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			<title><![CDATA[Indian Surgical strike against Pakistan]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 05:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=137">ravish</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[The Surgical strike carried out by the Indian Army across the LOC in Jammu &amp; Kashmir has come as a surprise to Pakistan. They had not expected such a strong reaction from India in retaliation to the continued terrorist attacks from across the border be it Pathankot or Uri. In the past India has always shown restraint and so the expectation of Pakistan had remained the same till the Surgical Strike took place. As a face saving measure, Pakistan has gone into a denial mode and has tried to pass on the incident as an exchange of fire across the LOC, which keeps on happening at regular intervals.<br />
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	In PakistanÃ¢â¬â¢s domestic politics this has caused unexpected fallout. It has perhaps for the first time made the decision makers realize how diplomatically isolated Pakistan has  become in the international arena.AS reported in a section of the Pakistan media, the Foreign Secretary at a high level meeting indicated that even China has indicated that it cannot support Pakistan indefinitely on the issue of harboring terrorists like Hafiz Sayeed .It has also been leaked in the Press that certain terror groups are under the protection of the ISI and the civil administration can take no action against them. Let us now hope that some wiser sense will prevail on the Pakistani leadership.<br />
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        In the special session of the Pakistan National Assembly which was called for discussing the Kashmir situation, a number of members accused the Government of harboring terrorist elements in the country and allowing them and their organization to operate freely in the country. They felt that this is the main cause which has tarnished the image of the country and the world community today considers Pakistan as a country that protects and propagates terrorism. They called upon the Government to reign in the terrorist outfits. They reminded the Government that the world has changed and today many countries in the world are victims of terrorist attacks and therefore these countries will not support any bad terrorist or good terrorist.<br />
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         The Pakistan media has expressed the view that India today is the fastest growing economy in the world and its economic clout is helping it to diplomatically isolating Pakistan. They were surprised to take note of the fact that Pakistan's close friends of the past like Saudi Arabia, UAE and other countries of the Muslim Umma are today al busy fostering their friendship with India. Even Iran and Afghanistan are all siding with India. These developments have become matters of great concern to the Pakistan leadership.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The Surgical strike carried out by the Indian Army across the LOC in Jammu &amp; Kashmir has come as a surprise to Pakistan. They had not expected such a strong reaction from India in retaliation to the continued terrorist attacks from across the border be it Pathankot or Uri. In the past India has always shown restraint and so the expectation of Pakistan had remained the same till the Surgical Strike took place. As a face saving measure, Pakistan has gone into a denial mode and has tried to pass on the incident as an exchange of fire across the LOC, which keeps on happening at regular intervals.<br />
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	In PakistanÃ¢â¬â¢s domestic politics this has caused unexpected fallout. It has perhaps for the first time made the decision makers realize how diplomatically isolated Pakistan has  become in the international arena.AS reported in a section of the Pakistan media, the Foreign Secretary at a high level meeting indicated that even China has indicated that it cannot support Pakistan indefinitely on the issue of harboring terrorists like Hafiz Sayeed .It has also been leaked in the Press that certain terror groups are under the protection of the ISI and the civil administration can take no action against them. Let us now hope that some wiser sense will prevail on the Pakistani leadership.<br />
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        In the special session of the Pakistan National Assembly which was called for discussing the Kashmir situation, a number of members accused the Government of harboring terrorist elements in the country and allowing them and their organization to operate freely in the country. They felt that this is the main cause which has tarnished the image of the country and the world community today considers Pakistan as a country that protects and propagates terrorism. They called upon the Government to reign in the terrorist outfits. They reminded the Government that the world has changed and today many countries in the world are victims of terrorist attacks and therefore these countries will not support any bad terrorist or good terrorist.<br />
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         The Pakistan media has expressed the view that India today is the fastest growing economy in the world and its economic clout is helping it to diplomatically isolating Pakistan. They were surprised to take note of the fact that Pakistan's close friends of the past like Saudi Arabia, UAE and other countries of the Muslim Umma are today al busy fostering their friendship with India. Even Iran and Afghanistan are all siding with India. These developments have become matters of great concern to the Pakistan leadership.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Pathankot terrorist attack]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=14</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=137">ravish</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[The terrorist attack at the airbase in Pathankot has once again pointed out that the security of our defense installations needs to be improved and all other related procedures needs to be fine tuned. Fortunately, there has been no damage to the defense assets and neither there has been any civilian casualty.<br />
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Readers are  welcome to express their views on the issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The terrorist attack at the airbase in Pathankot has once again pointed out that the security of our defense installations needs to be improved and all other related procedures needs to be fine tuned. Fortunately, there has been no damage to the defense assets and neither there has been any civilian casualty.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Christian terrorism aka Christian State aka &#34;India-for-christ&#34; outfits]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=17</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=113">Husky</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Enough with the innocuously-titled "christian missionary" threads.<br />
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Why are there islamic terrorism threads and none on christian terrorism?<br />
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Today's news: death toll of adivasis (aka HindOOs) by christian outfit NFBD - christmas offering to jeebusjehovallah - is at 62. (And counting)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Enough with the innocuously-titled "christian missionary" threads.<br />
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Why are there islamic terrorism threads and none on christian terrorism?<br />
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Today's news: death toll of adivasis (aka HindOOs) by christian outfit NFBD - christmas offering to jeebusjehovallah - is at 62. (And counting)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Rape crimes in India vs elsewhere: deliberate disproportionate reporting by international news]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=20</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2014 17:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=113">Husky</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Archiving thread.<br />
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Topic as in title.<br />
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1. Rape crimes in India vs in other countries. About the disproportionate reporting by international news, and why this is so obviously deliberate.<br />
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2. Also about the concealment of the religion of the victims in Indian cases who are almost always Hindu and the attempted concealment of the ideology of perpetrators, who are always adherents of either islam, christianity, communism or else anti-Hindu psecularism.<br />
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The reason for the thread is as stated: to archive how similar crimes elsewhere - both shortly before and ever since the first Indian crime of this nature that made headlines around the world - never got reported globally with the same intensity nor were they made to reflect on the nations in which they occurred let alone their populations. Whereas in the Indian case, this is evolved into - obviously christian-masterminded - stories into how India (read Hindu) is anti-women and how Hindu men and hence Hinduism are the villains, even though the rapists even in the sensationalised cases are never Hindus.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">[color="#0000FF"]Goes without saying that the items can and most probably will contain disturbing/graphic material.[/color]</span> It is the very nature of the topic, obviously.<br />
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Some news items will just be headings with date and location or snippets if possible. Others unfortunately will contain more detail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Archiving thread.<br />
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Topic as in title.<br />
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1. Rape crimes in India vs in other countries. About the disproportionate reporting by international news, and why this is so obviously deliberate.<br />
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2. Also about the concealment of the religion of the victims in Indian cases who are almost always Hindu and the attempted concealment of the ideology of perpetrators, who are always adherents of either islam, christianity, communism or else anti-Hindu psecularism.<br />
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The reason for the thread is as stated: to archive how similar crimes elsewhere - both shortly before and ever since the first Indian crime of this nature that made headlines around the world - never got reported globally with the same intensity nor were they made to reflect on the nations in which they occurred let alone their populations. Whereas in the Indian case, this is evolved into - obviously christian-masterminded - stories into how India (read Hindu) is anti-women and how Hindu men and hence Hinduism are the villains, even though the rapists even in the sensationalised cases are never Hindus.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">[color="#0000FF"]Goes without saying that the items can and most probably will contain disturbing/graphic material.[/color]</span> It is the very nature of the topic, obviously.<br />
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Some news items will just be headings with date and location or snippets if possible. Others unfortunately will contain more detail.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Christoislamaniacs cannibalising each other and themselves]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=24</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 14:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=113">Husky</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Couldn't decide on which thread title was most fitting.<br />
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Topics:<br />
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- Christoislamaniacs murdering each other off and terrorising each other (not that I care. Rather they kill each other than either of them killing heathens)<br />
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- Anyone else who beats down christoislamania. E.g. Chinese crackdown on islamania<br />
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- How the christowest's conversion of heathen nations makes them 3rd worlds with 3rd world mentalities. All "ethnic" christists are laughed at as more retarded than even the most dimwitted and illiterate western christist. Conversion of Asia and Africa is regarded by the west as a way to manufacture a permanent 3rd world in Asia and Africa and never have competition: christowest knows full well that a converted Asia and Africa will never amount to anything (let alone competition).<br />
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To start, reposting from the christianism thread:<br />
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sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/04/22/un-evacuates-100-muslims-car<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>22 Apr 2014 - 12:12pm<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">UN evacuates 100 Muslims from CAR</span><br />
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The UN has evacuated 93 Muslims from the capital of the crisis-torn Central African Republic to protect them from Christian vigilante groups. Source AAP <br />
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UPDATED 12:14 PM - 22 Apr 2014.<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]The United Nations has evacuated almost 100 Muslims from the capital of the crisis-torn Central African Republic to "save their lives", officials say.[/color]<br />
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Supported by staff from the UN's refugee agency, 93 Muslims were transported east from Bangui to the town of Bambari, says El Hadj Abacar ben Ousmane, senior official in the town about 300km from the capital.<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]Sectarian violence in the former French colony has killed thousands in the past year.[/color]<br />
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The Muslim group travelled to Bambari from Sunday through to Monday in two trucks, accompanied by a convoy of vehicles from the French peacekeeping force Sangaris, the UNHCR refugee agency and the International Organisation for Migration.<br />
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The convoy was pelted with stones as it passed through the town of Sibut, a member of the African-led MISCA peacekeeping force told AFP.<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]"This is a measure to save their lives,[/color] taken as a last resort after a long time considering their case," said Tammi Sharpe, deputy head of the UNHCR in the Central Africa Republic.<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]She said the evacuated Muslims had been "constantly attacked" in their northern Bangui neighbourhood of PK 12, where conditions at the moment are "particularly tense".[/color]<br />
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In Bambari, a Christian-majority town of 45,000 people, El Hadj Abacar ben Ousmane said Muslims and Christians could live in "harmony".<br />
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"We would have no objection to welcoming others," he said. "We have no problems with each other."<br />
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The Central African Republic, one of the poorest countries in the world, plunged into a crisis after a coup by the mostly Muslim Seleka rebels in March last year.<br />
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After seizing power, some rebels went rogue and embarked on a campaign of killing, raping and looting.<br />
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[color="#800080"](This is obviously alleged. Poor innocent islamaniac jihadi terrorists have obviously been framed! As also frequently happens in Pakistan, where poor islamaniacs get blamed for christians killing themselves bloodily.)[/color]<br />
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The abuses prompted members of [color="#FF0000"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Christian majority</span> to form vigilante groups, <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">unleashing brutal</span> tit-for-tat <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">killings</span> - <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">leaving thousands dead</span>, close to <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">a million displaced</span> and warnings the <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">country is on the brink of genocide</span>.</span>[/color]</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Couldn't decide on which thread title was most fitting.<br />
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Topics:<br />
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- Christoislamaniacs murdering each other off and terrorising each other (not that I care. Rather they kill each other than either of them killing heathens)<br />
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- Anyone else who beats down christoislamania. E.g. Chinese crackdown on islamania<br />
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- How the christowest's conversion of heathen nations makes them 3rd worlds with 3rd world mentalities. All "ethnic" christists are laughed at as more retarded than even the most dimwitted and illiterate western christist. Conversion of Asia and Africa is regarded by the west as a way to manufacture a permanent 3rd world in Asia and Africa and never have competition: christowest knows full well that a converted Asia and Africa will never amount to anything (let alone competition).<br />
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To start, reposting from the christianism thread:<br />
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sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/04/22/un-evacuates-100-muslims-car<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>22 Apr 2014 - 12:12pm<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">UN evacuates 100 Muslims from CAR</span><br />
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The UN has evacuated 93 Muslims from the capital of the crisis-torn Central African Republic to protect them from Christian vigilante groups. Source AAP <br />
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UPDATED 12:14 PM - 22 Apr 2014.<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]The United Nations has evacuated almost 100 Muslims from the capital of the crisis-torn Central African Republic to "save their lives", officials say.[/color]<br />
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<br />
Supported by staff from the UN's refugee agency, 93 Muslims were transported east from Bangui to the town of Bambari, says El Hadj Abacar ben Ousmane, senior official in the town about 300km from the capital.<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]Sectarian violence in the former French colony has killed thousands in the past year.[/color]<br />
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The Muslim group travelled to Bambari from Sunday through to Monday in two trucks, accompanied by a convoy of vehicles from the French peacekeeping force Sangaris, the UNHCR refugee agency and the International Organisation for Migration.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The convoy was pelted with stones as it passed through the town of Sibut, a member of the African-led MISCA peacekeeping force told AFP.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
[color="#0000FF"]"This is a measure to save their lives,[/color] taken as a last resort after a long time considering their case," said Tammi Sharpe, deputy head of the UNHCR in the Central Africa Republic.<br />
<br />
<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]She said the evacuated Muslims had been "constantly attacked" in their northern Bangui neighbourhood of PK 12, where conditions at the moment are "particularly tense".[/color]<br />
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In Bambari, a Christian-majority town of 45,000 people, El Hadj Abacar ben Ousmane said Muslims and Christians could live in "harmony".<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
"We would have no objection to welcoming others," he said. "We have no problems with each other."<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
The Central African Republic, one of the poorest countries in the world, plunged into a crisis after a coup by the mostly Muslim Seleka rebels in March last year.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
After seizing power, some rebels went rogue and embarked on a campaign of killing, raping and looting.<br />
<br />
[color="#800080"](This is obviously alleged. Poor innocent islamaniac jihadi terrorists have obviously been framed! As also frequently happens in Pakistan, where poor islamaniacs get blamed for christians killing themselves bloodily.)[/color]<br />
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<br />
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The abuses prompted members of [color="#FF0000"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Christian majority</span> to form vigilante groups, <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">unleashing brutal</span> tit-for-tat <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">killings</span> - <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">leaving thousands dead</span>, close to <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">a million displaced</span> and warnings the <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">country is on the brink of genocide</span>.</span>[/color]</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Unresolved tragedies - tentatively &#34;secular&#34;]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=32</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 14:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=113">Husky</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Unresolved tragedies - tentatively "secular"<br />
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Yet why the emergence of a pattern? A total of <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">two</span> similar mysterious "accidents" may not constitute a pattern generally, but note the dates for such rarish 'mysteries' are very close together. Both night trains too. If anyone wanted to kill lots of people on a train, chances are they will have more success with night trains: more people will succumb to fire when asleep than when awake.<br />
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1. indianexpress.com/news/26-die-in-sleep-as-fire-breaks-out-on-train-from-bangalore/1212950/<br />
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indianexpress.com/news/26-die-in-sleep-as-fire-breaks-out-on-train-from-bangalore/1212950/2<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">26 die in sleep as fire breaks out on train from Bangalore</span><br />
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Santosh Kumar R B , Avishek G Dastidar : Kothacheruvu, New Delhi, Sun Dec 29 2013, 08:16 hrs    <br />
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[color="#800080"][Photo caption:][/color] [color="#0000FF"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Preliminary inquiry by Railways ruled out short-circuit and indicated the presence of a 'foreign object' which could have started the fire. (PTI)</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#800080"](Note, the foreign object has not been identified as a cigarette, lighter or any other known, everyday item. The phrase "foreign object" rules out several things. What remains after the process of elimination? Unidentified object? Irregular fire-starting object? What?)[/color]<br />
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Twenty six people, including two children, were killed and 12 injured when a fire broke out in the AC 3-tier <br />
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B-1 coach of the Bangalore-Nanded Express train at Kothacheruvu near Puttaparthi in the early hours of Saturday. <br />
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While the Commissioner of Railway Safety will formally probe the incident, a preliminary inquiry by Railways is learnt to have ruled out short-circuit and indicated the presence of a "foreign object" which could have started the fire. <br />
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[color="#0000FF"]According to Railway officials who inspected the gutted coach, the area near berth 64, where the coach's power panel was located, did not seem to have been burnt. Moreover, the battery fuse was also found intact. In case of a short circuit, these two would have been affected.[/color] <br />
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[color="#800080"](Not to mention the "presence of a "foreign object" which "could have started the fire".)[/color]<br />
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<span style="color: blue;" class="mycode_color">According to reports, the fire broke out at 3:10 am, when most of the 65 passengers were sleeping. Some managed to escape by breaking the window panes or running to the next coach. The train was stopped and the B-1 coach detached to stop the fire from spreading.</span> <br />
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Fire and emergency service vehicles from Puttaparthi were called in to douse the flames. The Kothacheruvu police, Ananthapuram district police, Railway Protection Force and the state railway police rushed to the spot. Local residents also helped in the rescue operation. <br />
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[color="#0000FF"]By 11:30 am, the rescue team had pulled out 26 bodies. Nine of the bodies have been identified as P Leela, Rajanathan, N Sudha, K Kulakarni, Amir Kumar, Eshwarappa Lingappa, Bhagyaraj, Sarvamngala and S R Krishnamurthy[/color]. DNA tests will be performed to identify the remaining bodies. <br />
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<span style="color: color;" class="mycode_color">Among those who are reported missing are Dr Asra, her son Mohammed Rahi and brother-in-law Ibrahim Rahi, software engineer Rahul of Adhoni and engineer Prathap Vinay.</span> <br />
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While six of the injured passengers suffered minor burns, the others sustained 15-45 per cent burns.<br />
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Quoting survivors, officials said most of the victims seemed to have died due to asphyxiation caused by the smoke. "A passenger on berth 32, whose relatives died, said he saw fire on the floor. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A foreign object appears to have caused the fire," said a senior Railway ministry official. Sources said local officials did not rule out a "sabotage angle".</span><br />
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Railway Minister Mallikarjun Kharge, who rushed to the spot, said cigarettes, explosive objects and liquor would be strictly banned on trains. He also announced an ex-gratia payment of Rs 5 lakh to the next of kin of the deceased, Rs 1 lakh for those with serious injuries and Rs 50,000 for the others injured.</blockquote>
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2. indianexpress.com/news/dehradun-express-fire-nine-charred-to-death--railways-orders-inquiry/1216770/<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Dehradun Express fire: Nine charred to death; Railways orders inquiry</span><br />
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PRIYAL DAVE : New Delhi, Wed Jan 08 2014, 13:49 hrs<br />
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[color="#800080"][photo caption:][/color] Nine people were killed after a fire broke out in three general coaches of Bandra-Dehradun Express. (IE Photo)<br />
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Nine people were killed after a fire broke out in three general coaches of Bandra-Dehradun Express, north of Dahanu Road station in Thane district at around 2.30am Wednesday. Senior Railway officers rushed to the spot. <br />
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Railway Minister Mallikarjun Kharge announced an ex-gratia of Rs 5 lakh to the next of kin of those killed in the train mishap. The minister also ordered inquiry into the train mishap. <br />
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Of the nine, five bodies have been identified. Four dead were men and one woman, who were reported to have died due to asphyxiation, said Shailendra Kumar, divisional railway manager, Western Railway. The other bodies were charred beyond recognition, said the officer. Rescue work is underway, he added. <br />
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The train has been taken to Gholvad station for rescue work. <br />
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Officers said fire had been brought under control, however smoke inside the coaches made rescue work difficult. <br />
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Sharat Chandrayan, chief public relations officer, Western Railway said, "The guard noticed the fire and applied emergency brakes. The three coaches were isolated to prevent the fire from spreading. Rescue work is still underway." <br />
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Train 19019 from Bandra Terminus to Dehradun left Mumbai at 00.05 am Wednesday. <br />
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[color="#0000FF"]The accident comes within days of the Bangalore train tragedy where twenty six people, including two children, were killed and 12 injured when a fire broke out in the AC 3-tier B-1 coach of the Bangalore-Nanded Express train at Kothacheruvu near Puttaparthi.[/color]<br />
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So 2 <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">night</span> trains. Within about 10 <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">days of each other</span>. Both catching <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">fire</span>, and people dead.<br />
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Does this sort of thing happen often?<br />
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Previously I've noted there have been occurrences of key people accidentally (or magically?) forgetting to swap the lines at junctions so that a collision between trains occurred resulting in mass-deaths. <br />
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But catching fire? Is that ... common? And if so, why only in India? (Never heard of such things happening in any other country I've been. And I still read their news on occasion.)<br />
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Not to mention that the fire was from "the presence of a foreign object" a.o.t. power or fuse etc. Sounds like it human instigation.]]></description>
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Yet why the emergence of a pattern? A total of <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">two</span> similar mysterious "accidents" may not constitute a pattern generally, but note the dates for such rarish 'mysteries' are very close together. Both night trains too. If anyone wanted to kill lots of people on a train, chances are they will have more success with night trains: more people will succumb to fire when asleep than when awake.<br />
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1. indianexpress.com/news/26-die-in-sleep-as-fire-breaks-out-on-train-from-bangalore/1212950/<br />
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[color="#800080"][Photo caption:][/color] [color="#0000FF"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Preliminary inquiry by Railways ruled out short-circuit and indicated the presence of a 'foreign object' which could have started the fire. (PTI)</span>[/color]<br />
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[color="#800080"](Note, the foreign object has not been identified as a cigarette, lighter or any other known, everyday item. The phrase "foreign object" rules out several things. What remains after the process of elimination? Unidentified object? Irregular fire-starting object? What?)[/color]<br />
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Twenty six people, including two children, were killed and 12 injured when a fire broke out in the AC 3-tier <br />
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B-1 coach of the Bangalore-Nanded Express train at Kothacheruvu near Puttaparthi in the early hours of Saturday. <br />
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While the Commissioner of Railway Safety will formally probe the incident, a preliminary inquiry by Railways is learnt to have ruled out short-circuit and indicated the presence of a "foreign object" which could have started the fire. <br />
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[color="#0000FF"]According to Railway officials who inspected the gutted coach, the area near berth 64, where the coach's power panel was located, did not seem to have been burnt. Moreover, the battery fuse was also found intact. In case of a short circuit, these two would have been affected.[/color] <br />
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[color="#800080"](Not to mention the "presence of a "foreign object" which "could have started the fire".)[/color]<br />
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<span style="color: blue;" class="mycode_color">According to reports, the fire broke out at 3:10 am, when most of the 65 passengers were sleeping. Some managed to escape by breaking the window panes or running to the next coach. The train was stopped and the B-1 coach detached to stop the fire from spreading.</span> <br />
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Fire and emergency service vehicles from Puttaparthi were called in to douse the flames. The Kothacheruvu police, Ananthapuram district police, Railway Protection Force and the state railway police rushed to the spot. Local residents also helped in the rescue operation. <br />
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[color="#0000FF"]By 11:30 am, the rescue team had pulled out 26 bodies. Nine of the bodies have been identified as P Leela, Rajanathan, N Sudha, K Kulakarni, Amir Kumar, Eshwarappa Lingappa, Bhagyaraj, Sarvamngala and S R Krishnamurthy[/color]. DNA tests will be performed to identify the remaining bodies. <br />
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While six of the injured passengers suffered minor burns, the others sustained 15-45 per cent burns.<br />
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Quoting survivors, officials said most of the victims seemed to have died due to asphyxiation caused by the smoke. "A passenger on berth 32, whose relatives died, said he saw fire on the floor. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A foreign object appears to have caused the fire," said a senior Railway ministry official. Sources said local officials did not rule out a "sabotage angle".</span><br />
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Railway Minister Mallikarjun Kharge, who rushed to the spot, said cigarettes, explosive objects and liquor would be strictly banned on trains. He also announced an ex-gratia payment of Rs 5 lakh to the next of kin of the deceased, Rs 1 lakh for those with serious injuries and Rs 50,000 for the others injured.</blockquote>
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2. indianexpress.com/news/dehradun-express-fire-nine-charred-to-death--railways-orders-inquiry/1216770/<br />
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PRIYAL DAVE : New Delhi, Wed Jan 08 2014, 13:49 hrs<br />
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[color="#800080"][photo caption:][/color] Nine people were killed after a fire broke out in three general coaches of Bandra-Dehradun Express. (IE Photo)<br />
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Nine people were killed after a fire broke out in three general coaches of Bandra-Dehradun Express, north of Dahanu Road station in Thane district at around 2.30am Wednesday. Senior Railway officers rushed to the spot. <br />
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Railway Minister Mallikarjun Kharge announced an ex-gratia of Rs 5 lakh to the next of kin of those killed in the train mishap. The minister also ordered inquiry into the train mishap. <br />
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Of the nine, five bodies have been identified. Four dead were men and one woman, who were reported to have died due to asphyxiation, said Shailendra Kumar, divisional railway manager, Western Railway. The other bodies were charred beyond recognition, said the officer. Rescue work is underway, he added. <br />
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The train has been taken to Gholvad station for rescue work. <br />
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Officers said fire had been brought under control, however smoke inside the coaches made rescue work difficult. <br />
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Sharat Chandrayan, chief public relations officer, Western Railway said, "The guard noticed the fire and applied emergency brakes. The three coaches were isolated to prevent the fire from spreading. Rescue work is still underway." <br />
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Train 19019 from Bandra Terminus to Dehradun left Mumbai at 00.05 am Wednesday. <br />
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[color="#800080"](Another night train then. Magically catching on fire.)[/color]<br />
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The helpline numbers are: 022 23011853 and 23007386 <br />
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[color="#0000FF"]The accident comes within days of the Bangalore train tragedy where twenty six people, including two children, were killed and 12 injured when a fire broke out in the AC 3-tier B-1 coach of the Bangalore-Nanded Express train at Kothacheruvu near Puttaparthi.[/color]<br />
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[color="#800080"](Yes, within days.)[/color]</blockquote>
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So 2 <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">night</span> trains. Within about 10 <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">days of each other</span>. Both catching <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">fire</span>, and people dead.<br />
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I don't know Indian railways too well. <br />
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Does this sort of thing happen often?<br />
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Previously I've noted there have been occurrences of key people accidentally (or magically?) forgetting to swap the lines at junctions so that a collision between trains occurred resulting in mass-deaths. <br />
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But catching fire? Is that ... common? And if so, why only in India? (Never heard of such things happening in any other country I've been. And I still read their news on occasion.)<br />
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Not to mention that the fire was from "the presence of a foreign object" a.o.t. power or fuse etc. Sounds like it human instigation.]]></content:encoded>
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1. rajeev2004.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/muzaffarnagar-up-riots-reaction-to_10.html<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Tuesday, September 10, 2013<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">MuzaffarNagar, U.P riots: a reaction to SECULAR rape</span> <br />
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[color="#800080"]("Secular" obviously deliberately used as it's the term the christomedia gives to all <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">christoislamic rapistry</span>, most especially when conducted against conveniently anonymised Hindu victim communities)[/color]<br />
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The MuzaffarNagar riots are not some mischief mongering by "right wing" Hindoos. This is apparently a natural reaction to a grave provocation by ROP Jihad Romeos. See below for a shockingly long list of atrocities waged by the ROP "youth" under the benign watch of Maulana Singh Yadav. It is actually surprising that the reaction took such a long time to come and was quite restrained - in proportion to these atrocities. <br />
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1) Dec 21, 2012: Muzaffarnagar panchayat offers rape victim 1.5 L to keep quiet. Alleged Rapist? Tasavvur. <br />
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ibnlive.in.com/news/up-muzaffarnagar-panchayat-offers-rape-victim-rs-15-lakh-to-keep-quiet/311629-3-242.html?utm_source=ref_article<br />
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2)Dec 24, 2012: Minor girl gang-raped by 3 youths in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged Rapists?Javed, Pervaiz &amp; Mannan <br />
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3) Dec 29, 2012: Girl was raped in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged Rapists? Shauqueen and Rahil. <br />
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4) 17 Feb 18, 2013: Gang-rape by 4, filmed in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged Rapists? Naushad, Pravaiz, Hasan &amp; Nazar.<br />
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dnaindia.com/india/1801209/report-woman-gang-raped-by-four-men-filmed-in-muzaffarnagar<br />
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timesofap.com/politics/woman-gang-raped-by-four-men-filmed.html<br />
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Feb 2013 : Woman gangraped by four men and FILMED. Rapists ? Naushad, Pravaiz, Hasan and Nazar<br />
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5) Jul 8, 2013: Man [color="#800080"](Mehraj)[/color] shot dead for demanding arrest of gangrapists. Alleged Murderers? Bhura, Afzal, Mehtab, Yusuf, Farid, Hashim &amp; Islam<br />
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business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/man-shot-dead-for-demanding-arrest-of-gangrape-accused-113070800336_1.html<br />
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6) Aug 23, 2013: A schoolgirl gangraped by 5 youths in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged main Rapist? Salman.<br />
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financialexpress.com/news/schoolgirl-gangraped-by-5-youths-in-muzaffarnagar/992134<br />
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7) Aug 24, 2013: A Class IX student raped by youth in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged Rapist? Dilshad.<br />
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8) Aug 30, 2013: Muslim cleric arrested for abducting 11 year old girl. Alleged Abductor? Imam Abdul Rahim.<br />
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For a complete list of crimes, check the following crisp work of reporting: indiawires.com/25917/news/national/series-of-rapes-behind-muzaffarnagar-riots/</blockquote>
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2. <a href="http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17843" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17843</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Muzaffarnagar: 1.5 Lakh Hindus rally against Islamists' attacks ; Toll rise to 31</span><br />
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(Muzaffarnagar) Current Official Death Toll is 31 and Rising ! <br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">[color="#FF0000"]Muslim snipers are firing at the Army from rooftops and mosques.[/color]</span><br />
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Sequence of events that lead to fresh #UPRiots in Muzzafarnagar.<br />
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1. A Hindu Girl was teased and molested by Muslims.<br />
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2.Two angry brothers (unarmed) of the girl took on the Muslim molesters who pulled out their knives to stab them. But the two brothers snatched away one Muslim's knife and in self-defence, inflicted fatal wounds on the attacker. The 2 brothers were chased here-and-there by 100-150 Muslims for 25 minutes, had their head/throats slashed with swords and were beaten to death by Muslim mob who openly supported the Muslim molesters. <br />
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3. The village erupted with anger and helplessness reached heights when the media termed it as a small incident &amp;UP Police inaction.<br />
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3. The villagers organized "Mahapanchayat " to look into the brutal killings of 2 brothers.<br />
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4.Over 1.5 Lakh Hindu villagers from Western UP, Delhi, Haryana participated in the Mahapanchayat. <br />
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5. While Hindus were returning from Mahapanchayat, they were ambushed by a well-armed Muslim mob attacked with weapons (guns and swords). 1 journalist,a cameraman and atleast 3 Hindus villagers were murdered in this attack. Many were critically wounded. 12 villagers were murdered in this cowardly attack.<br />
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6. There is a protocol of submitting all licenced weapons in the Kotwali during a curfew. The administration did nothing.<br />
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English Language Media maintains total silence about pointing fingers at the true culprits (Islamists) due to their honeymoon with Islamists &amp; because the riot is not in Gujarat.<br />
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epaper.jagran.com/ePaperArticle/08-sep-2013-edition-Muzaffarnagar-page_6-311-4899-33.html</blockquote>
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A comment at HK:<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]10/09/2013 01:54:35  <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">See the pattern The English and Electronic<br />
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Media is filled with Low life gutter born sub humans</span><br />
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1. Multi brand retail is slapped on India, agitation about to emerge, suddenly media brings up Delhi rape case in graphic almost obscene detail, courtesy Italian Sonia and the gutter media, (that day itself HK brought our news of two other rapes and killing one by ML MLA and another by a [color="#800080"][christian**][/color] priest, but no mention of it)<br />
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2.Pawan Bansal is caught in conspiracy to defraud the nation..suddenly the evil media shifts to Srinivasan's resignation and cricket betting <br />
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3.Coalgate scam emerges the bloody traitor media low lives and sonia Mme conspire to create "synchronized riots" for Bangladeshis in India<br />
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4. Coalgate files get "stolen" from the most protected place in the world, the VVVVIP south block (everybody knows under whose foreign direction", the Muzaffarnagar riots are CREATED<br />
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5. Indian soldiers are killed by Pakistanis and Chinese capture Indian land, pressure on sonia congress the gutter born media mafiosi divert attention to mumbai rape drama<br />
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6. Rashtriya Jijaji Robert Vadra 11000 crore scam, and 17,000 CRORE railway scam emerges, the foreign controlled corrupt media of Bandarbongo and christain evil mafia illiterate and uncultured uncouth evil falsely conduct a media trial of Hindu Old Saint ASARAM BAPUJI despite their shameless faces being exposed in Swami Nithyananda case on directions of Xian Sonia and terrorists<br />
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7 IF ANYBODY NOTICED THE TOI-let bought Karnataka times just a day before the Mumbai train blasts and ran a article supporting the terrorists the next day, the shameless pimp of WCC argued that blasts were in First class compts only being travelled by Gujaratis<br />
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3. <a href="http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17852" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17852</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Lust Jihad , The reason behind Muzaffarnagar riots - VHP</span><br />
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MEDIA STATEMENT OF SRI ASHOKJI SINGHAL PATRON, VISHVA HINDU PARISHAD<br />
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New Delhi, September 11, 2013 - The stalking and felonious behaviour of the Ã¢â¬ËLove JihadisÃ¢â¬â¢ with a Hindu girl student returning from her Kisaan Inter-College was the immediate provocation for the grave incidents that took place at the Kawal village of Muzaffarnagar in Uttar Pradesh on 27th August, 2013. The root cause is the Lust Jihad being conducted under the garb of Muslim religion. This incident gave birth to the convening of the Ã¢â¬ÅBahu, Beti BachaoÃ¢â¬Â (Ã¢â¬ÅSave Women and DaughtersÃ¢â¬Â) Maha Panchayat. When the society could no longer bear the Ã¢â¬ËLove JihadistsÃ¢â¬â¢ outraging the modesty and dignity of Hindu women and girls in rural and urban areas of U.P. the corrective movement in the form of the Ã¢â¬ÅBahu Beti Bachao MahapanchayatÃ¢â¬Â came into being.<br />
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A number of newspapers, news agencies and electronic media channels have been trying to hide these facts for reasons best known to them. Why was this movement bannered as Ã¢â¬ÅBahu, Beti Bachao AndolanÃ¢â¬Â? When the Love Jihadis in the rabidly pro-Muslim Government of Mulayam Singh found themselves to be above law and conducted themselves accordingly, that compelled the Hindu society to stand on its own feet to safeguard itself. The Love Jihad is not only targeting Bharat (India) and Hindus but also Buddhists and Christians everywhere in the world. These godless Lust Jihadis donning the garb of Muslim religion as a major weapon have, for the last half a century, been targeting the Hindu girls, women, girl students. During the last parliamentary elections the Hindu women had put this problem before Sri Varun Gandhi for an answer as to how to save themselves from these Jihadis.<br />
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A solution to this problem has to be found in the said context only. On 27th August, 2013, Gaurav and Sachin Ã¢â¬â the two brothers of the victim girl student Ã¢â¬â were hacked to death by Jihadists and then on 30th August, 2013 a huge meeting in support of the Jihadists was allowed to be held in Muzaffarnagar in spite of the curfew under 144 CrPC in place and the family of the victims was accused for all the incidents of Kawal. This laxity on the part of the government emboldening the Jihadists added fuel to the fire infuriating the victims which led to the convening of the Ã¢â¬ÅBahu, Batiyaan BachaoÃ¢â¬Â Maha Panchayat. As a consequence of government support to Jihadists the sparks and fire spread to the entire district and slaughters and arsons took place in villages and urban areas. The Hindus and Muslims had been living in harmony, peace and love all these decades, but the lustful Jihadis made them enemies in no time.<br />
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A lesson to be learnt from all these incidents is that a legal ban on Love Jihadis needs to be imposed and the law strictly followed and also the murderer Love Jihadis involved in these incidents given exemplary punishment, otherwise the self-respecting Hindu, even if unwillingly, has to take the responsibility of self-protection into his/her own hands, which would be a matter of shame and suicidal for a government formed under systems of law and constitution.<br />
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The state of affairs has come to such a pass that the people have lost all confidence in the Chief Minister Akhilesh Singh government. They also have a compelling feeling that this government is celebrating and emboldening the Love Jihadis on the one hand and crushing the 84-Kosi Parikrama on the other which is why the Hindu society can expect any semblance of justice if this government is dismissed forthwith.</blockquote>
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4. <a href="http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17834" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17834&amp;SKIN=B</a><br />
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07/09/2013 21:46:42  hinduexistence.org<br />
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Nine people, a journalist and a photographer among them, were killed and 34 others injured on Saturday during fresh clashes between members of two communities in Muzaffarnagar, where an incident of violence 10 days ago has kept communal tensions simmering.<br />
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Rajesh Verma, an IBN7 journalist, was critically wounded when some unidentified men in a mob fired indiscriminately in Khalapar area. He succumbed during treatment.<br />
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The photographer, Israr, hired by the police, was beaten to death in Sekeda village by a group of people returning from a meeting held in Naglabadhod. The meeting was held in defiance of prohibitory orders, for seeking withdrawal of the cases registered against those accused of August 27 Kawal violence.<br />
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It is told that two Hindus are died in the violence while four Muslims are died, while the chance of more casualties cannot be ignored in the face of spreading violence.<br />
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SaturdayÃ¢â¬â¢s violence started when a group of people going to attend a meeting of Maha Panchayat at Naglabadhod clashed with the members of another community in Shahpur village en route. About six people were injured in the clash. A few of them reached the meeting venue and told the people about the attack.<br />
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When the meeting ended and the people dispersed, a clash broke out at Meenakshi crossing of the city. This time, the two groups used firearms. Soon, the violence spread to rural areas such as Basiakla, Almaspur, Mujhera of the district as well.<br />
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Violence broke out again in the Kawal area when members of a community returning from a Maha Panchayat meeting in Naglabadhod clashed with members of another community.<br />
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The incident comes shortly after Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde said that incidents of communal violence have increased in the country and cautioned all States to remain alert and foil any attempt to disturb peace ahead of the general elections. Ã¢â¬ÅCommunal violence incidents have increased since last year. While 410 incidents occurred in the country last year, this year, till now, 451 incidents have taken place,Ã¢â¬Â he told reporters in New Delhi.<br />
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The tension initially brewed up when three persons were killed on August 27 over a dispute which has now culminated into a communal rift between two communities.<br />
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Read More : hinduexistence.org/2013/09/08/communal-riot-in-muzaffarnagar-took-six-lives-injuring-thirty-four-united-hindus-must-choose-the-way-of-best-defense/</blockquote>
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5. <a href="http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17839" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17839</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Muzaffarnagar violence toll climbs to 26, UP Governor blames Akhilesh govt.</span><br />
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08/09/2013 22:03:41  indiatoday.intoday.in<br />
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Muzaffarnagar is in a state of lockdown. Simmering tensions between communities in the state erupted in full scale violence have claimed 26 lives. With the situation worsening beyond the control of the state police, the Army had to be called in and curfew was imposed in the sensitive areas.<br />
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The Army staged flag marches in several places in the district. However, thousands of anti-riot police personnel were deployed to restore the law and order situation.<br />
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Meanwhile, Uttar Pradesh Governor B.L. Joshi has slammed the Akhilesh Yadav government's handling of the riot situation in Muzaffarnagar.<br />
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While forwarding the state's report on the situation following the riots to the Centre,  the Governor in his comments has said that the state government failed to act despite being warned earlier. The Centre had sought a report from the state government on the situation.<br />
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All entry points to Muzaffarnagar including UP-Uttarakhand borders have been sealed. All outlying villages are being patrolled to maintain calm.<br />
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The villages are still volatile. 11 deaths were reported from the district even after the deployment of the Army. While the urban stretches have been brought under control, the villages are still tense. There were reports of violence from neighbouring Meerut as well.<br />
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The restive areas are now a fortress with the deployment of 19 companies of PAC, 14 of RAF, 19 of CRPF and 4 of ITBP.<br />
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There are 4 IG rank officers, 3 SPs, 18 ASPs and 119 sub-inspectors on duty doing round the clock monitoring of the situation.<br />
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Police said 52 persons have been arrested. "As it (violence) is going on in several villages, it is taking time to defuse the situation," Additional Director General of Police Arun Kumar, who took stock of the situation in the affected areas, said.<br />
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Saxena said that adequate force has been deployed in the affected areas and incidents of violence have been reported from Sisauli, Shahpur, Kalapar and Dhaurakala areas of Muzaffarnagar.<br />
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At one place, Army had to resort to firing after someone opened fire at them, he said. Asked whether shoot-at-sight orders have been given, the Home Secretary said that directives have been issued to control the situation and for that if necessary firing can be done.<br />
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Read more : indiatoday.intoday.in/story/muzaffarnagar-violence-toll-climbs-to-26-up-governor-blames-akhilesh-govt/1/308926.html</blockquote>
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A comment at HK:<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Army and Police should have conducted a house to house search for hidden weapons. If reports of Muslim snipers targeting Armed forces is true, it is a very grave situation. Who trained these snipers, where and when ?</span> Are they SIMI operatives or Pakistanis being sheltered by the local Muslims ? Extensive investigation is needed in future national interest also.[/color] It is better if President's rule is imposed straight away and full fledged investigations done, as otherwise the SP government will sabotage the case to appease the Muslims. These are the people who wanted to withdraw terrorist cases. A serious debate needs to be done as to whether Law &amp; Order should remain a State subject, in the hands of crooked politicans like Akilesh and Mamta, it can be disastrous for national security.</blockquote>
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1. rajeev2004.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/muzaffarnagar-up-riots-reaction-to_10.html<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Tuesday, September 10, 2013<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">MuzaffarNagar, U.P riots: a reaction to SECULAR rape</span> <br />
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[color="#800080"]("Secular" obviously deliberately used as it's the term the christomedia gives to all <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">christoislamic rapistry</span>, most especially when conducted against conveniently anonymised Hindu victim communities)[/color]<br />
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The MuzaffarNagar riots are not some mischief mongering by "right wing" Hindoos. This is apparently a natural reaction to a grave provocation by ROP Jihad Romeos. See below for a shockingly long list of atrocities waged by the ROP "youth" under the benign watch of Maulana Singh Yadav. It is actually surprising that the reaction took such a long time to come and was quite restrained - in proportion to these atrocities. <br />
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1) Dec 21, 2012: Muzaffarnagar panchayat offers rape victim 1.5 L to keep quiet. Alleged Rapist? Tasavvur. <br />
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2)Dec 24, 2012: Minor girl gang-raped by 3 youths in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged Rapists?Javed, Pervaiz &amp; Mannan <br />
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3) Dec 29, 2012: Girl was raped in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged Rapists? Shauqueen and Rahil. <br />
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4) 17 Feb 18, 2013: Gang-rape by 4, filmed in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged Rapists? Naushad, Pravaiz, Hasan &amp; Nazar.<br />
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dnaindia.com/india/1801209/report-woman-gang-raped-by-four-men-filmed-in-muzaffarnagar<br />
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Feb 2013 : Woman gangraped by four men and FILMED. Rapists ? Naushad, Pravaiz, Hasan and Nazar<br />
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5) Jul 8, 2013: Man [color="#800080"](Mehraj)[/color] shot dead for demanding arrest of gangrapists. Alleged Murderers? Bhura, Afzal, Mehtab, Yusuf, Farid, Hashim &amp; Islam<br />
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6) Aug 23, 2013: A schoolgirl gangraped by 5 youths in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged main Rapist? Salman.<br />
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7) Aug 24, 2013: A Class IX student raped by youth in Muzaffarnagar. Alleged Rapist? Dilshad.<br />
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8) Aug 30, 2013: Muslim cleric arrested for abducting 11 year old girl. Alleged Abductor? Imam Abdul Rahim.<br />
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For a complete list of crimes, check the following crisp work of reporting: indiawires.com/25917/news/national/series-of-rapes-behind-muzaffarnagar-riots/</blockquote>
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2. <a href="http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17843" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17843</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Muzaffarnagar: 1.5 Lakh Hindus rally against Islamists' attacks ; Toll rise to 31</span><br />
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(Muzaffarnagar) Current Official Death Toll is 31 and Rising ! <br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">[color="#FF0000"]Muslim snipers are firing at the Army from rooftops and mosques.[/color]</span><br />
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Sequence of events that lead to fresh #UPRiots in Muzzafarnagar.<br />
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1. A Hindu Girl was teased and molested by Muslims.<br />
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2.Two angry brothers (unarmed) of the girl took on the Muslim molesters who pulled out their knives to stab them. But the two brothers snatched away one Muslim's knife and in self-defence, inflicted fatal wounds on the attacker. The 2 brothers were chased here-and-there by 100-150 Muslims for 25 minutes, had their head/throats slashed with swords and were beaten to death by Muslim mob who openly supported the Muslim molesters. <br />
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3. The village erupted with anger and helplessness reached heights when the media termed it as a small incident &amp;UP Police inaction.<br />
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3. The villagers organized "Mahapanchayat " to look into the brutal killings of 2 brothers.<br />
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4.Over 1.5 Lakh Hindu villagers from Western UP, Delhi, Haryana participated in the Mahapanchayat. <br />
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5. While Hindus were returning from Mahapanchayat, they were ambushed by a well-armed Muslim mob attacked with weapons (guns and swords). 1 journalist,a cameraman and atleast 3 Hindus villagers were murdered in this attack. Many were critically wounded. 12 villagers were murdered in this cowardly attack.<br />
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6. There is a protocol of submitting all licenced weapons in the Kotwali during a curfew. The administration did nothing.<br />
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English Language Media maintains total silence about pointing fingers at the true culprits (Islamists) due to their honeymoon with Islamists &amp; because the riot is not in Gujarat.<br />
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epaper.jagran.com/ePaperArticle/08-sep-2013-edition-Muzaffarnagar-page_6-311-4899-33.html</blockquote>
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[color="#0000FF"]10/09/2013 01:54:35  <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">See the pattern The English and Electronic<br />
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Media is filled with Low life gutter born sub humans</span><br />
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1. Multi brand retail is slapped on India, agitation about to emerge, suddenly media brings up Delhi rape case in graphic almost obscene detail, courtesy Italian Sonia and the gutter media, (that day itself HK brought our news of two other rapes and killing one by ML MLA and another by a [color="#800080"][christian**][/color] priest, but no mention of it)<br />
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2.Pawan Bansal is caught in conspiracy to defraud the nation..suddenly the evil media shifts to Srinivasan's resignation and cricket betting <br />
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3.Coalgate scam emerges the bloody traitor media low lives and sonia Mme conspire to create "synchronized riots" for Bangladeshis in India<br />
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4. Coalgate files get "stolen" from the most protected place in the world, the VVVVIP south block (everybody knows under whose foreign direction", the Muzaffarnagar riots are CREATED<br />
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5. Indian soldiers are killed by Pakistanis and Chinese capture Indian land, pressure on sonia congress the gutter born media mafiosi divert attention to mumbai rape drama<br />
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6. Rashtriya Jijaji Robert Vadra 11000 crore scam, and 17,000 CRORE railway scam emerges, the foreign controlled corrupt media of Bandarbongo and christain evil mafia illiterate and uncultured uncouth evil falsely conduct a media trial of Hindu Old Saint ASARAM BAPUJI despite their shameless faces being exposed in Swami Nithyananda case on directions of Xian Sonia and terrorists<br />
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7 IF ANYBODY NOTICED THE TOI-let bought Karnataka times just a day before the Mumbai train blasts and ran a article supporting the terrorists the next day, the shameless pimp of WCC argued that blasts were in First class compts only being travelled by Gujaratis<br />
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It is surpisng that Gujaratis allow these monkey bandarlok and chistian pimps in their state. They should have long ago stopped buying these pigbelters channels and TOIlets[/color]</blockquote>
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3. <a href="http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17852" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17852</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Lust Jihad , The reason behind Muzaffarnagar riots - VHP</span><br />
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MEDIA STATEMENT OF SRI ASHOKJI SINGHAL PATRON, VISHVA HINDU PARISHAD<br />
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New Delhi, September 11, 2013 - The stalking and felonious behaviour of the Ã¢â¬ËLove JihadisÃ¢â¬â¢ with a Hindu girl student returning from her Kisaan Inter-College was the immediate provocation for the grave incidents that took place at the Kawal village of Muzaffarnagar in Uttar Pradesh on 27th August, 2013. The root cause is the Lust Jihad being conducted under the garb of Muslim religion. This incident gave birth to the convening of the Ã¢â¬ÅBahu, Beti BachaoÃ¢â¬Â (Ã¢â¬ÅSave Women and DaughtersÃ¢â¬Â) Maha Panchayat. When the society could no longer bear the Ã¢â¬ËLove JihadistsÃ¢â¬â¢ outraging the modesty and dignity of Hindu women and girls in rural and urban areas of U.P. the corrective movement in the form of the Ã¢â¬ÅBahu Beti Bachao MahapanchayatÃ¢â¬Â came into being.<br />
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A number of newspapers, news agencies and electronic media channels have been trying to hide these facts for reasons best known to them. Why was this movement bannered as Ã¢â¬ÅBahu, Beti Bachao AndolanÃ¢â¬Â? When the Love Jihadis in the rabidly pro-Muslim Government of Mulayam Singh found themselves to be above law and conducted themselves accordingly, that compelled the Hindu society to stand on its own feet to safeguard itself. The Love Jihad is not only targeting Bharat (India) and Hindus but also Buddhists and Christians everywhere in the world. These godless Lust Jihadis donning the garb of Muslim religion as a major weapon have, for the last half a century, been targeting the Hindu girls, women, girl students. During the last parliamentary elections the Hindu women had put this problem before Sri Varun Gandhi for an answer as to how to save themselves from these Jihadis.<br />
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A solution to this problem has to be found in the said context only. On 27th August, 2013, Gaurav and Sachin Ã¢â¬â the two brothers of the victim girl student Ã¢â¬â were hacked to death by Jihadists and then on 30th August, 2013 a huge meeting in support of the Jihadists was allowed to be held in Muzaffarnagar in spite of the curfew under 144 CrPC in place and the family of the victims was accused for all the incidents of Kawal. This laxity on the part of the government emboldening the Jihadists added fuel to the fire infuriating the victims which led to the convening of the Ã¢â¬ÅBahu, Batiyaan BachaoÃ¢â¬Â Maha Panchayat. As a consequence of government support to Jihadists the sparks and fire spread to the entire district and slaughters and arsons took place in villages and urban areas. The Hindus and Muslims had been living in harmony, peace and love all these decades, but the lustful Jihadis made them enemies in no time.<br />
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A lesson to be learnt from all these incidents is that a legal ban on Love Jihadis needs to be imposed and the law strictly followed and also the murderer Love Jihadis involved in these incidents given exemplary punishment, otherwise the self-respecting Hindu, even if unwillingly, has to take the responsibility of self-protection into his/her own hands, which would be a matter of shame and suicidal for a government formed under systems of law and constitution.<br />
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The state of affairs has come to such a pass that the people have lost all confidence in the Chief Minister Akhilesh Singh government. They also have a compelling feeling that this government is celebrating and emboldening the Love Jihadis on the one hand and crushing the 84-Kosi Parikrama on the other which is why the Hindu society can expect any semblance of justice if this government is dismissed forthwith.</blockquote>
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(Poor naive VHP. Won't blame islam outright and doesn't know to detect and blame christianism conspiring with islam either.)<br />
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Nine people, a journalist and a photographer among them, were killed and 34 others injured on Saturday during fresh clashes between members of two communities in Muzaffarnagar, where an incident of violence 10 days ago has kept communal tensions simmering.<br />
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Rajesh Verma, an IBN7 journalist, was critically wounded when some unidentified men in a mob fired indiscriminately in Khalapar area. He succumbed during treatment.<br />
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The photographer, Israr, hired by the police, was beaten to death in Sekeda village by a group of people returning from a meeting held in Naglabadhod. The meeting was held in defiance of prohibitory orders, for seeking withdrawal of the cases registered against those accused of August 27 Kawal violence.<br />
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It is told that two Hindus are died in the violence while four Muslims are died, while the chance of more casualties cannot be ignored in the face of spreading violence.<br />
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SaturdayÃ¢â¬â¢s violence started when a group of people going to attend a meeting of Maha Panchayat at Naglabadhod clashed with the members of another community in Shahpur village en route. About six people were injured in the clash. A few of them reached the meeting venue and told the people about the attack.<br />
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When the meeting ended and the people dispersed, a clash broke out at Meenakshi crossing of the city. This time, the two groups used firearms. Soon, the violence spread to rural areas such as Basiakla, Almaspur, Mujhera of the district as well.<br />
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Violence broke out again in the Kawal area when members of a community returning from a Maha Panchayat meeting in Naglabadhod clashed with members of another community.<br />
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The incident comes shortly after Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde said that incidents of communal violence have increased in the country and cautioned all States to remain alert and foil any attempt to disturb peace ahead of the general elections. Ã¢â¬ÅCommunal violence incidents have increased since last year. While 410 incidents occurred in the country last year, this year, till now, 451 incidents have taken place,Ã¢â¬Â he told reporters in New Delhi.<br />
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The tension initially brewed up when three persons were killed on August 27 over a dispute which has now culminated into a communal rift between two communities.<br />
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Read More : hinduexistence.org/2013/09/08/communal-riot-in-muzaffarnagar-took-six-lives-injuring-thirty-four-united-hindus-must-choose-the-way-of-best-defense/</blockquote>
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5. <a href="http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17839" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=17839</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Muzaffarnagar violence toll climbs to 26, UP Governor blames Akhilesh govt.</span><br />
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08/09/2013 22:03:41  indiatoday.intoday.in<br />
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Muzaffarnagar is in a state of lockdown. Simmering tensions between communities in the state erupted in full scale violence have claimed 26 lives. With the situation worsening beyond the control of the state police, the Army had to be called in and curfew was imposed in the sensitive areas.<br />
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The Army staged flag marches in several places in the district. However, thousands of anti-riot police personnel were deployed to restore the law and order situation.<br />
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Meanwhile, Uttar Pradesh Governor B.L. Joshi has slammed the Akhilesh Yadav government's handling of the riot situation in Muzaffarnagar.<br />
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While forwarding the state's report on the situation following the riots to the Centre,  the Governor in his comments has said that the state government failed to act despite being warned earlier. The Centre had sought a report from the state government on the situation.<br />
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All entry points to Muzaffarnagar including UP-Uttarakhand borders have been sealed. All outlying villages are being patrolled to maintain calm.<br />
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The villages are still volatile. 11 deaths were reported from the district even after the deployment of the Army. While the urban stretches have been brought under control, the villages are still tense. There were reports of violence from neighbouring Meerut as well.<br />
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The restive areas are now a fortress with the deployment of 19 companies of PAC, 14 of RAF, 19 of CRPF and 4 of ITBP.<br />
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There are 4 IG rank officers, 3 SPs, 18 ASPs and 119 sub-inspectors on duty doing round the clock monitoring of the situation.<br />
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Police said 52 persons have been arrested. "As it (violence) is going on in several villages, it is taking time to defuse the situation," Additional Director General of Police Arun Kumar, who took stock of the situation in the affected areas, said.<br />
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Saxena said that adequate force has been deployed in the affected areas and incidents of violence have been reported from Sisauli, Shahpur, Kalapar and Dhaurakala areas of Muzaffarnagar.<br />
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At one place, Army had to resort to firing after someone opened fire at them, he said. Asked whether shoot-at-sight orders have been given, the Home Secretary said that directives have been issued to control the situation and for that if necessary firing can be done.<br />
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Read more : indiatoday.intoday.in/story/muzaffarnagar-violence-toll-climbs-to-26-up-governor-blames-akhilesh-govt/1/308926.html</blockquote>
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A comment at HK:<br />
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[color="#0000FF"]<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Army and Police should have conducted a house to house search for hidden weapons. If reports of Muslim snipers targeting Armed forces is true, it is a very grave situation. Who trained these snipers, where and when ?</span> Are they SIMI operatives or Pakistanis being sheltered by the local Muslims ? Extensive investigation is needed in future national interest also.[/color] It is better if President's rule is imposed straight away and full fledged investigations done, as otherwise the SP government will sabotage the case to appease the Muslims. These are the people who wanted to withdraw terrorist cases. A serious debate needs to be done as to whether Law &amp; Order should remain a State subject, in the hands of crooked politicans like Akilesh and Mamta, it can be disastrous for national security.</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Christoislamic terrorist agenda in TN: targeting of Hindus in key positions]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=35</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 04:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This thread's on:<br />
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<span style="color: red;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Key</span></span> HindOOOs of Tamizh Nadu getting hacked to pieces/otherwise murdered by christoislamania, as per the christoislamic agenda for the state (while the christoislamaniac culprits keep getting off for the crime, which shows that it's all orchestrated and carefully pre-planned).<br />
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I'm not (yet) sure if <br />
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* It's christianism a la the northeast where christian terrorists keep hacking key Hindoos to death in just this manner.<br />
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* Or whether it's islam like in Kerala etc where islamic terrorists more often than christian terrorists keep hacking key Hindoos to death.<br />
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* Or whether this is part of the larger case where christianism is acting in tandem with islam. I think it's the last: christianism having already prepared the ground in TN for takeover (including by terrorist means) - considering christianism has already been gearing up to make TN the next Kerala and Andhra Pradesh - and so it gave islam the green light to murder Hindus with impunity, where the deal is that islam will do the knife-work (christianism may or may not be the brains identifying which key Hindus are to be the target), while christianism will get islam off scott-free and ensure that the Hindu victims get no justice. &lt;- And that matches the overall christian government of India's policy on How To Convert with the still-majority Hindu country, so the tactic is not peculiar to TN. And the fact that now politicians get murdered and their murderers will never get caught/punished, and how the main christomedia will deliberately not link the murders together in a chain of related events but will present each murder as an out-of-the-blue/who-could-possibly-have-dunnit type story, that just underlines it all the more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This thread's on:<br />
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<span style="color: red;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Key</span></span> HindOOOs of Tamizh Nadu getting hacked to pieces/otherwise murdered by christoislamania, as per the christoislamic agenda for the state (while the christoislamaniac culprits keep getting off for the crime, which shows that it's all orchestrated and carefully pre-planned).<br />
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I'm not (yet) sure if <br />
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* It's christianism a la the northeast where christian terrorists keep hacking key Hindoos to death in just this manner.<br />
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* Or whether it's islam like in Kerala etc where islamic terrorists more often than christian terrorists keep hacking key Hindoos to death.<br />
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* Or whether this is part of the larger case where christianism is acting in tandem with islam. I think it's the last: christianism having already prepared the ground in TN for takeover (including by terrorist means) - considering christianism has already been gearing up to make TN the next Kerala and Andhra Pradesh - and so it gave islam the green light to murder Hindus with impunity, where the deal is that islam will do the knife-work (christianism may or may not be the brains identifying which key Hindus are to be the target), while christianism will get islam off scott-free and ensure that the Hindu victims get no justice. &lt;- And that matches the overall christian government of India's policy on How To Convert with the still-majority Hindu country, so the tactic is not peculiar to TN. And the fact that now politicians get murdered and their murderers will never get caught/punished, and how the main christomedia will deliberately not link the murders together in a chain of related events but will present each murder as an out-of-the-blue/who-could-possibly-have-dunnit type story, that just underlines it all the more.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Bharat that is India that is Uttar Pradesh]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=37</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=32">G.Subramaniam</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[India that is bharat that is Uttar pradesh - is the quote used by Dr.Syama Prasad Mukerji on describing Nehrus callous attitude toward Bengali Hindus<br />
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The so called national interest has been defined by a set of Congress satraps, mostly brahmin of Uttar Pradesh and Bihar<br />
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I shall examine whether this so called national interest is really national interest or simply dumb North Indian brahmins lacking strategic foresight]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[India that is bharat that is Uttar pradesh - is the quote used by Dr.Syama Prasad Mukerji on describing Nehrus callous attitude toward Bengali Hindus<br />
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The so called national interest has been defined by a set of Congress satraps, mostly brahmin of Uttar Pradesh and Bihar<br />
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I shall examine whether this so called national interest is really national interest or simply dumb North Indian brahmins lacking strategic foresight]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Indian muslims in their own words]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=38</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=32">G.Subramaniam</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Muslims have never agreed that partition put an end to this problem.  As I have mentioned in a recent article, Mr Hasan Surhawardy, Chief Minister of undivided Bengal, had pointed out in 1946 that, "Pakistan is not our last demand".  In his letter written after the partition to Choudhary Khaliquzzaman, Mr Surhawardy had propounded the. idea of a Muslim majority area in India.  It is without significance that the post-independence trend of Muslim politics in India has followed the direction laid down by Mr Jinnah and Mr Surhawardy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Muslims have never agreed that partition put an end to this problem.  As I have mentioned in a recent article, Mr Hasan Surhawardy, Chief Minister of undivided Bengal, had pointed out in 1946 that, "Pakistan is not our last demand".  In his letter written after the partition to Choudhary Khaliquzzaman, Mr Surhawardy had propounded the. idea of a Muslim majority area in India.  It is without significance that the post-independence trend of Muslim politics in India has followed the direction laid down by Mr Jinnah and Mr Surhawardy.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Upananda Brahmachari]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=39</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=32">G.Subramaniam</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Moderators - delete this thread<br />
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I am transferring this to other over-lapping threads]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[The coming islamic partition of India and what can be salvaged]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=41</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=32">G.Subramaniam</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[It is increasingly clear, that the Indian muslims are back to their pre-partition<br />
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Direct Action Day type Jihadism<br />
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It is also clear, that we will lose land and millions dead<br />
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While at some future century, Akhand Bharat is the final goal,<br />
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the immediate problem of the 21st century is what to salvage and how to salvage]]></description>
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Direct Action Day type Jihadism<br />
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It is also clear, that we will lose land and millions dead<br />
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While at some future century, Akhand Bharat is the final goal,<br />
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the immediate problem of the 21st century is what to salvage and how to salvage]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Bodo vs Bangladeshi]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=44</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 06:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=32">G.Subramaniam</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[In the battle for salvaging Assam, I shall look at the role of the Bodos vs Bangladeshis]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Israel and China]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=78</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=599">Meluhhan</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Israel has been providing all sorts of [url="http://articles.latimes.com/1990-06-13/news/mn-95_1_military-cooperation"]military aid to China[/url]:<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>" . . . They (the Israelis) are never caught red-handed. They are never found with a missile in their hands. It's always (Israeli) technicians and technology transfer. When the Israeli technicians go to China, it's hard to tell what else is being discussed."</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Israel has been providing all sorts of [url="http://articles.latimes.com/1990-06-13/news/mn-95_1_military-cooperation"]military aid to China[/url]:<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>" . . . They (the Israelis) are never caught red-handed. They are never found with a missile in their hands. It's always (Israeli) technicians and technology transfer. When the Israeli technicians go to China, it's hard to tell what else is being discussed."</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Orwellian Surveillance Society]]></title>
			<link>https://india-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=84</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://india-forum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=318">sumishi</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">[size="3"]The objective of this thread is to collect news and information related to covert/overt monitoring of activities of people by governments and establishments, along with data-warehousing of captured data followed by data mining and profiling of individuals.<br />
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This is the surveillance society that Orwell describes in his dystopian novel "1984," published in 1949.<br />
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Orwell's dystopia is not much different from how things seem to be panning out.<br />
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My comments, within quoted material, will be [color="#ff00ff"]{ like this }[/color]<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">[size="3"]The objective of this thread is to collect news and information related to covert/overt monitoring of activities of people by governments and establishments, along with data-warehousing of captured data followed by data mining and profiling of individuals.<br />
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This is the surveillance society that Orwell describes in his dystopian novel "1984," published in 1949.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Orwell's dystopia is not much different from how things seem to be panning out.<br />
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My comments, within quoted material, will be [color="#ff00ff"]{ like this }[/color]<br />
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