Analysis Of Races Mentioned In The Rgveda

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@shushmita,


oh well.

lets just agree to disagree.

you can choose to believe that anyone who ever existed, existed as a civilization (script or not) and nothing less. all the best.

i choose to think different and use different yardsticks.

and

@ADMIN,

i never realised i'd be getting the sort of answers i got in her next two posts WRT my germanii-alemanii post. if i did, i'd have refrained from geting into this arguement in the first place.

anyway now that both sushmita and me have laid all or most of our cards on the table (as regards this debate), i'll wash my hands off the discussion.

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Sushmita,

Great posts! <!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Ben Ami,

Great number of posts! <!--emo&leepy--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sleepysmileyanim.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sleepysmileyanim.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->i never realised i'd be getting the sort of answers i got in her next two posts WRT my germanii-alemanii post.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sorry, I'd read what you wrote on germannii-alemanii, but didn't know you'd wanted a response to it. In case you don't mind a late reply:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->the celts are colonisers too.
...though the celts were less barbarian than the germanics they certainly were no civilizations. just had a druidic tradition. and though they werent the ruthless colonials the germanic anglosaxons, dutch and the flemish belgians were, they certainly were not good samaritans. one only has to look at france's colonial crimes and the number of irish people in usa, living off the lands of the red indians.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The colonisers were all Christians and had been Christian for centuries by that time. It doesn't matter that their ancestors were Celtic (or Germanic) at all. Christianity robs people of their identities. Just look at the Indian Christians in our North-East, they are barely recognisable in their behaviour as descendants of their ancestors.

The religion and culture of the Celts had become extinct due to Christianity. So the colonisations you spoke of - those of France and those of the Irish in the US - were by Christians, who had long ago ceased to be Celts in all but ethnicity. As I said, it's ideology that directs and drives behaviour, not ethnicity.* Just like Hindus and Hindu culture can't be blamed for the actions of Muslim and Christian Indians, it's not logical to blame 'the Celts' for the colonial crimes of their ethnic descendants who aren't Celtic culturally or religion-wise.
Similarly, during the centuries of colonisation, the colonisers from North-West Europe were all Christian. The nearly extinct Germanic religion of their ancestors (alive only in pockets of Iceland) had nothing to do with their actions. Christianity, on the other hand, did.

*Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita says that "The faith of a man follows his nature, Arjuna. Man is made of faith: as his faith is so he is."
My personal interpretation: The first bit explains that the the beliefs of an individual are determined by his unique nature. The second implies that a person's behaviour is governed by those beliefs. We must choose to believe what is good and right, so we will be guided to do what is good and right.

Well, take care, Ben Ami.


Satyarthi,
thanks <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If this is indeed the case, what are these people doing to upkeep the "Purity" of their ancestral thought? When are they going to ditch the imposed Semitic thoughts and take pride in their self-claimed Aryan ancestral heritage? Do they have any plans on doing Sandhyavandanam and Agnihotram ? Are they aware of the benevolence Mitra and Varuna? How soon will they be Agni Worshippers? Any discussions on these lines in their so-called forum?
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Sunder,

Good point.
This the same question I asked them. Nobody bothered to reply.
The Christian brainwashing has been severe.



Sushmita,

Good posts.
I agree with you that we should not become racist while attacking Nazis.
This is one mistake I made before, when I used to counter racial slurs with racial slurs of my own.

Most Europeans I met are good folk.

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<!--QuoteBegin-mitradena+Dec 19 2005, 01:19 AM-->QUOTE(mitradena @ Dec 19 2005, 01:19 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Most Europeans I met are good folk.
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yes same here.

but having said that, whilst i am very nice and friendly with the nice whites, i have no time for the nazis.

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Moses Salomon,
If you're reading this, thanks for your post (Post #47 of this thread - written way back in Apr 2005). It was very interesting and enlightening. Take care. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->


<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mitradena: I agree with you that we should not become racist while attacking Nazis. This is one mistake I made before, when I used to counter racial slurs with racial slurs of my own. Most Europeans I met are good folk.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ben Ami: yes same here.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Great. I totally concur: avoiding the nazis, seeking the company of good people from all cultures and countries.

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great posts sushmita ! <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->