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Thu, 03 Jun 2010 04:07:22 +0000

This is a childrenÃ¢â¬â¢s book from 1971 (back when I was a child) but I am ashamed to admit it was lurking in our adult collection until very recently. I found it when I was looking for something else. I particularly love the lady police officers.

www.publiclibraries.com/

Nuclear Thread - 3

Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:48:08 +0000

Nuclear deal is so important for Queen and Moron Singh that they are ready to empty banks, and even thinking of election. Major problem, people had short memory plus inflation is so high, it will offset everything.

Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 4

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:52:14 +0000

A Critique of Inter-country Adoption
by Lee Sam-dol (Tobias)

warning: strong language used

HEC2007 Distorted History

Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:05:33 +0000

Call for papers

Pakistan News And Discussion-12

Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:15:19 +0000

âEre We Go!, âEre We Go!!, âEre We Go!!! /clap.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='clap.gif' />

Again /ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' />

[center]22 killed in guerrilla raid and suicide attack in Pakistan /Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /> [/center]

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Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 3

Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:16:22 +0000

Link to older thread

Bomb Blasts In India - 1

Tue, 22 May 2007 14:59:33 +0000

Gorakhpur market rocked by serial blasts, at least 6 injured

Gorakhpur, May 22: Three blasts rocked Gorakhpur around 7 pm on Tuesday. The first blast took place near Baldev Plaza, the second near Golghar crossing and the third occurred in Jalkal Building. The bombs, apparently crude in nature, were kept in tiffin boxes which were planted in a scooter and a bicycle. At least six people were reportedly injured in the blasts as preliminary reports came in. The injured were carried to the hospitals by the local people.

The blasts took place in a crowded area one after another within an interval 10 minutes. People were seen running for cover when the blasts took place.

District Administration and senior police officials reached the spot to take stock of the situation. A red alert has been sounded in the districts of Lucknow and Varanasi.

The ADM City, P K Agarwal denied any serious injuries and said that the injured have been admitted to the nearby City Hospital. He said the bombs were kept in a polythene bag which were planted on a scooter and cycle.

Meanwhile, bomb defusing squads have been despatched along with a police investigative team to the different blast sites from Lucknow.

Pakistan News And Discussion-11

Thu, 17 May 2007 16:24:34 +0000

link

Suppression Of Hindu Narrative

Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:09:58 +0000

The main stream media in India is 'supposed' to exihibit an anti-Hindu bias. The politicians go on appeasement sprees suppressing legitimate Hindu concerns. The Westerners are accused to have a distinct anti-Hindu (and anti-India) bias.

Let us give some teeth to our accusations and claims by documenting the actions that suppress our Hinduness. This thread is not to discuss if the suppression occurs or not, it is purely about observation and recording an act of suppression.

My thoughts are that this thread should record the fact without any opinion, commentary or editoralization. Let the facts stand out to speak for themselves. If a member wants to counter a post, IMHO, s/he could start a thread and discuss it elsewhere. And if the member, who posted the tid-bit (information), concedes that it is not an act of suppresseion s/he can edit or add som remarks to the original post.

When we cry wolf, let us make sure there is really a wolf. Ladies and Gentlmen the ball is in our court...

Communal Relations - Conflicting Narratives

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:47:04 +0000

Ladies and Gentlemen.

I would like to have your indulgence by starting a topic of discussion at India Forum, a topic that has been axed (banned) at Bharat-Rakshak. All the participants have been advised/suggested to come to India-Forum. Thus I ask India Forum to welcome participants who may take refuge here for active discussion that are tough but important.

For new participants from BR I would like to request them to please start with a post introducing yourself or at least your BRF Handle/Name.

Let me start with the last post on this topic at Bharat-Rakshak Forum:
QUOTEShiv

This is an admin announcement

The heat generated in the last 10 religion threads and these last two threads on Communal tension/relations that followed on from the religion threads led to a vote among admins on BR as to whether the topics should be retained or not.

At last count the decision to lock this series of threads was reached by an admin vote of 8 for versus 4 against.

I will be locking this thread.

A suggestion has been made that these topics can be freely discussed on India Forum and a request that anyone who wishes to continue discussions on the issues should do so on India Forum.

http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

This thread will remain in a locked state for a while and then be consigned to the trashcan
QUOTEArun_SÂ 12 Apr 2007Â Â

If I may add a request.

For people who participate on this topic at India Forum, for continuity of discussion, it will be a good idea to use same user name as BR Forum or if you use a different user name, please announce your BRF ID so we do not have to discuss the same issues and familiarizes with where is person coming from (from contextual memory purpose).

I am glad to see BR Admin community recognizing India-Forum and listing its URL on BRF and asking people to participate there:

Link to India Forum: Discussion Someone please start a thread there by the name "Communal relations - conflicting narratives"

http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

Thank you Ladies and Gentlemen.
For back reference the old BR threads are:
Communal relations - conflicting narratives -Thread-1
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?t=3065

Communal relations - conflicting narratives -Thread-2
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic...er=asc&&start=0

Religion Discussion threads (10 threads archived):
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewforum...a7dc34f34ce19b9

I am convinced that people joining from Bharat-Rakshak will enjoy the environment here and also I trust India-Forum folks will also gain from the bigger collective fraternity of people who care about India.

Progress Of Indic Languages Vs English

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:17:33 +0000

Moderators are requested to please feel free to merge it to an existing thread of relevance if exists, or leave it if they think it is worth a thread.

There is a growing (natural or inspired) thought, that "good" future for India and Indians is only ensured by adopting the language of English as the primary language. I notice, many families for last 2 decades have started promoting English as the mother tounge of their children. Most 'elite' people, even very conservative in other matters, strnly opine on this matter, and generally support ENglish as the primary language of instruction. Many, in my observation, (still) feel that it is only English which has the caliber and strength, to keep India as one united nation and soceity.

But this self-sustained promotion of English language has a very far-reaching and deep implications on future of India. It is definitely worth exloring and analysing the progress of Indic languages (I am not referring to Sanskrit) vis-a-vis that of English in India.

I think this is worth analysis and discussion.

Let us begin with some facts:

- Only 5% population of India can speak, read or understand English.

- English is the language of elite, powerful, 'ruling class' of India.

- English is not growing in parallel to the growth of the Indic languages, but at the expense of them. Instead of complementing, English is competing with Indic.

- English is rapidly growing as the preferred medium of education, even at the primary level, driven by the economy.

- In B and C class cities, where the majority middle class of India lives, primary and secondary education is slowly being transformed into English-medium. However quality of language and instruction is very poor. This has impact on overall quality of education, and becomes a competitive burden rather than edge.

- There is a feeling that English can only be learnt if it is the PRIMARY language, thereby making Indic languages secondary or tertiary.

- In elite section of soceity, English is not just the language of instruction, but a trend is emerging for last couple of decades, where English is being promoted by families as the 'mother toungue' of children. Many times, Indic languages are taught just as a remote foreign language.

- At the same time, driven by cinema and telivision, a very un-cultured impure Indic language is being promoted. Those who watch Hindi TV channels, would probably know what I am talking about. Urdu and english mixed with Hindi, is what they call Hindi. And I am not referring to natural mixture of languages. I am referring to artificial, promoted, and deliberate bastardization of language. For instance, a few years back 'Samachar' was the common world for news. Now every channel uses 'Khabar'. Watch any Hindi movie...and you know what I mean. In 15 minutes you will catch at least 50 non-Hindi words - ones which are NOT naturally imported so far (I am not talking about Dunia and Maja and Kamij).

- Indian Corporates and business houses have adopted English not just as the commercial language, but even as cultural language. Logos, icons, what not.

- So far, till a couple of decades back, English was only one of the main languages of government business, others being on equal status. But now, English has become practially THE language, slowly becoming the ONLY language.

- It is a riddle to me, that movie-makers make movies in Indic languages, but are seen talking mainly in English on interviews, ceremonies, debates etc.

- Several times, pure Indic languages is a matter of ridicule. Not just in films but in real life. Try saying, "vichar-vimarsha" (discussion/exchange of views) in Delhi and see how people react. In films, purish Hindi is spoken by the comic characters, and is a matter of laughter. (Contrast to the movies of Amol Palekar era, where leads spoke good Hindi). I am not sure if the same situation exists in cinema of South.

- Literature richness. Indic languages, thanfully, are still churning out very good quality, vibrant, and well-received literature, and has a very good readership. All Indic languages are doing reasonably well here.

- Make no mistake, so far, English is NOT the language of people of India.

- No English newspaper is even in the top 10 most-read papers of India. largest read Hindi paper is read by more people than the readership of all English news papers added together. Even trend is that ENglish readership is shrinking and Indic growing.

- There is a feeling amongst those who take decisions, that except for English being the 'supreme' language, there is NO road possible for India, economically. Not just knowing good english is enough, English must be the first language.

- Many in the present generation already feel the same distance from prakrit languages, as others feel from Sanskrit. More than once I was surprised to find that, for many people, understanding a doha of Kabir or a chaupai of Tulsi is almost as difficult as understanding a shloka of Gita. Some, I have met, would mistake Tulsidas' dialect of Hindi (awadhi) to Sanskrit! But such are still a minority, although growing.

What do others feel?

Rama Setu -1

Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:38:40 +0000

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(After the war, upon asking, Sri Ram addresses Lakshamana that) "O Lakshaman, Lanka, even golden, interests me not. To me, mother and motherland are superior even to heaven (and whom I desire to go back to)" .... Valmiki Ramayan, Yuddha Kandam.

This is to wish everyone well on Rama Navami, the birthday of that great Sri Ramachandra.

Of course the sekoolar Government of India, which celebrates official central government holidays on the birthdays of Mohammed the Prophet, Jesus the Christ, and Gandhi the Mahatma, was working today, just like it does on the birthday of Sri Krishna... PMO office which usually releases the statements, forgot to release any greetings for darn yindoos... of course Prime Minister was too busy entertaining the state guests from Arabia.

Rahul Gandhi says, had a 'Gandhi' been in government in 1992, Babri would not have been demolished at Ram Janma Bhumi. Yes yes. Take revenge now. Demolish Rama Setu, peace be upon Babur. Crossed the coin? Cross the bridge now!

Some would just keep quiet and watch, as Baburs are at it right now. Some would cheer them, if not help. What shall rest of us do? By stand and watch? Ignorance is the culprit, misinformation the villain, inertia the crime.

This is an invitation to do what we can do. At least fight ignorance. At least challenge misinformation.

Here is a website some of us are trying to build. Just started, even hardly so. Domain bridgeofram.com is registered. Some initial content is staged at http://ramasetu.blogspot.com/ and a lot more to add.

I see this as an India Forum initiative and project. Request members to visit http://ramasetu.blogspot.com/, register the protest petition, and subscribe to the e-mail distribution list. Suggestions are welcome, contributions are sought.

Forum leaders: ideas, suggestions, advise? Hope it is fine?

Shall we be joined then, by grace of devi?

Christian Faith Healing Centre In Kerala

Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:11:24 +0000

If you think âCOMAâ type stories are possible only in the Western world, think again. In Kerala, the church is involved in murders of the christian faithful, who come to their faith healing centre. Recently in Tamil Nadu, four bishops stole Rs 40 crore meant for the Tsunami victims and some of them are arrested under goondas act. Kidney sale is a fact in Tamil Nadu and some 500 poor persons were forced to sell their kidneys to the christian hospitals operating there.

On 10 March 2006, the Kerala High Court issued an order with an ultimatum to the government to make a thorough investigation on the public allegation against the Christian Divine Retreat Centre in Muringoor in Kerala state, India. Justice Padmananbhan Nair has ordered the government to make a thorough investigation about sexual abuse, homicide, foreign exchange violation, forceful conversion, abduction, intimidation and imprisonment of unwilling residents at the center. The court decided to conduct the inquiry after receiving a complaint from a former christian employee of the centre. Some of the inmates had made two video CDs and sent a letter to the court for necessary action against the christian faith racket that was going on in Kerala with political and police protection. Divine Retreat Centre, started in the eighties, is a christian mafia faith healing centre. For several years, the general public and civic leaders have complained against Muringoor Christian center about the foreign currency violation, sex abuse, misdemeanor, felony, forceful conversion, murder, rape and abduction and medical malpractice committed at the center. The Kerala christian Churches are organized on the lines of Italian mafia and have undue influence on the government and government officials have turned a deaf year to the public plea against the anti social activities at the Center. Reluctantly, government has appointed IG Winson M Paul to investigate the Muringoor Divine center. The Marxist communist government of Kerala ordered only a partial investigation for fear of Christian backlash.

One of the Muringoor Divine Center Director George Panackal filed a law suit demanding one crore rupees for the police investigation and the High Court had dismissed the frivolous law suit. Pinaroy Vijayan, General Secretary of the Marxist communist Party, who was recently caught with live cartridges at Chennai airport, paid a visit to the Center and praised and admired their activities in public thus endorsing their illegal activities.

Many inmates were murdered for their wealth and the centre used to secretly cremate murdered bodies at the corporation graveyard in Kalamassery. Divine Retreat Centre is involved in illegal foreign funding to criminal and other activities. Many inmates were gone missing from this christian mafia centre over the years. It has been stated that almost twenty bodies have been burnt in the last four years alone. Dasan, the watchman of the corporation graveyard in Kalamassery said that he used to get Rs 750 for burning each body and that it was the same person who used to bring the bodies from the divine centre always. A christian doctor, Dr Thankamma Francis of the divine centre was the doctor who always used to issue death certificate to all those bodies cremated secretly. It should be noted that christians are not cremated in Kerala and are buried. The police investigation was carried out in Divine Retreat Centre on 30 September and 1 October 2006.

Sonia Gandhi had put christians in many states as the Inspector General of Police and Kerala is also a christian by name Winson M. Paul. The Kerala government had put Winson M. Paul for enquiring the illegal activities in the Divine faith healing centre and constituted a police team under him based on the court directive. Several public servants such as Inspectors General of Police and the wife of a State Minister are closely associated with the functioning of the Divine Centre. They are also members of the Advisory Body of the centre. A group of senior IAS, IPS and other government officials of Kerala are working behind this 'underworld' operations of the faith healing centre. This centre receives huge funds from the Social Welfare Department of Kerala government. Some 9000 people are on the voters list of the christian faith healing centre.

The congress party in India is christian controlled. The Italian catholic christian, Antonia Maino alias Sonia Gandhi is the president of the congress party of India. The congress party of Kerala state is headed by a christian who is a front man of a Dubai based audio video piracy firm that operates on a much bigger scale worldwide than that of Dawood Ibrahimâs set up in Dubai. Christian politicians of Kerala like Umman Chandi and K.M.Mani were funded by this centre. Congress party members boycotted the Kerala assembly proceedings when police raided the christian faith healing centre in Muringoor, Kerala. The christian leaders like K M Mani tried to paint that police misbehaved towards christian patients including women at the centre to divert the public attention from the main issue of dozens of murders in the christian faith healing centre. The christian K.M. Mani was a former law minister and claimed that police violated norms in the Criminal Procedure Code and harassed HIV/AIDS patients who were being cured at the Divine faith healing centre. K. M. Mani, on 3 October 2006 at the Divine Retreat Centre stated that the faith healing centre has become an oasis for the poor, sick people abandoned by medical science and a home of refuge for the mentally challenged people. He said that he always visited the centre as he also felt mentally challenged at times.

After cornering the private education field in Kerala with the political clout, the Kerala christians are now concentrating on medical field to raise funds for the christian conversion work going on in India manned by the Kerala christians. With the advent of AIDS the christian church concentrated on faith healing to make money. The faith healing centers are a method to extract the last drop of blood from AIDS patients, drug addicts and the like. The christian priests and nuns, who form the slave labor force of the church runs educational institutions and medical centers. The christian priest Fr.Augustine Vallooran, a Director of Divine Retreat Centre was arrested by the police.

A Christian fanatic has issued a death threat to Justice Padmanabhan Nair for ordering the state government to probe the unlawful and anti social activities of the Muringoor Christian Divine Center. The Marxist endorsement reinforced the Center to continue illegal activities and motivated the Christian extremist to issue death threat against Justice Padmananbhan Nair. The death threat was sent to Justice Padmanabhan Nair from an Ernakulum Telephone Booth. The death threat was specifically made to Justice Padmanabhan Nair warning him that he will be murdered for ordering investigation against the illegal activities and forceful homicide at the Christian Divine Center. The death threat against Justice Padmanabhan Nair shows the danger to India from the radical Christianity of India and its unholy nexus between the Marxist Party.

The Kerala christians, who call themselves as Syrian christians and claim that they are decedents of Brahmin converts of St. Thomas, are the typical example of the christian frauds. The history of Christianity is crowded with crimes against humanity of the most horrendous kind. As many as 23,000 blatant forgeries and foisting of pious frauds were done by christians. Starting with Jesus Christ, the entire doctrinal and institutional edifice of Christianity rests on a series of staggering swindles and lies. The book âNative life of Travancoreâ written by The Rev. Samuel Mateer F L S and published in 1883 have a chapter called Syrian Christians from page 158. Rev. Samuel Mateer while traveling throughout Kerala had stayed in many places and had talked with many of the Kerala Syrian christians. He found that none of the converts have heard of Jesus Christ and does not know why a cross was being worshiped. Kotarakara Syrian church doorway was sketched in his book and it shows a cock engraved along with the cross and armed figures. The book clearly indicates that the Syrian Christians of Kerala are the untouchable Hindu caste called âParaya communityâ converts. The marriageable ages of boys were 10 years, and that of the girls were 7 years. The married couple can enter the house only after ânellum niramâ and with the lamp in the hand of the girl. The women make âkuravaâ a shrill cry during this time. Fasting for the dead are kept for a year by a relative in the family. Syrian Christians consult sorcerers and offerings are made to the demons (Hindu Gods). When the head of the untouchable Hindu Paraya community is dead, as per the customary caste law of Parayas, they bury the corpus of the deceased head Parayas or moopan in sitting posture instead of the usual practice of keeping the dead body in lying position. Primitive burial practices of Parayas are still being practiced by the Syrian christians in Kerala. The Syrian Christians of Kerala bury the corpse of their christian bishops in the same manner as the Hindu Parayas who bury their head Parayas or Moopan. The historical records and even the burial patterns show that Syrian christians of Kerala are Paraya converts. Syrian Christians of Kerala maintained the ritual of offering obsequies for the souls of the dead ancestors as that of the practice of Parayas. The obsequies for the dead ancestors contained blood, flesh and intoxicating drinks. These are all typical local Kerala customs of Paraya community. Pope Benedict XVI in 2006 said that St Thomas had preached Christianity in "western" India and did not visit Kerala. The Kerala Paraya christian converts created two conflicting stories to show that they are of higher Hindu caste converts to Christianity. One group of Paraya christians, created a story that they were converts of Brahmins, by St. Thomas who had arrived in Kerala in 52AD. This fake St. Thomas story is proved to be a fraud after the present Nazi Pope Joseph Ratzinger, who was a Hitler Youth and head of Opus Dei, told that St. Thomas visited the present Pakistan and never went to Kerala. This crooked Paraya christians of Kerala operating from Tamil Nadu even created martyrdom for St. Thomas in Chennai, in a fake story in which st. Thomas was killed by a Brahmin. They destroyed the Kapileswara temple near the seashore with the help of Europeans and constructed a St. Thomas church using some of the temple stones. These Paraya christians of Kerala created a St. Thomas mount in Chennai from where they are now selling sacred Thomas sand by the kilos, claiming that Thomas walked all over that area. Another group of Paraya christian converts of Kerala claims that they are refugees from Syria in AD 352, and created fake copper agreements in Portuguese language from Kerala Kings to prove their arrival etc. The Paraya christians of Kerala, and the terrorist muslims of Kerala migrated to Tamil Nadu to further their activities. Christians along with the British created and propagated the Aryan invasion theory which convinced the black Tamils that they are an inferior community different from the fair Brahmins. This propaganda has created a Dravidian movement in Tamil Nadu and created Tamil Terrorists like E.V. Ramasami Naicker also known as Periyar or EVR. In Tamil Nadu and Kerala many dirty criminal Christian frauds happened. The International Institute of Tamil Studies, sponsored and funded by the Government of Tamil Nadu, had published in 1985-86 a book titled Viviliyam, Tirukkural, Shaiva Siddhantam Oppu Ayu. The writer of the book was a Christian by name M. Deivanayakam. The University of Madras had conferred a doctorâs degree on the author for writing this dissertation. The thesis propounded by him was that the ancient Tamil saint, Tiruvalluvar, had become a disciple of St. Thomas and converted to Christianity. N. Krishnaswami Reddiar, a retired judgeâ of the high court denounced Deivanayakamâs book as âtrash in the name of research.â The visit of St. Thomas to India was a myth, and wondered how a book like that by Deivanayakam could be published by an institute set up by the Government and honored by the University of Madras with a doctorate. Dr. R. Nagaswami, eminent archaeologist, also censored the institute and the university for sponsoring a spurious thesis, and said that the St. Thomas story âwas a ruse to spread Christianity in India which is now confirmed by the Pope himself. Deivanayakam had collaborated with Dr. R. Arulappa, the Catholic Archbishop of Madras, in writing another but similar book, Perinbu Villakku, published in 1975. The Archbishop had also tried to prove that Tiruvalluvar had come in contact with St. Thomas during the latterâs travels in South India, and converted to Christianity. But he had gone much further, and forged âevidenceâ on palm-leaf scrolls in support of his thesis. He had employed a Hindu scholar of Christianity, Ganesh Iyer, for this purpose, and paid him to the tune of 15 lakh rupees. The fraud had been exposed when someone put the police on the trail of Ganesh Iyer. The case had dragged on in the Madras metropolitan court from 1980 to 1986 when Ganesh Iyer was sentenced to ten monthsâ imprisonment on various counts. But Dr. Arulappa had got him acquitted by means of a civil suit for compromise filed in the Madras High Court at the same time that the criminal case was going on. Ganesh Iyer had spilled the beans soon after.

Christian Slave traders of yesterday are the human rights activists of today. Christianity a trillion dollar business built on fraud and Greatest Cover Up in History. Christians are a fifth column community in India. Kerala Paraya Christians moved in to Tamil Nadu to create fake histories because they found that Tamilians left in Tamil Nadu have low IQ or no IQ at all. Nehruâs illegitimate child was growing up in a christian orphanage in Bangalore, and this enabled them to blackmail Nehru to allow the missionaries to have conversion by gun, in the North East states of India. Antonia Maino coming from the lowest strata of Italy and an illiterate girl, working as a barmaid in UK was presented by Opus Dei and KGB in front of Rajiv Gandhi to continue the hold of christians in India. Christians who worked as the agents of the British were en masse killed in Delhi, during the first war of Independence in 1857. Recently christian members of Indian Parliament elected from all states had attended a meeting of a christian terrorist group of North Eastern states. This christian terrorist group of North East calls for the creation of christian nations out of North East India and the christian MPs promised them help. Recently Manipurâs congress party chief minister Ibobi Singh donated Rs 1.5 Crore to christian separatists. US Senator Barbara Boxer and ex President Jimmy Carter calls for Nagaland to secede from India. You have to understand that the Christian missionaries and militants have been working for years to bring most of the states of the northeast to secede from India to become a separate Christian country, even if it means by force and brutality. For example, few people seem to be aware that in the small state of Tripura alone, over 10,000 people have been killed in the past 20 years by Christian militants through what you could call ethnic cleansing. The killing is done to instill fear in those who are not Christian, or who do not want to separate from India. And these militants are often supported by the Christian groups who provide money and reasoning for what they do. Southern Baptist Church forcing conversions at gun point. The Baptist Church in southern USA and the Presbyterian Church of the UK fund the Baptist Christian terrorists that are active in India's North-East. Ex-Chief Election Commissioner, T.N. Seshan, told this in a discussion in 1993. the terrorist groups like NLFT. The Christian Groups in America that fund armed insurgents in north east India to carry out ethnic cleansing and killing in India should be declared as terrorist organizations by the Indian government. Billy Graham well known Baptist leader openly praised the christian naga terrorists who had killed some 300,000 Hindus in North East. The Nagas, The NLFT, The NDFB are all Baptists are christian terrorists and interestingly they all share terrorist camps with islamists of Al-Quaida. Christianity is the result of a huge conspiracy and is the single most dangerous organization on earth that caused the death of half a billion humans in the name of religion. Islam pales in to insignificance as a terror organization in front of Christianity with only seventy five million human beheadings to its credit.

http://www.kaumudi.com/news/101806/kerala.stm

http://www.haindava keralam.org/ PageModule. aspx?PageID= 2885&SKIN=C
http://www.malayalavedhi.com/wbboard/threa...3&threadid=4689
Pope pops St Thomas bubble in Kerala, November 24, 2006 http://www.cybernoon.com/DisplayArticle.as...y_standard11461
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/nov/22pope.htm
http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=b...40ed937db04195e
Indians demand answers from Sonia Gandhi on her links
http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2005/0...omment.php
Terrorists in North-East India get support from America

http://www.freeindiamedia.com/current_affa...ent_affairs.htm
http://tripurainfo.com/insurgency/sekhar3.shtml
church backing Tripura rebels
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/717775.stm

NOW A CHRISTIAN-HINDU DIVIDE IN TRIPURA VILLAGES

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_129174,0009.htm

Here is a Baptist website
http://www.srt.com/baptist/missions21.html
Exodus from Manipur continues

http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?...sess=1&id=10546

Dutch support revealed for rebels", www.tehelka.com/channels/investigations/2000/oct/9/in100900dutch.htm .
Terror in Tripura etc
www.flonnet.com/fl1712/17120410.htm.
www.himalmag.com/december2001/essay.htm.
www.rediff.com/news/2001/aug/06naga.htm.
www.satp.org.
www.nenanews.com/OT%20Dec.22-%20Jan.6,%2001/oh4.htm.
www.rediff.com/news/2001/aug/08nscn.htm.
http://www.northeastvigil.com/newsarch/1...0i.htm#i01.
http://www.northeastvigil.com/newsarch/0...0i.htm#i24.
NSCN's dinner diplomacy with Christian MPs
http://www.keralanext.com/news/index.asp?id=142486

Sethusamudram Project Facts Vs. Myth

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:25:37 +0000

Can we sort the facts from the myths on this "Sethusamudram Project" and the opposition to it?

Consider the following article:

QUOTEMarch 18, 2007
Stop Setu Project, save South India

Setusamudram Project and impending tsunami devastation

Ramar bridge (Ram Setu) had saved the coastline during tsunami 2004; so stop Setu Project. Breaking the bridge with a 300-meter wide canal will suck the next, impending, tsunami directly into the Indian coastline. Devastation will be incalculable, particularly in southern India. Government of India should stop further work on Setusamudram Project and stop meddling with the natural protective structure of Ram Setu.

By Dr. S. Kalyanaraman

The Ramar bridge (at a high elevation) from the rest of the shoal accumulations acted as a natural barrier preventing the direct devastation of the entire Indian coastline south and southwest of Nagapattinam.

Setusamudram Project has been put on fast track, with little concern for detailed impact analyses on lives of coastal people and the imperative of continuous dredging operations to operate the channel.

The most devastating comment on the project comes from Dr. Tad S. Murthy: "I like this (Setusamudram) project but there is a flaw. The entrance to the channel should be re-oriented towards the eastern side. Otherwise, there is a chance that it may create a deepwater route for another devastating tsunami. This may cause huge destruction in Kerala." Let me explain why the warning should be taken seriously.

During the last tsunami, the Ramar bridge (at a high elevation) from the rest of the shoal accumulations acted as a natural barrier preventing the direct devastation of the entire Indian coastline south and southwest of Nagapattinam.

This shows the spread of the massive displacement of waters displaced by the plate tectonic event at Aceh. The spread was dosing the southern Tamil Nadu coastline, circled the entire Sri Lanka island and moved partially into Kerala and towards the Ramar bridge. This circling around Sri Lanka occurred because the Ramar bridge acted as a natural shoal barrier preventing the inflow of waters.

If a Setusamudram channel is dug through the bridge, it will act as a channel for the waters to flow directly into the entire southern Indian coastline beyond Dhanush-kodi and into the coastline of Kerala right into the Konkan region. The devastation will be incalculable.

This clearly shows how Ramar bridge (Ram Setu) had acted as 'a high wall' and, in fact, saved most of the coastline west and northwest of Dhanushkodi from devastation.

There are clear indications that the environmental clearance was done without taking into account fundamental engineering and cost-benefit factors:
1.Â Â Â Effect of a tsunami-type of event on the project (all scientists are unanimous that a recurrence of tsunamis cannot be ruled out).
2.Â Â Â Locations for dumping the dredged sand
3.Â Â Â Costs of continuous dredging given the continuous sea currents, which tend to create the shoals and again rebuild the Ramar bridge making the project inoperable for most of the time.
4.Â Â Â The types of naval craft which can navigate through the project channel (apparently, the heavy oil tankers cannot go through this channel and will continue to circumnavigate around Sri Lanka and through Straits of Malacca to reach the markets of South- East and East Asia. There has been no market study of the numbers and types of vessels that will navigate through the channel and the freight rates expected to be paid by these vessels for being tugged through the channel.

In the interests of safety of the lives of the coastal people, it is prudent to stop the project work until the fundamental factors are re-studied and re-evaluated. It is also essential to involve NIOT and create a Marine Archaeological Unit to study the archaeology of the Ramar bridge and Kizhakkarai (Tiruchendur) where a s'ankha industry flourishes. It will be a tragedy of incalculable proportion to the cultural traditions of India, if this industry were to be devastated by the project.

It will be prudent to study the impact of the project on the cultural aspirations of the people and industries such as the ones that support livelihood of s'ankha divers. Impact on fisheries and future projects for desalination of seawater to provide drinking water to coastal towns should also be evaluated. The possibility of choosing an alternative route for the channel with little impact on the Ramar bridge should also be re-studied, taking into account the satellite image analyses which show that the secular historical trend of incursions and recessions of seawaters from almost the entire Indian coastline from Dwaraka through Gulf of Khambat, through Gulf of Mannar up to Ganga Sagar (West Bengal) are caused by a number of factors not excluding plate tectonics and global warming cycles.

The received narratives of the submergence of Kumarikandam should be a pointer to the imperative of careful studies before embarking on projects which hurt the cultural sentiments of the people who are inheritors of a glorious sea-faring, maritime, riverine civilization continuum.

(The writer is heading Sarasvati Research Centre and he is a former Sr. Exec., Asian Development Bank. He can be contacted at kalyan97@yahoo.com)
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