03-21-2006, 02:45 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-ben_ami+Mar 21 2006, 12:14 PM-->QUOTE(ben_ami @ Mar 21 2006, 12:14 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->How many of nobel prize winning Jews are from Middle-east?
not many. nobel prize started in 1900, by which time the middle east was the last place where you could find jews!! but there have been quite a few sabra laureates of late.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There still are many Jews in middle-east, even now in Iraq, Iran Morocco etc. but they live like normal people.
Why do you take nobel prize as a metric to measure talent? Nobel prize use western scales to decide if it is to be offered to a person. That is why you don't see many people outside western world receiving it. People like Dalai Lama, Suu Kyi were offerred for political purposes. No nobel for Gandhi because he fought against west, doesn't that sound like a joke? You don't see many Japanese or Russians among the nobel winners.
And Jews were living in western world for 2000 years and they understand western thinking and naturally become nobel winners compared to many other people. When western world was developing most of the jews were there and they also naturally happened to be winners along with them. Unfortunately there weren't many Indians and Chinese in Europe at that time and you don't see their name among contributors.
But today, within a span of less than 50 years, you see a lot of succesful Indians in US. Give them 100 more years, you might see them to be more worthwhile than Jews. Do you want to check? Look at what is happening in diamond trade at Antwerp, Belgium, which once was an exclusive domain of Jews. If you don't see other people in your list of successful people, it is just because they did not have the same opportunity as those in your list.
I don't have any animosity against Jews, rather I respect their abilities and successes and believe that India and Hindus can learn a lot from them to be succesful in this modern world. However, I can't tolerate when people try to create an aura around them.
not many. nobel prize started in 1900, by which time the middle east was the last place where you could find jews!! but there have been quite a few sabra laureates of late.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There still are many Jews in middle-east, even now in Iraq, Iran Morocco etc. but they live like normal people.
Why do you take nobel prize as a metric to measure talent? Nobel prize use western scales to decide if it is to be offered to a person. That is why you don't see many people outside western world receiving it. People like Dalai Lama, Suu Kyi were offerred for political purposes. No nobel for Gandhi because he fought against west, doesn't that sound like a joke? You don't see many Japanese or Russians among the nobel winners.
And Jews were living in western world for 2000 years and they understand western thinking and naturally become nobel winners compared to many other people. When western world was developing most of the jews were there and they also naturally happened to be winners along with them. Unfortunately there weren't many Indians and Chinese in Europe at that time and you don't see their name among contributors.
But today, within a span of less than 50 years, you see a lot of succesful Indians in US. Give them 100 more years, you might see them to be more worthwhile than Jews. Do you want to check? Look at what is happening in diamond trade at Antwerp, Belgium, which once was an exclusive domain of Jews. If you don't see other people in your list of successful people, it is just because they did not have the same opportunity as those in your list.
I don't have any animosity against Jews, rather I respect their abilities and successes and believe that India and Hindus can learn a lot from them to be succesful in this modern world. However, I can't tolerate when people try to create an aura around them.