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BJP Future - 7 - ramana - 09-17-2011

Amatya, Please post synopsis for benefit of readers.



Thanks, ramana

BJP Future - 7 - simplyrohit21 - 09-18-2011

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Amatya, Please post synopsis for benefit of readers.



Thanks, ramana

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Sure Ramana-ji.



In brief, in this hindi article by the Patrika group editor, the author asserts that LKA must give up his rath-yatra for the greater good of BJP and nation or else this will complicate the already messed up scenario. LKA is apparently unhappy with a younger leader taking lead (who is he is anyone's guess) and this election would be his last chance to project himself as the PM candidate.



So far the confirmations by BJP and RSS on their support for LKA's new yatra have been half hearted and false. In fact he has decided to go on his yatra without taking his own party in confidence.



The article also criticizes the infighting in BJP and the lack of discipline within both Sangh and BJP.

BJP Future - 7 - dhu - 09-19-2011

[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Narendra-Modi-refuses-to-put-on-skull-cap-offered-by-Muslim-cleric/articleshow/10040530.cms"]Narendra Modi refuses to put on 'skull cap' offered by Muslim cleric[/url]



Mullahs know that this is the fastest way to bring down Modi. Vajpayee donned a green cap and was refused by Hindus.

BJP Future - 7 - simplyrohit21 - 09-19-2011

[quote name='dhu' date='19 September 2011 - 04:41 PM' timestamp='1316430229' post='112920']

[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Narendra-Modi-refuses-to-put-on-skull-cap-offered-by-Muslim-cleric/articleshow/10040530.cms"]Narendra Modi refuses to put on 'skull cap' offered by Muslim cleric[/url]



Mullahs know that this is the fastest way to bring down Modi. Vajpayee donned a green cap and was refused by Hindus.

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Dhu-ji, even then isn't it a bit odd? Tomorrow they might offer Burqa/niqab to say Sushma Swaraj or any other lady and if she refuses, they would say 'its an insult to Islam' and our 'secular' media will pick it up. I wonder whether one should laugh or cry on such tactics!



By the by, has anyone come across the 2011 census data of religious demographics in India? So far only data available is that of 2001 census. I am afraid this is being kept from public on purpose.

BJP Future - 7 - ramana - 09-20-2011

Wasnt the cleric insulting Islam by offering the skull cap to a non Muslim? He should get the fatwa first!

BJP Future - 7 - Guest - 09-20-2011

[size="4"][url="http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=1969"]Roza-nama: Only Paigambar, no Pitambar[/url][/size]

Sandhya Jain



20 Sep 2011





As a political manoeuvre to outclass BJP veteran L.K. Advani, who on 8 September unilaterally announced a nation-wide yatra against corruption, which many viewed as a last ditch claim to premiership in the event of mid-term polls, the Gujarat chief minister’s 13 September declaration of a three-day fast can be admired as a swift remedy for a desperate malady. Despite five successive flop yatras and two electoral routs – caused mainly by an insistence on projecting himself as prime ministerial choice – Mr. Advani has refused to fade away gracefully and clings tenaciously to his declining power and prestige.



Still, given his inability to get the Gujarat Governor to withdraw her contentious appointment of a Congress favourite as State Lokayukta, bypassing the State Government; and given the BJP’s abysmal failure in getting the UPA to compel the Governor to retreat on a blatantly unconstitutional move; it is unclear what is behind the sense of triumphalism with which Narendra Modi has undertaken his three-day fast.



On a surface view, the BJP, and particularly the Gujarat chief minister, felt vindicated when the Supreme Court sent the Gulbarg Society massacre trial back to the lower court and refused to further monitor the case, having supervised the main investigations.



Doubtless the Supreme Court was rectifying a public perception that it had, under successive Chief Justices, acted incorrectly in the Gujarat riots. While the injustice meted out to young Zahira Sheikh is neither admitted nor rectified, disclosures by women victims that they were not raped and did not know that activist Teesta Setalvad had made them sign affidavits alleging rape, have rattled the judiciary. Allegations by Setalvad’s close associate, Rais Khan, that she tampered with affidavits; and the unexplained usage of huge funds collected abroad in the name of the riot victims, have discredited the activist and blemished the Supreme Court for transferring the riot cases out of Gujarat at her behest – on the basis of unsigned documents! Thus, the judicial process has only been restored to its original track in this case.



Burqa Amin party



The manner in which the ‘Sadbhavana Mission’ jamboree has been conducted at the Ahmedabad venue raises many pertinent questions.



First and foremost is the in-your-face bonhomie with Muslim notables of Gujarat, amply captured in both print and electronic media – Modi shaking hands with or embracing men with skull caps, long beards and clean-shaven upper lips, in other words, those representing the epitome of Islamic etiquette.



Also enjoying high visibility were women in black habits. [No disrespect is aimed at the Muslim community; the point being made is that throughout the NDA regime, respectable Hindus were given short shrift, a fact which contributed to the BJP’s inability to return to power at the Centre since].



Missing throughout the tone and tenor of the proceedings in a region intimately associated with Sri Krishna, Prince of Dwarka, was the element of Pitambar (yellow / saffron; also an epithet of Vishnu / Krishna). Some sadhus did bless Narendra Modi, but there was nothing in the ambience of the three-day fast to suggest that he perceived himself as the leader of a Hindu-majority nation, a man who understood that Secularists from pre-independence days to the present had given the Hindu people such a raw deal that their very religion and culture is in danger, unless pro-active measures are taken to contain the rot. Hindu physical insecurity in the face of a revived jihadi menace was studiously ignored.



What Narendra Modi has done is truly atrocious. In his ill-conceived race to position himself as the BJP’s foremost prime ministerial candidate, he has rushed blindly to woo the Muslim votebank without calculating:



[1] Whether at all Muslims will vote for the BJP in sufficient numbers to catapult the party to power on a nation-wide basis;



[2] What price Muslims will extract in lieu of such support; and



[3] Whether the Hindu community will support a party that goes all out to woo Muslims as Muslims and negates Hindus as Hindus.



That Narendra Modi did this deliberately can be gauged from the fact that his State Information Department placed advertisements in an Urdu daily in distant Hyderabad, stating his fast was a ‘roza’. This should amply clarify that he is wooing an all-India Muslim constituency to satiate an all-India ambition.



In the process, he has no qualms about converting a party once claiming allegiance to Sri Rama (since dismissed as an ‘encashed cheque’ by the current Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha) into a Burqa Amin party. That negative feedback received by the third day led him to refuse to wear the Islamic skull cap – something Mr. Nitish Kumar has been happy to don – cannot undo the fact his fast jamboree had a non-Hindu blueprint. The imam who offered the cap may well have been a plant, because a true Muslim would not offer the skull cap to a known unbeliever.



In the Hindu ethos, the State – the ruler, whether hereditary or elected – honours and upholds the dharma and traditions of the people. The ruler does not impose his own beliefs upon the people.



In this perspective, a few points may be noted:



- Until the advent of Islam, Hindus had no experience of rulers whose belief systems were not native to the soil



- Alexander, the first historical invader, did not stay long enough to impact Hindu consciousness, much less the religion and history of India



- All invaders until the advent of Islam adopted the religion and culture of the region they conquered and ruled



- Muslim rule was viewed as alien by Hindus in every region of India precisely because the rulers maintained allegiance to an alien religion that was antagonistic towards the native religion and was fiercely iconoclastic [barring periods in which the rulers could not afford overt hostility and conflict with the population]



- When Jawaharlal Nehru said India would be a Secular State, Hindus thought this only meant non-discrimination against Muslims in the wake of Partition.



Secularism is Hindu negation



Indian Secularism, however, did not keep the State above or out of religion. It did not merely protect the religious freedom and religious establishment of the believers of creeds from outside India. It worked actively to discriminate against Hindus in myriad ways; to erase the Hindu ethos, tradition, civilisation, from the public domain.



It made an open mockery of Hindu beliefs and institutions possible, and made articulation of legitimate Hindu concerns inadmissible in the public domain. For instance, Hindus are not allowed to demand a law that will ensure that the children of inter-religious marriages are raised as Hindus and not as Christians or Muslims; nor is the community compensated for honour when girls and children are dumped after many years of marriage.



The Supreme Court’s determination to willy-nilly open the controversial Vault B of the Sri Padmanabha Swamy temple in Tiruvananthapuram is another example of this kind of secularism. On the flip side, the Supreme Court cannot dare strike down Rajiv Gandhi’s scandalous legislation that deprived Muslim divorcees of protection for themselves and their children, on the ground that it violates a very basic feature of the constitution – non-discrimination on grounds of sex, religion, caste, etc. Rajiv Gandhi’s law also violates the constitutional injunction to legislate on a uniform civil code.



As Delhi observes high alert on the anniversary of the Batla house encounter, in which brave Inspector M.C. Sharma lost his life only to be vilified by the scurrilous Digvijay Singh and the Azamgarh school of thought, a shame-faced Union Home Minister has stopped bleating about Hindu terror and admitted that a domestic industry is spawning more jihadi volunteers than his forces can even identify.



Ironically, Mr. Modi has chosen this precise moment – when the recent Mumbai, Delhi, and Agra blasts have brought jihad centre-stage once again – to make non-Hindutva and anti-Hindutva the cornerstones of his grand vision for India. India, in this world view, will be a nation of Hindu people ruled by non-Hindu people for non-Hindu ends. Narendra bhai, in other words, has become Bhai jaan.



By thus making himself the pivot of an undeclared agenda – which everyone knows is to become the prime minister as and when there is a vacancy – Mr. Modi has made his candidature a kind of national referendum. Instead of setting an agenda for the nation, he has made himself the agenda of the nation.



This kind of vacuity perfectly matches that of his putative rival, Mr. Rahul Gandhi. The Amethi MP, too, has nothing to offer the people at large. His election manifesto would read somewhat like this – ‘Make me the PM. I don’t really want to be PM, but mummy wants me to be PM. You know, my daddy was PM…’



Muslims given veto power



Whatever his calculation in fast-tracking his claim to leadership, what Narendra Modi has actually achieved is a minus score. By emphasizing the presence of visibly Muslim faces as the success of his personal acceptability among Muslims, he has:



- Given the Muslim community a moral veto over who has the ‘right’ to be prime minister of a predominantly Hindu nation.



- Returned the national and international spotlight to the Gujarat riots and indirectly given the Centre a legitimate excuse to justify the Communal Violence Bill and its contentious allegation that Hindus alone cause communal riots.



- Effaced the Godhra victims from the national consciousness, and allowed Muslims to feel guilt-free about the cold-blooded murder of innocent passengers on a train – which outrage sparked off the Gujarat riots. It must be emphasized repeatedly that the Gujarat riots were not the consequence of petty bickering among members of two communities; they were a spontaneous outburst against a very grave criminal offence that was carefully planned as part of the on-going jihad in the country, a fact that has been upheld by the trial court verdict against Haji Bilal and others.



This is therefore the right time to ask Narendra bhai jaan:



- What is the number of illegal Bangladeshis in Gujarat?



- What is the number of illegal mosques in Gujarat? How many are on public land and how many have been demolished in deference to a Supreme Court verdict?



- What is number of Hindus allowed to be converted by evangelists under his watch? After all, there has to be some reason for the silence of persons like Cedric Prakash on the issue of freedom of religion.



- What, if any, is the number of converts who returned to the Hindu fold under his watch? After all, this should be the ideal state in terms of ‘ghar wapasi’, and if not, the entire Sangh Parivar, particularly the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and Dr. Pravin Togadia must publicly explain why not.



One can say with some certainty that the answers to these questions will be eye-opener, provided of course, that we do get the answers.



America, the Kiss of Death



The real reason for Narendra Modi’s foolish fast (not vrat, mind you) can be found in the Christian ethos and concepts that permeate his letter to the citizens of his state. And he feels vindicated that the US Congress has issued some report praising his achievements.



He may never understand that this has exposed his weakness for US endorsement, and that this can cause him – like the recently deposed Muammar Gaddafi of Libya – to make grave mistakes in order to appease the Americans.



Gaddafi appeased America to the point that he was easy to destroy. Narendra Modi has inexplicably regarded the Gujarati citizens of America as his real constituency; they have provided the blueprint of his administration and economic model; his enigmatic couture changes and image makeovers; his careful avoidance of all Hindutva-related issues, and now, his open appeasement of Muslims.



When the time comes, Hindus will doubtless give him a reality bite.



Also see:



[url="http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=590"]Narendra Modi: Hindu-minus King of Hearts – 21 May 2009[/url]

BJP Future - 7 - Guest - 09-21-2011

[url="http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=1970"][size="4"]Modi Mantra: Inclusive Development as Panacea for all ills[/size][/url]



Radha Rajan

21 Sep 2011





Narendra Modi’s development formula has replaced grandmother’s fresh ginger juice and honey as sarvaroga nivarani. Ginger juice and honey took care of everything from tummy ache and running nose to loss of appetite and too much green mango; but Inclusive Development, Narendra Modi told us when he began his three day fast on 17th September, could take care of not only childhood ailments but also ensure that Hindus were kept in a state of pacifism even in the face of Jihad and predatory Christian evangelism.



Inclusive Development was guaranteed to neutralise Hindu anger and render all Hindus impotent, especially Gujarati Hindus with a cultivated taste for sabka saath sabka vikaas seasoned with Gujarati Asmita. And as if to prove the efficacy of his patented menu, Modi pointed to how even after jihadis attacked the Akshardham Temple Hindus felt no anger and Gujarat remained an idyll of peace, harmony and universal brotherhood (shanti, sadbhavna and bhaichaara).



Several ingredients went into Modi’s melting-pot three days’ fast –



- Celebration over the SC verdict to return the Gulbarga Society case back to the Trial Court and to stop all future SC monitoring of Gujarat riots cases



- Using the very media which was baying for his blood to send the signal that Modi had steadfastly refused in the last ten years to turn over and play dead; the fast was intended to create the context he needed to hoist media vultures by their own petard



- An occasion for the BJP to stand proudly with Narendra Modi without fear of log kya kahenge



- An opportunity to test the loyalty of old NDA allies and to identify possible new allies for 2014



- An occasion for the BJP central leadership and for Modi himself to test the waters before Modi was moved to Delhi for a possible national role in the near future



- A platform to showcase Muslim endorsement of Narendra Modi



- A well-publicised event to showcase Gujarat’s undoubted prosperity and all-round development



- Above all, this was the long-awaited opportunity for Narendra Modi’s real constituency, Gujarati PIOs and NRIs in America, to point to Muslim presence at Modi’s upvaas and redeem him in the eyes of the US State Department; and get the State Department to give Modi an American visa while they were at it



The last casts a shadow over Modi’s reputation for being a shrewd politician. The fast for communal harmony was badly timed for two reasons – it came in the immediate wake of the Supreme Court’s decision to return the Gujarat riot cases back to the home state; and it came in the immediate wake of some American document titled India: Domestic Issues, Strategic Dynamics and US relations prepared by America’s Congressional Research Service on India, dated 1st September, 2011.



This document allegedly makes mention of Narendra Modi having successfully transformed Gujarat into the most developed state in the country and doing it without a trace of corruption and cutting all bureaucratic red-tape in the process.



Narendra Modi erred and erred disastrously for his image with the timing of the fast. It betrayed his propensity to be swayed by overseas Gujarati concerns and sentiments and worse, his weakness for American endorsement.



Modi also failed to see that the Supreme Court decision was less about his guilt or innocence but more about correcting the impression that the Supreme Court, by allowing the riot cases to be transferred out of Gujarat, had in fact belittled its own institution because that was tantamount to expressing lack of faith in the judges of the Gujarat High Court.



This was also the Supreme Court’s way of putting Teesta Setalvad in her place; the judiciary covered itself with ignominy when it allowed the lady to think she could get every court in the land to dance to her tunes by playing the communal card. The Bombay High Court had in fact allowed Setalvad to choose the Public Prosecutor who would try the riot cases.



Now that the lady had been exposed by her one-time colleague Rais Khan for using foreign funds to set the stage in a manner intended to find Modi guilty of all sins, which included falsifying affidavits and coercing witnesses, the Supreme Court had to begin to redeem itself in its own eyes. The timing of Modi’s fast was therefore all wrong.



The fast itself was a smart, strategic political move that was long overdue; it knocked Sonia Gandhi, her remote-controlled Congress Party, the obnoxious Teesta Setalvad and Mallika Sarabhai, the grandiose National Advisory Council, Anna Hazare and Co., and the anti-Modi media in the solar plexus and it may be truly said, every proud Hindu felt immensely delighted that Modi’s fast left this well-connected anti-Hindu mob speechless and rendered them hors d’combat; at least for three full days.



Narendra Modi’s three day upvaas transformed itself into a powerful political statement against the Congress brand of vendetta politics and Modi detractors. Hindus who still see the BJP as a Hindu party and who see in Modi the Hindu face of Indian polity rejoiced when Modi undertook his three-day fast.



Had Narendra Modi confined himself to the first statement he made when the Supreme Court returned the case to the trial court in Gujarat, “God is great”, and had he declared that he was undertaking a three day upvaas as a sacred act of expressing his gratitude to God, it would still have been a powerful political statement; it would still have been a sucker punch.



But Modi chose to make it an occasion to hard-sell the prescription that Inclusive Development as he had crafted it was the surest way to ensure “unity, harmony and brotherhood among all.” This is not and this cannot be the view of a politician who understands geopolitics, politics of religion, and as one who realizes the dangers of the end objective of the Abrahamic cults. And because Narendra Modi cannot be accused of ignorance, Hindu nationalists are compelled to view his three day fast with concern, if indeed it was a fast only for Sadbhavana or communal harmony.



If on the one hand Narendra Modi is offering Inclusive Development as panacea for communal harmony, mindless Hindus on the other hand are hard-selling Modi as panacea for all India’s ills.



Not once, but several times in the last two days, in his letter to the nation and in the course of several television interviews, Modi reiterated the infallibility of Inclusive Development for “peace, harmony and brotherhood”. And as if to prove his point, the media showed us all footage of at least one Muslim gentleman greeting Modi with a shawl and several others sitting prominently in the front rows of the venue of the fast.



On September 17, 2011 (on his birthday as his bhaktas told us), Narendra Modi, after ten long years presented himself at last to the nation; and his apparition had the same impact on Modi bhaktas as Sonia Gandhi’s fleeting appearances have on Congress loyalists when the lady condescends to come out to wave grandly to lesser mortals gathered at10 Janpath on her birthday to seek her darshan.



The most striking impression was the total absence of Hinduness in the ambience. True, there were some Hindu sanyasis on the dais, but even the tilak that one of them applied to Modi’s forehead soon after he began his fast on the 17th had disappeared without a trace within minutes. Modi should have rightly called this intentionally de-Hinduised act, a secular fast; upvaas was a gross misnomer.



Considering the fact if not in 2014 then later, Narendra Modi will almost certainly be projected by the BJP as its Prime Ministerial candidate, a few critical questions emerging from his fast deserve scrutiny and answers –



- Does Narendra Modi have a sense of this nation being Hindu bhumi?



- Does Narendra Modi desire to establish a Hindu rajya to protect the Hindu rashtra?



- Will Modi accept responsibility to describe/define this nation for the people who believe he is the panacea for all ills bedevilling the country; and then proceed to describe/define himself and his role in the nation’s polity?



- Does Narendra Modi think that he (and all Hindu political leaders) must consciously de-Hinduise their appearance and the ambience in which they work to be acceptable to the Abrahamic cults and to achieve what he calls sadbhavna?



- What in Modi’s considered view are the threats to Hindu bhumi?



- How does he propose to deal with these threats both as Chief Minister of Gujarat and as possible future Prime Minister of the country?



- If Modi is really as intelligent as this writer knows him to be and a shrewd politician, does he really believe that whatever he means by Inclusive Development can deter and deal with threats to the Hindu nation?



- Does Modi think Inclusive Development can deter Christian missionary activities spreading like cancer in the four southern states, or international jihad?



- What really is communal harmony and will Narendra Modi describe that which even Gandhi did not dare to describe when he fasted for it and pushed the Hindu bhumi farther and farther towards vivisection?



- What does Modi mean by Inclusive Development?



- Will Modi, as Prime Minister, include the hundreds of thousands of illegal Bangladeshi Muslims (possible jihadis) in his magic Inclusive Development formula?



- Is good governance the only and ultimate objective of the BJP; the only objective of Narendra Modi as he sets out to worship and serve Ma Bharati as he put it?



These questions trouble the mind because Modi made communal harmony through Inclusive Development the theme of his fast; and he did little to disabuse popular perception that communal harmony or his sadbhavna mission was just his name for the all-out effort he was making to reach out to the Muslim community. Modi baiters, including the vultures in the media saw this as a great success of their Modi-sorry-bol relentless campaign; but grieving Hindus and angry Hindu nationalists realized that Narendra Modi had chosen to ignore the families of Hindu victims of the Sabarmati jihadi carnage.



The gruesome death of 58 Hindu pilgrims – 20 children, 15 women and 23 men who were burnt alive by jihadis at the Godhra station did not count and found no place or mention in all the natter that accompanied Modi’s three-day fast. It was Gandhi all over again.



Gandhi, let the nation know, never fasted for communal harmony when Hindus were butchered by the Moplah jihadis on August 20, 1921; Gandhi did not fast for communal harmony when jihadis let loose their reign of terror in Ahmedabad on the day of ashad sud or the rath yatra day on July1st, 1946. Instead Gandhi faulted Morarji Desai the then Minister for Home and Revenue in the Government of Bombay for calling in the military to quell the riots. In language that sounds like Teesta Setalvad, Gandhi wrote to Moraji Desai –



- Why call the military for such tasks? The people ought to have been forewarned that they would not get the help of the military. The state too may not rule with the help of the military. This could not be. Now realize your mistake and start afresh. Withdraw the military if you can. If you find it risky to withdraw the military immediately let them do policing. They may not carry rifles, and if they carry bayonets these should be used sparingly. Don’t mind if a few have to die. (Gandhi meant if a few military persons had to die). They have been trained to act like monkeys. Under your administration they should cease to be monkeys and become human beings. (Letter to Morarji Desai, Poona July 1, 1946 CWMG, Vol.91, pp222-23)



Gandhi upbraided Morarji Desai and the Bombay government for calling in the military to deal with the rioters and ordered Desai to withdraw the military because Muslims were the perpetrators of the riots while Gandhian-Nehruvian polity is upbraiding Narendra Modi for calling in the military too late (or so they maintain) during the Gujarat riots because Muslims are the victims.



Gandhi did not fast to protest the Calcutta carnage when more than 4000 Hindus were massacred in one day alone starting August 16, 1946 following Jinnah’s call for Direct Action followed by the horrific genocide of Hindus by Islamic jihadis in Noakhali, Bengal. Gandhi did not rush to Bengal the very next day after the Calcutta carnage; he did not even rush to Bengal during the Noakhali genocide of Hindus. Gandhi went to Bengal allegedly to establish communal harmony a good two and a half months after August 16 1946. Gandhi went to Bengal only in the beginning of November when Jihad had burned itself out and Hindus had already been killed or converted to Islam.



The least said about Gandhi and his fasts for communal harmony the better.



Gandhi did not describe communal harmony or sadbhavna and neither did Ramachandra Guha, Gandhian scholar, when, in the context of Anna Hazare’s fast-unto-death, some of Gandhi’s fasts were explained away by Guha as fasts for communal harmony. The failure to describe communal harmony is a dead give-away about what Gandhi, Nehru, Gandhian-Nehruvian secularists, Narendra Modi and other anti-Hindu & idiot Hindu intellectuals mean when they speak about communal harmony.



Gandhi however explained what Hindus had to do (and he ensured they did it by fasting and threatening to fast every time he sensed rising Hindu anger after every instance of jihad) to bring about communal harmony.



- Hindu-Muslim unity can come only by selfless service of Muslims untainted by political motives. They (Muslims) are just like us and we must be friends with them. (Speech to Congress workers, Rampurhat, December 20, 1945, CWMG, Vol.89, pp 71-72)



Q. What would Congressmen do to draw Muslims to the Congress?



A. Gandhiji said in the presence of the prevailing distrust there should be no attempt to enlist the Muslims or any other group or individuals. What however every Hindu could do was to mutely serve his Muslim or for that matter every non-Hindu neighbour (including the evangelising Christian padri) as his blood brother. Such selfless service was bound to tell in the end. That was the way of non-violence, otherwise called love. (Discussion with political workers, Sodepur, December 23, 1945, CWMG Vol.89, pp 89-91)



Nitin Gadkari who aspires for 20% of Muslim votes and Narendra Modi who is fasting for communal harmony must be locked up in a room and left there until they finish reading every volume of the Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi from a Hindu perspective.



The Sachar Committee recommendations, Modi’s Inclusive Development and Jayalalithaa withdrawing the anti-conversion law are all shades of the Gandhian exhortation to Hindus to mutely serve all non-Hindus.



And how does all this pandering, this appeasement, this solicitous attention to minority welfare impress the Muslims and Christians? Tamil Nadu, even without Modi’s Inclusive Development magic potion has impressive social indices with regard to literacy, population control and standard of living. Under Tamil Nadu’s peculiar reservation policy, Christian tribals corner the bulk of reservation benefits under Scheduled Tribes Act while 95% of Muslims benefit from Tamil Nadu’s reservation quota for Backward Classes.



http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1079&Itemid=71



This has not stopped but has only accelerated the spread of the cancer called Christian evangelism and religious conversion and the increase in numbers of local jihadi sleeper cells. If Gandhi’s fasts for communal harmony could not prevent separatism and secessionism in Muslim J&K, separatism and secessionism in the Christian North-east, if Gandhi’s insistence on communal harmony was seen by the Abrahamic cults as a call to Hindus to suffer mutely the ascendance of the minorities, does Modi really believe that his fast for sadbhavna and his Inclusive Development will get Muslims to give up jihad and Christians to give up religious conversion?



Ghulam Mohammed Vastanvi, a Wahabi, Sunni Muslim cleric, was summarily dismissed from his post as Vice Chancellor of Darul Uloom Deoband, the leading Islamic seminary in the country, for having praised Modi’s good governance and Gujarat’s development. The same Vastanvi has now termed Modi’s fast a political gimmick for the oncoming state legislative assembly elections in 2012.



If it turns out that the Muslims who were seen at Modi’s fast were Bohras or Ahmadiyas, or even Shias, then the whole sadbhavna euphoria would turn out to be as substantive as a soap bubble.



There is no such thing as communal harmony. Stability in our societies can be maintained only when Muslims are compelled to give up jihad, when Christians are forced to stop preying upon vulnerable Hindus and tribal communities either by state power which is committed to protecting the Hindu nation, or by Hindus who will be forced to protect their religion and their way of life in a manner they deem fit.



Narendra Modi and the BJP should now explain to Hindu nationalists what is meant by communal harmony and Inclusive Development.



The author is Editor, www.vigilonline.com

BJP Future - 7 - dhu - 09-22-2011

This is a most precipitous decline for Kangress in popularity, the 10% support registered for Rahul may simply be the islamojeebus support



[url="http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/facebook-tells-rahul-bitter-truth-to-his-face"]Facebook tells Rahul bitter truth to his face[/url]

Quote:Till the time of going to print, 46,285 people (cumulative figure) were saying "yes" to Rahul Gandhi as Prime Minister, while those saying "no" number a mammoth 365,940 (cumulative figure). 13,802 voters cannot make up their mind about the Gandhi scion.



This means that [color="#FF0000"]8.5.89% voted against Rahul Gandhi,[/color] while only [color="#0000FF"]10.23% were in favour.[/color] An inconsequential 3.23% could not make up their mind.


BJP Future - 7 - ramana - 09-23-2011

I guess self claimed defenders will pillory NM just as they did to ABV in his heydays!



Meanwhile NVS writes:



http://www.newsinsight.net/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=2197



Quote:UP or down

A Congress self-assessment of doing poorly in Uttar Pradesh advantages the BJP/ NDA in 2014, says N.V.Subramanian.



21 September 2011: The Congress party's internal assessment is that it will not greatly increase its seats' tally in the 2012 UP assembly elections which Mayawati may advance to February confident of winning it. The Congress thinks it could go up by five seats to twenty-seven or five down. It is not winning UP and believes it will worsen its chances in the 2014 general elections.



Who benefits? Logically, the BJP, which fits with conventional thinking. After the exposure of the UPA's mega scams, the BJP had taken a lead. Anna Hazare's anti-corruption campaign, although not meant to, has further consolidated the BJP's winning position.



The big trouble that the Congress sees in UP is that scandals like 2G have produced outrage in the rural hinterland. The complicated nature of the scams has, however, made no difference to their easy understanding, mediated by the campaign of Anna Hazare. Congress insiders report of despair about UP.



It tells that Sonia Gandhi has lost her touch and Rahul Gandhi cannot do magic in UP. All this may change since it is an assessment. But the assessment is being taken seriously.



Senior Congress leaders/ managers are fighting shy of entering the UP battlefield because any debacle will singe them. It is forecast that the defeat will rankle as much as Rahul's rout in Bihar at the hands of Nitish Kumar.



But on the non-Congress side, it will throw wide open the issue of prime-ministership. Some analysts believe Mayawati will stake her claim as strongly as will Nitish Kumar. This is possible.



But Nitish will be on solider ground. Mayawati's tempestuousness, dodgy governance and refusal to share the fruits of coalition politics will prove her undoing.



Never mind, Ms Mayawati is expected to say. If her winning streak continues in 2014, her big bloc of MPs will have a decisive say in who forms the next government and becomes PM. If she sits out in the opposition whilst ruling UP, she will be formidable.



Countering Mayawati will be easier for Nitish, though, than keeping BJP prime-ministerial contenders like Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jaitley and Narendra Modi at bay. From today's statement after meeting the RSS chief, it appears L.K.Advani is not in the PM's race. In case Advani at a later date convinces the RSS about his prime-ministerial qualities, Nitish is stuck.



But it does appear that the RSS has, in its informal style, convinced Advani to play the role of elder statesman. His proposed yatra will advance that role.



As an elder statesman, Advani can be quite damaging to the Congress. The Congress will stoke fears of his previous yatra. But if no PM ambition attaches to Advani, the yatra could bring serious reverses to the Congress on core themes such as good governance and zero tolerance for corruption.



An Advani on the roll could widen the BJP-Congress gap, and the wider it gets, the less chances Nitish has of becoming PM. Then the race will open among BJP contenders, where Advani, if he keeps his own ambitions locked up, will have considerable say in the choice of PM candidate.



Certainly, a lot of this is projective, taking off from the Congress's internal assessment of a poor showing in UP. If the Congress does do badly, it will be too demoralized to put up a fight in 2014, leaving the field open for the opposition. In which case, the scenario described above could play out.



But one thing is clear. UP holds the key to the 2014 polls. Winning UP should be top on the agenda for every consequential political party in North India.


BJP Future - 7 - simplyrohit21 - 09-23-2011

[url="http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/op-ed/message-from-modi/316608.html"]Message from Modi[/url]



By Bharat Karnad



Quote:[...]Modi also targeted vote-bank politics. May be the show of Muslim ‘support’ at the event was a bit of political theatre, in the same league as Congress-wallahs staying overnight in Dalit hutments in the full glare of television cameras. But, there is little doubt that Muslims in the state recognise they are as much beneficiaries of good governance that Modi has delivered as anybody else, and that when he says he will not pander to them it means he will seek their votes as Gujaratis, not as Muslims. While the residents of Naroda-Patia seem unwilling to forgive and forget the incidents of 2002, their insistence on punishing Modi has the potential of again aggravating the communal divide that the spreading prosperity has begun to bridge.



Modi’s emergence on the national scene ensures that, for the first time, there will be a distinct, alternate, ideology for the voters to mull over while keeping in mind its successful run in Gujarat. He offers an antidote to the bankrupt, left-leaning, populism the Congress invariably falls back on when the going gets tough, to wit, the various social welfare schemes, such as MGNREGA, launched in recent times despite mountainous evidence showing that the billions of rupees allotted for such programmes are decanted by ‘middle men’, politicians and officials. Modi’s success in Gujarat emphasises the fact that a strong-minded leader determined on making the administrative system responsible for producing results, can radically transform the defunct, over-bureaucratised, system of government the country is saddled with[...]


BJP Future - 7 - dhu - 09-24-2011

Not sure what to make out of Modi's strategy to display a few token mullahs during his appearances. It appears to be a gesture to the urbanites who may otherwise be hesitant. Muslim presence however always has a hampering effect as noted by Elst: even one muslim makes Hindus less strident in voicing their opinions. Perhaps Modi is just giving a display of "no fear" in the face of the enemy -- Refusing the skull cap was essentially a public repudiation of Islam, in addition to escape from a political trap.

Anyway, I am sure Modi has no illusions about muslims. However, Sandhya Jain claims that the seculars have been trying to paint Modi as some type super-technocrat in order to tangentially remove any Hindu civilizational aspects to the discourse, and Modi has gone along with this. This may be just a way to expand his base, his supporters will always support him, the apolitical will also gravitate to him. ???

BJP Future - 7 - Guest - 09-24-2011

[quote name='dhu' date='24 September 2011 - 03:54 AM' timestamp='1316816160' post='112979']

...his supporters will always support him, the apolitical will also gravitate to him...

[/quote]



Dhuji,



In politics nothing of that sort is a given.



In the Dravidian Tamilnadu and in the socialist Bihar, Karunanidhi and Lalu were given the sack for they couldn't command the emotive chord. 'Development' is not an emotive chord with the larger population but bribe is. Religion is an emotive chord that propelled BJP after Ayodhya. There could be other emotive chords as well and they can defeat bribe which otherwise is an efficient tool. Bribery takes many forms such as naked cash offering to materials such as free rice or TV sets or reservations to fringe sections etc. In the case of Congress it also takes the form of pitting one section against the other on caste and religious basis.



But then BJP became secular and no sooner they went this way the bribers took command and defeated them. Bribery is the proven tool of secularism and the neo-secularist BJP proved no match to the experienced black money hoarders of the Congress.



Development slogan (India Shining!) brought disaster to the Hajpayee led BJP, screaming of 'wealth stashing in foreign lands' got the boot in the rear for Advani. Modi has not learnt this lesson from his national party.



Capitalist 'development' is subject to extreme vagaries of the market and today's European debt crisis is a stark reality to this unmitigating disaster called market economy where all humans are made wage slaves and who are variously kept either at work or being laid off from it as the market dictates. Capitalism is the pursuit of profit and it is global, that is the anti-thesis of nationalism.



Gujaratis thrive a lot in foreign lands and their nationalism is in their language and not in the land of Gujarat. Gujarti 'nationalism' is nothing new. We have seen this in Kerala where the Keralites will choose a fellow Malayali even if he is a Muslim or Christian rather than a fellow Hindu who may or may not speak Malayalam. This is the essence of Linguism. If Mody is going to tread into this illusion of so called development (a euphemism applied against Hindu identity) and parochial nationalism his political demise is not far off.



Hindu identity is the underlying current that is propelling Modi. Its historical weight is too heavy and Modi would ignore it only at his own peril. Talking 'secular equality' to please the putrid kept press isn't worth it. He has been winning against the kept press so why change course?



Sandhya Jain and Radha Rajan remind Modi of this stark reality in their own unique style.



I expect Modi to correct his course though.

BJP Future - 7 - simplyrohit21 - 09-24-2011

[quote name='dhu' date='24 September 2011 - 03:54 AM' timestamp='1316816160' post='112979']

Not sure what to make out of Modi's strategy to display a few token mullahs during his appearances. It appears to be a gesture to the urbanites who may otherwise be hesitant. Muslim presence however always has a hampering effect as noted by Elst: even one muslim makes Hindus less strident in voicing their opinions. Perhaps Modi is just giving a display of "no fear" in the face of the enemy -- Refusing the skull cap was essentially a public repudiation of Islam, in addition to escape from a political trap.

Anyway, I am sure Modi has no illusions about muslims. However, Sandhya Jain claims that the seculars have been trying to paint Modi as some type super-technocrat in order to tangentially remove any Hindu civilizational aspects to the discourse, and Modi has gone along with this. This may be just a way to expand his base, his supporters will always support him, the apolitical will also gravitate to him. ???

[/quote]



Dhu-ji,



This fast, as noted earlier, was done for multiple purposes. One of them was to perform a ground test as to who all will support him if he is to run for PM and it has worked wonderfully well. For example there has not been any form of support from Nitish Kumar (apparently). At the same time there is something else which the media and many other observers have missed completely.



Modi has worked up his way from ground and he knows what is the reason for BJP losing its votes and what keeps the average ground level cadre disappointed. BJP has given up on its core issues -at least that is what the ground soldiers perceive due to the constant focus of BJP stalwarts only on development and corruption. The very reason they lose out time and again is partly due to the party workers disillusioned by the party top brass on the matters of Hindu concerns. And this idea is also supported if we carefully listen to the thoughts put across by those who were once at the helm in BJP (watch Govindacharya/Arun Shourie's lengthy interviews on youtube, specially Govindacharya). Modi knows this incredibly well. And it would be a mistake to judge his fast in terms of him trying to project a more secular, clean, pro-muslim image. [color="#0000FF"]Modi does not require Muslim votes[/color] and he will not budge on that one -that is unambiguous. Media is simply confused on his tactics while trying to judge him with 'muslim appeasement' lens.



Besides to put it bluntly, Modi doesn't give a whit about what media writes about him, had that been the case he could not have survived the 9 year media trial singularly targeted at him and yet remain so popular; so much so that he gets re-elected again and again. Whatever the observes want to paint, the ground reality is something else and Modi knows it extremely well. Like you mentioned shri Elst has also reminded the same, time and again that instead of focusing on its core issues which brought it to power, BJP is just bothered about 'who is the neta who can get us out of this mess'. What they really must be doing is to see what are the causes that lead to their defeat time and again at national level; for those are the very reason which as they put it in vernacular press which leads to this: 'bjp ke zamini karyakarta hataash hain party ke uchadhikariyo se'





Quote:Echo the sentiments by Savithri-ji



Hindu identity is the underlying current that is propelling Modi. Its historical weight is too heavy and Modi would ignore it only at his own peril. Talking 'secular equality' to please the putrid kept press isn't worth it. [color="#FF0000"]He has been winning against the kept press so why change course?[/color]


BJP Future - 7 - dhu - 09-24-2011

One of the clearly islamist "stage guests" explains that the topi offer was a definite Kangressi conspiracy (minute 1:40)

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBRnkR736ks"]Narendra Modi Topi Controversy - a Congress conspiracy [/url]



The fellow also endorses the line "appeasement for none, justice for all" as well as makes a perfectly nonsensical demand "hum dharma aur raj dharma ko ek saath se jodna nahi chahte" (3:40). Plainly, his appearance with Modi was an attempt at exacting a concession of no dharma in politics



Still, Is it possible Modi is thinking long-term dissolution of the liberating ideology, given that Modi is not an aspiring socialite as some in the BJP?

BJP Future - 7 - simplyrohit21 - 09-24-2011

[quote name='dhu' date='24 September 2011 - 11:02 AM' timestamp='1316841899' post='112985']



Still, Is it possible Modi is thinking long-term dissolution of the liberating ideology, given that Modi is not an aspiring socialite as some in the BJP?

[/quote]



I think it is most likely. However, I am afraid that LKA might not relent on his position. This has been shared by insiders as well that Advaniji is not willing to give on his aspirations for PM for he knows that this is his last chance to run for it. In short, BJP may cash in on Modi factor but it may not anoint him when the time comes.



The following must be of interest:



[url="http://gulabkothari.wordpress.com/"]राजनीतिक चातुर्मास[/url]



Quote:[size="2"]इसी घटना का एक कृष्ण पक्ष यह भी है कि लालकृष्ण आडवाणी अपनी यात्रा की चर्चा भी करवा गए। हालांकि बाद में यह समाचार रूकवा दिया गया। संघ और भाजपा दोनों की ही नाराजगी को धता बताकर अपने स्वभाव के अनुकूल अपना मत भाजपा पर थोप गए। मोदी के मंच के आगे आम जनता को नदारद देखकर इनकी समझ में आ गया होगा, कि इनकी यात्रा की गत क्या होगी। जरूरी नहीं कि भाजपा और संघ के कार्यकर्ता भी इनका साथ दें। आडवाणी को आज वार्ता के लिए नागपुर पहुंचना है। वहां वे पार्टी अध्यक्ष से तो मिलेंगे ही, संघ प्रमुख से भी मिलने का प्रयास करेंगे।



विश्व में किसी भी राजनेता के (लोकतंत्र में) अहंकार का यह चरम था। उनको तो पता भी नहीं चला होगा कि देशभर में क्या प्रतिक्रिया हुई।[/size]



PS: The author is pro-hindu albeit somewhat of secularist, yet worth a read.

BJP Future - 7 - Guest - 09-24-2011

I watched Nitish on the TV when a reporter asked him of Modi's fast and Nitish put a namaskar and walked away. I felt he merely did not want to get involved in the secular media's mischief making. Yet the media read and propagated it as non-support to Modi's fast. Actually this is a non-issue.



No one knows Nitish Kumar beyond Bihar unlike Modi who is actually taller than the BJP only because he stood up to Sonia leading the Islamic hoards in Gujarat. Hindus all over the country would ever be grateful and respectful to Modi for his audacious defense of the Hindus. Nitish is no match and certainly cannot be pitted against Modi though the secularists may try hard to do so.



Actually I do not think that Nitish is doing anything to upset the internal relations and cohesion within the NDA. I am certain that Nitish is terribly aware that he is a dead meat without BJP and he is foolish to think that the Muslim votes are more important than Hindu votes.



Unlike the national BJP whose love for secularism is insane, most provincial leaders in all states are pro-Hindu. Bihar BJP would certainly wake up, stop playing second fiddle to Nitish and show him his size if Nitish ever takes a stand nationally against Modi. In fact anytime hereafter would be the right time to do so for Lalu and the Congress are too weak to exploit and the elections are years away. If there is a general election for the Centre do you think Nitish could be wise to ditch BJP and join the likes of Lalu and Sonia?



So in my opinion Nitish vs Modi is a non-issue.

BJP Future - 7 - Husky - 09-24-2011

The Sandhya Jain and Radha Rajan articles posted somewhere above had some interesting comments:



http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=1970

Quote: "Certified Islamphobe"? // Well, here is an example that curiously serves for both his "certified Islamphobia" (certified too by a leading Islamist) as well as his "inclusive development". // "Leader of Opposition Sushma Swaraj quoted her speech along with the details of a Muslim entrepreneur, who was recommended to Modi by Mehbooba, and got his unit established in half an hour. `Our political opponent and PDP head Mehbooba Mufti praised Modi for allowing a Muslim entrepreneur to set up a factory. Modi not only gave time to the entrepreneur but also roped in all the required officials and cleared the proposal in half an hour'”......(http://www.dailypioneer.com/pioneer-news/todays-newspaper/7986-sushma-rebuts-mehbooba-omar-smirks.html)......"Mehbooba Mufti, the leader of the PDP, a party opposed to the BJP, said that a Muslim friend of hers wanted to invest in Gujarat and was astonished to be quickly granted an appointment. And when he met Mr. Modi he had a decision in half-an-hour" (Shujaat Bukhari, "War of words between Mehboob, Omar over Sushma's statement", The Hindu, 21-9-11, p.5). // Incidentally, this example serves too to underline why we need a Jan Lokpal especially for the likes of Mr Modi . In his "certified Islamphobia" and "inclusive development", he personally took a decision based on a political recommendation and, prima facie, in violation of the established procedures/rules of business. He exercised his discretion to favour a Muslim recommended by a public servant also a Muslim. It was purely religion-based, and not at all merit-based. No public interest is evident. It is a case of indulging in discrimination, both directly and indirectly. Prima facie it violates ss. 2(1), 2(4, proviso), 2(9)(a), 2(13)(a),(b ),(d) of the Jan Lokpak Bill - http://www.annahazare.org/pdf/Jan%20lokpal%20bill%20by%20Expert%20(Eng).pdf // Surely this egregious example of his "certified Islamphobia" and "inclusive development" (aka minorityism, minority appeasement, Nehruvian secularism) well "qualifies him to be the `Prime minister' of [y]our country"? But why does "observer" worry about what happens in "our" country? Let him focus on his own country, whichever it be.

Krishen Kak

21 Sep 2011





What is Narendra Modi's record against Evangelists - how much re-conversion success is there in Gujarat?

Narayani

21 Sep 2011

[color="#800080"](Wasn't Swami Aseemananda active in Gujarat?

BTW, any word about him? Hindus can't protect their own, can they. Hopeless. The ones brave enough to protect/stand up for other Hindoos are always the first targets of christianism: the very innocent Dara Singh, Swami Lakshmananda, and those framed under the "Hindu Terror" christofiction: Swami Aseemananda and the others who have been disappeared.)[/color]





If BJP is now supporting the Ulema Council demand for probe in Batla House, and supporting the Meo Muslims in Bharatpur - it follows that the whole RSS-BJP is on Muslim appeasement policy and fooling the Hindus. The Hindus can only blame themselves if they go along with this bunch of Betrayers.

Sheetal

21 Sep 2011





Another incisive article by Radhaji, backed by painstaking research. First Sandhyaji and now Radhaji has very rightly drawn attention to the flip side of Narendra Modi's approach. [color="#0000FF"]High economic growth, however inclusive, cannot protect the Hindu society from Jihadi violence and missionary mischief.[/color] The fabled wealth of ancient India did not protect it from Muslim marauders. If anythig, it only served to attract more invaders. Modi's single-minded focus on development and studied silence on Hindu-related issues are naturally causing misgivings in the minds of more alert and more observant Hindu nationalists such as Sandhyaji and Radhaji. It was a sad day for Hindus when Narendra Modi also took to parading his Muslim followers, as do Lalu and Mulayam. It is one thing to have backers among Muslims, it is another to flaunt them as one's credentials to a national role. BJP has traversed this road before under Vajpayee. It only cost it credibility and votes among Hindus, without earning a single Muslim vote. Advani tried it by praising Jinnah (of all people) and describing Babri demolition as the saddest day in his life in a desparate bid to win acceptability among the secularists circles. He only succeeded in marginalising himself further. If Modi goes that way, he will also end where his seniors did. He has nothing to gain among Muslims and everything to lose among the Hindus by resorting to such gimmicks. As to winning respect of secularists, it will never happen. The more the BJP leaders bend, the more they will be asked to bend. As Koenraad Elst said, the secularists are like spolt brats of the rich. The sight of beggars crawling and groveling before them only makes them laugh. Virendra Parekh

Virendra Parekh

21 Sep 2011





"He has nothing to gain among Muslims.....As to winning respect of secularists, it will never happen." // Exactly. See http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110114150529AA5mSvr or google "Narendra Modi did not stand by and allow the Gujarat riots to happen" to understand the viciousness of this lot and the lies they peddle about him as a "certified Islamphobe".

Krishen Kak

21 Sep 2011



[color="#0000FF"]During pre-independence, when many of the leaders were moving away from Sanatana Dharma or turned blind eyes to Hindu pains, Hindus were told that the focus is only on independence and those who still complained are branded as communal. Now when somebody points out the similar behaviour of so-called-hindu-party-leaders, we are told that the current focus is to throw out Sonia and her cohorts. So the history repeats itself[/color] and only God knows how long the Hindus have to wait before another Krishna appears

Sivakumar 21 Sep 2011



http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=1969

Quote:did not watch the drama in Gujarat but it was and is my speculation that Modi projecting himself on the national platform will make him bend over backwards to please the Muslims. It is my guess that he will out-congress Congress in his zeal to woo the Muslims in attempt to wean them away from the secularists. Muslims know how to milk the Hindu weakness. The best course for Hindus is a weak Congress rule and a strong BJP opposition. A weak BJP in power is worse than Congress in power.

Vinod 20 Sep 2011



The concept of 'secularism' has been well planned by evangelists as a justification for all their deeds. It is only us hindus who are unable to see the hind side of things and act like dim-witted fools. The secularism of Nepal cost us the only hindu nation left in the world. In Nepal today, the Hindu-Buddhist population is down from 97% to 85% in less than a decade. Also, one must note that all the Abrahamic religions have kept themselves their lands (un-secular). It is only the Hindus who have given up everything in the name of secularism. The problem remains that it is the RSS and the VHP that has been silent and has turned a blind-eye (possibly filled their pockets to keep shut) to the rampant destruction of the Hindu Nation. It remains only the Hindus who are to blame for these activities. In the wake of globalization and world economies, it is the hindus who have forgotten their culture and who are letting these abrahamic religions get their roots further into our culture.

Anonymous 20 Sep 2011

(Wish Hindus would stop reducing their religion to only "culture" or "civilisation". Anyway, that stupidity too will come back to bite people. As it has already. "Van schade en schande leert men.")





I was shocked to see the hitherto unknown Bhaiyu ji Maharaj giving the juice to Narendra Modi. He networked with Anna Hazare also and is close to too many politicians. It would seem that there is a gang of globetrotting sanyasis [self proclaimed] who network across the political spectrum like lobbyists, with god alone knows what what agendas, funders, agencies, even corporates behind them. Modi needs to explain his connection with this man and why he was selected to break his fast.

Vedam 20 Sep 2011





RE .....Leader of Opposition Sushma Swaraj speech & details of a Muslim entrepreneur recommended to Modi by Mehbooba Mufti & got his unit established in half an hour. (http://www.dailypioneer.com/pioneer-news/todays-newspaper/7986-sushma-rebuts-mehbooba-omar-smirks.html) + (Shujaat Bukhari, "War of words between Mehboob, Omar over Sushma's statement", The Hindu, 21-9-11, p.5). ### Now, let us see what the Gujarat CM did: [1] He is a public servant. [2] He personally took a decision based on a political recommendation and, prima facie, in violation of the established procedures/rules of business. He exercised his discretion to favour a member of a specific religion recommended by a public servant of the same religion. It was purely religion-based, and not at all merit-based. No public interest is evident. It is a case of indulging in discrimination, both directly and indirectly. Hence, it is a fit case for investigation by a Jan Lokpal.

Krishen Kak 21 Sep 2011



If BJP is now supporting the Ulema Council demand for probe in Batla House, and supporting the Meo Muslims in Bharatpur - it follows that the whole RSS-BJP is on Muslim appeasement policy and fooling the Hindus. The Hindus can only blame themselves if they go along with this bunch of Betrayers.

Sheetal 21 Sep 2011



Sandhyaji has rightly drawn attention to the flip side of Narendra Modi's approach. High economic growth cannot protect Hindu society from Jihadi violence and missionary mischief. The fabled wealth of ancient India did not protect it from Muslim marauders; it only served to attract more invaders. Modi's single-minded focus on development and studied silence on Hindu-related issues are naturally causing misgivings in the minds of more alert and observant Hindu nationalists. It was a sad day for Hindus when Narendra Modi also took to parading Muslim followers, like Lalu and Mulayam. It is one thing to have backers among Muslims, it is another to flaunt them as one's credentials to a national role. BJP has traversed this road before under Vajpayee. It only cost it credibility and votes among Hindus, without earning a single Muslim vote. Advani tried it by praising Jinnah (of all people) and describing Babri demolition as the saddest day in his life in a desperate bid to win acceptability among secularist circles. He only succeeded in marginalising himself further. If Modi goes that way, he will also end where his seniors did. He has nothing to gain among Muslims and everything to lose among Hindus by resorting to such gimmicks. The more the BJP leaders bend, the more they will be asked to bend.

Virender 21 Sep 2011





A very prescient article, Sandhya ji. Now Narendra Modi has raced to the top of the pseudo-secular bandwagon, demanding ‘relaxed visas’ for Pakistanis wanting to visit Ajmer Sharif when they come to India to watch cricket matches. He also wants the Centre to give airfare subsidy to people of Indian origin to motivate them to “witness Kumbh melas”. What does ‘witness Kumbh’ mean? Surely Hindus wanting to bathe in the Kumbh can take a visa and come. When he wants PIOs as tourists, does he mean Muslims and Christians should come as voyeurs and trouble Hindu women? Ambition to be PM has made him lose his mind. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/modi-now-wants-easy-visa-for-pakistanis-visiting-ajmer/850578/

Gaurang 23 Sep 2011



If Modi does intend to work for Hindus after all, he may have to let Hindus know. In more than mere words. Working for a Hindu nation means specifically 1. Not remotely encouraging christoislamism and even 2. causing a contraction of christoislamism rather than letting it expand or even allowing it to maintain its current extent.







The following's not an interesting comment, but one by someone who seems to have forgotten that TSP-W's population went from about one quarter Hindu to 1% Hindu since independence (and that is all that the future - and very secular - Indians of Hindu ancestry like "Jitendra Desai" can look forward to from islam):



http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=1969



Quote:It is wrong to judge him as a person who has CROSSED OVER!.He has not.Is it wrong to have national ambitions?In any case neither NaMo nor BJP are likely to do anything till they have analysed UP election results in 2012. Is it wrong to tell muslims that they haven't got anything from Congress all these years and appeal to them to join mainstream? NaMo can win next elections in Gujarat with or without muslim votes.Similarly BJP can win 200 seats in next Lok sabha without muslim votes.NaMo is trying to reassure the nation about post 2014 scenario of NDA rule with BJP having 200+ seats.In such an event is it not fair to assure the minorities that they will have equal opportunities? Political [color="#0000FF"]Hindutva[/color] will have to be redefined for [color="#0000FF"]new generation of Hindus.[/color]This generation outnumber old Hindus and is demanding much more from Hindu leaders than mere reaffirmation of faith. NaMo is promising better governance to ALL,that iincludes minorities. We need to answer, why we can't go to war with Bangladesh over the issue of illegal immigration. We have gone to Dhaka to donate $1 billion and share waters with them, while we house 2 crores of them in our country. By 2050,we will see a UNITED STATES OF HINDUSTHAN, with 100 crore Hindus and 50 crore muslims from Bangladesh,Pakistan,Sri lanka,Nepal and Afghanistan. New Hindus could be looking at this picture of the future than their bloodied past.NaMo could be the first Hindu leader to take the subcontinent closer to this idea of new HINDUSTHAN.[/color]

Jitendra Desai 20 Sep 2011
Good to know there's no need to worry/care about the "new generation of 'Hindus'" (the label is clearly all that will stick): they seem to be just peachy with - and even welcoming of - christoislamism. (Except they don't care to know that it has a bite worse than its bark. But they are free to find out through direct experience rather than bothering to learn from history. The future - belonging to them - will be their problem after all.)

BJP Future - 7 - G.Subramaniam - 09-25-2011

BJP supports meo muslims against Hindu gujjars

Islamist Shahnawaz husain who has grabbed a hindu womb, was the bjp spokesman



http://www.milligazette.com/news/858-chandupura-dalits-attacked-by-meo-muslims



Meo Muslims attack Chandupura Dalits, get VHP support

The Milli Gazette

Published Online: Apr 08, 2011

Print Issue: 16-31 March 2011

After violence against Dalits at Husaipur village in Rajasthan the Meo Muslims too have now attacked Dalits of Chandupura where too the violence erupted on a trivial issue.



The houses of Dalits from Jatav community were stoned for around two hours by Meo Muslims after a goat belonging to a Dalit family entered a Meo Muslim’s farm. Special Task Force has been deployed in the area to prevent any untoward incident. The situation in the area is tense but presently under control.



Of the many injured the condition of six Dalits remains serious. Dalits have alleged that stones were hurled at them in the presence of police and civil officers and they are concentrating more on compromise meetings instead of providing adequate relief measures.



In an unusual move the local unit of Vishwa Hindu Parishad has extended support to the Meo Muslims.

BJP Future - 7 - ramana - 09-25-2011

I see that just as ABV was undermined by those who thought he wasnt good enough are at it again with NM. Do these experts know the electoral demographics?

BJP Future - 7 - Guest - 09-25-2011

The three-week statewide stir that the BJP’s Gujarat unit had launched on September 6 will culminate into a public rally in Ahmedabad on Sunday afternoon.



Slated to be held in Vastral area, an outskirt of southern Ahmedabad, is expected to have nearly half-a-million people attending it.



The campaign was launched to reach to the public with three major issues: seeking recall of Governor Kamla Beniwal for appointing Jutsice (retired) R A Mehta as Lokayukta without consulting the state government, the Governor sitting on passage of two bills, one on impact fee for regularisation of unauthorised structures and the other on hike in women quota in local bodies.



This will be the first major function Chief Minister Narendra Modi will be addressing after his Sadbhavna Mission fast at the Gujarat Univesity Convention Centre from September 17 to 19.