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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan 2
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Musharraf, during his rule, had also allowed the US drones to use the Pakistani airspace for intelligence sharing besides permitting the American intelligence agencies, the CIA and the FBI, to recruit their agents in the tribal belt of Pakistan, he said<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What this guy is talking? I think he is trying to paint Mr.Horrible picture of Mushy and preparing new bride picture of Paki Army in barracks.

Whole world knows, drones are stationed inside Pakistan. And US is paying billions to use one or two base.
<b>Pakistani Security Forces Kill 30 Insurgents Near Afghan Border </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sept. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistani security forces, supported by helicopter gun ships and artillery, battled insurgents near the Afghan border yesterday, killing 30, the military said.

Fighting took place near the village of Loe Sam in the Bajaur tribal region, spokesman Major Murad Khan said by telephone from the garrison city of Rawalpindi. ``Heavy casualties were inflicted on militants and the operation continues,'' he said.
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WTF??
Pakistan troop fire turns back U.S. helicopters
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Firing by Pakistani troops forced two U.S. military helicopters to turn back to Afghanistan after they crossed into Pakistani territory early on Monday, Pakistani security officials said.

The incident took place near Angor Adda, a village in the tribal region of South Waziristan where U.S. commandos in helicopters raided a suspected al Qaeda and Taliban camp earlier this month.

"The U.S. choppers came into Pakistan by just 100 to 150 meters at Angor Adda. Even then our troops did not spare them, opened fire on them and they turned away," said one security official.

The U.S. and Pakistani military both denied that account, but Angor Adda villagers and officials supported it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nothing, Paki Army is trying to tell rest of Paki we still are manly. I think it is Paki Army makeover, they had small window before next coup to be acceptable to local junta. They are doing pretty good job, Junta is screaming in bloggosphere that Paki Army is machoo, they are hitting back US.
<b>Crisis deepens as India blocks Chenab flow </b> <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>PAKISTAN: No odds can deter Pakistan Army: Kayani </b>
Monday, 15 Sep, 2008 | 22:40 PST
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Islamabad, Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani has said that it is the manifestation of the Pakistan Army’s resolve that no odds can deter it from pursuing its obligations towards national defence. He made these remarks during his visit to forward posts on the Line of Actual Contact and Line of Control in Northern Areas, according to a press release issued by the ISPR here on Monday. He was accompanied by Corps Commander Lieutenant General Mohsin Kamal. <b>General Kayani met troops at various locations deployed at Siachen,the world’s highest battlefield, and surrounding areas on the Line of Actual Contact. </b>He paid tributes to troops who were facing rigours of terrain and inhospitable weather in order to safeguard the frontiers of the country. The army chief lauded the high state of morale of the troops.
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Abt the closure of the Chenab, what's going on? Did we really close the flow of water? Or is this typical paki moaning abt nothing?

Has any reason given behind why this was done?
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Monday, 15 Sep, 2008 | 22:40 PST
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Islamabad, Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani has said that it is the manifestation of the Pakistan Army’s resolve that no odds can deter it from pursuing its obligations towards national defence. He made these remarks during his visit to forward posts on the Line of Actual Contact and Line of Control in Northern Areas, according to a press release issued by the ISPR here on Monday. He was accompanied by Corps Commander Lieutenant General Mohsin Kamal. <b>General Kayani met troops at various locations deployed at Siachen,the world’s highest battlefield, and surrounding areas on the Line of Actual Contact. </b>He paid tributes to troops who were facing rigours of terrain and inhospitable weather in order to safeguard the frontiers of the country. The army chief lauded the high state of morale of the troops.
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Once US attacks TSP, he is making sure that he will/can attack India. That was always their back up plan.
Pakistan Is the Problem
And Barack Obama seems to be the only candidate willing to face it.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, Sept. 15, 2008, at 12:04 PM ET

http://www.slate.com/id/2200134/
surely at least the utterances of Obama on US policy towards Pakistan are very encouraging. In contrast to the McCain's status quo policy.
To clarify the Reuters piece (Viren's post)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080916/ap_on_...6CNOItuIhSs0NUE

<b>Pakistan orders troops to open fire if US raids </b>
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan's military has ordered its forces to open fire if U.S. troops launch another air or ground raid across the Afghan border, an army spokesman said Tuesday.

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The orders, which come in response to a highly unusual Sept. 3 ground attack by U.S. commandos, are certain to heighten tensions between Washington and a key ally against terrorism. Although the ground attack was rare, there have been repeated reports of U.S. drone aircraft striking militant targets, most recently on Sept. 12.

Pakistani officials warn that stepped-up cross-border raids will accomplish little while fueling violent religious extremism in nuclear-armed Pakistan. Some complain that the country is a scapegoat for the failure to stabilize Afghanistan.

Pakistan's civilian leaders, who have taken a hard line against Islamic militants since forcing Pervez Musharraf to resign as president last month, have insisted that Pakistan must resolve the dispute with Washington through diplomatic channels.

In Washington, a Pentagon spokesman said Pakistan would "correct the record" on the latest statement.

"We enjoy good cooperation with Pakistan along the border," said the spokesman, Bryan Whitman. "Pakistan is an ally in the global war on terror."

However, army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas told The Associated Press that after U.S. helicopters ferried troops into a militant stronghold in the South Waziristan tribal region, the military told field commanders to prevent any similar raids.

"The orders are clear," Abbas said in an interview. "In case it happens again in this form, that there is a very significant detection, which is very definite, no ambiguity, across the border, on ground or in the air: open fire."

U.S. military commanders accuse Islamabad of doing too little to prevent the Taliban and other militant groups from recruiting, training and resupplying in Pakistan's wild tribal belt.

Pakistan acknowledges the presence of al-Qaida fugitives and its difficulties in preventing militants from seeping through the mountainous border into Afghanistan.

However, it insists it is doing what it can and paying a heavy price, pointing to its deployment of more then 100,000 troops in its increasingly restive northwest and a wave of suicide bombings across the country.

After talks Tuesday with British officials in London, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said he did not "think there will be any more" cross-border raids by the U.S. He declined to comment on the order to use lethal force against American troops.

Instead, he and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown issued a joint statement saying Afghanistan and Pakistan should lead the efforts to battle border militancy. The joint statement left out any mention of the United States.

American officials have confirmed their forces carried out the Sept. 3 raid near the town of Angoor Ada but given few details of what happened.

Abbas said that Pakistan's military had asked for an explanation but received only a "half-page" of "very vague" information that failed to identify the intended target.

Pakistani officials have said the raid killed about 15 people, and Abbas said they all appeared to be civilians.

"These were truck drivers, local traders and their families," he said.

How to reverse a surge in Taliban violence in Afghanistan has become a major issue in the U.S. presidential campaign and refocused attention on the porous border with Pakistan.

Pakistan's military has won American praise for a six-week offensive against militants in the Bajur tribal region that officials here say has killed 700 suspected insurgents and about 40 troops. Troops backed by warplanes killed eight more alleged militants Tuesday, officials said.

In the same timeframe, there has been a surge in missile strikes apparently carried out by unmanned U.S. drones. Such attacks killed at least two senior al-Qaida commanders earlier this year.

Abbas did not say when exactly the orders for Pakistani troops to open fire to prevent cross-border raids by U.S. troops were issued. He wouldn't discuss whether Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who replaced Musharraf as army chief last year, personally took the decision or if the orders had been discussed with American officials.

The spokesman also played down suggestions that the instructions had been put into practice before dawn on Monday, when U.S. helicopters reportedly landed near Angoor Ada only to fly away after troops fired warning shots.

Abbas insisted no foreign troops had crossed the border and that "trigger-happy tribesmen" had fired the shots. Pakistani troops based nearby fired flares to see what was going on, he said.

The U.S. military in Afghanistan said none of its troops were involved.

In a rare public statement last week, Kayani said Pakistan's sovereignty would be defended "at all cost." Abbas said Pakistani officials had to consider public opinion, which is skeptical of American goals in the region and harbors sympathy for rebels fighting in the name of Islam.

"Please look at the public reaction to this kind of adventure or incursion," Abbas said. "The army is also an extension of the public and you can only satisfy the public when you match your words with your actions."

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NSN: The Pakistan government spokesman said: "We shall protect terrorists if they decide to live in Pakistan. How will we get any money if we kill off these terrorist brothers? Who will give us our blackmail money? Forget blackmail, no one will even send us an e-mail. The world cares about us because of our beloved terrorists. Remember, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, and yet another man's goose that lays golden eggs. They are our kamadhenoo, as the kaafirs say."
from some fora
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Due to continuous economic and political instability in Pakistan, I am planning to relocate myself to some foreign country where there is economic and political stability and somehow reasonable ethical values as well. At present, in Pakistan there is very high rate of inflation and my monthly salary is very low.<b> Please suggest a suitable foreign country for me where I could live in somehow better condition and where I could get some entry-level work to meet my subsistence</b>. My details are:

Name: Salman Rahat Ahmed
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This guy need help.
My suggestion is Balochistan.

[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>PAKISTAN ESCHEWS NON-VEGETARIANISM AND EMBRACES VEGETARIANISM</span></b>[/center]

[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>PART I</span></b>[/center]

[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>PART II</span></b>[/center]

Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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From # 253

Pakistanis need to understand that in the US scheme of things, the degradation of the army is a key plank in the objective to rid Pakistan of its nuclear capability. Has the time come to eat grass? <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<b>Pakistan Says Military Offensive in Bajaur Kills 700 Militants </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistan's security forces killed more than 700 militants since starting an offensive in the Bajaur tribal region bordering Afghanistan about six weeks ago, the military said.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
official story.

[center] <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo--><b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Dollar scarcity threatens banks</span></b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/center]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>KARACHI, Sept 17 : The shortage of US dollars in the inter-bank market has led the rupee to fall to a record low, creating fears that banks might not be able to honour their foreign commitments.

It means that a threat of default is looming.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
have ISI folks not yet learnt to xerox the dollar notes like INR?
Editorial: Reform <b>ISI? Not like this</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs<b>, Mr Richard Boucher, said Tuesday that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) needed to be reformed. He did not point to any specific flaw in the conduct of the ISI but the general impression is that his remark sprang from a deep US suspicion that the ISI “retained links to the Taliban”.</b>

The initial reaction against the suggestion has been negative in the Pakistani media, and it was of a piece with the reaction that met Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani’s attempt in July to place the ISI under the control of the Interior Ministry.

The American press had charged earlier that the ISI was allegedly using the privileged information it had about American attacks against the Afghan Taliban to forewarn the latter. In fact, the American government and most Western governments believe that a recent suicide-bombing at the Indian embassy in Kabul was carried out by the ISI. In India, the case is even worse; the ISI is blamed for anything violent that happens inside India which the Indian government cannot explain.
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<b>Six killed in Waziristan drone attack</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD: A United States missile strike on a compound used by militants in South Waziristan killed at least six people and wounded three others on Wednesday evening, officials said.

The attack came hours after US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Michael Mullen told Pakistani leaders that America respects Pakistan’s sovereignty, amid a mounting tension over cross-border strikes by the US.

<b>Two intelligence officials told The Associated Press that missiles hit the compound used by Taliban and militant organisation Hizb-e-Islami.</b>
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<b>India deploys fighter jets in Kashmir</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The move aims at improving the border management, however analysts told Reuters the move was aimed at Pakistan after relations between the two rivals soured in recent months.

<b>“This forward movement is part of a deterrence for Pakistan, and to tell them if they fish in troubled waters in Kashmir, India would be ready,” defence analyst Major General Ashok Mehta said.</b> A four-year-old peace process between the two countries has virtually stalled, initially because of political turmoil in Pakistan and more recently after a string of bombings in India, and at the Indian embassy in Kabul.

<b>India blamed Pakistan for the Kabul attack in July – a charge Islamabad denied — saying it had put the peace process in “distress”.</b>

Under these circumstances, analysts say, the deployment of six Russian-made Sukhoi-30 jets capable of carrying nuclear warheads in Kashmir was a military move aimed at Pakistan. India’s Western Air Command commander Air Marshal PK Barbora was quoted by the Hindustan Times as saying the deployment was “temporary”.
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