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What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-09-2009 Quote:Hart and other Jewish academic racists left American Renaissance shortly thereafter, when Taylor declined to explicitly ban anti-Semites. But Hart was apparently not ready to give up public discussion of the superiority of the white race. Hence, "Preserving Western Civilization," Hart's Jewish-friendly replacement for the American Renaissance conference. [url="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=912"]link[/url] It looks like this guy broke with American Renaissance over antisemitism. He then started to promote 'Western civilization' as a 'secular' version of christendom (antisemitic), which includes the Jewish people. But the ones who have been excluded: Quote:It wasn't just minorities who were slammed at Hart's conference. Muslims came in for some serious drubbing, too. What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - ramana - 12-09-2009 Reason why I alerted dhu was that there are attempts to come up with a new theory which maintains the Western dominance. They wont give up AIT till they have something better, for, if they give it up they have to go back to the bible's prescription. And ths regress and not progress. So expect more such works. What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - HareKrishna - 12-10-2009 [quote name='ramana' date='09 December 2009 - 11:16 PM' timestamp='1260380329' post='102855'] Reason why I alerted dhu was that there are attempts to come up with a new theory which maintains the Western dominance. They wont give up AIT till they have something better, for, if they give it up they have to go back to the bible's prescription. And ths regress and not progress. So expect more such works. [/quote] i guess this come here 1-Temperats(like europeans above 40 parallel and east asians) are -high IQ -technical oriented(see germans and east asians) -less religious(see europeans and chinese;non-belivers appear in this regions) -less superstitious -less violent,more reason over instincts 2-Tropicals (africans,middle easterners,south ans south east asians)are -low IQ-which translate in -difficulty in using complex technology(resulting poverty) -believing more superstitions -more violent,being less IQ they have more instinctual behavior. -more conservative,they stubbornly keep the bad old habits. -artistic oriented(from yantras and persian carpets to hip hop and techno) -religious fanatics,majority of fanatics you find them in tropical region Being religious fanatics tropicals are the main cause for future world destruction or going back to the stone age. What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - acharya - 12-10-2009 [quote name='HareKrishna' date='10 December 2009 - 07:01 PM' timestamp='1260451411' post='102864'] 2-Tropicals (africans,middle easterners,south ans south east asians)are -low IQ-which translate in -difficulty in using complex technology(resulting poverty) -believing more superstitions -more violent,being less IQ they have more instinctual behavior. -more conservative,they stubbornly keep the bad old habits. -artistic oriented(from yantras and persian carpets to hip hop and techno) -religious fanatics,majority of fanatics you find them in tropical region Being religious fanatics tropicals are the main cause for future world destruction or going back to the stone age. [/quote] Most of the civilization has come from the Tropical regions and some of the greatest empires and human development has taken place in this region. So the above list is only a superstitions. Brilliant thoughts and abstract complex thoughts have come Indian civilization. What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - Guest - 12-10-2009 [quote name='HareKrishna' date='10 December 2009 - 07:01 PM' timestamp='1260451411' post='102864'] i guess this come here 2-Tropicals (africans,middle easterners,south ans south east asians)are -low IQ-which translate in -difficulty in using complex technology(resulting poverty) -believing more superstitions -more violent,being less IQ they have more instinctual behavior. -more conservative,they stubbornly keep the bad old habits. -artistic oriented(from yantras and persian carpets to hip hop and techno) -religious fanatics,majority of fanatics you find them in tropical region Being religious fanatics tropicals are the main cause for future world destruction or going back to the stone age. [/quote] Is this for real? Sounds like unadulterated rubbish. Who came up with this list? It has more holes than material What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - shamu - 12-11-2009 [quote name='HareKrishna' date='10 December 2009 - 07:01 PM' timestamp='1260451411' post='102864'] i guess this come here 1-Temperats(like europeans above 40 parallel and east asians) are -high IQ [/quote] Where was their IQ till 1500 AD? Quote:-technical oriented(see germans and east asians) Germans were barbarians for most part of the history Quote:-less religious(see europeans and chinese;non-belivers appear in this regions) Ever heard of dark age of Europe? Quote:-less superstitious Heard of bible belt in US? Quote:-less violent,more reason over instincts Please tell this to Africans and Native Americans. What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-12-2009 http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/sci-tech/scientists-rejig-human-evolution-indians-ancestors-of-east-asians-lead_100287805.html http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/12/12/200912120027.asp http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/varanasi/Indian-scientist-set-to-change-world-history/articleshow/5301655.cms What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-12-2009 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-from-India-Study/articleshow/5328596.cms What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-13-2009 Bhandaar phoota. http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20091211/808/tnl-first-settlers-in-china-and-the-orie.html What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-13-2009 http://www.dnaindia.com%2Fscitech%2Freport_the-chinese-evolved-from-indians-study_1322647 http://www.expressindia.com%2Flatest-news%2FIndia-is-the-source-of-genetic-diversity---Study%2F553371%2F http://www.hindustantimes.com%2FNews-Feed%2Fnewdelhi%2FFirst-settlers-in-China-and-the-Orient-were-Indian-migrants-Study%2FArticle1-485546.aspx What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - HareKrishna - 12-13-2009 [quote name='dhu' date='13 December 2009 - 05:43 AM' timestamp='1260662712' post='102928'] Bhandaar phoota. http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20091211/808/tnl-first-settlers-in-china-and-the-orie.html [/quote] It cant be. Mongol race have clear adaptation to the coldness so must evolved in in cold enviroment like Siberia and Mongolia. South east asia was never cold and even China wasnt cold enough during that time. So mongol race must migrate from the north to the south . So the north must have more genetic diversity then the south. Yet genetic studies show that he south have more diversity then the north and almost all haplotypes have origin in the south. This puzzle we must solve. Classical theory show that mongols go from Africa to Central asia ,from there to Mongolia (were they developed adaptation to coldness)and then migrate to south east Asia. What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - Husky - 12-13-2009 <Not important.> What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - Husky - 12-13-2009 Sorry, doubleposted again. Apparently I can't edit. Again: where's the delete button? What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-13-2009 Husky, that was exactly what I was wondering... Thanks What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-13-2009 [quote name='HareKrishna' date='13 December 2009 - 07:13 AM' timestamp='1260668114' post='102930'] Yet genetic studies show that he south have more diversity then the north and almost all haplotypes have origin in the south. This puzzle we must solve. Classical theory show that mongols go from Africa to Central asia ,from there to Mongolia (were they developed adaptation to coldness)and then migrate to south east Asia. [/quote] It was probably at headwaters of Brahmaputra. Lhasa-Guwahati stretch.
What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - HareKrishna - 12-14-2009 replacing Siberian theory whit a Himalayan one?that is similar whit Oppenheimer theory What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - acharya - 12-14-2009 Quote:Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-15-2009 [quote name='HareKrishna' date='14 December 2009 - 12:09 PM' timestamp='1260772275' post='102954'] replacing Siberian theory whit a Himalayan one?that is similar whit Oppenheimer theory [/quote] That is what I was thinking also, but Oppenheimer does not indicate this in his book (from what I could gather). Interestingly, it was an earlier version of his wikipedia page which proposed E himalayan for Mongoloid and W Himalayan for Indic. MNOPS has SEA center of gravity. P would have to be Bengal. R pan-Indian. Q Central/S Asian with rapid dispersal into Siberia. R disperses into Russia. MNOPS really shut the door on Northern Eurasian dispersal either in East or in West. These studies only confirm... It's good they stayed away form ANI ASI Type gimmicks... What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 12-30-2009 I had another encounter with Nichols' 'Linguistic Diversity'. The author was able to deduce a 100K migration into ~Tropical Asia. 50K-30K secondary migration into ~Oceania, Europe and Inner Asia. And a post glacial migration. It is in the last phase that IE, Iranian, Turkic, and Mongolian all expand out from the East, with Uralic as an everpresent witness. What DNA Says About Aryan Invasion Theory -2 - dhu - 01-03-2010 [url="http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/1410-unmasking-ait/page__view__findpost__p__103273"]Re: post1[/url] [url="http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/1410-unmasking-ait/page__view__findpost__p__103264"]Post 2[/url] These Spencerwalas always manage to implicate diversity as a sign of exclusivity... The article is discussing the origins of C which is a minor clade in India and a brother of the pan-eurasian F. If C originates in India, then this strengthens the origin of F in India as well. Along with the facts that: Europe was a Neantherthal lebensraum, proven differential settlement of Europe versus Northern India and Tropical Asia, the exclusive presence of minor F clades in India, MNOPS' Eastern center of gravity, an Indian counterpart L to transcontinental T an Indian counterpart H to Iranian/ME G exclusive presence of minor K clades in India .... .. The single southern coastal migration is a given at this stage. An important quote from the herrenvolk forum (in case it disappears): Quote:I presume that your "K", is what was recently described as MNOPS macro-haplogroup and that this is the same as previously detected as NOP. So basically it's K(xL,T), right? |