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Historicity of Jesus - 2 - ramana - 03-31-2010 History Channel had a 3-D reconstruction of Jesus from the "shroud of Turin". Very desperate. One question wasn't the shroud proven questionable? Historicity of Jesus - 2 - dhu - 04-01-2010 Rajeev Srinivasan's comment on the below article: carthago delenda est: exactly like pak's single-minded obsession with india. Quote:The rise and fall of Carthage Historicity of Jesus - 2 - G.Subramaniam - 04-02-2010 [quote name='ramana' date='31 March 2010 - 10:35 AM' timestamp='1270011425' post='105560'] History Channel had a 3-D reconstruction of Jesus from the "shroud of Turin". Very desperate. One question wasn't the shroud proven questionable? [/quote] The shroud was dated to 1000 AD Historicity of Jesus - 2 - dhu - 04-02-2010 Why did they need proof in the christian fortress that was medieval europe? Historicity of Jesus - 2 - ramana - 04-03-2010 its getting weaker. However they used belivers to do the modelling etc to ensure no controversies. The fact the shroud was dated 1000 A.D. was never brought up. A lot of bogus analysis on pigments and depth of paint layer and flash of light due to resurrection was line of thoguht. Kind of using the scientific process for faith. Historicity of Jesus - 2 - Guest - 04-03-2010 [quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='01 April 2010 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1270169190' post='105592'] The shroud was dated to 1000 AD [/quote] Some argue, the sample that was used in 1988 to carbon date look at a section of the shroud that was woven into the shroud after 1532 :-)))))) Historicity of Jesus - 2 - G.Subramaniam - 04-03-2010 [quote name='Swamy G' date='03 April 2010 - 03:26 AM' timestamp='1270244908' post='105605'] Some argue, the sample that was used in 1988 to carbon date look at a section of the shroud that was woven into the shroud after 1532 :-)))))) [/quote] You are correct, the date is closer to 1500AD Historicity of Jesus - 2 - G.Subramaniam - 04-03-2010 [quote name='ramana' date='03 April 2010 - 12:58 AM' timestamp='1270236024' post='105602'] its getting weaker. However they used belivers to do the modelling etc to ensure no controversies. The fact the shroud was dated 1000 A.D. was never brought up. A lot of bogus analysis on pigments and depth of paint layer and flash of light due to resurrection was line of thoguht. Kind of using the scientific process for faith. [/quote] I just saw a recent magazine of US news and world and they had the whole issue focused on jesus and they used the Josephus forgery as proof of his existence I also have discovery and nat-geo channels and they frequently have shows on jesus and these shows portray him as a real person Historicity of Jesus - 2 - acharya - 04-03-2010 [quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='03 April 2010 - 08:03 AM' timestamp='1270261520' post='105607'] I just saw a recent magazine of US news and world and they had the whole issue focused on jesus and they used the Josephus forgery as proof of his existence I also have discovery and nat-geo channels and they frequently have shows on jesus and these shows portray him as a real person [/quote] All these channels are in India now and Rupert Murdoch has bought Hinduism Today. Unless we have Indian chennel for our own history we will get rubbish from western and other history. Historicity of Jesus - 2 - G.Subramaniam - 04-04-2010 [quote name='acharya' date='03 April 2010 - 08:15 AM' timestamp='1270262241' post='105608'] All these channels are in India now and Rupert Murdoch has bought Hinduism Today. Unless we have Indian chennel for our own history we will get rubbish from western and other history. [/quote] Hinduism Today is published by some white hindu monks out of hawaii Historicity of Jesus - 2 - Guest - 04-05-2010 [quote name='acharya' date='02 April 2010 - 09:45 PM' timestamp='1270262241' post='105608'] All these channels are in India now and Rupert Murdoch has bought Hinduism Today. Unless we have Indian chennel for our own history we will get rubbish from western and other history. [/quote] ha haa hha. No it is not true. On April 1st they had 5 articles - all of them were April Fool's Day Prank. The one I totally fell was for the Texas school board deciding the Pi value to be 3 instead of 3.14~. Then when I read that Rupert Murdoch bought Hinduism Today, then I smelled rat. When I googled, I saw the Pi prank was an older one. HT has come out and admitted it the pranks. They have categorically denied they will ever be sold to Rupert Murdoch. G.Sub: As for the White monks from Hawaii, unfortunately or fortunately they have the best multi-media presentation and information dissemination of Hinduism. I bought their book on Hinduism. It is top-notch. HAF uses their material. Motilal Publishers are talking to them, so are other book publishers in India. The current head of the monastery is touring India and meeting so many other swamijis. They have a good following in Mauritius, S.E.Asia, Srilanka. The # of Hindus in America, which HAF came out with was sourced from the Himalayan Academy (the publication arm of the Kauai Monastery). They have been always on the right side of the battle for the Hindus. If they are rats, then they are the greatest rats ever. Historicity of Jesus - 2 - Guest - 04-05-2010 Acharya: Here is the link about their April Fool's day prank: http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/xpress/2010/04/02/ Historicity of Jesus - 2 - G.Subramaniam - 04-05-2010 [quote name='Swamy G' date='05 April 2010 - 01:08 AM' timestamp='1270409414' post='105645'] ha haa hha. No it is not true. On April 1st they had 5 articles - all of them were April Fool's Day Prank. The one I totally fell was for the Texas school board deciding the Pi value to be 3 instead of 3.14~. Then when I read that Rupert Murdoch bought Hinduism Today, then I smelled rat. When I googled, I saw the Pi prank was an older one. HT has come out and admitted it the pranks. They have categorically denied they will ever be sold to Rupert Murdoch. G.Sub: As for the White monks from Hawaii, unfortunately or fortunately they have the best multi-media presentation and information dissemination of Hinduism. I bought their book on Hinduism. It is top-notch. HAF uses their material. Motilal Publishers are talking to them, so are other book publishers in India. The current head of the monastery is touring India and meeting so many other swamijis. They have a good following in Mauritius, S.E.Asia, Srilanka. The # of Hindus in America, which HAF came out with was sourced from the Himalayan Academy (the publication arm of the Kauai Monastery). They have been always on the right side of the battle for the Hindus. If they are rats, then they are the greatest rats ever. [/quote] IMHO, the white monks from Hawaii are legit, unlike ISKCON They have never denied that they are Hindus, are always against xtian missionaries and had several good articles on persecution of Hindus Historicity of Jesus - 2 - dhu - 04-05-2010 likely origin of the minaret Quote:Steeples generally serve as bell or clock towers. Towers were not a part of Christian churches until about AD 600, when they were adapted from military watchtowers. At first they were fairly modest and entirely separate structures from churches. Over time, they were incorporated into the church building and capped with ever-more elaborate roofs until the steeple resulted. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steeple_%28architecture%29"]link[/url] Historicity of Jesus - 2 - HareKrishna - 04-05-2010 [quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='05 April 2010 - 06:38 AM' timestamp='1270429248' post='105682'] IMHO, the white monks from Hawaii are legit, unlike ISKCON They have never denied that they are Hindus, are always against xtian missionaries and had several good articles on persecution of Hindus [/quote] Maybe Iskcon have a good impresion of Christ(this doesnt stop christians to curse harekrishnas when they see them).However i find some guys from Gaudya Math in western europe that are very against christianity especially against paulinism(Paul religion). Iskcon teachings are for all not just for indians.Non-indians have souls too.Just like shivaism,vishnuism,buddhism,smartism,yoga have the goal to save the soul from suffering so does Iskcon. In the spiritual world there is no material identities like im american,im jewish,im man ,im women.There you can have any form you want. Historicity of Jesus - 2 - HareKrishna - 04-05-2010 [quote name='dhu' date='05 April 2010 - 07:09 AM' timestamp='1270431067' post='105684'] likely origin of the minaret [/quote] Maybe some articles about persian influence on christian architecture and art will be good. Historicity of Jesus - 2 - Guest - 04-05-2010 [quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='04 April 2010 - 08:08 PM' timestamp='1270429248' post='105682'] IMHO, the white monks from Hawaii are legit, unlike ISKCON They have never denied that they are Hindus, are always against xtian missionaries and had several good articles on persecution of Hindus [/quote] I agree. From your words 'white monks' in your earlier post, I inferred differently. I have been following Kauai Monastery online for a year or two now; and find them championing for all the 'right' causes. Though they have a strong Srilankan Shaivite tradition, their books, pamphlets, India's history (for 6th graders is par excellence) are sect-agnostic. Sorry for going OT. Historicity of Jesus - 2 - rhytha - 04-05-2010 whats a 'Srilankan Shaivite tradition' ???, there is only tamil shaivism. IS there differnce between them! Historicity of Jesus - 2 - ramana - 04-06-2010 Clash of Titans is an epic titanic fail. An expensively made Godzilla type movie with huge distortions of Greek mythology. The Kraken has such a small mouth for the huge body! Sorry re-make of the old classic which first introduced the distortions. They make "Perseus", the hero figure, a man who fights the gods. He wont use the gifts of gods in the movie where as in original myth they are the key to his success. And the actor sports a Blackwater crew cut! They have token multicultrual figures: Touregs riding scorpions, a guy in a dhoti type attire predciting eternal doom and destruction. the only good thing was Medusa who SHQ said was a snake in a bikini! Just like Jesus he is a fisherman and has a divine father. In fact Jesus rhymes with Persus. The only difference is the deceit vs assumed visit in case of the latter figure. Historicity of Jesus - 2 - Guest - 04-06-2010 [quote name='rhytha' date='05 April 2010 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1270479423' post='105696'] whats a 'Srilankan Shaivite tradition' ???, there is only tamil shaivism. IS there differnce between them! [/quote] You are correct. I used the word 'Srilankan' to imply Subramaniyaswamy (guru of the current aadhenam head) followed the Jaffna paramparai. |