Jammu And Kashmir - 2

Naresh · 11-01-2006, 02:01 AM

Dear All :

The news of Indian Railways transporting DEMUs by Road is going to cause Severe Heartburns to the Denizens of the Land of the Pure.

I quote below the Last Paragraph of the following Article :

[center]Kashmir options : an analysis[/center]

[center]Altaf Qadri[/center]

Yet another challenge is waiting â that approximately till 2010, a metallic road link from Jammu to Srinagar is likely to be established. The significance of it is that the geo-political edge that Pakistan had over the valley of Kashmir will be completely compromised.<img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /> In fact, it will consume less effort and time to reach to Indian Punjab than to reach Rawalpindi.<!--emo& Confused

tupid--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pakee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pakee.gif' /> Taking stock of the situation it appears that the joint control option is not first of all viable and above all it would not be a political response to the aspirations of the people of Kashmir. However, there should not be any inhibition in seeking an independent sovereign status for the valley of Kashmir with comprehensive international representation. Because Pakistan must, for its own security reasons, seek a solution that places Kashmir at a neutral position in whatever capacity.

The writer is a freelance columnist : altafqadri@hotmail.co

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11-01-2006, 02:50 AM

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Please send this bottle to Mushy and Altaf Qadri

11-05-2006, 04:21 AM

QUOTE200 kg RDX seized in Doda 
Pioneer News Service | Jammu
In a major haul, security forces recovered 200 kg of RDX from a militant's hideout in Sumbar village near Ramban in Doda district on Saturday morning. SSP Ramban, Basant Rath said that a police team raided a hideout on a tip off that deputy Divisional Commander of Hizbul Mujahideen Aijaz alias Qarri is hiding there.

He said that during the raid, the police party seized a cache of 200 kg of RDX along with 61 detonators and timer device in Sumbar. He said no arrests have been made in the case as militants, probably experts in making improvised explosive devices had managed to escape before the police team reached the spot. The seized material was probably to be used to cause explosions in Jammu after the opening of Civil Secretariat and other offices in Jammu they said.

In a separate incident, security forces gunned down one Lashkar-e-Toiba militant in Mendhar area of Poonch district, police said, adding one AK-56 rifle and some ammunition were recovered from him. Meanwhile, security forces recovered one .12 bore rifle, 15 rounds of AK assault rifle's ammunition and three kg explosives during a search operation in Basantgarh area of Udhampur.Â

11-05-2006, 11:46 AM

Four of family killed after refusal of marriage proposalQUOTEFour members, including three women, of a family were killed by Hizbul Mujahideen militants in Udhampur on after their refusal to marry off two daughters to the ultras.
Father, mother and two daughters were killed on Sunday in Dalwa village after they turned down a marriage proposal of Hizb militants, Senior Superintendent of Police (Udhampur) Ramban Basant Kumar Rath said.
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Those murdered were Bhat, his wife Fatima and daughters Shahida and Mubeen.

11-09-2006, 11:03 AM

Pak had planned to jail late Sheikh AbdullahQUOTENEW DELHI: Pakistan Government had on the eve of its 1947 invasion of Kashmir planned to invite late Sheikh Abdullah to Karachi for "personal discussions" with Muhammad Ali Jinnah and detain him and declare a "provisional government of free Kashmir formed under his Presidentship while he would be rotting in jail. 

This and several other startling behind-the-scene goings on in Kashmir then have been brought to light in a just- published book on the history of Jammu and Kashmir's accession to India.

According to the book 'Bonfire of Kashmiryat - Deconstructing the Accession' by well-known journalist Sandeep Bamzai, the D-Day of the planned invasion of Kashmir had to be postponed several times so as to entice Abdullah to come to Pakistan.

The book also discloses that Indian communists were at one stage in 1948-49 feared to be plotting to stage a coup against the National Conference government led by Sheikh Abdullah and capture power. 

It quotes the then Director of the Intelligence Bureau T G Sanjevi to have reported to Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru on August 5, 1948, about the serious threat of "communist infiltration" warning that the 'real intention'' was to topple the government

11-09-2006, 08:48 PM

Two lakh soldiers attend yoga classes in J&KQUOTEâArmy has also hired Yoga teachers in some of the units to impart Yoga course to the army personnel,â official sources confirmed to Hindustan Times adding that ârecently a disciple of Yoga Guru Swami Ramdev was invited at Dilkush in 16 Corps to train some of the army personnel how to exercise Yoga. After seeking training, those army personnel were further given the task to impart the similar type training to their colleagues as well.â

11-10-2006, 12:45 AM

Kashmiri Pandits burn their effigy in J&K
Kashmiri Pandits burnt an effigy symbolising their community in Jammu to express grave concern at the âextinctionâ of their identity and protest their neglect by the state government.

11-10-2006, 09:34 PM

Terror strikes mosque in J&K; 6 killed, 60 injuredQUOTEThe grenade, local residents said, was aimed at a religious leader Abdul Rasheed Dawoodi, chief of Sawt-Ul-Awliya (Voice of Allahâs Friends), who too was injured in the attack.

No militant group has claimed responsibility for the attack. However, the local residents said that they have captured a boy, who they say, threw the grenade and have kept him at an unknown place.

âWe will not hand him over to police but will punish him ourselvesâ, shouted a local resident, Ghulam Rasool. The columns of police and security forces have converged on the village. A middle-rung police officer present on the scene indicated to the Hindustan Times that they might go for search operation to trace the âcaptured boyâ. âWe are waiting for the media persons to leave. If they (residents) donât hand over the boy, we will launch search operationâ, he whispered.

11-11-2006, 10:45 PM

Sufi prayers attacked in Valley, four children among five killedQUOTESahai admitted, however, that the grenade was hurled at Dawoodi, the head of the Saut-ul-Aulia (the Voice of the Saints), who over the past few years has emerged as a controversial religious figure in the Valley for his thrust on the teachings of Sufis.

Bestselling audio-cassettes of his speeches have generated a heated debate in Kashmir with some sects accusing him of âmisrepresenting Islam and preaching blasphemyâ. In fact, Dawoodi has been attacked two times before in his hometown of Anantnag.

Sect war.

11-14-2006, 11:01 PM

QUOTETwin blasts rock Srinagar, 42 hurt
Pioneer.com
Khursheed Wani | Srinagar
Two deafening blasts in Srinagar and Baramulla sent grim reminders of terrorism to foreign secretaries of India and Pakistan who began a two-day talks in New Delhi on Tuesday to find ways of establishing peace and eradication of terrorism in the region.

At least 19 civilians and 13 security personnel including an Army Major were injured in the blasts. Hizbul Mujahideen, the indigenous militant outfit that is fighting the security forces for the past 17 years, claimed responsibility for the attacks.

The deadlier blast took place in the summer capital Srinagar's bustling Karan Nagar locality at around 4 pm. Sources said militants had parked an explosive laden car outside a well-guarded CRPF formation and triggered the Improvised Explosive Device (IED) fitted inside it. The CRPF formation was the target of the attack.

Sources said that militants first lobbed a grenade and then triggered the IED after few seconds. As many as 22 persons including four CRPF and five local police personnel got injured in the blast. The blast's sound could be heard in a five- kilometre periphery and it created panic among people in major parts of the city. Security forces immediately cordoned off the area to track down perpetrators of the crime. However, no arrests were made.

Earlier in the day, a separate blast at Khanpora locality of North Kashmir's Baramulla district left four soldiers including a Major and six civilians injured.

Sources said that militants triggered an IED at 1.45 pm when an Army convoy was on its way to Uri from Baramulla. Three Army vehicles damaged under the impact of the blast and four soldiers including an officer Major Amit Arvedi got injured.

A defence spokesperson denied that the blast was caused due to triggering of an IED. "It was a grenade attack on the convoy in which three soldiers injuried," he said. A caller identifying himself as the spokesperson of Hizbul Mujahideen claimed that his outfit carried out the blast.

Meanwhile, another person succumbed to injuries in a Srinagar hospital taking the death toll of Friday's mosque blast at Tahab village of southern Pulwama district to seven.

The alleged grenade thrower who was handed over to the Army by the local people has been remanded in police custody for a week.

Meanwhile, unknown gunmen shot dead a trader at Soofshali in Kokernag belt of southern Anantnag district late on Monday night.


Moron Singh will ignore these attacks, like he did with Mumbai blast and will continue talks with his friends from his homeland Pakistan.
Good going, Moron Singh's homeland Zindabad.

**acharya** · 11-22-2006, 09:00 AM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LQoBUSE8-C8&m...ed&search=

India gets much money from the tourism since Kashmir is very beautiful- especially compared to the rather..um..unattractive [understatement of the year] India. You actually have no valid argument whatsoever- exactly like the Zionist regime in Palestine- they hang on to the past, hoping to explain the present[and failing miserably] Kashmir has a Hindu/Pagan HISTORY-this was HUNDREDS of years back- it is now overwhelmingly Muslim- this is the PRESENT.

11-27-2006, 11:52 AM

J&K separatists come to blows QUOTERocks, punches, chairs and abuses flew thick as hundreds of furious supporters of Kashmir's independence clashed on Sunday with pro-Pakistan rivals on a street in Srinagarâin one of the biggest-ever public showdowns between the two ideologies.

Sixteen peopleâincluding 12 civilians and four policemenâwere injured and top separatist leader Yasin Malik, who supports freedom for Kashmir, was holed up in a building surrounded by hundreds of pro-Pakistan rioters until Sunday evening, local police officer Farooq Ahmed said.

However, the tally of injured could be higher as the street fights lasted for hours. An HT reporter saw terrified people rushing out of the area into narrow alleys, some holding their bloodied faces. Photographers were warned not to take pictures and witnesses said some of them were beaten up.
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Bharatvarsh · 11-28-2006, 05:18 AM

QUOTEConvertâ shot dead in ValleyÂ
MUZAFFAR RAINA

Srinagar, Nov. 21: Suspected militants today gunned down an engineer, a Muslim who had reportedly converted to Christianity, at his native Mamoosa village in Pattan, around 35 km from here.

http://telegraphindia.com/1061122/asp/nati...ory_7033863.asp
What are Cedric Prakash, Javed Akhtar, Shabana doing about this persecution of minorities in Kashmir?

11-30-2006, 05:11 PM

And the world remained silent

Bharatvarsh · 12-02-2006, 02:23 AM

QUOTEHizb 'Div Commdr' Suhail Faisal killed

From Ahmed Ali Fayyaz

SRINAGAR, Nov 28: Suhail Faisal, one of Hizbul Mujahideen's most wanted commanders in Jammu and Kashmir, has been killed by security forces at his hideout which he had established in the residential locality of the former Chief Minister Mufti Mohammad Sayeed and his relatives in Baba Mohalla of Bijbehara township in south Kashmir. Meanwhile, suspected militants have fired upon the wife of one-time Hizbul Muhajideen chief Abdul Majeed Dar in the Srinagar outskirts of Chhanapora and 9 civilian, including 5 tourists, have been left wounded in a grenade attack at the tourist attraction of Tangmarg in Baramulla district today.

Informed sources told the EXCELSIOR that late last night troops of 3 Para, Rashtriya Rifles 01 Bn and District Police Anantnag laid siege to the interior locality of Baba Mohalla in Bijbehara township in Anantnag district. According to a specific information available with a security agency, south Kashmir's most wanted militant, after the Hizb Operational chief Gazi Misbah-ud-din, Mohammad Ashraf Shah alias Suhail Faisal S/o Habibullah Shah R/o Jablipora, Bijbehara, had established a secret hideout at the residence of one Ghulam Ahmed Najjar. According to the tip off, Suhail Faisal was present at the hideout.

As troops swooped on the target house, the holed up militant came out of his cell and opened fire which left Maj Pitambar of 3 Para critically injured. Another soldier was also injured. Sources said that Maj Pitambar was evacuated but later he succumbed to injuries. In the nightlong operation, Suhail Faisal got killed. Officials as well Hizbul Mujahideen said in their statements that Suhail Faisal was the organisation's "Divisional Commander" for south Kashmir. Both said that Suhail had worked as a militant, including "District Commander" in Rajouri Poonch areas of Jammu, since the beginning of armed insurgency in the State in 1990. He had visited his outfit's base camp and headquarters across LoC several times and last time he had returned to Valley in 2002-03.

Officials said that after the Hizb Operational Chief in Jammu and Kashmir, Shahnawaz alias Gazi Misbah-ud-din, Suhail Faisal was the Valley's most wanted militant. They said that the 46-year-old Suhail Faisal was a trained engineer who had invented the technology of making IED blasts with the use of mobile phones. They said that he was involved in a large number of attacks on security forces, Police, counter-insurgents, particularly a large number of IED blasts on Srinagar-Jammu highway. "He was a thinktank for his organisation who had not only escaped in about a hundred operations of Police and security forces but was confident to the extent that he had set up his hideout at a house just 50 yards from that of the former Chief Minister and PDP leader Mufti Mohammad Sayeed", an official said. He said that the hideout was much similar to that of Gazi Baba in Noorbagh locality of Srinagar.

Officials claimed that Suhail Faisal's death was a major setback for Hizbul Mujahideen and an equally significant achievement for Police and security forces. Reports from Bijbehara said that over 2,000 people participated in the slain militant's Namaz-e-Janazah. 
QUOTEArmy major, Hizb terrorist killed in Kashmir encounter

Mukhtar Ahmad in Srinagar | November 28, 2006 11:04 IST
Last Updated: November 28, 2006 15:52 IST

An army major and a Hizbul Mujahideen commander were killed in a nightlong encounter in south Kashmir's Bejibehara town on Tuesday morning.

Major Manish Pitambare of the 3 Para regiment was killed in the overnight gun battle.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/nov/28hizb.htm

Naresh · (This post was last modified: 12-02-2006, 11:47 PM by Naresh.)

With the EU Parliament deciding that a Plebiscite in the State of Jammu & Kashmir would be irrelvant we see the Lotas' reaction :

1. The Actual Version

[center]'No need for plebiscite in Kashmir' : Indrani Bagchi <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' />[/center]

NEW DELHI : A draft EU parliament report on Kashmir says a plebiscite in the state is unnecessary and irrelevant and hardened Indian resolve to keep its attention trained on the parlous state of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

The report, by EP member Baroness Emma Nicholson who visited India and Pakistan over the summer, raps Pakistan for its undemocratic rule over PoK. "Pakistan has consistently failed to fulfill its obligations to introduce meaningful and representative democratic structures in AJK (the Pakistani administered Kashmir)."

But the report also makes the more important point that calls for a plebiscite on the final status of J&K were "wholly out of step with the needs of the local people and thus damaging to their interests".

Pakistan has already objected to the report. According to sources, it is trying to bring about an amendment in the final report that criticises India and deletes critical references to Pakistan.

While New Delhi will not comment, the government is determined to continue its focus on the entire state of J&K. That is why the residents of Gilgit and Baltistan have been included as legitimate passengers for the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus service.

Articulating the government's approach to Kashmir, the Prime Minister's special envoy, Shyam Saran, said recently at a book launch, "It's important to avoid, even by implication, that the J&K issue involves only the Valley on our side of the LoC and the sliver of territory that is described as AJK on the other side."

Saran pointed out that while there are elected bodies in Indian Kashmir, there are no such institutions on the other side.

"If Pakistan is really serious about promoting the concept of self-governance, then it needs to take measures to create truly representative institutions on its side of the LoC, not only in PoK but in Gilgit and Baltistan."

2. The Lotastaani Version

[center]EU wants Indo-Pak water issue resolved[/center]

WASHINGTON : The European Parliament (EP) has urged India and Pakistan to resolve the crucial riparian issue affecting the headwaters and the use of the rivers flowing through Jammu and Kashmir as swiftly as possible while giving âkey priorityâ to the agricultural, fishing, livestock and human water requirements of the local people.

In a draft report on Jammu and Kashmir of which Daily Times has obtained a copy, the EP congratulated India and Pakistan on the peace moves currently under way. It called on the EU and the international community to support the India-Pakistan bilateral talks, with the aim of generating a prosperous future for Kashmiris. Welcoming the CBMs initiated by India and Pakistan, it noted that they were achieving a âmoderate degreeâ of success. Ordinary Kashmiris were also becoming intimately involved in the modalities of the peace process, it noted.

The report âregretsâ that Pakistan has âconsistently failed to fulfil its obligations to introduce meaningful and representative democratic structures in AJK,â while taking notice of the âcontinuing absence of Kashmiri representation in the Pakistani National Assemblyâ.

It said that âAJK is governed through the Ministry of Kashmir Affairs in Islamabad, and Pakistan officials dominate the Kashmir Councilâ. The report said it âabhorsâ the provision in the 1974 Interim Constitution, which forbids any political activity that is not in accordance with the doctrine of Jammu and Kashmir as part of Pakistan, and obliges any candidate for a parliamentary seat in AJK to sign a declaration of loyalty to that effect. The report is âconcerned that the Gilgit-Baltistan region enjoys no form of democratic representation whatsoeverâ.

The EP report said that the October 2005 earthquake had an immense impact on the lives of the people on both sides of the political divide, and the âvast humanitarian situation has completely changed the political conditions on the ground in Azad Kashmirâ. It called for the dismantling of long-standing refugee camps and proper attention for their occupantsâ protection.

The report stressed that the earthquake struck a region already weakened by 60 years of festering conflict, one which was in âthe eye of the storm of the war against terrorismâ. The EP said it was âappalled that the already minimal basic ârightsâ enjoyed by Pakistani Kashmiris before the earthquake have been decimatedâ.

The report âstrongly emphasisesâ that continuing calls for a plebiscite on the final status of Jammu and Kashmir are âwholly out of stepâ with the needs of the local people. The report noted that âeven without the earthquake, any plebiscite would have been meaningless without a change in policy from Islamabadâ. The report âdeplores human rights violations by the armed forces of Indiaâ. khalid hasan <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' />

Proves the Old Mumbai-Marathi Saying : Makad Mantosâ¦. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' />

12-02-2006, 09:55 PM

In Islam, do they subract number of Huris award when Muslim lies. What is the punishment?
khalid hasan is not only liar but a person with no professional ethics. What a shame?

Naresh · 12-02-2006, 11:46 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Dec 2 2006, 09:55 PM)In Islam, do they subract number of Huris award when Muslim lies. What is the punishment?
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When Pakistanis Lie, they are rewarded with Madam Jalebi of PISS <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devilsmiley.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='devilsmiley.gif' />

QUOTE(Mudy @ Dec 2 2006, 09:55 PM)
khalid hasan is not only liar but a person with no professional ethics. What a shame?
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Mudy Ji : Sialkoti Khalid Hasan is a wise old bird.

He has not lied per se.

The EU Parliamentary Draft Report may also delve on the River Water Sharing â the Baglihar Issue is already with the World Bank Arbitrator â but then the Water Sharing and other Issues are side issues whilst the main issue is the irrelevance of the Plebiscite in the State of Jammu & Kashmir.

All KH has done is to write Six Paragraphs about the side issues and mention the main issue at the end of the Article hoping that not many Lotastaanis would read it and start committing Islamic Harakiri all over Lotastaan.

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12-03-2006, 12:09 AM

QUOTEThe report âdeplores human rights violations by the armed forces of Indiaâ. khalid hasan 
My concern on this statement, it was no where in original statement.

Naresh · 12-03-2006, 01:41 AM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Dec 3 2006, 12:09 AM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEThe report âdeplores human rights violations by the armed forces of Indiaâ. khalid hasan 
My concern on this statement, it was no where in original statement.
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Mudy Ji :

The Actual Version is really the Indian Version.

We shall have to await the full Draft Report to see "what is what" in it.

The Indian Version states :

QUOTEPakistan has already objected to the report. According to sources, it is trying to bring about an amendment in the final report that criticises India and deletes critical references to Pakistan. 

As such it might just be possible for the Final Report to keep the "Plebiscite" wording intact and make the statement about Human Rights Violations to save Pakistan's Ech & Dee.

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