the Qutub Shahis were using Telugu for their revenue and judicial areas within the sultanate.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Initially, the Qutub Shahi rulers patronized [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persianate"]Persianate[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture"]culture[/url], but eventually adopted the regional culture of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url], symbolized by the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language"]Telugu language[/url] and the newly developed [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakhni"]Deccani idiom[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url] became prominent. Although Telugu was not their mother tongue, the Golconda rulers spoke and wrote Telugu, and patronized Telugu so exclusively they were termed the "Telugu Sultans". In 1543, fearing for his life, Prince [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli[/url] fled to the Vijayanagaran court, which lavishly patronized the Telugu language. Upon his enthronement as sultan in 1550, Ibrahim Quli was thoroughly acquainted with Telugu aesthetics.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]The Qutb Shahi architecture was Indo-Persian, a culmination of Hindu, Moorish, Mughal and Persian architectural styles.[/size] [size="4"]Some examples of Golcondan Indo-Persian architecture are the Golconda Fort, [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_Tombs"]tombs of the Qutb Shahis[/url][size="4"], [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Minar"]Char Minar[/url][size="4"] and the [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Kaman"]Char Kaman[/url][size="4"], [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca_Masjid"]Mecca Masjid[/url][size="4"] and the [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toli_Masjid"]Toli mosque[/url][size="4"].[/size][/color]

Religion

[color="#252525"][size="4"]The Qutub Shahis patronized Shia Islam and at Friday sermons had the names of the Twelve Imams and the Safavids read aloud, however, this ended in 1636 when the Shah Jahan gained suzerainty over the Golcondan sultanate. Although they were [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia"]Shias[/url], Sunni Islam and Hinduism were also tolerated. As such, the culture of the Qutb Shahi dynasty has been considered a "composite" of Hindu-Moslem religio-social culture.[/size][/color]

Rulers

[color="#252525"][size="4"]The seven [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan"]sultans[/url] in the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty"]dynasty[/url] were:[/size][/color]

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Quli_Qutb-ul-Mulk"]Sultan Quli Qutb-ul-Mulk[/url] (1518Ã¢â¬â1543)
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1543Ã¢â¬â1550)
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhan_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Subhan Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1550)
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1550Ã¢â¬â1580)
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1580Ã¢â¬â1612)
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah"]Sultan Muhammad Qutb Shah[/url] (1612Ã¢â¬â1626)
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Qutb_Shah"]Abdullah Qutb Shah[/url] (1626Ã¢â¬â1672)
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah"]Abul Hasan Qutb Shah[/url] (1672Ã¢â¬â1689)

Tombs

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Title of 'Tana Shah'

[color="#252525"][size="4"][size="2"][center][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Govardhan_II,_Visit_of_sufi-singer_Shir_Muhammad_to_Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah,_ca._1720,_Biblioth%C3%A8que_nationale_de_France,_Paris.jpg"][/url][size="3"][left][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Govardhan_II,_Visit_of_sufi-singer_Shir_Muhammad_to_Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah,_ca._1720,_Biblioth%C3%A8que_nationale_de_France,_Paris.jpg"][/url]Visit of Sufi-singer Shir Muhammad to Abul Hasan Qutb Shah, ca. 1720, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_nationale_de_France"]BibliothÃÂ¨que nationale de France[/url], Paris.[/left][/size][/center][/size][/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"]His real name was Abul Hasan and nicknamed as 'Tana Shah' even before he was contender to the throne of Golconda by his teacher, a Sufi saint called Hazrat Syed Shah Raziuddin, popularly known as Hazrat Shah Raju Qattal. Hazrat Shah Raju was eighth in the lineage of the Sufi saint Hazrat Syedna Khwaja Banda Nawaz [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesu_daraz"]Gesu daraz[/url]of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulbarga"]Gulbarga[/url]. Abul Hassan had a good voice and sang well. He also had a certain innocence about him. Shah Raju, therefore, gave him the nickname of `Tana Shah' which means a child saint.[/size][size="4"] He was also known as [/size]Tani Shah[size="4"], meaning "benevolent ruler".[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]He is remembered as a popular statesman who did not discriminate against those of another ethnicity or religion. He hired [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmin"]Brahmins[/url] as his ministers and generals. For example [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madanna_and_Akkanna"]Madanna and Akkanna[/url], Brahmin brothers from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanamkonda"]Hanamkonda[/url], were his most important ministers. Tana Shah gained a place in Telugu literature due to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kancharla_Gopanna"]Kancharla Gopanna[/url], nephew of Madanna. Kancharla Gopanna is famously known as "Ramadasu". Ramadasu lived in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelakondapalli"]Nelakondapalli[/url] village in Palvancha taluk. Tani Shah hired him as "[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehsildar"]Tehsildar[/url]" (head of the revenue department) of Palvancha taluk. Ramadasu diverted the public funds to construct a Rama temple in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhadrachalam"]Bhadrachalam[/url] and for the jewelry for the idols of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama"]Rama[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sita"]Sita[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshmana"]Lakshmana[/url]. Tana Shah found Ramadasu guilty of misappropriation of public funds and put him in jail.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Earlier Tana Shah's father-in-law [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Qutb_Shah"]Abdullah Qutb Shah[/url] was forced by [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] to acknowledge the suzerainty of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Jahan"]Shah Jahan[/url]. And his daughter was wed to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url]'s son Sultan Muhammad.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]About the year 1683, Abul Hasan Qutb Shah appears to have become irregular in payments of taxes to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughals"]Mughals[/url] and his relations with [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikandar_Adil_Shah"]Sikandar Adil Shah[/url] also caused concern among the Mughals. Abul Hasan Qutb Shah consequently refused to be a vassal of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire"]Mughal Empire[/url] and prompted [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] to initiate a campaign to assert the rule of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughals"]Mughals[/url] on[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url]. He attacked Golconda. With his able commanders Nawab Khwaja Abid Siddiqi (Qilich Khan) and Qaziuddin Khan Siddiqi father and grand father of Nizam I (Asaf Jah I). Tana Shah defended the fort for eight months, but Aurangazeb succeeded in capturing Golconda at the end in September 1687. Abul Hasan Qutb Shah surrendered and handed over the[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur-Ul-Ain_Diamond"]Nur-Ul-Ain Diamond[/url], the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Diamond"]Hope Diamond[/url], the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittelsbach_Diamond"]Wittelsbach Diamond[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Regent_Diamond"]the Regent Diamond[/url], making the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Emperor"]Mughal Emperor[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] the richest monarch in the world.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Tana Shan was taken as a prisoner and was imprisoned in the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daulatabad,_Maharashtra"]Daulatabad[/url] fort (near [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangabad_Maharashtra"]Aurangabad[/url]) where he died in prison after 12 years of captivity. When the Sultan died, he was not buried alongside his ancestors and other Qutub Shahi kings but in a modest grave at [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khuldabad"]Khuldabad[/url] near [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangabad_Maharashtra"]Aurangabad[/url].[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]With the defeat of Abul Hasan Qutub Shah, the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi"]Qutb Shahi[/url] dynasty ended and a new [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizam"]Nizam[/url] dynasty began in Hyderabad under the control of the Mughal Dynasty.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]After the fall of Golconda on September 22, 1687, it became a part of the six Mughal provinces in the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url]. Mahabat Khan, who was initially the commander of the Qutb Shahi army and had switched loyalty to the Mughals, was appointed the governor of Golconda, laying the foundations for the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad_State"]Hyderabad State[/url] under the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizams"]Nizams[/url] by Aurangzeb.[/size][/color]

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Bhagmati

Bhagamati[color="#252525"][size="4"] was the Hindu wife of Muslim sultan [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"]. Qutb Shah was the fifth sultan of the erstwhile[/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_Dynasty"]Qutb Shahi Dynasty[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] who ruled over the [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] region of [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_India"]South India[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] in the 16th century.[/size][/color]

Early Life

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Bhagmati was born in Chichlam (around Yakutpura) in a Hindu family.[/size][/color]

Marriage

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah married Bhagamati in the year 1589 CE and remained with her until his death in 1611 CE. The sultan bestowed the title of Hyder Mahal on Bhagmati. Quli Qutub Shah and Hyder Mahal had a daughter named Hayat Baksh Begum, who was married to Qutub Shah's nephew Muhammed Quli. Sultan Muhammed Quli succeeded the throne soon after the death of Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah.[/size][/color]

City of Hyderabad

[color="#252525"][size="4"][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url] built a city named Bhaganagar in 1591 CE, to honor his love for Bhagmati. The city was built on the site of Chichlam, the native village of his wife, located 10 miles from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda_Fort"]Golconda Fort[/url] on the southern banks of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musi_River_(India)"]Musi river[/url]. Qutb Shah renamed the city as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url] in memory of his wife's later name Hyder Mahal.[/size][/color]

Death[size="2"] [/size]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Bhagmati died in 1611 CE. Mir Momin, the Peshwa (prime minister) of Mohammed Quli did not appreciate the closeness between the Sultan and Bhagmati. Therefore, he decided to ensure that Bhagmati's character is driven out of contemporary history. So much so that she did not even have a tomb built over her last remains.[/size][/color]

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Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah (also [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliterated"]transliterated[/url] in different ways) ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url]: ÃÂ¬Ãâ¦ÃÂ´ÃÅÃÂ¯ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ ) was the second ruler of the Sultanate of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url] under the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url]. He ruled from 1543 to 1550.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]His father, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Quli_Qutb-ul-Mulk"]Sultan Quli Qutb-ul-Mulk[/url], had established the dynasty and had become the first [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim"]Muslim[/url] to rule over the entire [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_people"]Telugu[/url] region. In 1543, Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah assassinated his father, blinded his older brother, the heir to the throne, and forced his other brother, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutub_Shah"]Ibrahim Quli[/url] to flee to[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijayanagara"]Vijayanagar[/url]. Following his father's death, he did not proclaim himself sultan, but forced local chiefs to accept his suzerainty, while gaining some forts from the Baridis.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Little is known of Jamsheed's reign, but he is remembered as having been cruel. He died in 1550 from cancer.[/size][/color]

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Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah

Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[color="#252525"][size="4"] (1580Ã¢â¬â1612 CE) ([/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu_language"]Urdu[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"]: [/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"][size="5"]Ãâ¦ÃÂÃâ¦ÃÂ¯ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ[/size][/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"]Ã¢â¬Å½) was the fifth sultan of the [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] of [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] and founded the city of[/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"], in South-central [/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"] and built its architectural centerpiece, the[/size][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Charminar[/url][color="#252525"][size="4"]. He was an able administrator and his reign is considered one of the high points of the Qutb Shahi dynasty. Hyderabad was named after his beloved wife Bhagamati, who was bestowed the title Hyder Mahal by the sultan.[/size][/color][color="#252525"][size="4"] He ascended to the throne in 1580 at the age of 15 and ruled for 31 years.[/size][/color]

Birth and early life

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah was the third son of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli Qutb Shah Wali[/url]. He was an accomplished poet and wrote his poetry in Persian, Telugu and Urdu. As the first author in the Urdu language he composed his verses in the Persian diwan style, and his poems consisted of verses relating to a single topic, gazal-i musalsal. Muhammad Quli's Kulliyat comprised 1800 pages, over half were gazals, qasidas on one hundred pages, while the rest contained over 300 pages of matnawi and martiyas.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"][size="2"][center][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Charminar-Pride_of_Hyderabad.jpg"][/url][size="3"][left][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Charminar-Pride_of_Hyderabad.jpg"][/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Charminar[/url] in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url] was built by Quli Qutub Shah[/left][/size][/center][/size][/size][/color]

City of Hyderabad

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Hyderabad was built on the southern bank of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musi_River_(India)"]Musi River[/url] in 1591. Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah called architects from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran"]Iran[/url] to lay out the city, which was built on a grid plan. Quli Qutb Shah built a city named Bhaganagar in 1591 CE, to honor his love for [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagmati"]Bhagmati[/url]. The city was built on the site of Chichlam, the native village of his wife, located 10 miles from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda_Fort"]Golconda Fort[/url] on the southern banks of the Musi Rver. Qutb Shah renamed the city as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url] in memory of his wife's later name Hyder Mahal. There is another theory which states that Hyderabad was named as the City of Hyder (Brave) after the title of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali"]Fourth Caliph Ali[/url]. Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah also constructed the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Charminar[/url], the most recognizable symbol of Hyderabad.[/size][/color]

Patronage of literature

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Quli Qutb Shah was a scholar of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language"]Arabic[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language"]Persian[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language"]Telugu[/url] languages. He wrote[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry"]poetry[/url] in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url], Persian, and Telugu. His poetry has been compiled into a volume entitled "Kulliyat-e-Quli Qutub Shah." Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah had the distinction of being the first Saheb-e-dewan Urdu poet and is credited with introducing a new sensibility into prevailing genres of Persian/Urdu poetry.[/size][/color]

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Ibrahim Quli Qutb Shah Wali

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Ibrahim Qutb Shah Wali (1518-1580) ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url]: ÃÂ§ÃÂ¨ÃÂ±ÃÂ§ÃÂ¾ÃÅÃâ¦ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ) was the third ruler of the kingdom of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url] in southern [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url]. He was the first of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url] to use the title "Sultan". He ruled from 1550 to 1580.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]Ibrahim's brother, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah[/url], killed their own father and blinded their eldest brother, taking the throne in 1543. Ibrahim ran away and lived in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile"]exile[/url] as an honored guest of the powerful [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch"]patriarch[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijayanagara"]Vijayanagara[/url],[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliya_Rama_Raya"]Aliya Rama Raya[/url]. There, he developed a love for the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language"]Telugu language[/url], which he [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patron"]patronized[/url] and encouraged during his [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign"]reign[/url]. Ibrahim employed Hindus for administrative, diplomatic and military purposes within his sultanate.[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]When Jamsheed and a little later Jamsheed's infant son [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhan_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Subhan[/url] throned, Ibrahim returned to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url] and took the throne. Following the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Talikota"]battle of Talikota[/url] in 1565, Ibrahim was able to take the hill forts of Adoni and Udayagiri. [sup] [/sup]A patron of the arts, Ibrahim sponsored many court poets, such as[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Singanacharyudu&action=edit&redlink=1"]Singanacharyudu[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Addanki_Gangadharudu&action=edit&redlink=1"]Addanki Gangadharudu[/url], and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kandukuru_Rudrakavi&action=edit&redlink=1"]Kandukuru Rudrakavi[/url]. There were Telugu poets, in a break from tradition, as well as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab"]Arabic[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire"]Persian[/url] poets in his court. He is also known in Telugu literature as, Malki Bharama. He took keen interest in the welfare of his people. He also repaired and fortified [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort"]Fort[/url]and developed the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussain_Sagar"]Hussain Sagar[/url] lake and Ibrahim Bagh. He is described in one of the inscriptions on the "Makki Darwaza" in the fort as "The Greatest of Sovereigns".[/size][/color]

[color="#252525"][size="4"]After a short illness Ibrahim died in 1580.[/size][/color]

Ibrahim Quli Qutb Shah WaliThe Fourth [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan"]Sultan[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url]Reign1550Ã¢â¬â1580Born1518Died5 June 1580Predecessor[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhan_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Subhan Quli Qutb Shah[/url]Successor[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url]Royal House[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire"]Mughal India[/url]

(now in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh"]Andhra Pradesh[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url])[color="#252525"] [/color]

Handsome heathens

Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:31:43 +0000

This thread is not about anything important.

After having my senses assaulted by witnessing 5 entire seconds of bollywho crap** (sue!), I discovered that the only means of recovery is to look at pictures of Handsome Heathens, which is an adjective traditionally used for both males and females.

** I suppose I should be grateful that at least I wasn't exposed to freakishly horrendous entities like Sagarika Ghose, but still, I barely survived.

Since I figured it possible that other visitors may suffer from similar torment on exposure to hideous christo-islami-secular faces on TV and the internet - and there really should be a ban on images of ugly people on the internet and tv, it's just not decent - I thought I'd start this thread.

Although my present intention is to post pictures of beautiful/handsome Hindoos if and whenever I feel like it and remember to, it may happen that at some point I start pasting pictures of beautiful/handsome Taiwanese/Chinese/Japanese/other heathens also.

It's not an Illegally-Ogling thread: these are officially snapped pictures. Meaning: I didn't take these pictures.

Nevertheless there is nothing wrong with staring at kallai heathens just as there is nothing wrong in staring at cuddly animals (<- that last is something all Hindoos are guilty of, no use denying it. E.g. [color="#0000FF"]attackofthecute.com[/color]).

Pictures can be of either gender, all ages and species: babies to elderly, male or female, human or other animal. The only condition is that they be heathen. (All other animal species are automatically classified as heathens.)

Initially I was going to paste two pics: one of a terribly kallai Tamizh Hindoo - not to mention he's a supremely talented 2D artist of sacred Hindoo imagery (he's the famous shiShya of my very famous relative-by-marriage) and also one of another famous elderly kallai TN Hindoo who also makes sacred 2D imagery, both of whom wear the sacred Hindoo markings, but I thought that would give away some of the people I'm a big fan of. They're *my* heroes and I hate sharing, especially heroes.

Instead, here's some pictures of handsome young Hindoo men from TN:

Grrr. If my hair ever did something crazy like that, it would look laughable at best or just downright-scary. But how come he (Hindoo on the right) still looks good? Indeed it seems to even suit him... :disturbing: Is this fair, I ask you?

If the camera wasn't taking a picture, I predict the two in the image would have plotted to hug their beloved Ganapati. I know how Hindoos think. They're restraining themselves for the picture.

Though it's not very clear, from the original print in my possession, the tiny second picture above is filled with these and more kallai faces yet again, most of which bear Hindoo markings (being Hindoos).

Oh great smile in that last. Love it.

And note how they all have the typically Awesome - capital A - cheekbones and jaws, all round perfect bone structure - perfect Hindoo genetics. Unique to the Hindoo subcontinent. And lovely thick eyebrows. Attractive and individual skintones. Great teeth. (Though teeth are frustrating as they're hard to draw.)

So endearingly kallai. I could stare at Hindoos forever.

But I must say that Hindoo men are possibly The Most Annoying in that they always have luscious, thick, long eyelashes that Maybelline ads would kill for (beat that Maybelline) - and so, coupled with their great facial bone structure, they look thoroughly masculine and dashing.

Sigh. I'm so going to lose if I tried "Mirror, Mirror" just now. I must tell myself repeatedly that this is not a competition. ("This is not a competition. This is not a competition." Not working...)

I know from personal experience that TN and KN are full of such handsome Hindoo men. Such faces don't exist anywhere outside of the Hindoo subcontinent and its settlements in SE Asia. And such kallai faces are not wasted on me, since I have the ability to value them. (Possessing a keen Eye For Beauty, and all. Not everyone has that, I have learnt. I'll Mirror Mirror on that and prove my indisputable overlordship that way.)

And while Hindoos don't have anyone who looks like Donar - whereas a Norwegian and a Dutch young man looked to me like what I imagine Thor must look like (and very kallai they were) - no one else but the Hindoos have anyone who remind one of the Hindoo Gods and Goddesses.* So Woo Woo.

Just like none but the E Asians have any humans who look like *their* Gods and Amman-s.

All the really ugly people are visibly represented in bollywho/christomedia. Maybe bollywho is an ultra-regressive form of "positive discrimination": since ugly people are a minority in India (correlating with alien religious "minorities", I notice), maybe bollywho - being by and for the ugly minority - took pity on their kind and decided to boost their confidence by featuring their insipid, ugly and samey-looking faces everywhere?

Honestly, I can tell every E Asian actor's and individual's face from every other E Asian face that I've ever seen, but most modern Indian actresses and actors look the same to me. It is worrying when you can't even tell people who are allegedly of your own nationality apart. (Although I have no problems distinguishing regular natives, so it's not me but bollywho/christo-news).

The entirely false impression that christo news media and bollywho give - and which is where all the representatives of the ugliest seem to congregate - is that Indians have a small phenotypical diversity and are all ugly.

In reality the Hindoo natives - like E and SE Asian heathens - look extremely kallai and don't look the same at all.

Post summary: see the pictures in this post.

Do u know about pigment printing?

Sat, 31 May 2014 11:20:52 +0000

A pigment is a mixture of dye and an opacifying agent, such as white oxide powders. Advantage of pigment printing is flexibility to apply on natural and synthetic fibers. Pigment colors are more popular because the process is simple, new vibrant color combinations are evolved with the mixing of two or three colours. Pigments are used in block printing process of various fabrics like pure cotton, pure silk, chiffon, crepe, georgette and supernet. Pigment printed sarees are highly fashionable and in demand today.

Pigment printing is the affixing of coloured designs using pigment colorants onto various fabrics, through block printing. It is comparatively much easier than the elaborate process of dye printing. A pigment is a material or substance that tends to reflect or scatter some or most wavelengths of the light incident on it. The resulting reflected light is perceived by the human eye as a colour. A fine example is ultramarine that absorbs most colours and reflects only the blue colour that we see.

Pigments generally exist as powders of the colorants meant to colour other materials. A binder or vehicle has to accompany it before applying. A vehicle is a colour less neutral substance in which the pigment is suspended. The essential difference between a dye and a pigment is that a dye dissolves in the vehicle while the pigment is insoluble and remains suspended in it.

Christoislamaniacs cannibalising each other and themselves

Mon, 12 May 2014 14:19:35 +0000

Couldn't decide on which thread title was most fitting.

Topics:

- Christoislamaniacs murdering each other off and terrorising each other (not that I care. Rather they kill each other than either of them killing heathens)

- Anyone else who beats down christoislamania. E.g. Chinese crackdown on islamania

- How the christowest's conversion of heathen nations makes them 3rd worlds with 3rd world mentalities. All "ethnic" christists are laughed at as more retarded than even the most dimwitted and illiterate western christist. Conversion of Asia and Africa is regarded by the west as a way to manufacture a permanent 3rd world in Asia and Africa and never have competition: christowest knows full well that a converted Asia and Africa will never amount to anything (let alone competition).

To start, reposting from the christianism thread:

sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/04/22/un-evacuates-100-muslims-car

Quote:22 Apr 2014 - 12:12pm

UN evacuates 100 Muslims from CAR

The UN has evacuated 93 Muslims from the capital of the crisis-torn Central African Republic to protect them from Christian vigilante groups. Source AAP

UPDATED 12:14 PM - 22 Apr 2014.

[color="#0000FF"]The United Nations has evacuated almost 100 Muslims from the capital of the crisis-torn Central African Republic to "save their lives", officials say.[/color]

Supported by staff from the UN's refugee agency, 93 Muslims were transported east from Bangui to the town of Bambari, says El Hadj Abacar ben Ousmane, senior official in the town about 300km from the capital.

[color="#0000FF"]Sectarian violence in the former French colony has killed thousands in the past year.[/color]

The Muslim group travelled to Bambari from Sunday through to Monday in two trucks, accompanied by a convoy of vehicles from the French peacekeeping force Sangaris, the UNHCR refugee agency and the International Organisation for Migration.

The convoy was pelted with stones as it passed through the town of Sibut, a member of the African-led MISCA peacekeeping force told AFP.

[color="#0000FF"]"This is a measure to save their lives,[/color] taken as a last resort after a long time considering their case," said Tammi Sharpe, deputy head of the UNHCR in the Central Africa Republic.

[color="#0000FF"]She said the evacuated Muslims had been "constantly attacked" in their northern Bangui neighbourhood of PK 12, where conditions at the moment are "particularly tense".[/color]

In Bambari, a Christian-majority town of 45,000 people, El Hadj Abacar ben Ousmane said Muslims and Christians could live in "harmony".

"We would have no objection to welcoming others," he said. "We have no problems with each other."

The Central African Republic, one of the poorest countries in the world, plunged into a crisis after a coup by the mostly Muslim Seleka rebels in March last year.

After seizing power, some rebels went rogue and embarked on a campaign of killing, raping and looting.

[color="#800080"](This is obviously alleged. Poor innocent islamaniac jihadi terrorists have obviously been framed! As also frequently happens in Pakistan, where poor islamaniacs get blamed for christians killing themselves bloodily.)[/color]

The abuses prompted members of [color="#FF0000"]the Christian majority to form vigilante groups, unleashing brutal tit-for-tat killings - leaving thousands dead, close to a million displaced and warnings the country is on the brink of genocide.[/color]

Uncomfortable topics (e.g. Doniger type tackiness, etc)

Tue, 25 Mar 2014 05:13:21 +0000

As the title says, I'm justifying the creation of yet another thread with the fact that tacky or otherwise unpleasant/uncomfortable stuff can go here. That way, people won't accidentally catch sight of such stuff if they would prefer not to, as they'd need to click on the link first.