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			<description><![CDATA[[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The [/size]</span>[/color]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Qutb Shahi dynasty</span>[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] ([/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language"]Persian[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]: [/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]ÃÂ³ÃâÃÂ·Ãâ ÃÂª ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§Ãâ¡ÃÅ[/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Ã¢â¬Å½) was a [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia"]Shia[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> </span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim"]Muslim[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkman_people"]Turkman[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] dynasty of [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Koyunlu"]Kara Koyunlu[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] origin that initially patronized[/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persianate"]Persianate[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] culture. Its members were collectively called the [/size]</span>[/color]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Qutub Shahis</span>[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] and were the ruling family of the kingdom of [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] in modern-day [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh"]Andhra Pradesh[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"], [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]. The Golconda sultanate was constantly in conflict with the Adil Shahis and Nizam Shahis.[/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] In 1636, [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Jahan"]Shah Jahan[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]forced the Qutb Shahis to recognize Mughal suzerainty,[/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] which lasted until 1687 when the Mughal emperor [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] conquered the Golcondan sultanate.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"][size="2"][center][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Golkonda_curtain.jpg"]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/51/Golkonda_curtain.jpg/175px-Golkonda_curtain.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 175px-Golkonda_curtain.jpg]" class="mycode_img" />[/url][size="3"][left][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Golkonda_curtain.jpg"]<img src="http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.24wmf5/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: magnify-clip.png]" class="mycode_img" />[/url]Section of a Tent Hanging or Curtain, Golconda, late 17th century.[/left][/size][/center][/size][/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The dynasty's founder, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Quli_Qutb-ul-Mulk"]Sultan Quli Qutb-ul-Mulk[/url], migrated to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi"]Delhi[/url] with his uncle, Allah-Quli, some of his relatives and friends in the beginning of the 16th century. Later he migrated south, to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url] and served the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahmani_Sultanate"]Bahmani sultan[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Shah"]Mohammad Shah[/url]. He conquered Golconda, after the disintegration of the Bahmani Kingdom into the five [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_sultanates"]Deccan sultanates[/url]. Soon after, he declared independence from the Bahmani Sultanate, took the title <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Qutub Shah</span>, and established the Qutb Shahi dynasty of Golconda. He was later assassinated in 1543 by his son, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Jamsheed[/url], who assumed the sultanate. He later died in 1550 from cancer. Jamsheed's young son reigned for a year, at which time the nobility brought back and installed Ibrahim Quli as sultan. During the reign of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url], relations between Hindus and Muslims were strengthened, even to the point of Hindus resuming their religious festivals like [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diwali"]Diwali[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holi"]Holi[/url]. Some Hindus rose to prominence in the Qutb Shahi state, the most important example being the ministers[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madanna_and_Akkanna"]Madanna and Akkanna[/url].[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Golconda, and with the construction of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Char Minar[/url], later [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url] served as capitals of the sultanate, and both cities were embellished by the Qutb Shahi sultans. The dynasty ruled Golconda for 171 years, until the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire"]Mughal[/url] emperor [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] conquered the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url]in 1687.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The Qutub Shahi rulers were great builders, which included the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Char Minar[/url], as well as[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patron"]patrons[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning"]learning[/url]. Quli Qutb Mulk's court became a haven for Persian culture and literature. Sultan [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url](1580Ã¢â¬â1612) wrote poems in Dakhini Urdu, Persian and Telugu and left a huge poetry collection. Subsequent poets and writers, however wrote in Urdu, while using vocabulary from Persian, Hindi and Telugu languages. By 1535, the Qutub Shahis were using Telugu for their revenue and judicial areas within the sultanate.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Initially, the Qutub Shahi rulers patronized [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persianate"]Persianate[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture"]culture[/url], but eventually adopted the regional culture of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url], symbolized by the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language"]Telugu language[/url] and the newly developed [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakhni"]Deccani idiom[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url] became prominent. Although Telugu was not their mother tongue, the Golconda rulers spoke and wrote Telugu, and patronized Telugu so exclusively they were termed the "<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Telugu Sultans</span>". In 1543, fearing for his life, Prince [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli[/url] fled to the Vijayanagaran court, which lavishly patronized the Telugu language. Upon his enthronement as sultan in 1550, Ibrahim Quli was thoroughly acquainted with Telugu aesthetics.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The Qutb Shahi architecture was Indo-Persian, a culmination of Hindu, Moorish, Mughal and Persian architectural styles.[/size]<span style="font-size: 2pt;" class="mycode_size"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"> </span></span>[size="4"]Some examples of Golcondan Indo-Persian architecture are the Golconda Fort, [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_Tombs"]tombs of the Qutb Shahis[/url][size="4"], [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Minar"]Char Minar[/url][size="4"] and the [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Kaman"]Char Kaman[/url][size="4"], [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca_Masjid"]Mecca Masjid[/url][size="4"] and the [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toli_Masjid"]Toli mosque[/url][size="4"].[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The Qutub Shahis patronized Shia Islam and at Friday sermons had the names of the Twelve Imams and the Safavids read aloud, however, this ended in 1636 when the Shah Jahan gained suzerainty over the Golcondan sultanate. Although they were [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia"]Shias[/url], Sunni Islam and Hinduism were also tolerated. As such, the culture of the Qutb Shahi dynasty has been considered a "composite" of Hindu-Moslem religio-social culture.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The seven [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan"]sultans[/url] in the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty"]dynasty[/url] were:[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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<ul class="mycode_list"><li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Quli_Qutb-ul-Mulk"]Sultan Quli Qutb-ul-Mulk[/url] (1518Ã¢â¬â1543)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1543Ã¢â¬â1550)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhan_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Subhan Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1550)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1550Ã¢â¬â1580)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1580Ã¢â¬â1612)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah"]Sultan Muhammad Qutb Shah[/url] (1612Ã¢â¬â1626)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Qutb_Shah"]Abdullah Qutb Shah[/url] (1626Ã¢â¬â1672)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah"]Abul Hasan Qutb Shah[/url] (1672Ã¢â¬â1689)</li>
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"][size="2"][center][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Finch,_Poppies,_Dragonfly,_and_Bee_India_(Deccan,_Golconda).jpg"]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Finch%2C_Poppies%2C_Dragonfly%2C_and_Bee_India_%28Deccan%2C_Golconda%29.jpg/220px-Finch%2C_Poppies%2C_Dragonfly%2C_and_Bee_India_%28Deccan%2C_Golconda%29.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 220px-Finch%2C_Poppies%2C_Dragonfly%2C_a...nda%29.jpg]" class="mycode_img" />[/url][size="3"][left][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Finch,_Poppies,_Dragonfly,_and_Bee_India_(Deccan,_Golconda).jpg"]<img src="http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.24wmf5/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: magnify-clip.png]" class="mycode_img" />[/url]Golkonda Painting - Finch, Poppies, Dragonfly, and Bee India (Deccan, Golconda), 1650-1670 Opaque watercolor and gold on paper Overall[/left][/size][/center][/size][/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"][size="2"][center][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tomb_of_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah_in_Hyderabad_W_IMG_4636.jpg"]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Tomb_of_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah_in_Hyderabad_W_IMG_4636.jpg/200px-Tomb_of_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah_in_Hyderabad_W_IMG_4636.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 200px-Tomb_of_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah_in_Hyde...G_4636.jpg]" class="mycode_img" />[/url][size="3"][left][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tomb_of_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah_in_Hyderabad_W_IMG_4636.jpg"]<img src="http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.24wmf5/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: magnify-clip.png]" class="mycode_img" />[/url]Tomb of Muhammad Qutb Shah in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad, India[/url].[/left][/size][/center][/size][/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_Tombs"]tombs of the Qutb Shahi sultans[/url] lie about one kilometer north of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda's[/url]outer wall. These structures are made of beautifully carved stonework, and surrounded by landscaped gardens. They are open to the public and receive many visitors.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"][size="2"][center][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Govardhan_II,_Visit_of_sufi-singer_Shir_Muhammad_to_Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah,_ca._1720,_Biblioth%C3%A8que_nationale_de_France,_Paris.jpg"]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Govardhan_II%2C_Visit_of_sufi-singer_Shir_Muhammad_to_Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah%2C_ca._1720%2C_Biblioth%C3%A8que_nationale_de_France%2C_Paris.jpg/210px-Govardhan_II%2C_Visit_of_sufi-singer_Shir_Muhammad_to_Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah%2C_ca._1720%2C_Biblioth%C3%A8que_nationale_de_France%2C_Paris.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 210px-Govardhan_II%2C_Visit_of_sufi-sing..._Paris.jpg]" class="mycode_img" />[/url][size="3"][left][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Govardhan_II,_Visit_of_sufi-singer_Shir_Muhammad_to_Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah,_ca._1720,_Biblioth%C3%A8que_nationale_de_France,_Paris.jpg"]<img src="http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.24wmf4/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: magnify-clip.png]" class="mycode_img" />[/url]Visit of Sufi-singer Shir Muhammad to Abul Hasan Qutb Shah, ca. 1720, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_nationale_de_France"]BibliothÃÂ¨que nationale de France[/url], Paris.[/left][/size][/center][/size][/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]His real name was Abul Hasan and nicknamed as 'Tana Shah' even before he was contender to the throne of Golconda by his teacher, a Sufi saint called Hazrat Syed Shah Raziuddin, popularly known as Hazrat Shah Raju Qattal. Hazrat Shah Raju was eighth in the lineage of the Sufi saint Hazrat Syedna Khwaja Banda Nawaz [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesu_daraz"]Gesu daraz[/url]of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulbarga"]Gulbarga[/url]. Abul Hassan had a good voice and sang well. He also had a certain innocence about him. Shah Raju, therefore, gave him the nickname of `Tana Shah' which means a child saint.[/size][size="4"] He was also known as [/size]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Tani Shah</span>[size="4"], meaning "benevolent ruler".[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]He is remembered as a popular statesman who did not discriminate against those of another ethnicity or religion. He hired [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmin"]Brahmins[/url] as his ministers and generals. For example [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madanna_and_Akkanna"]Madanna and Akkanna[/url], Brahmin brothers from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanamkonda"]Hanamkonda[/url], were his most important ministers. Tana Shah gained a place in Telugu literature due to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kancharla_Gopanna"]Kancharla Gopanna[/url], nephew of Madanna. Kancharla Gopanna is famously known as "Ramadasu". Ramadasu lived in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelakondapalli"]Nelakondapalli[/url] village in Palvancha taluk. Tani Shah hired him as "[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehsildar"]Tehsildar[/url]" (head of the revenue department) of Palvancha taluk. Ramadasu diverted the public funds to construct a Rama temple in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhadrachalam"]Bhadrachalam[/url] and for the jewelry for the idols of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama"]Rama[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sita"]Sita[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshmana"]Lakshmana[/url]. Tana Shah found Ramadasu guilty of misappropriation of public funds and put him in jail.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Earlier Tana Shah's father-in-law [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Qutb_Shah"]Abdullah Qutb Shah[/url] was forced by [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] to acknowledge the suzerainty of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Jahan"]Shah Jahan[/url]. And his daughter was wed to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url]'s son Sultan Muhammad.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]About the year 1683, Abul Hasan Qutb Shah appears to have become irregular in payments of taxes to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughals"]Mughals[/url] and his relations with [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikandar_Adil_Shah"]Sikandar Adil Shah[/url] also caused concern among the Mughals. Abul Hasan Qutb Shah consequently refused to be a vassal of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire"]Mughal Empire[/url] and prompted [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] to initiate a campaign to assert the rule of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughals"]Mughals[/url] on[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url]. He attacked Golconda. With his able commanders Nawab Khwaja Abid Siddiqi (Qilich Khan) and Qaziuddin Khan Siddiqi father and grand father of Nizam I (Asaf Jah I). Tana Shah defended the fort for eight months, but Aurangazeb succeeded in capturing Golconda at the end in September 1687. Abul Hasan Qutb Shah surrendered and handed over the[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur-Ul-Ain_Diamond"]Nur-Ul-Ain Diamond[/url], the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Diamond"]Hope Diamond[/url], the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittelsbach_Diamond"]Wittelsbach Diamond[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Regent_Diamond"]the Regent Diamond[/url], making the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Emperor"]Mughal Emperor[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] the richest monarch in the world.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Bhagamati</span>[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] was the Hindu wife of Muslim sultan [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]. Qutb Shah was the fifth sultan of the erstwhile[/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_Dynasty"]Qutb Shahi Dynasty[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] who ruled over the [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] region of [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_India"]South India[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] in the 16th century.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah married Bhagamati in the year 1589 CE and remained with her until his death in 1611 CE. The sultan bestowed the title of Hyder Mahal on Bhagmati. Quli Qutub Shah and Hyder Mahal had a daughter named Hayat Baksh Begum, who was married to Qutub Shah's nephew Muhammed Quli. Sultan Muhammed Quli succeeded the throne soon after the death of Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Bhagmati died in 1611 CE. Mir Momin, the Peshwa (prime minister) of Mohammed Quli did not appreciate the closeness between the Sultan and Bhagmati. Therefore, he decided to ensure that Bhagmati's character is driven out of contemporary history. So much so that she did not even have a tomb built over her last remains.[/size]</span>[/color]</span><br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah</span> (also [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliterated"]transliterated[/url] in different ways) ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url]: ÃÂ¬Ãâ¦ÃÂ´ÃÅÃÂ¯ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ ) was the second ruler of the Sultanate of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url] under the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url]. He ruled from 1543 to 1550.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah</span>[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] (1580Ã¢â¬â1612 CE) ([/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu_language"]Urdu[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]: [/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"][size="5"]Ãâ¦ÃÂ­Ãâ¦ÃÂ¯ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ[/size][/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Ã¢â¬Å½) was the fifth sultan of the [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] of [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] and founded the city of[/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"], in South-central [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] and built its architectural centerpiece, the[/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Charminar[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]. He was an able administrator and his reign is considered one of the high points of the Qutb Shahi dynasty. Hyderabad was named after his beloved wife Bhagamati, who was bestowed the title Hyder Mahal by the sultan.[/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] He ascended to the throne in 1580 at the age of 15 and ruled for 31 years.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah was the third son of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli Qutb Shah Wali[/url]. He was an accomplished poet and wrote his poetry in Persian, Telugu and Urdu. As the first author in the Urdu language he composed his verses in the Persian <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">diwan</span> style, and his poems consisted of verses relating to a single topic, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">gazal-i musalsal</span>. Muhammad Quli's <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Kulliyat</span> comprised 1800 pages, over half were <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">gazals</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">qasidas</span> on one hundred pages, while the rest contained over 300 pages of <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">matnawi</span> and <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">martiyas</span>.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Hyderabad was built on the southern bank of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musi_River_(India)"]Musi River[/url] in 1591. Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah called architects from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran"]Iran[/url] to lay out the city, which was built on a grid plan. Quli Qutb Shah built a city named Bhaganagar in 1591 CE, to honor his love for [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagmati"]Bhagmati[/url]. The city was built on the site of Chichlam, the native village of his wife, located 10 miles from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda_Fort"]Golconda Fort[/url] on the southern banks of the Musi Rver. Qutb Shah renamed the city as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url] in memory of his wife's later name Hyder Mahal. There is another theory which states that Hyderabad was named as the City of Hyder (Brave) after the title of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali"]Fourth Caliph Ali[/url]. Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah also constructed the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Charminar[/url], the most recognizable symbol of Hyderabad.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Quli Qutb Shah was a scholar of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language"]Arabic[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language"]Persian[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language"]Telugu[/url] languages. He wrote[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry"]poetry[/url] in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url], Persian, and Telugu. His poetry has been compiled into a volume entitled "Kulliyat-e-Quli Qutub Shah." Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah had the distinction of being the first <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Saheb-e-dewan</span> Urdu poet and is credited with introducing a new sensibility into prevailing genres of Persian/Urdu poetry.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ibrahim Qutb Shah Wali</span> (1518-1580) ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url]: ÃÂ§ÃÂ¨ÃÂ±ÃÂ§ÃÂ¾ÃÅÃâ¦ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ) was the third ruler of the kingdom of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url] in southern [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url]. He was the first of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url] to use the title "<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Sultan</span>". He ruled from 1550 to 1580.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The [/size]</span>[/color]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Qutb Shahi dynasty</span>[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] ([/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language"]Persian[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]: [/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]ÃÂ³ÃâÃÂ·Ãâ ÃÂª ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§Ãâ¡ÃÅ[/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Ã¢â¬Å½) was a [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia"]Shia[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> </span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim"]Muslim[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkman_people"]Turkman[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] dynasty of [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Koyunlu"]Kara Koyunlu[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] origin that initially patronized[/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persianate"]Persianate[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] culture. Its members were collectively called the [/size]</span>[/color]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Qutub Shahis</span>[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] and were the ruling family of the kingdom of [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] in modern-day [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh"]Andhra Pradesh[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"], [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]. The Golconda sultanate was constantly in conflict with the Adil Shahis and Nizam Shahis.[/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] In 1636, [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Jahan"]Shah Jahan[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]forced the Qutb Shahis to recognize Mughal suzerainty,[/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] which lasted until 1687 when the Mughal emperor [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] conquered the Golcondan sultanate.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"][size="2"][center][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Golkonda_curtain.jpg"]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/51/Golkonda_curtain.jpg/175px-Golkonda_curtain.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 175px-Golkonda_curtain.jpg]" class="mycode_img" />[/url][size="3"][left][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Golkonda_curtain.jpg"]<img src="http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.24wmf5/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: magnify-clip.png]" class="mycode_img" />[/url]Section of a Tent Hanging or Curtain, Golconda, late 17th century.[/left][/size][/center][/size][/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The dynasty's founder, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Quli_Qutb-ul-Mulk"]Sultan Quli Qutb-ul-Mulk[/url], migrated to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi"]Delhi[/url] with his uncle, Allah-Quli, some of his relatives and friends in the beginning of the 16th century. Later he migrated south, to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url] and served the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahmani_Sultanate"]Bahmani sultan[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Shah"]Mohammad Shah[/url]. He conquered Golconda, after the disintegration of the Bahmani Kingdom into the five [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_sultanates"]Deccan sultanates[/url]. Soon after, he declared independence from the Bahmani Sultanate, took the title <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Qutub Shah</span>, and established the Qutb Shahi dynasty of Golconda. He was later assassinated in 1543 by his son, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Jamsheed[/url], who assumed the sultanate. He later died in 1550 from cancer. Jamsheed's young son reigned for a year, at which time the nobility brought back and installed Ibrahim Quli as sultan. During the reign of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url], relations between Hindus and Muslims were strengthened, even to the point of Hindus resuming their religious festivals like [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diwali"]Diwali[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holi"]Holi[/url]. Some Hindus rose to prominence in the Qutb Shahi state, the most important example being the ministers[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madanna_and_Akkanna"]Madanna and Akkanna[/url].[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The Qutub Shahi rulers were great builders, which included the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Char Minar[/url], as well as[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patron"]patrons[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning"]learning[/url]. Quli Qutb Mulk's court became a haven for Persian culture and literature. Sultan [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url](1580Ã¢â¬â1612) wrote poems in Dakhini Urdu, Persian and Telugu and left a huge poetry collection. Subsequent poets and writers, however wrote in Urdu, while using vocabulary from Persian, Hindi and Telugu languages. By 1535, the Qutub Shahis were using Telugu for their revenue and judicial areas within the sultanate.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Initially, the Qutub Shahi rulers patronized [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persianate"]Persianate[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture"]culture[/url], but eventually adopted the regional culture of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan"]Deccan[/url], symbolized by the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language"]Telugu language[/url] and the newly developed [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakhni"]Deccani idiom[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url] became prominent. Although Telugu was not their mother tongue, the Golconda rulers spoke and wrote Telugu, and patronized Telugu so exclusively they were termed the "<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Telugu Sultans</span>". In 1543, fearing for his life, Prince [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli[/url] fled to the Vijayanagaran court, which lavishly patronized the Telugu language. Upon his enthronement as sultan in 1550, Ibrahim Quli was thoroughly acquainted with Telugu aesthetics.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]The Qutb Shahi architecture was Indo-Persian, a culmination of Hindu, Moorish, Mughal and Persian architectural styles.[/size]<span style="font-size: 2pt;" class="mycode_size"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"> </span></span>[size="4"]Some examples of Golcondan Indo-Persian architecture are the Golconda Fort, [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_Tombs"]tombs of the Qutb Shahis[/url][size="4"], [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Minar"]Char Minar[/url][size="4"] and the [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Kaman"]Char Kaman[/url][size="4"], [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca_Masjid"]Mecca Masjid[/url][size="4"] and the [/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toli_Masjid"]Toli mosque[/url][size="4"].[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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<ul class="mycode_list"><li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Quli_Qutb-ul-Mulk"]Sultan Quli Qutb-ul-Mulk[/url] (1518Ã¢â¬â1543)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1543Ã¢â¬â1550)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhan_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Subhan Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1550)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1550Ã¢â¬â1580)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url] (1580Ã¢â¬â1612)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah"]Sultan Muhammad Qutb Shah[/url] (1612Ã¢â¬â1626)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Qutb_Shah"]Abdullah Qutb Shah[/url] (1626Ã¢â¬â1672)</li>
<li>[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul_Hasan_Qutb_Shah"]Abul Hasan Qutb Shah[/url] (1672Ã¢â¬â1689)</li>
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]About the year 1683, Abul Hasan Qutb Shah appears to have become irregular in payments of taxes to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughals"]Mughals[/url] and his relations with [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikandar_Adil_Shah"]Sikandar Adil Shah[/url] also caused concern among the Mughals. Abul Hasan Qutb Shah consequently refused to be a vassal of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire"]Mughal Empire[/url] and prompted [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] to initiate a campaign to assert the rule of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughals"]Mughals[/url] on[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url]. He attacked Golconda. With his able commanders Nawab Khwaja Abid Siddiqi (Qilich Khan) and Qaziuddin Khan Siddiqi father and grand father of Nizam I (Asaf Jah I). Tana Shah defended the fort for eight months, but Aurangazeb succeeded in capturing Golconda at the end in September 1687. Abul Hasan Qutb Shah surrendered and handed over the[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur-Ul-Ain_Diamond"]Nur-Ul-Ain Diamond[/url], the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Diamond"]Hope Diamond[/url], the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittelsbach_Diamond"]Wittelsbach Diamond[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Regent_Diamond"]the Regent Diamond[/url], making the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Emperor"]Mughal Emperor[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb"]Aurangzeb[/url] the richest monarch in the world.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Bhagamati</span>[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] was the Hindu wife of Muslim sultan [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]. Qutb Shah was the fifth sultan of the erstwhile[/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_Dynasty"]Qutb Shahi Dynasty[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] who ruled over the [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] region of [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_India"]South India[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] in the 16th century.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah married Bhagamati in the year 1589 CE and remained with her until his death in 1611 CE. The sultan bestowed the title of Hyder Mahal on Bhagmati. Quli Qutub Shah and Hyder Mahal had a daughter named Hayat Baksh Begum, who was married to Qutub Shah's nephew Muhammed Quli. Sultan Muhammed Quli succeeded the throne soon after the death of Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Bhagmati died in 1611 CE. Mir Momin, the Peshwa (prime minister) of Mohammed Quli did not appreciate the closeness between the Sultan and Bhagmati. Therefore, he decided to ensure that Bhagmati's character is driven out of contemporary history. So much so that she did not even have a tomb built over her last remains.[/size]</span>[/color]</span><br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah</span> (also [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliterated"]transliterated[/url] in different ways) ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url]: ÃÂ¬Ãâ¦ÃÂ´ÃÅÃÂ¯ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ ) was the second ruler of the Sultanate of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url] under the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url]. He ruled from 1543 to 1550.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah</span>[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] (1580Ã¢â¬â1612 CE) ([/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu_language"]Urdu[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]: [/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"][size="5"]Ãâ¦ÃÂ­Ãâ¦ÃÂ¯ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ[/size][/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Ã¢â¬Å½) was the fifth sultan of the [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] of [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golkonda"]Golkonda[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] and founded the city of[/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"], in South-central [/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] and built its architectural centerpiece, the[/size]</span>[/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Charminar[/url][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]. He was an able administrator and his reign is considered one of the high points of the Qutb Shahi dynasty. Hyderabad was named after his beloved wife Bhagamati, who was bestowed the title Hyder Mahal by the sultan.[/size]</span>[/color][color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"] He ascended to the throne in 1580 at the age of 15 and ruled for 31 years.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah was the third son of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Quli_Qutb_Shah_Wali"]Ibrahim Quli Qutb Shah Wali[/url]. He was an accomplished poet and wrote his poetry in Persian, Telugu and Urdu. As the first author in the Urdu language he composed his verses in the Persian <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">diwan</span> style, and his poems consisted of verses relating to a single topic, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">gazal-i musalsal</span>. Muhammad Quli's <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Kulliyat</span> comprised 1800 pages, over half were <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">gazals</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">qasidas</span> on one hundred pages, while the rest contained over 300 pages of <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">matnawi</span> and <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">martiyas</span>.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Hyderabad was built on the southern bank of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musi_River_(India)"]Musi River[/url] in 1591. Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah called architects from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran"]Iran[/url] to lay out the city, which was built on a grid plan. Quli Qutb Shah built a city named Bhaganagar in 1591 CE, to honor his love for [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagmati"]Bhagmati[/url]. The city was built on the site of Chichlam, the native village of his wife, located 10 miles from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda_Fort"]Golconda Fort[/url] on the southern banks of the Musi Rver. Qutb Shah renamed the city as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India"]Hyderabad[/url] in memory of his wife's later name Hyder Mahal. There is another theory which states that Hyderabad was named as the City of Hyder (Brave) after the title of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali"]Fourth Caliph Ali[/url]. Muhammad Quli Qutub Shah also constructed the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charminar"]Charminar[/url], the most recognizable symbol of Hyderabad.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Quli Qutb Shah was a scholar of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language"]Arabic[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language"]Persian[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language"]Telugu[/url] languages. He wrote[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry"]poetry[/url] in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url], Persian, and Telugu. His poetry has been compiled into a volume entitled "Kulliyat-e-Quli Qutub Shah." Muhammed Quli Qutub Shah had the distinction of being the first <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Saheb-e-dewan</span> Urdu poet and is credited with introducing a new sensibility into prevailing genres of Persian/Urdu poetry.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ibrahim Qutb Shah Wali</span> (1518-1580) ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu"]Urdu[/url]: ÃÂ§ÃÂ¨ÃÂ±ÃÂ§ÃÂ¾ÃÅÃâ¦ ÃâÃâÃÅ ÃâÃÂ·ÃÂ¨ ÃÂ´ÃÂ§ÃÂ) was the third ruler of the kingdom of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url] in southern [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url]. He was the first of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutb_Shahi_dynasty"]Qutb Shahi dynasty[/url] to use the title "<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Sultan</span>". He ruled from 1550 to 1580.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]Ibrahim's brother, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Jamsheed Quli Qutb Shah[/url], killed their own father and blinded their eldest brother, taking the throne in 1543. Ibrahim ran away and lived in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile"]exile[/url] as an honored guest of the powerful [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch"]patriarch[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijayanagara"]Vijayanagara[/url],[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliya_Rama_Raya"]Aliya Rama Raya[/url]. There, he developed a love for the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language"]Telugu language[/url], which he [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patron"]patronized[/url] and encouraged during his [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign"]reign[/url]. Ibrahim employed Hindus for administrative, diplomatic and military purposes within his sultanate.[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#252525"]<span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">[size="4"]When Jamsheed and a little later Jamsheed's infant son [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhan_Quli_Qutb_Shah"]Subhan[/url] throned, Ibrahim returned to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url] and took the throne. Following the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Talikota"]battle of Talikota[/url] in 1565, Ibrahim was able to take the hill forts of Adoni and Udayagiri. [sup] [/sup]A patron of the arts, Ibrahim sponsored many court poets, such as[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Singanacharyudu&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1"]Singanacharyudu[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Addanki_Gangadharudu&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1"]Addanki Gangadharudu[/url], and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kandukuru_Rudrakavi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1"]Kandukuru Rudrakavi[/url]. There were Telugu poets, in a break from tradition, as well as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab"]Arabic[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire"]Persian[/url] poets in his court. He is also known in Telugu literature as, Malki Bharama. He took keen interest in the welfare of his people. He also repaired and fortified [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda"]Golconda[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort"]Fort[/url]and developed the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussain_Sagar"]Hussain Sagar[/url] lake and Ibrahim Bagh. He is described in one of the inscriptions on the "Makki Darwaza" in the fort as "The Greatest of Sovereigns".[/size]</span>[/color]<br />
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			<description><![CDATA[I am starting this new thread since there didnt seem to be a dedicated thread in the History forum for Vijayanagar.Also I  need help from particularly Hauma Hamidha on the Madurai sultanate and its destruction by Kamparaya in the 14th century ( the elder son of Vijayanagar emperor Bukkaraya and the future Harihara II).<br />
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To give a brief introduction about myself,I am deeply interested in presenting a true and accurate picture of our history,and recaliming it from Marxists and albinos.I author this blog which some of you have already visited : <a href="http://www.jambudveep.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">www.jambudveep.wordpress.com</a><br />
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I am currently researching on the destruction of the Madurai sultanate,the study includes military and related aspects.I have collected a lot of published material on that period,books such as Vijayanagar in Tamil country,translation of Madhuravijayam etc from various institutes in India.I am also getting the Madhuravijayam translated using Pottukuchi Subramanian Sastry's commentary (the previous translation by Prof.Thiruvenkatachari is wanting in many respects).I am right now at the stage where I am going through published inscriptions.I plan to get something concrete in a year.<br />
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Hauma Hamidha has written some very informative articles on that period of Vijayanagar history especially on Gopanarya ( Kamparaya's general and restorer of Srirangam temple) and the wars with Bahmani's in the period 1340's to 1370's.I need his help on any additional material that I can use.<br />
<br />
<br />
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I have tried comtacting him by email butthere was no response.I hopt he still browses this forum.All help will be gratefully acknowledged.<br />
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regards]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I am starting this new thread since there didnt seem to be a dedicated thread in the History forum for Vijayanagar.Also I  need help from particularly Hauma Hamidha on the Madurai sultanate and its destruction by Kamparaya in the 14th century ( the elder son of Vijayanagar emperor Bukkaraya and the future Harihara II).<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
To give a brief introduction about myself,I am deeply interested in presenting a true and accurate picture of our history,and recaliming it from Marxists and albinos.I author this blog which some of you have already visited : <a href="http://www.jambudveep.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">www.jambudveep.wordpress.com</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
I am currently researching on the destruction of the Madurai sultanate,the study includes military and related aspects.I have collected a lot of published material on that period,books such as Vijayanagar in Tamil country,translation of Madhuravijayam etc from various institutes in India.I am also getting the Madhuravijayam translated using Pottukuchi Subramanian Sastry's commentary (the previous translation by Prof.Thiruvenkatachari is wanting in many respects).I am right now at the stage where I am going through published inscriptions.I plan to get something concrete in a year.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Hauma Hamidha has written some very informative articles on that period of Vijayanagar history especially on Gopanarya ( Kamparaya's general and restorer of Srirangam temple) and the wars with Bahmani's in the period 1340's to 1370's.I need his help on any additional material that I can use.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
I have tried comtacting him by email butthere was no response.I hopt he still browses this forum.All help will be gratefully acknowledged.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
regards]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[maharna&#39;s of mewar]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[html]566  Raja Guhil[/html] <br />
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[html]734  Raja Kalbhoj(Bappa Rawal)[/html]<br />
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[html]753  Raja Khuman[/html]<br />
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[html]773  Raja Mattat[/html]<br />
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[html]793  Raja Bharatribhatt[/html]<br />
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[html]813  Raja Sinha[/html]<br />
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[html]828  Raja Khuman(II)[/html]<br />
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[html]853  Raja Mahayak[/html]<br />
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[html]1537-1572  Maharaana Udai Singh(II)[/html]<br />
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[html]1572-1597  Maharaana Pratap Singh[/html]<br />
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[html]586  Raja Bhoj[/html]<br />
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[html]626  Raja Nag[/html]<br />
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[html]646  Raja Shiaditya[/html]<br />
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[html]661  Raja Aparajit[/html]<br />
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[html]688  Raja Mahendra(II)[/html]<br />
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[html]734  Raja Kalbhoj(Bappa Rawal)[/html]<br />
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[html]753  Raja Khuman[/html]<br />
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[html]773  Raja Mattat[/html]<br />
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[html]793  Raja Bharatribhatt[/html]<br />
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[html]813  Raja Sinha[/html]<br />
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[html]828  Raja Khuman(II)[/html]<br />
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[html]853  Raja Mahayak[/html]<br />
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[html]878  Raja Khuman(III)[/html]<br />
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[html]1984-       Maharaana Mahendra Singh[/html]<br />
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			<description><![CDATA[chittorgarh, a very beautiful city with great history . Traditions which almost sounds legendry ascribes the foundation of the Chittorgarh Fort to Lord Bhim, the second son of pandava who undertook to build it within a short period of twelve hours in deference to the promise he made to Yogi, Nirbhayanath. Historically speaking, it is said to have been built by Chitranganda Mori. He built Chittorgarh Fort about 7th century, Chitrakoot (chittor) was named after him. It is not known how many rulers of Mori Clan followed Chitranganda but the Man Mori was the last Mori ruler of Chittor from Bappa Rawal,Guhilot Prince of great repute got this Fort in 734 A.D. [url="http://chittorgarhcity.com"]chittorgarh[/url]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[chittorgarh, a very beautiful city with great history . Traditions which almost sounds legendry ascribes the foundation of the Chittorgarh Fort to Lord Bhim, the second son of pandava who undertook to build it within a short period of twelve hours in deference to the promise he made to Yogi, Nirbhayanath. Historically speaking, it is said to have been built by Chitranganda Mori. He built Chittorgarh Fort about 7th century, Chitrakoot (chittor) was named after him. It is not known how many rulers of Mori Clan followed Chitranganda but the Man Mori was the last Mori ruler of Chittor from Bappa Rawal,Guhilot Prince of great repute got this Fort in 734 A.D. [url="http://chittorgarhcity.com"]chittorgarh[/url]]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[History of Vedanta monotheism]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[1.Early indian monotheism<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The monotheist ideeas are present in hindu culture from vedic times,but just like in China,they usually dont transform in a specific religion and even then it seems that they have a limited following among the population.<br />
<br />
In China monotheism of Heaven worship(Tian or Shang Ti) was surpased by principle of Tao,a more impersonal aproach of the absolute.The heaven worship monotheism become just an addition to a larger imperial cult .<br />
<br />
The iranian culture also developed the monotheism of zoroastrism.Knowing the strong similarity of avestic teaching whit the vedic ones,we wonder why hindus didnt become <br />
<br />
as monotheist as their avestic brothers.<br />
<br />
The answer maybe the strong influence of middle east culture over the iranian neibhourhood.<br />
<br />
Only in the middle east monotheism become a specific ,exclusivist doctrine,probably influenced by the absolute monarchy that rule that land,where egyptian pharaoh or babilonian king demand total obedience.<br />
<br />
We see in early vedic and upanishadic teachings the ocasional raising of one god or anaother to the status of allpowerfullness or allknowiness,but we dont have evidence for a specific separate monotheistic cult except(as far as i know) for the cult of the god Vasudeva.<br />
<br />
Evidence for this cult are dated between 2 and 4 century BC but is not clear if Vasudeva is the same as the later Krishna(why should later change the usuall name in another name?)or the cult of vasudeva was absorbed in the cult of Krishna(Vasudeva becoming just the father of krishna),or here was different cults althoghder.<br />
<br />
However ,this cult seem to dissapear from the records during the time when Mimamsa school become the predominand school in India.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
2.Vedanta monotheism<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Monotheism start to have a large following when Vedanta become the main indian school.<br />
<br />
Shankara treaty on Vedanta,in he 8 century, is considered to be the aproximate date when Vedanta start to have a more large following ,overpassing Mimamsa.<br />
<br />
Starting whit Ramanuja(11 century) we have have the cristalisation of Vedanta monotheism.<br />
<br />
We see the development of a number of religions based on vedanta,that regard one god or another as being the supreme personal god ,even more,as the only one worty to be worshiped,while all other gods are seen as lesser gods,only expansions of the supreme god.<br />
<br />
Lets see now the principal monotheist religions of India: <br />
<br />
From shaiva branch:<br />
<br />
Shaiva Siddhanta:  monistic theism (950-1300 AD).In Meykandar's pluralistic realism (ca 1200), God, souls and world are beginningless and eternally coexistent. Shiva is <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
efficient but not material cause.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Siddha Siddhanta: Expounded by Rishi Gorakshanatha (ca 950), this monistic theism is known as bhedabheda. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Lingayatism: Made popular by Basavanna (1105Ã¢â¬â1167), this version of qualified nondualism, Shakti Vishishtadvaita, accepts both difference and nondifference between soul and God, <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
like rays are to the sun. Shiva and the cosmic force are one, yet Shiva is beyond His creation, which is real, not illusory.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Shiva Advaita: This monistic theism, formulated by Srikantha (ca 1050), is called Shiva Vishishtadvaita. The soul does not ultimately become perfectly one with Brahman, but <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
shares with the Supreme all excellent qualities. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Ganapati branch :replace Shiva whit Ganesh as the supreme god.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Vaishnava brach:<br />
<br />
Lakshmi-sampradaya-Philosophy: Vishishtadvaita ("qualified Non-dualism"), espoused by Ramanujacharya<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Brahma sampradaya-philosophies: Dvaita ("dualism"), espoused by Madhvacharya, and Achintya Bheda Abheda espoused by Gaudiya Vaishnavism.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Rudra sampradaya-Philosophy: Shuddhadvaita ("pure nondualism"), espoused by Vishnuswami and Vallabhacharya.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Kumara-sampradaya-Philosophy: Dvaitadvaita ("duality in unity"), espoused by Nimbarka.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Ramanadi vaishnava branch:replace Vishnu whit Rama asa the supreme god.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Swaminarayan vaishnava branch replace Krishna whit Narayana as main God.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
As we can see there is a surprising similarity betwin teological developments among shaiva and vaishnava during Vedanta period.There is a mirroring in time and ideas.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Unlike the precedent period of hinduism now wee see that only the main god is considered worthy to worship,while the other gods are lesser gods or emanations of the main god.<br />
<br />
In shaiva monotheism is Shiva alone ,in Ramanadi vaishnava Rama alone is worthy to worship,in Gaudya vaishnava Krishna alone,in Swamionarayana,Krishna Narayana alone is good for <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
worship(though Shiva is accepted in ritual as being part of Narayana).<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
We have 5 main monotheist religions in shaivism and another 6 monotheistic religions in vaishnava,all born as separate religions from about 1000 years ago.Not to count smaller sects.All thanks to Vedanta philosophy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[1.Early indian monotheism<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The monotheist ideeas are present in hindu culture from vedic times,but just like in China,they usually dont transform in a specific religion and even then it seems that they have a limited following among the population.<br />
<br />
In China monotheism of Heaven worship(Tian or Shang Ti) was surpased by principle of Tao,a more impersonal aproach of the absolute.The heaven worship monotheism become just an addition to a larger imperial cult .<br />
<br />
The iranian culture also developed the monotheism of zoroastrism.Knowing the strong similarity of avestic teaching whit the vedic ones,we wonder why hindus didnt become <br />
<br />
as monotheist as their avestic brothers.<br />
<br />
The answer maybe the strong influence of middle east culture over the iranian neibhourhood.<br />
<br />
Only in the middle east monotheism become a specific ,exclusivist doctrine,probably influenced by the absolute monarchy that rule that land,where egyptian pharaoh or babilonian king demand total obedience.<br />
<br />
We see in early vedic and upanishadic teachings the ocasional raising of one god or anaother to the status of allpowerfullness or allknowiness,but we dont have evidence for a specific separate monotheistic cult except(as far as i know) for the cult of the god Vasudeva.<br />
<br />
Evidence for this cult are dated between 2 and 4 century BC but is not clear if Vasudeva is the same as the later Krishna(why should later change the usuall name in another name?)or the cult of vasudeva was absorbed in the cult of Krishna(Vasudeva becoming just the father of krishna),or here was different cults althoghder.<br />
<br />
However ,this cult seem to dissapear from the records during the time when Mimamsa school become the predominand school in India.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
2.Vedanta monotheism<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Monotheism start to have a large following when Vedanta become the main indian school.<br />
<br />
Shankara treaty on Vedanta,in he 8 century, is considered to be the aproximate date when Vedanta start to have a more large following ,overpassing Mimamsa.<br />
<br />
Starting whit Ramanuja(11 century) we have have the cristalisation of Vedanta monotheism.<br />
<br />
We see the development of a number of religions based on vedanta,that regard one god or another as being the supreme personal god ,even more,as the only one worty to be worshiped,while all other gods are seen as lesser gods,only expansions of the supreme god.<br />
<br />
Lets see now the principal monotheist religions of India: <br />
<br />
From shaiva branch:<br />
<br />
Shaiva Siddhanta:  monistic theism (950-1300 AD).In Meykandar's pluralistic realism (ca 1200), God, souls and world are beginningless and eternally coexistent. Shiva is <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
efficient but not material cause.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Siddha Siddhanta: Expounded by Rishi Gorakshanatha (ca 950), this monistic theism is known as bhedabheda. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Lingayatism: Made popular by Basavanna (1105Ã¢â¬â1167), this version of qualified nondualism, Shakti Vishishtadvaita, accepts both difference and nondifference between soul and God, <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
like rays are to the sun. Shiva and the cosmic force are one, yet Shiva is beyond His creation, which is real, not illusory.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Shiva Advaita: This monistic theism, formulated by Srikantha (ca 1050), is called Shiva Vishishtadvaita. The soul does not ultimately become perfectly one with Brahman, but <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
shares with the Supreme all excellent qualities. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Ganapati branch :replace Shiva whit Ganesh as the supreme god.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Vaishnava brach:<br />
<br />
Lakshmi-sampradaya-Philosophy: Vishishtadvaita ("qualified Non-dualism"), espoused by Ramanujacharya<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Brahma sampradaya-philosophies: Dvaita ("dualism"), espoused by Madhvacharya, and Achintya Bheda Abheda espoused by Gaudiya Vaishnavism.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Rudra sampradaya-Philosophy: Shuddhadvaita ("pure nondualism"), espoused by Vishnuswami and Vallabhacharya.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Kumara-sampradaya-Philosophy: Dvaitadvaita ("duality in unity"), espoused by Nimbarka.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Ramanadi vaishnava branch:replace Vishnu whit Rama asa the supreme god.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Swaminarayan vaishnava branch replace Krishna whit Narayana as main God.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
As we can see there is a surprising similarity betwin teological developments among shaiva and vaishnava during Vedanta period.There is a mirroring in time and ideas.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Unlike the precedent period of hinduism now wee see that only the main god is considered worthy to worship,while the other gods are lesser gods or emanations of the main god.<br />
<br />
In shaiva monotheism is Shiva alone ,in Ramanadi vaishnava Rama alone is worthy to worship,in Gaudya vaishnava Krishna alone,in Swamionarayana,Krishna Narayana alone is good for <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
worship(though Shiva is accepted in ritual as being part of Narayana).<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
We have 5 main monotheist religions in shaivism and another 6 monotheistic religions in vaishnava,all born as separate religions from about 1000 years ago.Not to count smaller sects.All thanks to Vedanta philosophy.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lala Lajpat Rai letters of 1924]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Scheme of Muslim rule in India]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Muslim rule from Delhi from 1206-1707 </span> (= 501 years)<br />
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The Muslim rulers of Delhi influenced more or less the politics from the fortified residences within their annexed areas the life in and outside those areas. While they could dominate (read terrorize) the cities, towns and countryside outside their strongholds but within their kingdom respectively empire, they tried to conquer the inimical strongholds outside their kingdom with planned raids of the cities, towns and countryside and sieges of their strongholds. These were either annexed or remained independent.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The Turki and Mughal invasions were attempted to conquer and rule over India. The Islamiced Turks from the Ghazni belt, pressing the local Bauddha Turks and Hindu/Bauddha Pathans and other locals, managed to rule over Delhi and other fortified areas in the northern plains. The Mughals started from 1221 on with their attempts from the Ghazni-Gandhara belt. They only managed to conquer India in 1526, to lose it again in 1540, and regain it in 1555 , with the help of Iran.<br />
<br />
Four groups of Mughals, Turks, Pathans and other Indians interacted, with the Hindu-remaining Indians within specific geographical zones, which I call Mandalas, from Central-Asia to the Indian seas.<br />
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Mandalas (belt): Political wave effects on India from geo-zones<br />
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<br />
<br />
I. OXUS-JAXARTES VALLEYS<br />
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1. Khurasan Mandala (Khurasani areas)<br />
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This area was important for the developments into the subcontinent from the Hindukush deep into the Indo-Gangetic plains. The Islamiced Turks and Tajiks and other E-Iranic (E-Iranian and descendants of Sakas and Tukharas) were dominant in these areas with a hybrid but predominantly Persian culture.<br />
<br />
Mughal invasion, enslaving Turks from the north, and then also Turks and Tajiks from Khurasan caused a deep antagonism between Turks-Tajiks and Mughals. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
II. OUTER INDIA (Pash/khtuni areas)<br />
<br />
2. Ghazni-Gandhara Mandala<br />
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Migrated Turks and Tajiks already settled or freshly arrived from Khurasan dominated the local newly Islamiced Pathans-Hindkos-other Hindus and non-Islamiced populations. This caused a deep antagonism of the Turk-Tajik with the local freshly Islamized Pathans-others and non-Islamized Hindu groups.<br />
<br />
With the Mughal invasion within the Ghazni-Gandhara Mandala, we get three antagonistic groups: Mughals-Turks and Tajiks-Pathans and Hindus.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
III. INNER INDIA (Pakistani areas)<br />
<br />
3A. Indus Valley Mandala: (WPanjab-Multan-Sindh)<br />
<br />
After the Ghazni Mandala the next thread came from the Islamized Indus Valley centers in Lahore and Multan. The last was an Ismaili Shiite mini-belt.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
B. North India Mandala<br />
<br />
In this Mandala the power triangle Delhi-Bangal-Gujarat  influenced other centers like Rajputana, Malwa-Mathura and the Mid-Gangetic. Political fortified centers and other citadels were interlinked, Hindu religious centers were converted into Muslim ones, changing also their place names.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The four Sunnite tribes formed these groupings: Khurasano-Afghani Mughals, Turk and Tajiks versus Afghano-Hindustani converted Pathans and converted Hindus. Both groupings were antagonistic towards each other, but both were religiously hostile towards Hindus. Pathans were spread in the Purab and other countrysides.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
C. South India Mandala<br />
<br />
In this Mandala the Iranian Shiites started a belt in the Deccan, wagings political wars against the Sunnites from the North, with help of the Hindus, but religious wars with help of Sunnites against the same Hindus from the South.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The Muslims, starting from Muhammad bin Sam established bases for Muslim overlords over Hindu rulers who paid tribute. At local levels within direct Muslim rule, a host of lesser chieftains (muqqaddams) and headmen (khots) were employed during Alauddin Khilji, as per Barni.<br />
<br />
During Muhammad Tughluq, Hindus who lived in villages under a Muslim officer or Hakim were distinguished from Hindus of the Mawasat (jungles, bare or barren lands). <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Dar-ul-Islami heartland</span><br />
<br />
A. The fortified areas (forts, towns, cities) were under direct Sultanate rule. <br />
<br />
B. The open countryside was land of the infidels: The landholders (zamindar) and peasants (dahiqin) are only ostensily subjects (ra'aya-yi suri), paying taxes out of fear of the sword.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Dar-ul- Harbi periphery</span><br />
<br />
A. Zaminbus areas; loosely tolerated Hindu kingdom areas were existent due to paying tributes (pAibUs, zamInbUs).<br />
<br />
B. Mawas areas: these were beyond control. Even Muslim rebels and dissidents took refuge there, forming a cluster sometimes of Hindu and Muslim partizans.<br />
<br />
Two means of attacking these Harbi areas were through actions of Sultani Swords and Sufi Saints.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Within every stronghold area of the Delhi Sultanate, there were pacified Zaminbus royals and troublemaking Mawas rebels. The Delhi and other Sultans never controlled their subjects outside the fortified dots within their kingdoms. Therefore, any map depicting the geographical limits of their power with one colour, is giving a highly flattered picture!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
In the Sultanate Period, the largest kingdoms were under: <br />
<br />
a. Turki Balban Mamluk<br />
<br />
b. Turkoid Alauddin Khalaji<br />
<br />
c. Turki Muhammad Tughluq<br />
<br />
d. Turkoid Sikandar Lodi (Khalaji)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The Padishah Period has three subperiods:<br />
<br />
A. Babur and Humayun<br />
<br />
B. Interregnum Suri Pathans <br />
<br />
C1. Akbar: most influential Padishah<br />
<br />
2. Jahangir<br />
<br />
3. Shah Jahan<br />
<br />
4. Aurangzeb: largest kingdom<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">I. 1st Delhi Kingdom</span> (1206-1398 = 192 years)<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">1. Turki Mamluks</span> (1206-1290 = 84 years) <br />
<br />
Shamanist Mughal threats, at least 15 major invasions.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
A. Qutbuddin Aibak (1206-1210)<br />
<br />
B. Aram Shah (1210-1211)<br />
<br />
C. Iyaltimish (1211-1236)<br />
<br />
1223/4 Dorbey and Bala Mughals invade Multan and Lahore for Chengiz Khan (1206-1227)<br />
<br />
1235 Kashmir area invaded for Ogodei (1227-1241)<br />
<br />
Pakchak Mughal invades Peshawar for Ogodei (1227-1241)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
D. Rukuddin Firuz (1236), Razia Sultana (1236-1240), Muizzuddin Bahram (1240-1242), Alauddin Masud (1242-1246) , Nasiruddin Masud (1246-1266)<br />
<br />
1239 Mughal held the tract beyond the Chenab.<br />
<br />
1241 Dayir and Mengutei Mughal invasion of Lahore for Ogodei (1227-1241)<br />
<br />
Sali Mughal invades Kashmir area for Mongke (1251-1257)<br />
<br />
1245/6 Mengutai Mughal invasion of Uch and Multan<br />
<br />
1248-1252 Sali Mughal invades Multan and Lahore for Hulagu (1257-): bought of.. Lahore and Sindh became Mughal<br />
<br />
1257 Kushlu Khan invades Delhi<br />
<br />
1257/8 Sali Mughal occupies Ucch and Multan for Hulagu <br />
<br />
NOTE: Ulugh Khan Balban was active as general against the Mughal invasions. Not always successful.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
E. Ghiyasuddin Balban (1266-1286)<br />
<br />
Annual Mughal attacks, as far as Rupar on the Satlaj, as per Barni.<br />
<br />
1266 Mughals crossed the Beas river and attacked Uch.<br />
<br />
1268 Balban takes Lahore from Mughal subordinate Kushlu Khan.<br />
<br />
1284/5 Temur Mughal defeats Balban's general at Ravi junction with Dhandh.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
F. Muizzuddin Kaikubad (1286-1290)<br />
<br />
Kayumars (1290) only three years old was dethroned by his guardian Alauddin Khalaji.<br />
<br />
1287 Temur Mughal invades territory between Lahore and Samana.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">2. Turkoid Khalajis</span> (1290-1320 = 30 years)<br />
<br />
Shamanist some Muslim Mughal invasions, 10 counted. <br />
<br />
1303 Siri and Jahanpanah fortifications repaired.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
A. Jalaluddin Firuz<br />
<br />
1291 Mughal invasion at frontier.<br />
<br />
1292 Abdallah Mughal invasion: Alughu into Panjab, Alughu and his 4000 advance guard became the New Muslims and settled in Delhi's Mughalpur quarter, main thread of Mughals was bought off.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
B. Ali Gurshasp Alauddin (1296-1316): usurped the throne<br />
<br />
1st Mughal invasions 1296-7 Duva Khan: in 1297 Jalandhar <br />
<br />
2nd Mughal invasion 1297/8 Saldi <br />
<br />
3rd Mughal invasion 1399 Qutluq Khvaja into Delhi <br />
<br />
4th Mughal invasion 1303 Targhay into Delhi <br />
<br />
5th Mughal invasion 1303 Ali Beg and Tartaq into Panjab<br />
<br />
6th Mughal invasion 1306 Kebek into Multan and Panjab<br />
<br />
7th Mughal invasion 1307/8 Iqbalmand and Taibu at Indus river. Duva Khan died, succession war.<br />
<br />
Mughal commander tried to kill Malik Kafur in 1311 &gt; all Mughals of Sultanate murdered.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
C. Qutbuddin Mubarak Shah (1316- 1320)<br />
<br />
1320 Mongol invasion of Zulju into Kashmir<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
- Interregnum<br />
<br />
1320 Sultan Khushrau Khan Parvar: Hindus and their cults (ban on cow-slaughter) again revered.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">3. Turki Tughluqs</span> (1320-1413 = 93 years)<br />
<br />
Three Mughal invasions<br />
<br />
A. Giyathuddin (1320-1325)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
B. Muhammad (1325-1351): 'usurped' the throne<br />
<br />
1327 Mughal invasion Tarmashirin into Lamghan-Multan-siege Delhi. Thread was bought off. Bauddha Tarmashirin later became Muslim.<br />
<br />
 Mughal raids of Amir Qazaghan into Northern India<br />
<br />
Mughal Amir Qazaghan helped Muhammad suppress rebellions in 1350.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
C. Firuz Shah (1351-1388)<br />
<br />
Note: Timur from 1363 ruler of Transoxiana-Khurasan: centralization (politics), Islamization (religion) and Islamo-Persianization (culture). A split between Islamiced and non-Islamized Chaghatai Mughals. He tried to found a new Mughal empire.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">II. 2nd  Delhi Kingdom</span> (1398-1556 = 158 years)<br />
<br />
1398 DESTRUCTIVE RAID TIMUR A CHAGATAYID MUGHAL<br />
<br />
1398-1414 anarchy and regionalism<br />
<br />
Many areas in Northern India were untouched by the weakened Delhi kingdom.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">a. Saiyads </span>(1414-1451 = 47 years)<br />
<br />
A. Khizr Khan (1414-1421): vassal of the Timurid Chaghatays (Mughal)<br />
<br />
B. Mubarak Khan (1421-1434)<br />
<br />
C. Muhammad Shah (1434-1445)<br />
<br />
D. Alauddin Alam Shah (1445-1451)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">b. Turkoid Lodis </span>(Khalajis) (1451-1526 = 75 years)<br />
<br />
A. Bahlul (1451-1489)<br />
<br />
B. Sikandar (1489-1517)<br />
<br />
C. Ibrahim (1517-1526<br />
<br />
Mughal invasion of Babar<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">c. Timurid Chaghatay Mughals </span>(1526-1556 = 30 years)<br />
<br />
A. Babar (1526-1530) Ã¢â¬â hated his Mughal ancestry, considered himself a Turk, but Barlas are Mongols.<br />
<br />
B1. Humayun 1st rule (1530-1545)<br />
<br />
C. - Interregnum Pathan Suris (1540-1555)<br />
<br />
B2. Humayun 2nd rule (1555-1556)<br />
<br />
- Interregnum Hemu (1556)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">III. Delhi Empire </span>(1556-1707 = 151 years)<br />
<br />
A. Akbar (1556-1605)<br />
<br />
B. Jahangir (1605-1627)<br />
<br />
- Interregnum (1527-1528)<br />
<br />
C. Shah Jahan (1528-1558)<br />
<br />
D. Aurangzeb (1558-1707)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The above described scheme includes many blank incidents, not mentioned in standard works, such as the prolonged Mughal attempts to conquer India from 1221 on. Omitting the weight of these invasions, and even all the occurring ones in contemporary works indicates the submissive nature of court writers to their Turki patrons. Many facts, like defeats were not given proper attention. Exageration of their own exploits were not uncommon. (This is equally true of their defeats at Hindu hands.)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The scheme has the benefit to get a better grasp of the political picture, related to the regnal periods and extent of their dominion. Keeping in mind that the Muslims only controlled fortified dots within their kingdom, we get also a picture of the partly independent tributary Rajas and also the fully independent and uncontrollable rulers.<br />
<br />
We get a better outlining of the heoric Hindu resistence.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The severe threats of the invasions of the Mughals were the real cause of the relocations of the capital seat in Delhi, and even once outside Delhi during the Tughluqs. There wasn't any time and money to build from scratch any major city, fort or building, thus the Sultans were content with usurping preexisting ones, making them fit or embellishing them to acquire Islamic standards, to pacify their Ulemas.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Another factor to reckon with is the political and religious interaction of 4 groups of Muslims (outer belt Mughals, outer belt Tajik-Turks, inner belt Pathans and other converted, inner belt converted Hindus; actually a fifth is when taking the Shiites apart from the Sunnites) with each other and against the non-Muslim Hindus.<br />
<br />
This scheme provides a handy tool to outline the atrocities commited by the Muslims rulers, originating from which belts and by which of their 5 groups, and thus getting a twofold better picture of the Hinducides and total Hinducaust and the developments of architecture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Muslim rule from Delhi from 1206-1707 </span> (= 501 years)<br />
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<br />
<br />
The Muslim rulers of Delhi influenced more or less the politics from the fortified residences within their annexed areas the life in and outside those areas. While they could dominate (read terrorize) the cities, towns and countryside outside their strongholds but within their kingdom respectively empire, they tried to conquer the inimical strongholds outside their kingdom with planned raids of the cities, towns and countryside and sieges of their strongholds. These were either annexed or remained independent.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The Turki and Mughal invasions were attempted to conquer and rule over India. The Islamiced Turks from the Ghazni belt, pressing the local Bauddha Turks and Hindu/Bauddha Pathans and other locals, managed to rule over Delhi and other fortified areas in the northern plains. The Mughals started from 1221 on with their attempts from the Ghazni-Gandhara belt. They only managed to conquer India in 1526, to lose it again in 1540, and regain it in 1555 , with the help of Iran.<br />
<br />
Four groups of Mughals, Turks, Pathans and other Indians interacted, with the Hindu-remaining Indians within specific geographical zones, which I call Mandalas, from Central-Asia to the Indian seas.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Mandalas (belt): Political wave effects on India from geo-zones<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
I. OXUS-JAXARTES VALLEYS<br />
<br />
1. Khurasan Mandala (Khurasani areas)<br />
<br />
This area was important for the developments into the subcontinent from the Hindukush deep into the Indo-Gangetic plains. The Islamiced Turks and Tajiks and other E-Iranic (E-Iranian and descendants of Sakas and Tukharas) were dominant in these areas with a hybrid but predominantly Persian culture.<br />
<br />
Mughal invasion, enslaving Turks from the north, and then also Turks and Tajiks from Khurasan caused a deep antagonism between Turks-Tajiks and Mughals. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
II. OUTER INDIA (Pash/khtuni areas)<br />
<br />
2. Ghazni-Gandhara Mandala<br />
<br />
Migrated Turks and Tajiks already settled or freshly arrived from Khurasan dominated the local newly Islamiced Pathans-Hindkos-other Hindus and non-Islamiced populations. This caused a deep antagonism of the Turk-Tajik with the local freshly Islamized Pathans-others and non-Islamized Hindu groups.<br />
<br />
With the Mughal invasion within the Ghazni-Gandhara Mandala, we get three antagonistic groups: Mughals-Turks and Tajiks-Pathans and Hindus.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
III. INNER INDIA (Pakistani areas)<br />
<br />
3A. Indus Valley Mandala: (WPanjab-Multan-Sindh)<br />
<br />
After the Ghazni Mandala the next thread came from the Islamized Indus Valley centers in Lahore and Multan. The last was an Ismaili Shiite mini-belt.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
B. North India Mandala<br />
<br />
In this Mandala the power triangle Delhi-Bangal-Gujarat  influenced other centers like Rajputana, Malwa-Mathura and the Mid-Gangetic. Political fortified centers and other citadels were interlinked, Hindu religious centers were converted into Muslim ones, changing also their place names.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The four Sunnite tribes formed these groupings: Khurasano-Afghani Mughals, Turk and Tajiks versus Afghano-Hindustani converted Pathans and converted Hindus. Both groupings were antagonistic towards each other, but both were religiously hostile towards Hindus. Pathans were spread in the Purab and other countrysides.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
C. South India Mandala<br />
<br />
In this Mandala the Iranian Shiites started a belt in the Deccan, wagings political wars against the Sunnites from the North, with help of the Hindus, but religious wars with help of Sunnites against the same Hindus from the South.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The Muslims, starting from Muhammad bin Sam established bases for Muslim overlords over Hindu rulers who paid tribute. At local levels within direct Muslim rule, a host of lesser chieftains (muqqaddams) and headmen (khots) were employed during Alauddin Khilji, as per Barni.<br />
<br />
During Muhammad Tughluq, Hindus who lived in villages under a Muslim officer or Hakim were distinguished from Hindus of the Mawasat (jungles, bare or barren lands). <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Dar-ul-Islami heartland</span><br />
<br />
A. The fortified areas (forts, towns, cities) were under direct Sultanate rule. <br />
<br />
B. The open countryside was land of the infidels: The landholders (zamindar) and peasants (dahiqin) are only ostensily subjects (ra'aya-yi suri), paying taxes out of fear of the sword.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Dar-ul- Harbi periphery</span><br />
<br />
A. Zaminbus areas; loosely tolerated Hindu kingdom areas were existent due to paying tributes (pAibUs, zamInbUs).<br />
<br />
B. Mawas areas: these were beyond control. Even Muslim rebels and dissidents took refuge there, forming a cluster sometimes of Hindu and Muslim partizans.<br />
<br />
Two means of attacking these Harbi areas were through actions of Sultani Swords and Sufi Saints.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Within every stronghold area of the Delhi Sultanate, there were pacified Zaminbus royals and troublemaking Mawas rebels. The Delhi and other Sultans never controlled their subjects outside the fortified dots within their kingdoms. Therefore, any map depicting the geographical limits of their power with one colour, is giving a highly flattered picture!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
In the Sultanate Period, the largest kingdoms were under: <br />
<br />
a. Turki Balban Mamluk<br />
<br />
b. Turkoid Alauddin Khalaji<br />
<br />
c. Turki Muhammad Tughluq<br />
<br />
d. Turkoid Sikandar Lodi (Khalaji)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The Padishah Period has three subperiods:<br />
<br />
A. Babur and Humayun<br />
<br />
B. Interregnum Suri Pathans <br />
<br />
C1. Akbar: most influential Padishah<br />
<br />
2. Jahangir<br />
<br />
3. Shah Jahan<br />
<br />
4. Aurangzeb: largest kingdom<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">I. 1st Delhi Kingdom</span> (1206-1398 = 192 years)<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">1. Turki Mamluks</span> (1206-1290 = 84 years) <br />
<br />
Shamanist Mughal threats, at least 15 major invasions.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
A. Qutbuddin Aibak (1206-1210)<br />
<br />
B. Aram Shah (1210-1211)<br />
<br />
C. Iyaltimish (1211-1236)<br />
<br />
1223/4 Dorbey and Bala Mughals invade Multan and Lahore for Chengiz Khan (1206-1227)<br />
<br />
1235 Kashmir area invaded for Ogodei (1227-1241)<br />
<br />
Pakchak Mughal invades Peshawar for Ogodei (1227-1241)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
D. Rukuddin Firuz (1236), Razia Sultana (1236-1240), Muizzuddin Bahram (1240-1242), Alauddin Masud (1242-1246) , Nasiruddin Masud (1246-1266)<br />
<br />
1239 Mughal held the tract beyond the Chenab.<br />
<br />
1241 Dayir and Mengutei Mughal invasion of Lahore for Ogodei (1227-1241)<br />
<br />
Sali Mughal invades Kashmir area for Mongke (1251-1257)<br />
<br />
1245/6 Mengutai Mughal invasion of Uch and Multan<br />
<br />
1248-1252 Sali Mughal invades Multan and Lahore for Hulagu (1257-): bought of.. Lahore and Sindh became Mughal<br />
<br />
1257 Kushlu Khan invades Delhi<br />
<br />
1257/8 Sali Mughal occupies Ucch and Multan for Hulagu <br />
<br />
NOTE: Ulugh Khan Balban was active as general against the Mughal invasions. Not always successful.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
E. Ghiyasuddin Balban (1266-1286)<br />
<br />
Annual Mughal attacks, as far as Rupar on the Satlaj, as per Barni.<br />
<br />
1266 Mughals crossed the Beas river and attacked Uch.<br />
<br />
1268 Balban takes Lahore from Mughal subordinate Kushlu Khan.<br />
<br />
1284/5 Temur Mughal defeats Balban's general at Ravi junction with Dhandh.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
F. Muizzuddin Kaikubad (1286-1290)<br />
<br />
Kayumars (1290) only three years old was dethroned by his guardian Alauddin Khalaji.<br />
<br />
1287 Temur Mughal invades territory between Lahore and Samana.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">2. Turkoid Khalajis</span> (1290-1320 = 30 years)<br />
<br />
Shamanist some Muslim Mughal invasions, 10 counted. <br />
<br />
1303 Siri and Jahanpanah fortifications repaired.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
A. Jalaluddin Firuz<br />
<br />
1291 Mughal invasion at frontier.<br />
<br />
1292 Abdallah Mughal invasion: Alughu into Panjab, Alughu and his 4000 advance guard became the New Muslims and settled in Delhi's Mughalpur quarter, main thread of Mughals was bought off.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
B. Ali Gurshasp Alauddin (1296-1316): usurped the throne<br />
<br />
1st Mughal invasions 1296-7 Duva Khan: in 1297 Jalandhar <br />
<br />
2nd Mughal invasion 1297/8 Saldi <br />
<br />
3rd Mughal invasion 1399 Qutluq Khvaja into Delhi <br />
<br />
4th Mughal invasion 1303 Targhay into Delhi <br />
<br />
5th Mughal invasion 1303 Ali Beg and Tartaq into Panjab<br />
<br />
6th Mughal invasion 1306 Kebek into Multan and Panjab<br />
<br />
7th Mughal invasion 1307/8 Iqbalmand and Taibu at Indus river. Duva Khan died, succession war.<br />
<br />
Mughal commander tried to kill Malik Kafur in 1311 &gt; all Mughals of Sultanate murdered.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
C. Qutbuddin Mubarak Shah (1316- 1320)<br />
<br />
1320 Mongol invasion of Zulju into Kashmir<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
- Interregnum<br />
<br />
1320 Sultan Khushrau Khan Parvar: Hindus and their cults (ban on cow-slaughter) again revered.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">3. Turki Tughluqs</span> (1320-1413 = 93 years)<br />
<br />
Three Mughal invasions<br />
<br />
A. Giyathuddin (1320-1325)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
B. Muhammad (1325-1351): 'usurped' the throne<br />
<br />
1327 Mughal invasion Tarmashirin into Lamghan-Multan-siege Delhi. Thread was bought off. Bauddha Tarmashirin later became Muslim.<br />
<br />
 Mughal raids of Amir Qazaghan into Northern India<br />
<br />
Mughal Amir Qazaghan helped Muhammad suppress rebellions in 1350.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
C. Firuz Shah (1351-1388)<br />
<br />
Note: Timur from 1363 ruler of Transoxiana-Khurasan: centralization (politics), Islamization (religion) and Islamo-Persianization (culture). A split between Islamiced and non-Islamized Chaghatai Mughals. He tried to found a new Mughal empire.<br />
<br />
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1398 DESTRUCTIVE RAID TIMUR A CHAGATAYID MUGHAL<br />
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1398-1414 anarchy and regionalism<br />
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Many areas in Northern India were untouched by the weakened Delhi kingdom.<br />
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<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">a. Saiyads </span>(1414-1451 = 47 years)<br />
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A. Khizr Khan (1414-1421): vassal of the Timurid Chaghatays (Mughal)<br />
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B. Mubarak Khan (1421-1434)<br />
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C. Muhammad Shah (1434-1445)<br />
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D. Alauddin Alam Shah (1445-1451)<br />
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<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">b. Turkoid Lodis </span>(Khalajis) (1451-1526 = 75 years)<br />
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A. Bahlul (1451-1489)<br />
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C. Ibrahim (1517-1526<br />
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Mughal invasion of Babar<br />
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<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">c. Timurid Chaghatay Mughals </span>(1526-1556 = 30 years)<br />
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A. Babar (1526-1530) Ã¢â¬â hated his Mughal ancestry, considered himself a Turk, but Barlas are Mongols.<br />
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B1. Humayun 1st rule (1530-1545)<br />
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C. - Interregnum Pathan Suris (1540-1555)<br />
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B2. Humayun 2nd rule (1555-1556)<br />
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- Interregnum Hemu (1556)<br />
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A. Akbar (1556-1605)<br />
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- Interregnum (1527-1528)<br />
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C. Shah Jahan (1528-1558)<br />
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D. Aurangzeb (1558-1707)<br />
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The above described scheme includes many blank incidents, not mentioned in standard works, such as the prolonged Mughal attempts to conquer India from 1221 on. Omitting the weight of these invasions, and even all the occurring ones in contemporary works indicates the submissive nature of court writers to their Turki patrons. Many facts, like defeats were not given proper attention. Exageration of their own exploits were not uncommon. (This is equally true of their defeats at Hindu hands.)<br />
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The scheme has the benefit to get a better grasp of the political picture, related to the regnal periods and extent of their dominion. Keeping in mind that the Muslims only controlled fortified dots within their kingdom, we get also a picture of the partly independent tributary Rajas and also the fully independent and uncontrollable rulers.<br />
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We get a better outlining of the heoric Hindu resistence.<br />
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The severe threats of the invasions of the Mughals were the real cause of the relocations of the capital seat in Delhi, and even once outside Delhi during the Tughluqs. There wasn't any time and money to build from scratch any major city, fort or building, thus the Sultans were content with usurping preexisting ones, making them fit or embellishing them to acquire Islamic standards, to pacify their Ulemas.<br />
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Another factor to reckon with is the political and religious interaction of 4 groups of Muslims (outer belt Mughals, outer belt Tajik-Turks, inner belt Pathans and other converted, inner belt converted Hindus; actually a fifth is when taking the Shiites apart from the Sunnites) with each other and against the non-Muslim Hindus.<br />
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This scheme provides a handy tool to outline the atrocities commited by the Muslims rulers, originating from which belts and by which of their 5 groups, and thus getting a twofold better picture of the Hinducides and total Hinducaust and the developments of architecture.]]></content:encoded>
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The Eastern Ganga Dynasty and the Gajapati Kingdom ruled over the parts of Orissa,Chhattisgarh,Andhra Pradesh,West Bengal<br />
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			<description><![CDATA[[url="http://bastiat.net/en/cercle/meetings/Understanding_Islam.htm"]Understanding Islam[/url]<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Account of the talk given by Jean-Jacques Walter on 16th February 2008 <br />
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One of the rules of Judeo-Christian civilisation is that the law is superior to power.  The most ancient demonstration of this is when David seduced Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite.  When David learnt that Bathsheba was pregnant, he didn't know how to explain it to Uriah, and had the latter killed so as not to have to answer for it.  David was punished by God, because king though he was, he had no right to kill his neighbour to take his wife : the law is above the king.  In the Old Testament, this story is presented as exemplary, but, in fact, it took 3000 years for that principle to become integrated into Christian societies.  Only two centuries ago, there was a legal principle in France, "Rex a legibus solutus est", in other words, he who lays down the law is above the law.  I remember a discussion I had ten years ago with a member of the Council of State.  He said to me, "Yes, of course, the State is subject to the law like anyone else, but it happens to be one step above".  That is exactly what Orwell remarked : "All men are equal, but some are more equal than others".<br />
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It took two thousand years for the principle of equality to be adopted by society as a whole.<br />
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When one analyses societies that have been shaped by an ideology, it is important to look closely at the ideology, because that is what enforces itself in the end, and eventually changes society.  This holds good for Islam.  What matters is its ideology and not the way in which it is embodied in different countries.  The wars between France and Islam are an example.  We always speak of Poitiers : "the Muslims were defeated at Poitiers and they left".  We are more or less consciously comparing it to other battles, for instance the battle of VouillÃÂ©, in 507 : Clovis defeated the Visigoths and Aquitaine became French.  That is not at all what happened with Islam.<br />
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The Muslims entered what was then France in 714.  They seized Narbonne, which became their base for the next 40 years, and carried out methodical raids.  They ravaged the Languedoc region from 714 to 725, destroyed NÃÂ®mes in 725 and devastated the right bank of the Rhone as far north as Sens.<br />
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In 721, a Muslim army of 100,000 soldiers laid siege to Toulouse, defended by Eudes, the duke of Aquitaine.  Charles Martel sent troops to help Eudes.  After six months' siege, the latter made a sally and crushed the Muslim army, which retreated in disarray to Spain and lost 80,000 soldiers in the campaign.  Little is said of the battle of Toulouse because Eudes was a Merovingian.  The Capetians were in the process of becoming kings of France and didn't fancy recognizing a Merovingian victory. <br />
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The Muslims concluded that it was dangerous to attack France from the eastern end of the Pyrenees, and they conducted their fresh attacks from the western end of the chain.  15,000 Muslim horsemen took and destroyed Bordeaux, then the Loire region, laid siege to Poitiers, and were finally stopped by Charles Martel and Eudes twenty kilometres north of Poitiers in 732.  The surviving Muslims broke up into small bands and continued to ravage Aquitaine.  Fresh soldiers would join them from time to time to take part in the looting.  Those bands were eventually eradicated only in 808, by Charlemagne.<br />
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The ravages in the east went on until, in 737, Charles Martel went south with a powerful army, successively regained possession of Avignon, NÃÂ®mes, Maguelone, Agde, BÃÂ©ziers, and laid siege to Narbonne.  A Saxon attack on the north of France compelled Charles Martel to leave the region.  Eventually, in 759, PÃÂ©pin le Bref regained possession of Narbonne and crushed the invaders definitively.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The latter broke up into small bands, as they had done in the west, and continued to devastate the country, notably by deporting the men to turn them into castrated slaves, and the women to introduce them into North African harems, where they were used to give birth to Muslims.  The bastion of these bands was at Fraxinetum, the present-day La Garde-Freinet.   An area of about 10,000 square kilometres, in the Maures massif, was totally depopulated.<br />
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In 972, the Muslim bands captured Mayeul, the Abbot of Cluny, on the road to Mount Geneva.  The event created an immense stir.  Guillaume II, count of Provence, spent 9 years conducting a sort of electoral campaign in order to motivate the inhabitants of Provence, then, from 983 onwards, methodically hunted down all the Muslim bands, small or large.  In 990, the last of them were destroyed.  They had devastated France for two centuries.<br />
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Muslim pressure did not cease for all that.  It was exerted over the following 250 years by raids carried out from the sea.  The men who were captured were taken to castration camps in Corsica, then deported to the forced labour prisons of DÃÂ¢r al Islam, and the women of nubile age to the harems.  The Muslim pirates' lairs were in Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, on the coasts of Spain and of North Africa.  Toulon was completely destroyed in 1178 and 1197, the population massacred or deported, the town left deserted.<br />
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Finally, the Muslims having been driven from Corsica, Sicily, Sardinia, from southern Italy and northern Spain, the attacks on French soil ceased but they continued at sea.  It was not until 1830, that France, exasperated by the exactions, made up its mind to go to Algeria in order to definitively destroy the last bastions of the Muslim pirates<br />
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What is striking is that between the years 714, the first incursion, and 1830, the final crushing of the Barbary pirates, there elapsed over a millennium.  Now no political organisation lasts for a thousand years.  How then was that endless war kept going for so long?<br />
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The active principle of the war was the same as that of the war waged by the Spaniards on their own soil, and which also lasted over one thousand years : ideology.  Only an ideology is lasting enough to give rise, century after century, to that sort of inexpiable war.  That is why, if you wish to understand Islam, you must study its ideology and not conduct an almost ethnological study of the different varieties of Islam. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> I repeat : its ideology;  because, for Muslim scholars, Islam is DÃÂ®n, Dunya, Daoula, i.e. religion, society, state.  Khomeiny used to say that 90% of Islamic rules are to do with civil society, and that, in an Islamic library, 90% of the books deal with society and the state, and only 10% with private morals and man's relationship with God.  The problem with Islam is not religion, it is the civil part of the ideology.<br />
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Islam is founded on the same structure as political totalitarian machines.  The most well known are the total socialisms of the 20th century, but if we delve deep into history, the Akkad dynasties, ancient China, the Incas etc. were totalitarian machines that have a certain number of elements in common with Islam.  To show up these elements, one only has to compare the main features of total socialisms with those of Islam.</span><br />
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Islam, like soviet socialism, is founded on a dual basis : on the one hand the ideological foundation, and on the other the imposition of that ideology through armed force.  The combination of the two is characteristic.  The earliest person to speak of this was Sima Qian, one of the greatest intellectuals in China, a historian, who was also prime minister.  As an intellectual and as prime minister, he was perfectly acquainted with a system based both on ideology and on violence.  In his letter to Jen An, which dates back to 91 B.C., he explains that, in such a system, there can be only two solutions :<br />
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    * physical death : you oppose the system and in that case you are killed<br />
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    * spiritual death : you pretend to believe in the ideology, and in that case you wear a mask.<br />
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But "the mask sticks to your face", as Sima Qian puts it.  The mask becomes your face and you become what you didn't want to be.  It may take a few years or a few generations, but it always happens.<br />
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Thus, according to Sima Qian, in a system founded both on force and on ideology, one can choose only between physical death and spiritual death.<br />
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That is precisely the structure of Islam, founded both on ideology and on the use of armed force.  I have already spoken of violence towards the exterior. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> One must add to that the interior violence that is exerted on the 'dhimmis'.  The term 'dhimmis' refers to peoples conquered by the Muslim armies, who lose all their political rights and the greater part of their civil rights, and who become foreigners in their own country.  They are driven to extinction by a combination of methods.</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Throughout antiquity, and right up until the second half of the 19th century, there were fluctuations in population due either to famines, or to epidemics, or to wars.  After each decline, the population would increase again until it reached its equilibrium, that is, the maximum number of people who could live on the land considering the agricultural techniques available.  The Muslims built new towns, Oran, Cordoba, Cairo, etc. while slaughtering or deporting the local populations, and peopling the towns with Arabs either from the Hedjaz region or from Syria.  At first, these immigrants were few in number.  In North Africa there were 5 million Berbers.  About 200,000 Arab-Muslims were brought in and established in areas that had been depopulated to that end.  The immigrant population grew to the maximum number tolerated by the agricultural production of the occupied areas, they then cut up the remaining land into strips that were depopulated one by one and given over to the expansion of the Arab-Muslims.  Each successive strip was small enough not to stir up a general revolt, but sufficient for the Arab-Muslims never to reach their demographic equilibrium, and to be able to continue their growth.<br />
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Alongside localized massacres in order to invade new areas, a fall in the birth rate was deliberately brought about among non-Muslims.  The latter, the 'dhimmis', had to wear a round yellow badge on dark clothes.  They could use only donkeys, lowly mounts, camels and horses, noble mounts, being reserved for Muslims.  Donkeys could only be mounted with a pack and not a saddle, in the country and not in town.  Dhimmis' houses had to be smaller in size than those of Muslims.  Many other provisions of a similar nature destroyed the dignity of dhimmis and lessened their self-confidence, whence a drop in their birth rate and their progressive extinction.<br />
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The fall in the birth rate, massacres and conversions under coercion were the means which, in invaded countries, gradually brought about what Bat Ye'or calls a demographic reversal. There were 200,000 Muslims to 5 million Berbers at the start of the Muslim invasion.  After 8 wars, and three centuries of the above methods being applied, there were 1% Berbers left in Tunisia, 10% in Algeria, where they were driven into Kabylia, about 35 to 40% in Morocco, where they were driven into the Atlas and Riff regions, each time infertile mountainous lands.<br />
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It is a general phenomenon.  Thus the Turkish population, initially 100% Christian, had fallen to 30% Christian by 1900, and is 0.2% Christian today.<br />
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The methods referred to above compel the inhabitants of invaded countries either to become Muslims or to disappear.  In addition, within the Muslim populations themselves, the ideology imposes a certain type of society.<br />
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The first Islamic principle is the primacy of the collectivity, or 'Ouma'.  In that word, the radical 'oum' means the mother and 'ouma' means that Muslims should be to Islam as children are to their mother.  The primacy of the collectivity is the opposite of what goes on in our present-day societies.  Our view is that society is at the service of each person to help him or her to develop.  The collectivist view is that each person is at the service of the collectivity to establish its power.  That is one of the elements common to total socialism and Islam.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The second principle is the foundation of morals.  A Russian dissident said : what is morally right is what those in power declare to be right at present (it may change tomorrow, and morals will change tomorrow).  Islam means "submission" and Muslim "a submissive person".  Many Muslim intellectuals will tell you that it is only a question of submission to God.  But if you read the Koran, you will see that it says twenty or so times "obey God, obey the prophet" and once "obey the prophet" (without adding God).  But there is no verse that says only "obey God".  Again it says "obey God, obey his prophet, and those in authority", that is to say the caliph and his representatives.  The caliph is Allah's deputy, one must obey him, and his representatives, as one obeys God.  Submission is the basis of Muslim morals and it is also an element common to all totalitarian systems.</span><br />
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Yet another principle is the combat against anything that develops the ego.  One of the first factors that develop the ego is affectivity.  You are aware of some of the rules governing the statute of Muslim women, in particular polygamy.  A man may have four wives, but a woman may not have four husbands.  That is not all.  A man may have as many concubines as he wants, as long as they are not the wives of another Muslim.  If a woman has a lover, no matter whether he is a Muslim or not, she will be stoned to death.  In a court of law, it takes two women to have the same weight as one man.  When it comes to inheritance, a woman has only a half share.  A husband may repudiate his wife but a wife may not repudiate her husband.<br />
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The Muslim ideology is founded on the Koran, and on the hadiths, the words or acts of Mohammed.  There are a million and a half of them.  It would have taken him 600 years to utter them.  Everybody knows, including Muslims, that most of the hadiths are apocryphal.  There are, however, six compilations, containing 20,000 hadiths in all, that are held to be assuredly authentic.  Among those books there is one, compiled by the scholar Bukhari, that is considered to be particularly sure.  The Koran and the compilation by Bukhari are the only two books on which a Muslim can lay his hand to take an oath.<br />
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In the above compilation, Mohammed explains : "You know that women can give only a semi-testimony in a court of law, well, that is because of the inferiority of their intelligence".  He says that he had a vision of Hell.  There were principally women there.  He also says that there have been perfect men in history, but no perfect women.  Or again, taking up the Bible story in which Eve is supposed to have been created from one of Adam's ribs, "woman was made from a rib, she is bent like a rib;  if you try to straighten her, you will break her, so let her remain crooked and take your pleasure from her as from a crooked thing".  The conclusion is the Sunnite definition of marriage : "marriage is the contract by which one acquires a woman's genital organs with the intention of taking pleasure from them".<br />
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In such an ideology, it is difficult to respect a woman and to build a relationship of marital love.  It may happen from time to time, because men are not always completely subject to ideology, but there is massive social pressure to prevent it.  The destruction of affectivity and respect in the relationship between husband and wife is destructive of the ego, both for the man and for the woman.<br />
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In total socialisms, the destruction of affectivity was achieved through the encouragement of denunciation.  Anybody could inform against anybody.  You could trust neither your spouse, nor your parents, nor your children, nor your friends.  Soviet socialists had made a hero of Pavel Morozof, a boy of 14 who had denounced his father for protecting kulaks who had been condemned to death.  The father died in the Gulag.  Even today, in Moscow, the building where the Komsomols hold their meetings is called Morozof palace.  These mutual denunciations give rise to a system that destroys all mutual trust, which leads to the death of affectivity.<br />
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The combat against affectivity was complemented, in the early years of soviet socialism, by an attack on marriage Ã¢â¬â which did not last very long, but which was extremely violent.  In the flats built during the twenties, there was no kitchen so that people would be forced to have their meals in common.  In fact, they preferred to use Primus stoves so that they could have their meals as a family all the same.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Islam destroys affectivity by humiliating women, total socialisms do it by encouraging denunciation and hampering married life;  the means are a little different, but the result is the same.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Another means of destroying the ego is the combat against intelligence.  The way in which the contradictions in the Koran are dealt with shows the methods at work in Islam.  For example, a surah that Muslims are always quoting (verse 257 of surah 2) : "No constraint in religion" is in contradiction with another verse, known as the verse of the sword : "Massacre all heretics".  Mohammed had been asked how it was that two surahs that had come from Allah could contradict each other.  The answer is in surah 2, verse 100, and in surah 16, verses 104 and 105, which say that Allah is the master of the Koran; he does as he pleases with it.  When he replaces one verse by another, the newer one is better.  And those who consider Mohammed to be a falsifier will go to Hell.  The Koran is like a packet of circulars, the most recent of which cancels and replaces the previous ones on the same subject.  Thereby, all the moderate verses are cancelled by the violent ones, which came later.  In that case, the contradiction is settled, through a process whose validity may be questioned, but in other cases the contradiction is deliberately maintained.<br />
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A certain number of examples are given by the vice-chancellor of Al Azhar university in Cairo, the largest Muslim university.  There are taxes levied on the rich to provide money for the poor, and to conduct wars of conquest.  Wealth is determined according to the number of animals.  If you own five camels or more, you have to pay tax.  But you don't pay any for herds of horses, even if they comprise several thousand animals.<br />
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When a woman has her period, she has the right to fast, but not to pray.  Yet prayer is more important than fasting.<br />
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When a thief commits a petty theft, he has his hand cut off, because it was the instrument of his fault, but they do not punish a rapist or an adulterer by cutting off you-know-what.<br />
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There is a whole series of contradictions of this kind.  The vice-chancellor of Al Azhar explains that this is deliberate.  It is to show that Allah is not bound by logic.  Nor is he bound by morals.  If he had said that one should lie, then lying would be good.<br />
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Tabari, one of the greatest exegetes of the Koran, explains that anyone who approaches the Koran with his or her intelligence, and who is in the right, is nevertheless at fault : no one has the right to be right.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Islam rejects novelty, which it calls 'bida'.  Characteristically, the word means both what is new, and the moral fault consisting in doing or thinking something new.  This outlook renders progress impossible, especially in economy, with the result that most Muslim countries experience great poverty.  57 States belong to the Conference of Islamic States. </span> Their standard of living is 22 times lower than in Europe.  Of these 57 States, 8 are oil-producing and 3 are only partially Muslim : Turkey, which has been trying to be a secular country for 80 years, Lebanon, where the population is 45% Christian, and Malaysia, where 28% of the population is Chinese and 7% Indian.  Those three countries are six times richer than the others.  If you exclude the oil-producing States and the partially Muslim States, the rest, that is, nearly one thousand million people, have a standard of living 35 times lower than that of Europeans.  At such a degree it really means something.  The fundamental reason is the totalitarian nature of Islam, destructive of the ego.<br />
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Countries under total socialism have experienced the same poverty, for the same reason : damaged egos can no longer be creative, whether in economics, in the intellectual or artistic sphere, or in any field whatsoever.<br />
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I have had discussions with many Muslims and have explained to them that one cannot be a Muslim and a Frenchman at the same time.  If you are a Muslim, you say that woman is inferior, if you are French, you say she is equal. I have received the same answer umpteen times : according to one hadith, Paradise is under the feet of mothers, so women have a particular dignity which compensates their inferiority.  I would retort that this point of view reduces women to their reproductive function.  Furthermore, in that case, maiden girls, sterile women or women married to sterile men, have no dignity.<br />
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The above argument made no impact.  On the other hand, another would leave Muslim women and girls without an answer and very troubled : the French conception of relationships between men and women is equality, the Islamic conception is female inferiority compensated by a special dignity.  The woman who chooses equality is French, she who chooses compensated inferiority is not, even if compensated inferiority suits her personally.<br />
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In fact, 95% of those with whom I have debated believe themselves to be Muslim men or women, but they are not.  In all important matters they have made their choice, and their choice is to be French and not Muslim.  When you ask a girl, even wearing a veil to assert her identity, "Do you fancy having 3 co-wives?", she will answer passionately, "Oh! Out of the question!"<br />
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"Do you fancy your husband bringing concubines home?"<br />
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"Do you consider it normal that, as the Koran says, if your husband suspects you of thinking of disobeying, he has the right to beat you?"<br />
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"So you're not Muslims, you're French!"<br />
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"If you say that in Egypt, or elsewhere in DÃÂ¢r al Islam, at best you'll go to prison, at worst you'll be killed by your neighbour.  You can choose to reject part of the Koran because you live in France, where you have French and not Muslim rights.  Since you make use of those rights, you have chosen to be French, you are not a Muslim any more".<br />
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Each time you take a point on which the opposition between the French and Muslim views is irreducible, you find that all the women and most of the men are in fact French and not Muslim.<br />
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I do not believe Islam can last very long in the modern world.  I am told it has lasted 14 centuries, and that it will continue.  In 1980 people also said, "Communism has lasted 70 years, it will go on".  Then in 1989, Mitterand, who was an excellent seismograph of public opinion, said, 5 weeks before the fall of the Berlin wall, "The reunification of Germany is neither for this generation nor for this century".  He had seen nothing coming, despite his political sensibility, because the violence of the repression in countries under total socialism dissimulated the loss in conviction of their inhabitants.  Islam exerts the same repression against dissident opinions, which gives rise to the same dissimulation, but that does not prevent minds from secretly evolving.<br />
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As I was able to see in Lebanon and in Kabylia, there are three factors on which the modern world is radically opposed to the Muslim world, and those three factors will eventually bring about its downfall :<br />
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    <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">* Freedom.  Freedom to defend one's opinion, to change one's mind.  Muslims are demanding it more and more.  As they are in danger every time they demand it in a Muslim country, they do not do so very often, but the yearning is stronger and stronger.<br />
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    * Rationality.  The Koran, according to Muslims, was written by Allah before the founding of the world, in Arabic because Allah spoke Arabic with the angels.  Now Arabic has only existed for 2,000 years while the creation of the world goes back 14 billion years.  Confronted with that sort of improbability, a Muslim, even moderately cultivated, will answer, "We can't believe that!"<br />
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    * Affectivity.  Among the Kabyles, there are many conversions : about 5,000 per year.  They are converted by the American Baptists.  I asked several converts, "Why did you become Christian?".  The answer wasn't what I expected at all.  Freedom, that was secondary.  Rationality hardly bothered them for they were not great intellectuals.  The decisive factor for them was affectivity.  The Baptists organise prayer meetings,  Muslims come along to have a look, and they are taken by the affectivity that reigns in those meetings, between men, between women, between men and women.  From what they say, at Muslim gatherings there is comradeship, solidarity, but not the sort of affective warmth they find amongst Christians.<br />
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Affectivity is one of the foundations of the Western World.  Today 50% of marriages break up.  One has the impression that the institution is falling apart.  It is exactly the opposite.  For centuries marriage was based on the desire to have descendants and on social convenience.  When there was affection or love between the spouses, it was all the better.  Today, the ideal is marital love.  If love is not there, the couple separates.  That is radically incompatible with Islam.  The idea of marriage founded on personal choice and on marital love is incompatible with the woman's place in Islam.  That is the strongest pressure at work on Islam.<br />
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In Lebanon and in Kabylia at least, Islam finds itself in the position in which communism found itself in 1970.  I'm going to tell you an anecdote.  My wife, the founder, director and chief editor of a music magazine, had been invited to Poland along with 200 French journalists.  During a grand cocktail party, one of the ministers present told her, in quite good French, that she was an abominable capitalist and that she ought to be in the Gulag.  "Besides, you'll be there before long because the Soviet army can reach Brest in ten days".  Two minutes later another minister said to her, "Don't think Poles are stupid.  My colleague is the only communist amongst us.  All the others are ministers because it's pleasanter to be a minister than something else, but none of them believes in communism.  We know perfectly well that communism doesn't work "  I was very surprised that communist ministers should speak so freely to journalists and I calculated that the system was ripe for collapse.  It was holding out because of the administrative structures whose interest was to make the system last, but no one believed in it any more.<br />
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Islam today is in a similar position.  Its internal mental structure is caving in.  At any rate in Kabylia and in Lebanon.  And I don't think the political organisation can survive the downfall of its ideology for very long.<br />
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Today, Islam versus the Western World is like the fable of the clay pot against the iron pot, it has met more than its match : let us look at what those who are neither Muslims nor from the West are doing, that is to say the Indians, the Chinese, the Japanese etc.  I remember going to a concert about ten years ago, in Berlin.  The pianist was Japanese and wore a black western-style dress.  The conductor was Chinese and wore "tails".  I have never, anywhere on earth, seen a Chinese, Japanese or Indian person don a turban and a jellabah and intone an Islamic chant.  Nowadays, if you go to any country that is neither Islamic nor of the West and look at the architecture in the towns, at the town planning, at the methods applied in economy, at science, at technology and even at marriage, everything comes from the West.  When EugÃÂ©nie de Montijo married Napoleon III, she wore a white dress.  All the Parisian  girls copied her, French girls copied the Parisians, European girls copied the French.  Now the whole world gets married in a white dress.<br />
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As a whole, countries that are neither Islamic nor of the West, that is over 4 billion inhabitants, have adopted Western ways.  Islam has but a very weak power of conversion : it converts about one million people a year, essentially in black Africa, whereas the different variants of Christendom convert 10 million every year, essentially in the southern hemisphere.  When it comes to freedom, rationality, and especially affectivity, Islam has no capacity of assimilation into the modern world.  Moreover, Islam has been frozen for over a thousand years, whereas, at the instance of the West, the world today is experiencing the most rapid evolution in its history.<br />
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Islam has another weakness that is even more deadly : the way in which it was developed is beginning to become known.  People commonly believe that the history of the development of Islam and Mohammed's biography are quite well known.  That is not the case at all.<br />
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In the region where Islam developed, all the original documents, covering over two centuries, have disappeared.  The biography of Mohammed was written 220 years after his death, under the orders of a caliph.  The hadiths were written down between 250 and 300 years after the death of Mohammed.  The Koran was replaced several times, notably by general HajjÃÂ¢j, in 692, sixty years after the death of Mohammed, with the destruction of previous copies.<br />
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Islam in its early years extended over the Middle East, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, the most civilised region in the world at the time.  It had libraries, scribes' workshops, universities.  It is absolutely unnatural that all the original documents should have disappeared.  That can only be explained by a deliberate and methodical intervention by the political authorities.<br />
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A comparison with France at the same period is significant.  At that time there was no library, nor university, nor scribes' workshop, nor bookshop in France.  Yet those holding political power in France, Clothaire II and Dagobert I, left their traces in many a written document, and it is even more the case with their immediate successors, PÃÂ©pin de Heristal, Charles Martel, PÃÂ©pin le Bref, Charlemagne.  The prominent religious figures were bishops, Saint Ouen of Rouen, Saint Omer of ThÃÂ©rouane, Saint CÃÂ©saire of Arles, Sidouane Apollinaire of Clermont, Saint GrÃÂ©goire of Tours, Saint LÃÂ©ger of Autun, Saint Eloi of Noyon, etcÃ¢â¬Â¦They are well known.<br />
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Mohammed was both a political and religious figure.  Why did no original document about him remain, unless it was to cover up a story that was very different from that told by Muslim scholars?  As a famous specialist on Islam, Harald Motzki, says, either one makes a critical study of the sources of Islam and one does not write a history, or one does not make a critical study of the sources and one can write "stories".  Alfred-Louis de PrÃÂ©mare, professor at the university of Aix-en-Provence, a historian of the Arab-Islamic world, and a lecturer at the Institute of Research and Study on the Arab and Muslim world, adds, "Any biography of the prophet of Islam has as much value as a novel that one hopes is historical".<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Over the past ten years, the work of a number of researchers has made it possible to uncover texts written in Georgian, Armenian, Aramaic, Syriac, Hebrew or Coptic, that give information (a few sentences in books of several hundred pages) on what the Islam of the origins was.  The discoveries are surprising : Mohammed was never a Muslim, for the words Muslim and Islam appeared sixty years after the death of Mohammed.  His first companions called themselves the 'Magrayes', a Syro-Aramaic term meaning emigrants. Their holy language was Syro-Aramaic, not Arabic.  Mohammed was not born in Mecca, for the work of Patricia Crone, a specialist on Islam who teaches at Princeton and Cambridge, has shown that the town was founded around 670, forty years after the death of Mohammed.<br />
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Islam as we know it today is a fabrication by the caliphs, invented to serve as an ideology for the empire that Mohammed's companions had started building, and that his successors developed.  Mohammed's religion was Nazareism, a Judeo-Christian sect born in the Middle-East.  Nazareism could not serve as a binding agent for the empire they were setting up, on the one hand because it was not Arabic, while the Arab conquerors wanted a religion that would justify their pre-eminence over all other Muslims, on the other hand because Nazareism anticipated the return of Christ, who would come and take command of the Nazarene armies to conquer the world by force.  Since that had not happened, Nazareism had to be replaced by a religion that made no false prophecies.  The construction of the new religion out of material drawn from the earlier one and the obliteration of all trace of the earlier religion went on for over two centuries.  Hence the destruction of all written evidence of what had happened, and the construction by the caliphs in power of a sacred book in Arabic, an Arab prophet, and an Arab history that could be used as a basis for their ideology.<br />
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The enormous number of researchers in every field in the modern world, the use of new techniques in exegesis, archaeology, epigraphy, etc., the discovery of ancient, non-Muslim texts on the development of Islam, dating from 10 to 30 years after the event, and not from over 200 like the Islamic documents - all the above are leading people to question everything they thought they knew about the development of Islam.  It is unlikely that the Islamic religion and ideology will be able to withstand the destruction of their historical foundations by modern science.  <br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Account of the talk given by Jean-Jacques Walter on 16th February 2008 <br />
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One of the rules of Judeo-Christian civilisation is that the law is superior to power.  The most ancient demonstration of this is when David seduced Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite.  When David learnt that Bathsheba was pregnant, he didn't know how to explain it to Uriah, and had the latter killed so as not to have to answer for it.  David was punished by God, because king though he was, he had no right to kill his neighbour to take his wife : the law is above the king.  In the Old Testament, this story is presented as exemplary, but, in fact, it took 3000 years for that principle to become integrated into Christian societies.  Only two centuries ago, there was a legal principle in France, "Rex a legibus solutus est", in other words, he who lays down the law is above the law.  I remember a discussion I had ten years ago with a member of the Council of State.  He said to me, "Yes, of course, the State is subject to the law like anyone else, but it happens to be one step above".  That is exactly what Orwell remarked : "All men are equal, but some are more equal than others".<br />
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It took two thousand years for the principle of equality to be adopted by society as a whole.<br />
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When one analyses societies that have been shaped by an ideology, it is important to look closely at the ideology, because that is what enforces itself in the end, and eventually changes society.  This holds good for Islam.  What matters is its ideology and not the way in which it is embodied in different countries.  The wars between France and Islam are an example.  We always speak of Poitiers : "the Muslims were defeated at Poitiers and they left".  We are more or less consciously comparing it to other battles, for instance the battle of VouillÃÂ©, in 507 : Clovis defeated the Visigoths and Aquitaine became French.  That is not at all what happened with Islam.<br />
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The Muslims entered what was then France in 714.  They seized Narbonne, which became their base for the next 40 years, and carried out methodical raids.  They ravaged the Languedoc region from 714 to 725, destroyed NÃÂ®mes in 725 and devastated the right bank of the Rhone as far north as Sens.<br />
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In 721, a Muslim army of 100,000 soldiers laid siege to Toulouse, defended by Eudes, the duke of Aquitaine.  Charles Martel sent troops to help Eudes.  After six months' siege, the latter made a sally and crushed the Muslim army, which retreated in disarray to Spain and lost 80,000 soldiers in the campaign.  Little is said of the battle of Toulouse because Eudes was a Merovingian.  The Capetians were in the process of becoming kings of France and didn't fancy recognizing a Merovingian victory. <br />
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The Muslims concluded that it was dangerous to attack France from the eastern end of the Pyrenees, and they conducted their fresh attacks from the western end of the chain.  15,000 Muslim horsemen took and destroyed Bordeaux, then the Loire region, laid siege to Poitiers, and were finally stopped by Charles Martel and Eudes twenty kilometres north of Poitiers in 732.  The surviving Muslims broke up into small bands and continued to ravage Aquitaine.  Fresh soldiers would join them from time to time to take part in the looting.  Those bands were eventually eradicated only in 808, by Charlemagne.<br />
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The ravages in the east went on until, in 737, Charles Martel went south with a powerful army, successively regained possession of Avignon, NÃÂ®mes, Maguelone, Agde, BÃÂ©ziers, and laid siege to Narbonne.  A Saxon attack on the north of France compelled Charles Martel to leave the region.  Eventually, in 759, PÃÂ©pin le Bref regained possession of Narbonne and crushed the invaders definitively.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The latter broke up into small bands, as they had done in the west, and continued to devastate the country, notably by deporting the men to turn them into castrated slaves, and the women to introduce them into North African harems, where they were used to give birth to Muslims.  The bastion of these bands was at Fraxinetum, the present-day La Garde-Freinet.   An area of about 10,000 square kilometres, in the Maures massif, was totally depopulated.<br />
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In 972, the Muslim bands captured Mayeul, the Abbot of Cluny, on the road to Mount Geneva.  The event created an immense stir.  Guillaume II, count of Provence, spent 9 years conducting a sort of electoral campaign in order to motivate the inhabitants of Provence, then, from 983 onwards, methodically hunted down all the Muslim bands, small or large.  In 990, the last of them were destroyed.  They had devastated France for two centuries.<br />
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Muslim pressure did not cease for all that.  It was exerted over the following 250 years by raids carried out from the sea.  The men who were captured were taken to castration camps in Corsica, then deported to the forced labour prisons of DÃÂ¢r al Islam, and the women of nubile age to the harems.  The Muslim pirates' lairs were in Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, on the coasts of Spain and of North Africa.  Toulon was completely destroyed in 1178 and 1197, the population massacred or deported, the town left deserted.<br />
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Finally, the Muslims having been driven from Corsica, Sicily, Sardinia, from southern Italy and northern Spain, the attacks on French soil ceased but they continued at sea.  It was not until 1830, that France, exasperated by the exactions, made up its mind to go to Algeria in order to definitively destroy the last bastions of the Muslim pirates<br />
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What is striking is that between the years 714, the first incursion, and 1830, the final crushing of the Barbary pirates, there elapsed over a millennium.  Now no political organisation lasts for a thousand years.  How then was that endless war kept going for so long?<br />
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The active principle of the war was the same as that of the war waged by the Spaniards on their own soil, and which also lasted over one thousand years : ideology.  Only an ideology is lasting enough to give rise, century after century, to that sort of inexpiable war.  That is why, if you wish to understand Islam, you must study its ideology and not conduct an almost ethnological study of the different varieties of Islam. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> I repeat : its ideology;  because, for Muslim scholars, Islam is DÃÂ®n, Dunya, Daoula, i.e. religion, society, state.  Khomeiny used to say that 90% of Islamic rules are to do with civil society, and that, in an Islamic library, 90% of the books deal with society and the state, and only 10% with private morals and man's relationship with God.  The problem with Islam is not religion, it is the civil part of the ideology.<br />
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Islam is founded on the same structure as political totalitarian machines.  The most well known are the total socialisms of the 20th century, but if we delve deep into history, the Akkad dynasties, ancient China, the Incas etc. were totalitarian machines that have a certain number of elements in common with Islam.  To show up these elements, one only has to compare the main features of total socialisms with those of Islam.</span><br />
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Islam, like soviet socialism, is founded on a dual basis : on the one hand the ideological foundation, and on the other the imposition of that ideology through armed force.  The combination of the two is characteristic.  The earliest person to speak of this was Sima Qian, one of the greatest intellectuals in China, a historian, who was also prime minister.  As an intellectual and as prime minister, he was perfectly acquainted with a system based both on ideology and on violence.  In his letter to Jen An, which dates back to 91 B.C., he explains that, in such a system, there can be only two solutions :<br />
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But "the mask sticks to your face", as Sima Qian puts it.  The mask becomes your face and you become what you didn't want to be.  It may take a few years or a few generations, but it always happens.<br />
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Thus, according to Sima Qian, in a system founded both on force and on ideology, one can choose only between physical death and spiritual death.<br />
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That is precisely the structure of Islam, founded both on ideology and on the use of armed force.  I have already spoken of violence towards the exterior. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> One must add to that the interior violence that is exerted on the 'dhimmis'.  The term 'dhimmis' refers to peoples conquered by the Muslim armies, who lose all their political rights and the greater part of their civil rights, and who become foreigners in their own country.  They are driven to extinction by a combination of methods.</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Throughout antiquity, and right up until the second half of the 19th century, there were fluctuations in population due either to famines, or to epidemics, or to wars.  After each decline, the population would increase again until it reached its equilibrium, that is, the maximum number of people who could live on the land considering the agricultural techniques available.  The Muslims built new towns, Oran, Cordoba, Cairo, etc. while slaughtering or deporting the local populations, and peopling the towns with Arabs either from the Hedjaz region or from Syria.  At first, these immigrants were few in number.  In North Africa there were 5 million Berbers.  About 200,000 Arab-Muslims were brought in and established in areas that had been depopulated to that end.  The immigrant population grew to the maximum number tolerated by the agricultural production of the occupied areas, they then cut up the remaining land into strips that were depopulated one by one and given over to the expansion of the Arab-Muslims.  Each successive strip was small enough not to stir up a general revolt, but sufficient for the Arab-Muslims never to reach their demographic equilibrium, and to be able to continue their growth.<br />
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Alongside localized massacres in order to invade new areas, a fall in the birth rate was deliberately brought about among non-Muslims.  The latter, the 'dhimmis', had to wear a round yellow badge on dark clothes.  They could use only donkeys, lowly mounts, camels and horses, noble mounts, being reserved for Muslims.  Donkeys could only be mounted with a pack and not a saddle, in the country and not in town.  Dhimmis' houses had to be smaller in size than those of Muslims.  Many other provisions of a similar nature destroyed the dignity of dhimmis and lessened their self-confidence, whence a drop in their birth rate and their progressive extinction.<br />
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The fall in the birth rate, massacres and conversions under coercion were the means which, in invaded countries, gradually brought about what Bat Ye'or calls a demographic reversal. There were 200,000 Muslims to 5 million Berbers at the start of the Muslim invasion.  After 8 wars, and three centuries of the above methods being applied, there were 1% Berbers left in Tunisia, 10% in Algeria, where they were driven into Kabylia, about 35 to 40% in Morocco, where they were driven into the Atlas and Riff regions, each time infertile mountainous lands.<br />
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It is a general phenomenon.  Thus the Turkish population, initially 100% Christian, had fallen to 30% Christian by 1900, and is 0.2% Christian today.<br />
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The methods referred to above compel the inhabitants of invaded countries either to become Muslims or to disappear.  In addition, within the Muslim populations themselves, the ideology imposes a certain type of society.<br />
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The first Islamic principle is the primacy of the collectivity, or 'Ouma'.  In that word, the radical 'oum' means the mother and 'ouma' means that Muslims should be to Islam as children are to their mother.  The primacy of the collectivity is the opposite of what goes on in our present-day societies.  Our view is that society is at the service of each person to help him or her to develop.  The collectivist view is that each person is at the service of the collectivity to establish its power.  That is one of the elements common to total socialism and Islam.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The second principle is the foundation of morals.  A Russian dissident said : what is morally right is what those in power declare to be right at present (it may change tomorrow, and morals will change tomorrow).  Islam means "submission" and Muslim "a submissive person".  Many Muslim intellectuals will tell you that it is only a question of submission to God.  But if you read the Koran, you will see that it says twenty or so times "obey God, obey the prophet" and once "obey the prophet" (without adding God).  But there is no verse that says only "obey God".  Again it says "obey God, obey his prophet, and those in authority", that is to say the caliph and his representatives.  The caliph is Allah's deputy, one must obey him, and his representatives, as one obeys God.  Submission is the basis of Muslim morals and it is also an element common to all totalitarian systems.</span><br />
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Yet another principle is the combat against anything that develops the ego.  One of the first factors that develop the ego is affectivity.  You are aware of some of the rules governing the statute of Muslim women, in particular polygamy.  A man may have four wives, but a woman may not have four husbands.  That is not all.  A man may have as many concubines as he wants, as long as they are not the wives of another Muslim.  If a woman has a lover, no matter whether he is a Muslim or not, she will be stoned to death.  In a court of law, it takes two women to have the same weight as one man.  When it comes to inheritance, a woman has only a half share.  A husband may repudiate his wife but a wife may not repudiate her husband.<br />
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The Muslim ideology is founded on the Koran, and on the hadiths, the words or acts of Mohammed.  There are a million and a half of them.  It would have taken him 600 years to utter them.  Everybody knows, including Muslims, that most of the hadiths are apocryphal.  There are, however, six compilations, containing 20,000 hadiths in all, that are held to be assuredly authentic.  Among those books there is one, compiled by the scholar Bukhari, that is considered to be particularly sure.  The Koran and the compilation by Bukhari are the only two books on which a Muslim can lay his hand to take an oath.<br />
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In the above compilation, Mohammed explains : "You know that women can give only a semi-testimony in a court of law, well, that is because of the inferiority of their intelligence".  He says that he had a vision of Hell.  There were principally women there.  He also says that there have been perfect men in history, but no perfect women.  Or again, taking up the Bible story in which Eve is supposed to have been created from one of Adam's ribs, "woman was made from a rib, she is bent like a rib;  if you try to straighten her, you will break her, so let her remain crooked and take your pleasure from her as from a crooked thing".  The conclusion is the Sunnite definition of marriage : "marriage is the contract by which one acquires a woman's genital organs with the intention of taking pleasure from them".<br />
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In such an ideology, it is difficult to respect a woman and to build a relationship of marital love.  It may happen from time to time, because men are not always completely subject to ideology, but there is massive social pressure to prevent it.  The destruction of affectivity and respect in the relationship between husband and wife is destructive of the ego, both for the man and for the woman.<br />
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In total socialisms, the destruction of affectivity was achieved through the encouragement of denunciation.  Anybody could inform against anybody.  You could trust neither your spouse, nor your parents, nor your children, nor your friends.  Soviet socialists had made a hero of Pavel Morozof, a boy of 14 who had denounced his father for protecting kulaks who had been condemned to death.  The father died in the Gulag.  Even today, in Moscow, the building where the Komsomols hold their meetings is called Morozof palace.  These mutual denunciations give rise to a system that destroys all mutual trust, which leads to the death of affectivity.<br />
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The combat against affectivity was complemented, in the early years of soviet socialism, by an attack on marriage Ã¢â¬â which did not last very long, but which was extremely violent.  In the flats built during the twenties, there was no kitchen so that people would be forced to have their meals in common.  In fact, they preferred to use Primus stoves so that they could have their meals as a family all the same.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Islam destroys affectivity by humiliating women, total socialisms do it by encouraging denunciation and hampering married life;  the means are a little different, but the result is the same.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Another means of destroying the ego is the combat against intelligence.  The way in which the contradictions in the Koran are dealt with shows the methods at work in Islam.  For example, a surah that Muslims are always quoting (verse 257 of surah 2) : "No constraint in religion" is in contradiction with another verse, known as the verse of the sword : "Massacre all heretics".  Mohammed had been asked how it was that two surahs that had come from Allah could contradict each other.  The answer is in surah 2, verse 100, and in surah 16, verses 104 and 105, which say that Allah is the master of the Koran; he does as he pleases with it.  When he replaces one verse by another, the newer one is better.  And those who consider Mohammed to be a falsifier will go to Hell.  The Koran is like a packet of circulars, the most recent of which cancels and replaces the previous ones on the same subject.  Thereby, all the moderate verses are cancelled by the violent ones, which came later.  In that case, the contradiction is settled, through a process whose validity may be questioned, but in other cases the contradiction is deliberately maintained.<br />
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A certain number of examples are given by the vice-chancellor of Al Azhar university in Cairo, the largest Muslim university.  There are taxes levied on the rich to provide money for the poor, and to conduct wars of conquest.  Wealth is determined according to the number of animals.  If you own five camels or more, you have to pay tax.  But you don't pay any for herds of horses, even if they comprise several thousand animals.<br />
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When a woman has her period, she has the right to fast, but not to pray.  Yet prayer is more important than fasting.<br />
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When a thief commits a petty theft, he has his hand cut off, because it was the instrument of his fault, but they do not punish a rapist or an adulterer by cutting off you-know-what.<br />
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There is a whole series of contradictions of this kind.  The vice-chancellor of Al Azhar explains that this is deliberate.  It is to show that Allah is not bound by logic.  Nor is he bound by morals.  If he had said that one should lie, then lying would be good.<br />
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Tabari, one of the greatest exegetes of the Koran, explains that anyone who approaches the Koran with his or her intelligence, and who is in the right, is nevertheless at fault : no one has the right to be right.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Islam rejects novelty, which it calls 'bida'.  Characteristically, the word means both what is new, and the moral fault consisting in doing or thinking something new.  This outlook renders progress impossible, especially in economy, with the result that most Muslim countries experience great poverty.  57 States belong to the Conference of Islamic States. </span> Their standard of living is 22 times lower than in Europe.  Of these 57 States, 8 are oil-producing and 3 are only partially Muslim : Turkey, which has been trying to be a secular country for 80 years, Lebanon, where the population is 45% Christian, and Malaysia, where 28% of the population is Chinese and 7% Indian.  Those three countries are six times richer than the others.  If you exclude the oil-producing States and the partially Muslim States, the rest, that is, nearly one thousand million people, have a standard of living 35 times lower than that of Europeans.  At such a degree it really means something.  The fundamental reason is the totalitarian nature of Islam, destructive of the ego.<br />
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Countries under total socialism have experienced the same poverty, for the same reason : damaged egos can no longer be creative, whether in economics, in the intellectual or artistic sphere, or in any field whatsoever.<br />
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I have had discussions with many Muslims and have explained to them that one cannot be a Muslim and a Frenchman at the same time.  If you are a Muslim, you say that woman is inferior, if you are French, you say she is equal. I have received the same answer umpteen times : according to one hadith, Paradise is under the feet of mothers, so women have a particular dignity which compensates their inferiority.  I would retort that this point of view reduces women to their reproductive function.  Furthermore, in that case, maiden girls, sterile women or women married to sterile men, have no dignity.<br />
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The above argument made no impact.  On the other hand, another would leave Muslim women and girls without an answer and very troubled : the French conception of relationships between men and women is equality, the Islamic conception is female inferiority compensated by a special dignity.  The woman who chooses equality is French, she who chooses compensated inferiority is not, even if compensated inferiority suits her personally.<br />
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In fact, 95% of those with whom I have debated believe themselves to be Muslim men or women, but they are not.  In all important matters they have made their choice, and their choice is to be French and not Muslim.  When you ask a girl, even wearing a veil to assert her identity, "Do you fancy having 3 co-wives?", she will answer passionately, "Oh! Out of the question!"<br />
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"Do you fancy your husband bringing concubines home?"<br />
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"Do you consider it normal that, as the Koran says, if your husband suspects you of thinking of disobeying, he has the right to beat you?"<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">In France, you have the right to think what you like, and to change your convictions if you feel like it.  In Islam (surah 4, verse 91), a person who ceases to be a Muslim must be put to death.  The first time I said that in a talk, a Muslim got up and shouted, "That's not true!"  Now I take a copy of the Koran  to talks, and show people the verse.  And they say to me, "Well, we don't accept that".<br />
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"So you're not Muslims, you're French!"<br />
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"If you say that in Egypt, or elsewhere in DÃÂ¢r al Islam, at best you'll go to prison, at worst you'll be killed by your neighbour.  You can choose to reject part of the Koran because you live in France, where you have French and not Muslim rights.  Since you make use of those rights, you have chosen to be French, you are not a Muslim any more".<br />
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Each time you take a point on which the opposition between the French and Muslim views is irreducible, you find that all the women and most of the men are in fact French and not Muslim.<br />
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I do not believe Islam can last very long in the modern world.  I am told it has lasted 14 centuries, and that it will continue.  In 1980 people also said, "Communism has lasted 70 years, it will go on".  Then in 1989, Mitterand, who was an excellent seismograph of public opinion, said, 5 weeks before the fall of the Berlin wall, "The reunification of Germany is neither for this generation nor for this century".  He had seen nothing coming, despite his political sensibility, because the violence of the repression in countries under total socialism dissimulated the loss in conviction of their inhabitants.  Islam exerts the same repression against dissident opinions, which gives rise to the same dissimulation, but that does not prevent minds from secretly evolving.<br />
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As I was able to see in Lebanon and in Kabylia, there are three factors on which the modern world is radically opposed to the Muslim world, and those three factors will eventually bring about its downfall :<br />
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    <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">* Freedom.  Freedom to defend one's opinion, to change one's mind.  Muslims are demanding it more and more.  As they are in danger every time they demand it in a Muslim country, they do not do so very often, but the yearning is stronger and stronger.<br />
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    * Rationality.  The Koran, according to Muslims, was written by Allah before the founding of the world, in Arabic because Allah spoke Arabic with the angels.  Now Arabic has only existed for 2,000 years while the creation of the world goes back 14 billion years.  Confronted with that sort of improbability, a Muslim, even moderately cultivated, will answer, "We can't believe that!"<br />
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    * Affectivity.  Among the Kabyles, there are many conversions : about 5,000 per year.  They are converted by the American Baptists.  I asked several converts, "Why did you become Christian?".  The answer wasn't what I expected at all.  Freedom, that was secondary.  Rationality hardly bothered them for they were not great intellectuals.  The decisive factor for them was affectivity.  The Baptists organise prayer meetings,  Muslims come along to have a look, and they are taken by the affectivity that reigns in those meetings, between men, between women, between men and women.  From what they say, at Muslim gatherings there is comradeship, solidarity, but not the sort of affective warmth they find amongst Christians.<br />
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Affectivity is one of the foundations of the Western World.  Today 50% of marriages break up.  One has the impression that the institution is falling apart.  It is exactly the opposite.  For centuries marriage was based on the desire to have descendants and on social convenience.  When there was affection or love between the spouses, it was all the better.  Today, the ideal is marital love.  If love is not there, the couple separates.  That is radically incompatible with Islam.  The idea of marriage founded on personal choice and on marital love is incompatible with the woman's place in Islam.  That is the strongest pressure at work on Islam.<br />
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In Lebanon and in Kabylia at least, Islam finds itself in the position in which communism found itself in 1970.  I'm going to tell you an anecdote.  My wife, the founder, director and chief editor of a music magazine, had been invited to Poland along with 200 French journalists.  During a grand cocktail party, one of the ministers present told her, in quite good French, that she was an abominable capitalist and that she ought to be in the Gulag.  "Besides, you'll be there before long because the Soviet army can reach Brest in ten days".  Two minutes later another minister said to her, "Don't think Poles are stupid.  My colleague is the only communist amongst us.  All the others are ministers because it's pleasanter to be a minister than something else, but none of them believes in communism.  We know perfectly well that communism doesn't work "  I was very surprised that communist ministers should speak so freely to journalists and I calculated that the system was ripe for collapse.  It was holding out because of the administrative structures whose interest was to make the system last, but no one believed in it any more.<br />
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Islam today is in a similar position.  Its internal mental structure is caving in.  At any rate in Kabylia and in Lebanon.  And I don't think the political organisation can survive the downfall of its ideology for very long.<br />
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Today, Islam versus the Western World is like the fable of the clay pot against the iron pot, it has met more than its match : let us look at what those who are neither Muslims nor from the West are doing, that is to say the Indians, the Chinese, the Japanese etc.  I remember going to a concert about ten years ago, in Berlin.  The pianist was Japanese and wore a black western-style dress.  The conductor was Chinese and wore "tails".  I have never, anywhere on earth, seen a Chinese, Japanese or Indian person don a turban and a jellabah and intone an Islamic chant.  Nowadays, if you go to any country that is neither Islamic nor of the West and look at the architecture in the towns, at the town planning, at the methods applied in economy, at science, at technology and even at marriage, everything comes from the West.  When EugÃÂ©nie de Montijo married Napoleon III, she wore a white dress.  All the Parisian  girls copied her, French girls copied the Parisians, European girls copied the French.  Now the whole world gets married in a white dress.<br />
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As a whole, countries that are neither Islamic nor of the West, that is over 4 billion inhabitants, have adopted Western ways.  Islam has but a very weak power of conversion : it converts about one million people a year, essentially in black Africa, whereas the different variants of Christendom convert 10 million every year, essentially in the southern hemisphere.  When it comes to freedom, rationality, and especially affectivity, Islam has no capacity of assimilation into the modern world.  Moreover, Islam has been frozen for over a thousand years, whereas, at the instance of the West, the world today is experiencing the most rapid evolution in its history.<br />
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Islam has another weakness that is even more deadly : the way in which it was developed is beginning to become known.  People commonly believe that the history of the development of Islam and Mohammed's biography are quite well known.  That is not the case at all.<br />
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In the region where Islam developed, all the original documents, covering over two centuries, have disappeared.  The biography of Mohammed was written 220 years after his death, under the orders of a caliph.  The hadiths were written down between 250 and 300 years after the death of Mohammed.  The Koran was replaced several times, notably by general HajjÃÂ¢j, in 692, sixty years after the death of Mohammed, with the destruction of previous copies.<br />
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Islam in its early years extended over the Middle East, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, the most civilised region in the world at the time.  It had libraries, scribes' workshops, universities.  It is absolutely unnatural that all the original documents should have disappeared.  That can only be explained by a deliberate and methodical intervention by the political authorities.<br />
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A comparison with France at the same period is significant.  At that time there was no library, nor university, nor scribes' workshop, nor bookshop in France.  Yet those holding political power in France, Clothaire II and Dagobert I, left their traces in many a written document, and it is even more the case with their immediate successors, PÃÂ©pin de Heristal, Charles Martel, PÃÂ©pin le Bref, Charlemagne.  The prominent religious figures were bishops, Saint Ouen of Rouen, Saint Omer of ThÃÂ©rouane, Saint CÃÂ©saire of Arles, Sidouane Apollinaire of Clermont, Saint GrÃÂ©goire of Tours, Saint LÃÂ©ger of Autun, Saint Eloi of Noyon, etcÃ¢â¬Â¦They are well known.<br />
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Mohammed was both a political and religious figure.  Why did no original document about him remain, unless it was to cover up a story that was very different from that told by Muslim scholars?  As a famous specialist on Islam, Harald Motzki, says, either one makes a critical study of the sources of Islam and one does not write a history, or one does not make a critical study of the sources and one can write "stories".  Alfred-Louis de PrÃÂ©mare, professor at the university of Aix-en-Provence, a historian of the Arab-Islamic world, and a lecturer at the Institute of Research and Study on the Arab and Muslim world, adds, "Any biography of the prophet of Islam has as much value as a novel that one hopes is historical".<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Over the past ten years, the work of a number of researchers has made it possible to uncover texts written in Georgian, Armenian, Aramaic, Syriac, Hebrew or Coptic, that give information (a few sentences in books of several hundred pages) on what the Islam of the origins was.  The discoveries are surprising : Mohammed was never a Muslim, for the words Muslim and Islam appeared sixty years after the death of Mohammed.  His first companions called themselves the 'Magrayes', a Syro-Aramaic term meaning emigrants. Their holy language was Syro-Aramaic, not Arabic.  Mohammed was not born in Mecca, for the work of Patricia Crone, a specialist on Islam who teaches at Princeton and Cambridge, has shown that the town was founded around 670, forty years after the death of Mohammed.<br />
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Islam as we know it today is a fabrication by the caliphs, invented to serve as an ideology for the empire that Mohammed's companions had started building, and that his successors developed.  Mohammed's religion was Nazareism, a Judeo-Christian sect born in the Middle-East.  Nazareism could not serve as a binding agent for the empire they were setting up, on the one hand because it was not Arabic, while the Arab conquerors wanted a religion that would justify their pre-eminence over all other Muslims, on the other hand because Nazareism anticipated the return of Christ, who would come and take command of the Nazarene armies to conquer the world by force.  Since that had not happened, Nazareism had to be replaced by a religion that made no false prophecies.  The construction of the new religion out of material drawn from the earlier one and the obliteration of all trace of the earlier religion went on for over two centuries.  Hence the destruction of all written evidence of what had happened, and the construction by the caliphs in power of a sacred book in Arabic, an Arab prophet, and an Arab history that could be used as a basis for their ideology.<br />
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The enormous number of researchers in every field in the modern world, the use of new techniques in exegesis, archaeology, epigraphy, etc., the discovery of ancient, non-Muslim texts on the development of Islam, dating from 10 to 30 years after the event, and not from over 200 like the Islamic documents - all the above are leading people to question everything they thought they knew about the development of Islam.  It is unlikely that the Islamic religion and ideology will be able to withstand the destruction of their historical foundations by modern science.  <br />
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			<description><![CDATA[Like we explored the connections &amp; Nexus in Media and their anti-national attitudes, we should also document political power play by anti-hindu academicians, Funding bodies etc. <br />
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Recently in a history group there was a mail on the book written by well known Indian Marxist in a US university.<br />
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One Hindu Scholar has written a very good review on that book showing the amount of mistakes in that book and what kind of trash it is. Then a historian from India said we donÃ¢â¬â¢t have to take these kinds of anti-Hindu scholars seriously and rebut them. He felt that by reacting to this Ã¢â¬Ånut case (XXX)Ã¢â¬Â, we are providing legitimacy to them which we must resist at all cost.<br />
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Then three prominent scholars objected to this Ã¢â¬ÅignoringÃ¢â¬Â and said why Hindus must take put these issues:<br />
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1) TRAINING: we have too little rather too much competent criticism of the others. This competence takes many years to develop; it needs encouragement and not a flippant dismissal. the skills developed as a solid critic are highly portable and can be deployed later on other targets. If one observes how the Indian youth are being brainwashed on campuses by Marxists-Islamists-crypto Christians, one would learn the merit in such approaches that start with simpler, less prominent targets first. So my first reason to encourage this is that it is a training vehicle both for the scholar doing it as well as for the readers who tend to be rather naive and ignorant most of the time. <br />
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2) POWER STRUCTURE/HIERARCHY OF THEIR ARMY: To locate XXX in the big picture, one must understand the whole establishment of institutions that dominate knowledge production, distribution and retailing about civilizations, religions, nations, etc. XXX is a middle ranking officer along with other middle ranking officers like Angana Chatterji, Vijay Prashad and many more I could list. The senior officials like Romila Thapar, Irfan Habib, etc. based in India and several whites and Indians based overseas have many decades of expertise in maturing their collaborations, and networks of influence. They skillfully tap into funding sources, media to promote their books and spread their ideas, school education textbook writers, government policymakers, human rights activists in NGOs, etc. But they rely upon the middle rank to continue the work of producing more brainwashed young scholars. After all, Thapar types are not always active as teachers and even if they are, they know they have limited time ahead. So they groom others like these middle ranks to take over the teaching burden to ensure that the next gen will follow in their ideologies. <br />
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XXX has to be studied as it is such folks who will occupy prestigious chairs one day. Already they occupy various committees that make selections: from hiring, to papers selected, to conference attendees invited. When a US University was selecting the replacement of the Chair of Indian History, it was XXX on the selection committee who was championing the hiring of the most radical Marxist Indian historians possible. (This is duty for their version of sangha.) This time around (but probably not in the future) the benefactor was able to intervene and convince the authorities to bend their academic "isolation" and get a person who would be less anti-India. They got such a person - who I am told is somewhat less virulent but still very much into the theory of "foreigners brought everything useful to India". There are more young students today per annum being influenced by these middle rank folks than by the top tier generals of their army. Some of these middle rankers are vying to advance their careers, and for this they need to be seen in a certain light, and they also need to constantly kiss the right asses. It is a career club of sorts. This is not different than the behavior of the diehard religious activists I have observed. The difference is that the club XXX belongs to has control over the institutional mechanisms that are critical to assert power in society - school education, higher education, media, policymaking think tanks, human rights NGOs, and funding mechanisms. Unfortunately, most Hindus I come across are living in some lofty space in the clouds, dismissive of the importance of these institutional mechanisms. They trivialize what they truly donÃ¢â¬â¢t even know about. <br />
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3) MULTIPLE THEORETICAL FRAMEWORKS: Too many Indian scholars fail to understand the fine distinctions among various kinds of ideologies, and simplistically lump them as "west" or "Christian". The fact is that XXX is very anti-western and anti-white. He champions Ward Churchill, a part Native American, who led the angry anti-white rhetoric, which exaggerated some facts and got denounced. So when it comes to Indian vs. British, XXX will support Indians and hence Hindu. But when it comes to Hindu vs. Muslim issues, he is clearly on the Muslim side. This genre of postcolonialism consists of attacking colonialism, but not replacing it with an indigenous Indian civilization as their foundation, and instead valorizing the Mughal period. You will find this in the work of Sugata Bose even when he is not coauthoring with his Pakistani girlfriend, Ayesha Jalal. XXX is a mild Nehruvian and calls himself a Gandhian although his "Gandhianism" is naive - things like not owning a cell phone as a rejection of modernity but ok to use email. These mixed up folks use symbols, name dropping, who/what they show anger against, what events they attend - all this as a "profile portfolio" to project their intellectual identity within their system. The relationship with postmodernism is paradoxical and contradictory just like postmodernism itself. Western liberals invented postmodernism as a way to reject their past (both the Biblical era and the Enlightenment era that had replaced it). This was supposed to end all power structures of every kind in every discipline and domain. But recently the trend in western academics of theorizing is to reject postmodernism, seeing it as a sort of silly idealism and potentially a dangerous kind. It failed in its goal to deconstruct power (because it got co-opted by the very same power nexuses) and served as a cover for new kinds of power structures. But meanwhile, it is the fashion probe bandwagon of Indians who have downloaded the postmodern thought and turned it into their career ideology. XXX is one of these along with his mentor, Ashis Nandy. So while fighting western hegemony and whiteness (by equating it to modernity, hence the Gandhian symbolism in his portfolio), these Indians enter whiteness through a different and trendier door, namely postmodernism. I call it Postmodernism Whiteness. <br />
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So XXX's internal contradictions stem from wanting to believe that postmodernism is truly beyond civilizational grand narratives just because it says so and also because a few Indians have been admitted in as "theorists" such as Gaytri Spivak and Homi Bhabha (Harvard Humanities Dept and not the great Physicist). My point here is that folks who critique these kinds of books should be encouraged to go even deeper into their examination of people like XXX, because once you open the door to enter into their minds; there is no reason to stop after a simple analysis. Once you go deeper, their whole system of thinking and its history and relationships with power gets revealed. (People are also working on a book on this history of whiteness and its morphing into postmodern theories, which locates the "White Indians.") <br />
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4) BLINDNESS: A frequent topic of my arguments has been on assertions that "Indology is dead" and that "we won," which sends the implicit message that now "we can go home and relax". I have pointed out that the term Indology got replaced by South Asian studies; the empire that studied India most intensely has transferred from London to Washington; the CONCLUSIONS of what was once Indology have spread like a metastasized cancer into many other fields like religion, anthropology, history, political science, human rights, etc. This stealth Indology is far more dangerous because its mechanisms for spreading are hidden under various disciplines. See any textbook or even a modern western Sanskrit thesis and you see the signature of Aryan invasion/migration theories all over. The same ideological postures exist far more dangerously today. So itÃ¢â¬â¢s wrong to discourage whatever little energy we have in terms of mounting a counter discourse. Let them not finish us off so easily due to our own foolishness. <br />
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What goes unchallenged turns cancerous. If already cancerous it metastasizes and starts to spread. If its already metastasized it spreads faster unchallenged. So no matter what stage a given tumor might be in, it needs to be confronted and challenged. Even when the challenge seems feeble, it will give fodder to other challengers. In places like amazon.com such negative (but intelligent) remarks do dissuade usage of the books by the vast segment of undecided, the vacillators, the folks who want to be fair, etc. but who are simply uninformed. ItÃ¢â¬â¢s like a parliament that consists of members who are 100% from one party, but suddenly a dissenting voice appears. This voice cannot overrule the power structure, but its ability to make the system self conscious does have an effect. There are bound to be those who start to be less blatant in their bias just because someone is watching. <br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Scholar 2:</span><br />
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Not just the book of XXX, even in Wendy Doniger's new book, one can see how the power structures discussed by Scholar 1 below play out. If you see the bibliography of her chapters, she has largely referred to people of 'her school'; Marxist historians; and other partners in 'the good fight' (to use her phrase). It is all about creating and leveraging alliances. She is no fool, or else she would not be today where she is right now. <br />
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A quick look at the Worldcat shows that already more than 300 libraries in the US and Europe have purchased her book. If that books goes unchallenged, you can be assured that it will be used as an 'introductory text on Hinduism' very soon. There is an Indian reprint for a mere Rs 500 available already. The urban Hindus who know nothing about our heritage will lap all that she drools. We all know what will happen then. <br />
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If nothing, our opposition to such books raises the stakes and discourages at least some potential Hindu baiters from writing such nonsense in future. And the controversy generated is a great way to enlighten our own people about the true foundations of our Dharma. <br />
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A very important point that is made below is that all these Hindu and India baiters train ARMIES of students every year. I personally met a lady whose son attended a class by Vinay Lal (a Marxist in UCLA). Initially, he was taken aback but soon, he started agreeing to what Lal said. Lals and Donigers lead their students through a tunneling of vision phenomenon and unless we break this spell, they will not see the truth. One only needs to go to ANY Indian gathering comprising of the normal crowd (not just the Sangh followers) and you will be shocked how much the average Indian has been brainwashed. So we cannot live in this fantasy world and say that people like XXX do not matter. Yes, they do. And unfortunately, they probably matter more than us right now. So we have a good task cut out for us for our lifetimes. <br />
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As the Shringeri Shankaracharya once said to me - If Lord Vishnu Himself leaves his state of eternal Kaivalya and incarnates to fight evil, is it not our duty too to fight what is wrong tooth and nail? <br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Scholar 3:</span><br />
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I understand and sympathize with your interpretation of XXX political motivations, but I do believe there is somewhat more to this story. It is important to recognize that he and his ilk have come to regard Islam as being in the forefront of anti-imperialism, particularly Israeli-American, in which they regard 'Hindu India' complicit. Of course the notion of Hindu India is an absurdity unless one is willing to accept the most visceral Pakistani-Bangladeshi commentary on the nature of India, itself rooted in 19th century sub continental Islamic sectarianism. Interestingly, XXX and his academic kin are unwilling to make direct criticism of 'Islamic regimes' (because they rarely criticize anything Islamic) that the Jihadis, with who they are in sympathy, oppose. But most glaringly, they absolutely refuse to recognize the brutal imperialist agenda of Islamic Jihadis themselves. And even more shockingly, XXX and most Leftist supporters of supposed Islamic resistance to Western imperialism ignore any atrocities Muslim Jihadis commit against innocent non Muslims or indeed Muslims (e.g. the callous killings of Shias in Pakistan by Saudi-inspired Sunnis). Thus Taslima's banishment from Kolkata/India elicited no protest (though one major Leftist writer, Mahasweta-devi, denounced the communists for it) nor the routine kidnapping, rape and the forced marriage of Hindu girls in Bangladesh and various parts of Pakistan. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
It is pertinent to note that the Anglo-American war against militant Islamic groups is of very recent origin, indeed less than a decade old. Earlier these murderous Islamist Islamists were very much part of the Western arsenal against Arab nationalism, the USSR (until the early 1990s and later in Chechnya because of its near monopoly of oil pipelines to the West) and other assorted regimes, like India disliked by the West. Indian Leftists have always been part of this political dispensation though its implications were not rendered explicit and barely recognized by protagonists of Hindutva, who have never had the intellectual equipment to see beyond their noses. It is important to recall that this political dispensation was also pro-Chinese and therefore willing partners of their Western ally, the USA, which, incidentally, renewed the integrity of China's nuclear defenses in the mid-1970s (to avert a possible preemptive Soviet nuclear strike) and <br />
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then helped Pakistan emerge as a nuclear power and exporter of weapons technology (all the evidence now public). These three parties, Indian Leftists, China and the US, also came together to support the genocide in Bangladesh in 1971. <br />
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<br />
Indian Leftist access to academic positions in US and British universities has been significantly predicated on the intercession of foreign policy and intelligence agencies (and their academic levies within universities) determined to undermine Indian political legitimacy (they cursed Nehru and Indira Gandhi much more venomously than any Hindutva target) through a non stop critique of all its 'devilish works', thereby validating Pakistani claims of victimhood. The likes of Sugata Bose (with and without Ayesha Jalal) his brother at the LSE (persistent critic of Indian policy in Kashmir) and cousin Sharmila at Oxford (denies the Pakistani army committed mass rape in East Pakistan in 1971) issue a constant patter of delegitimizing against India. I have just read a piece by Professor Dipesh Chakravarty, colleague of the two Chicago University harridans, Doniger and Nussbaum, cynically denouncing Indian nationalist historical writing by insinuating a Hindutva pedigree for it. Nowhere does he cite the implied specifics of distortion by them except to name Romila Thapar and Sumit Sarkar (a genuine low life himself) as some sort of irrefutable evidential iconography to supposedly clinch the argument; he only emerges as a low life as well as a result, which a Chicago chair in the heart of the imperialist monster cannot obviate! <br />
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The CPM and its Muslim vote bank are very important explanatory variables too because the communists understood that without Muslims votes they were nothing in West Bengal and Kerala, the only bases of their political power in India. They ensured through myriad party institutions that the Leftist intelligentsia understood this stark reality. As a result, the pro-communist 'intelligentsia' eschewed all questioning of Islam and provided the cultural and intellectual rationale for the victimhood of Muslims and the portrayal of an alleged converse fascism of Brahminnical Hinduism. From Romila Thapar and the two JNU Patnaiks to Amiya Bagchi and Joya Chatterji and countless other acolytes, never has a word of criticism been uttered against Islam. And the non CPM Leftist Indian intelligentsia was intellectually overawed and also depended on the party mandarins, holding crucial academic and bureaucratic offices, for their own careers. And a whole climate of anti-Hindu propaganda took root in which a Leftist identity by became the norm for a large number of university students. And evangelical Christians also supported this insidious campaign (just look at the newer Christian evangelical websites) because doing down Hindus was their first port of call. <br />
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But bear in mind that Hindus across the board (including of late Baba Ramdev and Sir Sri) confronted by an implacable Islam have sought to accommodate. Gandhi was only an extreme version of the phenomenon, which is shared even by the RSS, judging by its forlorn efforts to reach some sort of reconciliation with it. R.K. Ohri judges this cowardly Hindu impulse as a product of fear due to prolonged subjugation and constant brutal punishment, floggings, torture and painful deaths.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Like we explored the connections &amp; Nexus in Media and their anti-national attitudes, we should also document political power play by anti-hindu academicians, Funding bodies etc. <br />
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Recently in a history group there was a mail on the book written by well known Indian Marxist in a US university.<br />
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One Hindu Scholar has written a very good review on that book showing the amount of mistakes in that book and what kind of trash it is. Then a historian from India said we donÃ¢â¬â¢t have to take these kinds of anti-Hindu scholars seriously and rebut them. He felt that by reacting to this Ã¢â¬Ånut case (XXX)Ã¢â¬Â, we are providing legitimacy to them which we must resist at all cost.<br />
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Then three prominent scholars objected to this Ã¢â¬ÅignoringÃ¢â¬Â and said why Hindus must take put these issues:<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Scholar 1:</span><br />
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1) TRAINING: we have too little rather too much competent criticism of the others. This competence takes many years to develop; it needs encouragement and not a flippant dismissal. the skills developed as a solid critic are highly portable and can be deployed later on other targets. If one observes how the Indian youth are being brainwashed on campuses by Marxists-Islamists-crypto Christians, one would learn the merit in such approaches that start with simpler, less prominent targets first. So my first reason to encourage this is that it is a training vehicle both for the scholar doing it as well as for the readers who tend to be rather naive and ignorant most of the time. <br />
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2) POWER STRUCTURE/HIERARCHY OF THEIR ARMY: To locate XXX in the big picture, one must understand the whole establishment of institutions that dominate knowledge production, distribution and retailing about civilizations, religions, nations, etc. XXX is a middle ranking officer along with other middle ranking officers like Angana Chatterji, Vijay Prashad and many more I could list. The senior officials like Romila Thapar, Irfan Habib, etc. based in India and several whites and Indians based overseas have many decades of expertise in maturing their collaborations, and networks of influence. They skillfully tap into funding sources, media to promote their books and spread their ideas, school education textbook writers, government policymakers, human rights activists in NGOs, etc. But they rely upon the middle rank to continue the work of producing more brainwashed young scholars. After all, Thapar types are not always active as teachers and even if they are, they know they have limited time ahead. So they groom others like these middle ranks to take over the teaching burden to ensure that the next gen will follow in their ideologies. <br />
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XXX has to be studied as it is such folks who will occupy prestigious chairs one day. Already they occupy various committees that make selections: from hiring, to papers selected, to conference attendees invited. When a US University was selecting the replacement of the Chair of Indian History, it was XXX on the selection committee who was championing the hiring of the most radical Marxist Indian historians possible. (This is duty for their version of sangha.) This time around (but probably not in the future) the benefactor was able to intervene and convince the authorities to bend their academic "isolation" and get a person who would be less anti-India. They got such a person - who I am told is somewhat less virulent but still very much into the theory of "foreigners brought everything useful to India". There are more young students today per annum being influenced by these middle rank folks than by the top tier generals of their army. Some of these middle rankers are vying to advance their careers, and for this they need to be seen in a certain light, and they also need to constantly kiss the right asses. It is a career club of sorts. This is not different than the behavior of the diehard religious activists I have observed. The difference is that the club XXX belongs to has control over the institutional mechanisms that are critical to assert power in society - school education, higher education, media, policymaking think tanks, human rights NGOs, and funding mechanisms. Unfortunately, most Hindus I come across are living in some lofty space in the clouds, dismissive of the importance of these institutional mechanisms. They trivialize what they truly donÃ¢â¬â¢t even know about. <br />
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3) MULTIPLE THEORETICAL FRAMEWORKS: Too many Indian scholars fail to understand the fine distinctions among various kinds of ideologies, and simplistically lump them as "west" or "Christian". The fact is that XXX is very anti-western and anti-white. He champions Ward Churchill, a part Native American, who led the angry anti-white rhetoric, which exaggerated some facts and got denounced. So when it comes to Indian vs. British, XXX will support Indians and hence Hindu. But when it comes to Hindu vs. Muslim issues, he is clearly on the Muslim side. This genre of postcolonialism consists of attacking colonialism, but not replacing it with an indigenous Indian civilization as their foundation, and instead valorizing the Mughal period. You will find this in the work of Sugata Bose even when he is not coauthoring with his Pakistani girlfriend, Ayesha Jalal. XXX is a mild Nehruvian and calls himself a Gandhian although his "Gandhianism" is naive - things like not owning a cell phone as a rejection of modernity but ok to use email. These mixed up folks use symbols, name dropping, who/what they show anger against, what events they attend - all this as a "profile portfolio" to project their intellectual identity within their system. The relationship with postmodernism is paradoxical and contradictory just like postmodernism itself. Western liberals invented postmodernism as a way to reject their past (both the Biblical era and the Enlightenment era that had replaced it). This was supposed to end all power structures of every kind in every discipline and domain. But recently the trend in western academics of theorizing is to reject postmodernism, seeing it as a sort of silly idealism and potentially a dangerous kind. It failed in its goal to deconstruct power (because it got co-opted by the very same power nexuses) and served as a cover for new kinds of power structures. But meanwhile, it is the fashion probe bandwagon of Indians who have downloaded the postmodern thought and turned it into their career ideology. XXX is one of these along with his mentor, Ashis Nandy. So while fighting western hegemony and whiteness (by equating it to modernity, hence the Gandhian symbolism in his portfolio), these Indians enter whiteness through a different and trendier door, namely postmodernism. I call it Postmodernism Whiteness. <br />
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So XXX's internal contradictions stem from wanting to believe that postmodernism is truly beyond civilizational grand narratives just because it says so and also because a few Indians have been admitted in as "theorists" such as Gaytri Spivak and Homi Bhabha (Harvard Humanities Dept and not the great Physicist). My point here is that folks who critique these kinds of books should be encouraged to go even deeper into their examination of people like XXX, because once you open the door to enter into their minds; there is no reason to stop after a simple analysis. Once you go deeper, their whole system of thinking and its history and relationships with power gets revealed. (People are also working on a book on this history of whiteness and its morphing into postmodern theories, which locates the "White Indians.") <br />
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4) BLINDNESS: A frequent topic of my arguments has been on assertions that "Indology is dead" and that "we won," which sends the implicit message that now "we can go home and relax". I have pointed out that the term Indology got replaced by South Asian studies; the empire that studied India most intensely has transferred from London to Washington; the CONCLUSIONS of what was once Indology have spread like a metastasized cancer into many other fields like religion, anthropology, history, political science, human rights, etc. This stealth Indology is far more dangerous because its mechanisms for spreading are hidden under various disciplines. See any textbook or even a modern western Sanskrit thesis and you see the signature of Aryan invasion/migration theories all over. The same ideological postures exist far more dangerously today. So itÃ¢â¬â¢s wrong to discourage whatever little energy we have in terms of mounting a counter discourse. Let them not finish us off so easily due to our own foolishness. <br />
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What goes unchallenged turns cancerous. If already cancerous it metastasizes and starts to spread. If its already metastasized it spreads faster unchallenged. So no matter what stage a given tumor might be in, it needs to be confronted and challenged. Even when the challenge seems feeble, it will give fodder to other challengers. In places like amazon.com such negative (but intelligent) remarks do dissuade usage of the books by the vast segment of undecided, the vacillators, the folks who want to be fair, etc. but who are simply uninformed. ItÃ¢â¬â¢s like a parliament that consists of members who are 100% from one party, but suddenly a dissenting voice appears. This voice cannot overrule the power structure, but its ability to make the system self conscious does have an effect. There are bound to be those who start to be less blatant in their bias just because someone is watching. <br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Scholar 2:</span><br />
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Not just the book of XXX, even in Wendy Doniger's new book, one can see how the power structures discussed by Scholar 1 below play out. If you see the bibliography of her chapters, she has largely referred to people of 'her school'; Marxist historians; and other partners in 'the good fight' (to use her phrase). It is all about creating and leveraging alliances. She is no fool, or else she would not be today where she is right now. <br />
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A quick look at the Worldcat shows that already more than 300 libraries in the US and Europe have purchased her book. If that books goes unchallenged, you can be assured that it will be used as an 'introductory text on Hinduism' very soon. There is an Indian reprint for a mere Rs 500 available already. The urban Hindus who know nothing about our heritage will lap all that she drools. We all know what will happen then. <br />
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If nothing, our opposition to such books raises the stakes and discourages at least some potential Hindu baiters from writing such nonsense in future. And the controversy generated is a great way to enlighten our own people about the true foundations of our Dharma. <br />
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A very important point that is made below is that all these Hindu and India baiters train ARMIES of students every year. I personally met a lady whose son attended a class by Vinay Lal (a Marxist in UCLA). Initially, he was taken aback but soon, he started agreeing to what Lal said. Lals and Donigers lead their students through a tunneling of vision phenomenon and unless we break this spell, they will not see the truth. One only needs to go to ANY Indian gathering comprising of the normal crowd (not just the Sangh followers) and you will be shocked how much the average Indian has been brainwashed. So we cannot live in this fantasy world and say that people like XXX do not matter. Yes, they do. And unfortunately, they probably matter more than us right now. So we have a good task cut out for us for our lifetimes. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
As the Shringeri Shankaracharya once said to me - If Lord Vishnu Himself leaves his state of eternal Kaivalya and incarnates to fight evil, is it not our duty too to fight what is wrong tooth and nail? <br />
<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Scholar 3:</span><br />
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I understand and sympathize with your interpretation of XXX political motivations, but I do believe there is somewhat more to this story. It is important to recognize that he and his ilk have come to regard Islam as being in the forefront of anti-imperialism, particularly Israeli-American, in which they regard 'Hindu India' complicit. Of course the notion of Hindu India is an absurdity unless one is willing to accept the most visceral Pakistani-Bangladeshi commentary on the nature of India, itself rooted in 19th century sub continental Islamic sectarianism. Interestingly, XXX and his academic kin are unwilling to make direct criticism of 'Islamic regimes' (because they rarely criticize anything Islamic) that the Jihadis, with who they are in sympathy, oppose. But most glaringly, they absolutely refuse to recognize the brutal imperialist agenda of Islamic Jihadis themselves. And even more shockingly, XXX and most Leftist supporters of supposed Islamic resistance to Western imperialism ignore any atrocities Muslim Jihadis commit against innocent non Muslims or indeed Muslims (e.g. the callous killings of Shias in Pakistan by Saudi-inspired Sunnis). Thus Taslima's banishment from Kolkata/India elicited no protest (though one major Leftist writer, Mahasweta-devi, denounced the communists for it) nor the routine kidnapping, rape and the forced marriage of Hindu girls in Bangladesh and various parts of Pakistan. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
It is pertinent to note that the Anglo-American war against militant Islamic groups is of very recent origin, indeed less than a decade old. Earlier these murderous Islamist Islamists were very much part of the Western arsenal against Arab nationalism, the USSR (until the early 1990s and later in Chechnya because of its near monopoly of oil pipelines to the West) and other assorted regimes, like India disliked by the West. Indian Leftists have always been part of this political dispensation though its implications were not rendered explicit and barely recognized by protagonists of Hindutva, who have never had the intellectual equipment to see beyond their noses. It is important to recall that this political dispensation was also pro-Chinese and therefore willing partners of their Western ally, the USA, which, incidentally, renewed the integrity of China's nuclear defenses in the mid-1970s (to avert a possible preemptive Soviet nuclear strike) and <br />
<br />
then helped Pakistan emerge as a nuclear power and exporter of weapons technology (all the evidence now public). These three parties, Indian Leftists, China and the US, also came together to support the genocide in Bangladesh in 1971. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Indian Leftist access to academic positions in US and British universities has been significantly predicated on the intercession of foreign policy and intelligence agencies (and their academic levies within universities) determined to undermine Indian political legitimacy (they cursed Nehru and Indira Gandhi much more venomously than any Hindutva target) through a non stop critique of all its 'devilish works', thereby validating Pakistani claims of victimhood. The likes of Sugata Bose (with and without Ayesha Jalal) his brother at the LSE (persistent critic of Indian policy in Kashmir) and cousin Sharmila at Oxford (denies the Pakistani army committed mass rape in East Pakistan in 1971) issue a constant patter of delegitimizing against India. I have just read a piece by Professor Dipesh Chakravarty, colleague of the two Chicago University harridans, Doniger and Nussbaum, cynically denouncing Indian nationalist historical writing by insinuating a Hindutva pedigree for it. Nowhere does he cite the implied specifics of distortion by them except to name Romila Thapar and Sumit Sarkar (a genuine low life himself) as some sort of irrefutable evidential iconography to supposedly clinch the argument; he only emerges as a low life as well as a result, which a Chicago chair in the heart of the imperialist monster cannot obviate! <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The CPM and its Muslim vote bank are very important explanatory variables too because the communists understood that without Muslims votes they were nothing in West Bengal and Kerala, the only bases of their political power in India. They ensured through myriad party institutions that the Leftist intelligentsia understood this stark reality. As a result, the pro-communist 'intelligentsia' eschewed all questioning of Islam and provided the cultural and intellectual rationale for the victimhood of Muslims and the portrayal of an alleged converse fascism of Brahminnical Hinduism. From Romila Thapar and the two JNU Patnaiks to Amiya Bagchi and Joya Chatterji and countless other acolytes, never has a word of criticism been uttered against Islam. And the non CPM Leftist Indian intelligentsia was intellectually overawed and also depended on the party mandarins, holding crucial academic and bureaucratic offices, for their own careers. And a whole climate of anti-Hindu propaganda took root in which a Leftist identity by became the norm for a large number of university students. And evangelical Christians also supported this insidious campaign (just look at the newer Christian evangelical websites) because doing down Hindus was their first port of call. <br />
<br />
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But bear in mind that Hindus across the board (including of late Baba Ramdev and Sir Sri) confronted by an implacable Islam have sought to accommodate. Gandhi was only an extreme version of the phenomenon, which is shared even by the RSS, judging by its forlorn efforts to reach some sort of reconciliation with it. R.K. Ohri judges this cowardly Hindu impulse as a product of fear due to prolonged subjugation and constant brutal punishment, floggings, torture and painful deaths.]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[Friends,<br />
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I am doing a research work on Sikhs who were from a Brahmin background.  There is a already one book published but my work is expanding on Haripur Hazara and Kashmir region as well.  I will appreciate if knowledable community share some information regarding this area's Sikhs.<br />
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Please download and read book in Punjabi on short history book.  It will be translated to English soon.  The published on Brahmin Sikhs is very interesting and some information you can find from this PDF <a href="http://www.banniamrit.com/books/BrahmanBhalaAakhiyee.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.banniamrit.com/books/BrahmanB...khiyee.pdf</a>  ...  <br />
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Best Regards,<br />
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Ajit Singh Rishi<br />
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<a href="http://brahminsikh.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://brahminsikh.wordpress.com/</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Friends,<br />
<br />
<br />
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I am doing a research work on Sikhs who were from a Brahmin background.  There is a already one book published but my work is expanding on Haripur Hazara and Kashmir region as well.  I will appreciate if knowledable community share some information regarding this area's Sikhs.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Please download and read book in Punjabi on short history book.  It will be translated to English soon.  The published on Brahmin Sikhs is very interesting and some information you can find from this PDF <a href="http://www.banniamrit.com/books/BrahmanBhalaAakhiyee.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.banniamrit.com/books/BrahmanB...khiyee.pdf</a>  ...  <br />
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<br />
<br />
Best Regards,<br />
<br />
Ajit Singh Rishi<br />
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<a href="http://brahminsikh.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://brahminsikh.wordpress.com/</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[History of Linguistics]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=171</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Why do the western countries need the subject of Linguistics<br />
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When did linguistics as a subject became a major project for the western countries.]]></description>
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When did linguistics as a subject became a major project for the western countries.]]></content:encoded>
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