Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan 2

[ramana]

No. Read the report again. When jihadis fire they fire on them. When TSPA fires they dont retaliate. Its a dipolmatic way to ensure that TSP is isolated. Meanwhile retaliation against jihadis continues.

[Naresh]

<b>ramana Ji :</b>

<b><span style='color:green'>Green, Yellow, Blue or Red?</span></b>

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[ramana]

Is this the right thread Nareshji?

[Naresh]

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<b>ramana Ji :</b>

Ain't no specific tread - Ghar Ki Baat Hai!

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[ramana]

In that case saffron from Indian flag!

[Naresh]

<b>ramana Ji :</b>

Thousand Apologies - have got it horribly wrong as mistook took place!

Ain’t no Kesar in BHAM

Let’s leave it for now.

Apologies Again!

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[Guest]

<b>Indian widow 'harassed' in Pak returns to Mumbai</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->She also apologised in a personal capacity to Pakistanis for the death of four Pakistani nationals in Indian jails. "I deeply apologise for the pain caused by India. You got back (the bodies of four Pakistani prisoners) and I apologise for that," she told reporters in Lahore.

Earlier, Ayesha had vowed to return home only after local authorities took action against her in-laws. Though some of her husband's kin were arrested, they were later released on bail. <b>For the past few weeks, Ayesha had been living with a cleric associated with the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam.</b>

<b>Ayesha's marriage to Lahore-based stockbroker Mumtaz Khalid came to the limelight because the couple had a protracted courtship of six years after meeting in an Internet chat-room in 2000. They married on the web in 2006 and Asha converted to Islam before coming to Pakistan a year later</b>.

Khalid, who worked in the Lahore stock exchange, died recently at the age of only 30. After his death, Ayesha, who is two months' pregnant, registered a FIR against her in-laws in which she accused them of harassing and torturing her.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
She should stay there and fight for widows right in Islamic nation, now she will join FOSA and will bash Hindus

[Naresh]

[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>When the going in Pakistan gets tough, its leaders… travel - Nirupama Subramanian</span></b>[/center]

<b><i>People wonder why foreign locales for taking decision</i></b>

<b>ISLAMABAD : When they need to talk, Pakistani leaders head to Dubai. Or London. But the people of Pakistan are beginning to ask why their leaders must fly to foreign venues for making crucial decisions regarding the future of the country.</b>

The latest in the foreign locales saga took place in Dubai on Wednesday, where Pakistan People’s Party co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari, the leader behind the throne, summoned an “urgent” party meeting.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani had to jet in to the emirate from Malaysia, where he was attending the D-8 developing Muslim nations conference. Three Cabinet Ministers and the party spokesman flew out from Pakistan. Mr. Zardari had already arrived in Dubai via Turkey and Greece.

<b>Coalition’s future</b>

The Dubai meeting was reportedly summoned to discuss the future of the PPP’s coalition with the Pakistan Muslim League (N) which withdrew from the Cabinet in May due to differences over the judges’ issue.

The PPP has not filled the vacant Cabinet slots yet, saying it will wait for the PML (N) to come back. At the moment, PPP Ministers hold additional charge of the vacated portfolios. But the question being asked is why should one-third of the Cabinet fly to an expensive foreign city for something that should have been discussed right here in Pakistan.

<b>Comparisons with India</b>

One columnist in the daily Tribune asked if anyone had heard of Sonia Gandhi summoning her party members to Kathmandu or Mauritius for a conference, or of British Prime Minister Gordon Brown summoning his Cabinet to Bonn or Paris.

“Would it not have been better if instead of the PPP’s battalion travelling all the way to Dubai, God knows at whose expenditure, [Mr. Zardari] himself should have come over for a day or so to Islamabad for the purpose, for that would have been far more economical,” the wrote.

Next, Mr. Zardari is to fly to London, where PML(N) leader Nawaz Sharif is spending some time with his wife who is recovering from a surgery. The word is that the two leaders “may” meet in the British capital to talk about the future of their coalition.

If they do, it will not be their first rendezvous in that pleasant city. London was the venue for a previous round of talks between the two leaders on the vexed question of restoring the judges sacked by President Pervez Musharraf — their respective teams brainstormed at Starbucks — after they failed to reach agreement at an earlier meeting in Dubai.

“The present practice of our top leaders to hold meetings abroad on domestic issues is astonishing,” wrote Lt. Gen (retd.) Talat Masood in the Daily Times. “Apart from the expense involved for a poor country like Pakistan, it is demeaning and bizarre. This indirectly is a reflection of the scant interest that our leaders have in the affairs of the state”.

<b>Leaders’ reasons</b>

Mr. Zardari’s excuse is that he needs to be with his children living in Dubai every now and then.

But in part at least, the need to hold meetings abroad appears to be a hangover from the days of exile politics, when both Benazir Bhutto, the slain leader of the PPP, and Mr. Sharif were living abroad, the first in self-exile, and the second banished from his country.

It was during this time that the two leaders softened towards each other enough for a rapprochement, leading to the “Charter of Democracy”, their agreement to work together for democratic rule, in May 2006. Even President Musharraf had to travel to Abu Dhabi for negotiations with Ms. Bhutto in July 2007, their talks eventually facilitating her return to Pakistan three months later.

But with the exiled leadership back and elected to power, their constant urge to head out in order to discuss political issues has raised concerns, especially at a time the country is facing serious problems.

On Thursday, Pakistan woke up to the news that Taliban had surrounded a police station in the North-West Frontier Province, they were harassing cable operators in another part of the province asking them to shut down operations, and that at least 32 children have gone missing in Swat, suspected to have been kidnapped, again by Taliban militants.

They also woke up to pictures of their Prime Minister in Dubai along with Mr. Zardari, his three children, Bilawal, Bhaktawar and Asifa, and the other PPP members summoned to the meeting..

<b>It led the Tribune to comment that Pakistan had the “unique distinction” of being the only nation with four capitals: “Washington first”, a reference to U.S. influence over the country. “And then London, Dubai and finally Islamabad”.</b>

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[Naresh]

<b>Soaring trade deficit and sliding rupee</b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->For decades, Pakistan’s balance of trade remained negative, though not as high as now. In 1996-97, with the PPP in power, it touched $ 3.52 billion; <b>today it is a staggering $20.75 billion. This deficit is based on imports of $39.97 billion and exports of $19.22 billion</b> recorded by the Federal Bureau of Statistics (FBS) in 2007-08 but, as always, the export figure will be revised downward and the deficit could be six times of its 1996-97 size.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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[Shambhu]

Read in the Baltimore Sun that the Taliban have taken control of the Ziarat marble mine in TWIRP. Mine was lying dormant because of the dispute b/w 2 tribes who wanted to run it. Talibs come in, say Mehsood tribe will be owner, and give us a fee for every truck of marble you take out and now giddyap! Mehsood guy interviewed was not too happy, but he said "at least mine is running".

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Coming soon to every town in Pak: a marble block with Qu'ranic (Peace Be Upon Its Apostrophes) inscriptions. For chopping off hands and feet. Ahl-e-llujah!!
Wa fizool barak'tool fa' bismil qifayyat.

[acharya]

http://www.forumpakistan.com/world-dons-...10217.html

[acharya]

<b> The Karachi Attacks For Kabul By Indian intelligence Services RAW and CIA
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http://www.daily.pk/politics/politicalnews...aw-and-cia.html

Tuesday, 08 July 2008 13:01 www.daily.pk
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pakistani government officials are investigating the possibility that today’s trail of seven bombings in Karachi was retaliation for the attack in Kabul around ten hours earlier that almost wiped out India’s embassy in the Afghan capital.
India suffered important casualties in Kabul today. According to one report, the dead include Brigadier R. Mehta, the military attaché, and V. Venkat Rao, an Indian Foreign Service officer who was the Press Councilor and two Indian paramilitary troopers guarding the embassy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[ramana]

I know it is to get an idea of what goes in a Paki mind but to post it here is to give credence to the guy's fevered imagination. So I would post a link and excerpt only.

[Guest]

I want to see FOSA with poster again in San Francisco "Terrrorist State of India are killing peace loving Pakistani"
15 Aug is coming, they may fly planes with slogan.

[Guest]

<b>Pakistani Investors Stone Karachi Exchange as Stocks Plunge </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->July 17 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistan investors stormed out of the Karachi Stock Exchange, smashed windows and cursed regulators after the benchmark index fell for a 15th day, the worst losing streak in at least 18 years.

``I have lost my life savings in the last 15 days and no one in the government or regulators came to help us,'' said Imran Inayat, 45, a protester and a former banker who retired early and said he lost 300,000 rupees ($4,175) on the market.

Police surrounded the exchange after hundreds of investors stoned the building and shouted anti-government slogans. They directed their ire at the government and Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan, which this week removed a 1 percent daily limit on price declines. The measure was aimed at halting a slide that wiped out $30 billion of Pakistan's market value in three months, threatening to undo a 14-fold rally since 2001.
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[Shambhu]

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Bismillah! No need to do the Haj! The Shaitan can be stoned right here in Karachi! In this era of rising fuel prices, who has the green to go to Al-Haram Sharif Al-Makkah to do the stoning, I ask you.

[Guest]

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[Naresh]

<b>Currency notes were printed in bulk, SBP governor tells Cabinet</b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->State Bank Governor briefed the Cabinet about economic situation, with particular reference to the impact of the soaring oil prices and international food inflation.

She said that disciplinary measures would have to be taken to bring down inflation in the country. <b>She lamented that currency notes were printed in bulks to meet the deficit by the previous government, which had adverse impact on economy, besides increase in inflation.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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[Naresh]

[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Pakistan’s troubles demand unity</span></b> <!--emo&tupid--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pakee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pakee.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/center]

<b>Pakistan is rising rapidly up the global risk register. The hopes generated by the elections of February 18, when Pakistanis rejected religious extremists’ parties, are evaporating.</b> The country, a nuclear power, and its 165m people are beset by a deepening political and economic crisis, of which <b>Thursday’s riot at the stock exchange</b> is but a small manifestation. Yet elected politicians seem unwilling or unable to do anything about it.

In some respects, the politicians have been unlucky. It is not their fault that they took over the reins of power just as global food and energy prices were exploding. Subsidies on fuel and food – increased by General Pervez Musharraf, the country’s military ruler – made matters worse, forcing the government to choose between two unpalatable alternatives, letting prices rip or watching government finances spiral out of control. At the moment, they have the worst of all worlds: inflation of 12 per cent and accelerating, and a budget deficit already equal to 7 per cent of gross domestic product.


It would be serious enough if this were the only issue the government has to confront. But developments in Pakistan’s lawless tribal areas bordering Afghanistan are heightening tensions with its neighbours, and preoccupying the US and its Nato partners. Pakistan’s army appears to have resumed confrontation with religious militants in these areas, but the extremists have taken advantage of recent ceasefires to launch bolder incursions into Afghanistan. These have already led to hot pursuit missions over the border into Pakistan, which, if they continue and intensify, can only strengthen religious extremists inside the country.

The outside world can help Pakistan with finance for development. Yet, the solutions really lie at home. There has been a worrying vacuum at the centre, which has meant that the government has hardly moved to address these gathering problems. The reason has been that the heads of the main political parties, Asif Ali Zardari and Nawaz Sharif, have failed to set aside their personal rivalries and thirst for power to govern together to help manage the crisis.

Fortunately, so far, the head of the army, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, has shown no desire to step in to “solve” the gathering problems.

Indeed, military government provides no real answer, as recent history shows. But unless the party leaders come together for the sake of their country, Pakistan’s elected party leaders may find that the crisis consumes them too.

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[Naresh]

<b>1. Pakistan opens doors for imports from India: trade policy 2008-09 announced</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD (July 19 2008) : Commerce Minister Ahmad Mukhtar on Friday announced Trade Policy 2008-09 with an export target of $22.10 billion envisaging an export growth rate of 15 percent - the same rate achieved in 2007-08. He did not mention any import targets for the current fiscal year but top officials in the ministry are speculating a figure of nearly $40 billion which means a trade deficit of around $17.9 billion.

-- Export target set at $22.1bn
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<b>2. Mukhtar defends increased trade with New Delhi</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD (July 19 2008) : Commerce Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar on Friday defended measures of allowing imports of diesel and fuel oil and other items from India saying that Pakistan should come out of 'India-phobia' as the neighbouring country is becoming a very good trading partner of the country.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<b>3. Positive list expanded: import of diesel, fuel oil allowed</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD (July 19 2008) : The commerce minister during his speech unveiling the trade policy for 2008-09 announced a unilateral expansion of the positive list of tradable items from India without any reciprocity from India on the cards. Also allowed are imports of diesel and fuel oil from India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<b>4. Officials based at foreign missions involved in policy?</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD (July 19 2008) : The commerce ministry is said to have involved some officials from Pakistani embassies in various countries to prepare a trade policy which appears to be strongly tilted towards India's trade and industry, official sources told Business Recorder.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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