<!--QuoteBegin-ravish+Nov 17 2008, 04:51 PM-->QUOTE(ravish @ Nov 17 2008, 04:51 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->We Hindus of India[right][snapback]90299[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->There is no 'we'.
There are the Hindus. And then there is you.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Said ravish: My submission is very simple. Let us wait for the final result before trying to analyze the event even before the completion of the investigation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's not your submission, ravish. That was mine (and many another Hindu's).
From my
post 10:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ravish,
I've asked you once to provide supporting evidence for your opinions. Will have to qualify that, I see: it means that in this case, instead of pasting news reports containing no more than allegations, you post press releases of actual verdicts by the (non-Bannerjee-type) courts/representatives.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->And I repeated it several times, like with "It ain't a terrorist organisation until it is shown to have *committed* terrorism: Indian Express is shooting itself in the foot by racing to predecided conclusions before the verdict is out." Christoislamaniac terrorism is known, evidenced everywhere and in all of its history. But there's no terrorism by Hindus anywhere nor in history except the ones the psecular christoislamicommunistas are trying to manufacture.
But now the twat has the gall to lecture everyone else - the very people who had been telling Ravish to stop jumping to his communistic conclusions and to wait for an untampered verdict - that *we* have to take his "sudden inspirational advice" and wait for the verdict.
Ravish's tactics remind me of both the christomedia and the christo/christoconditioned/christobribed ATS in Maharashtra. Let me 'splain.
<b>Why ravish is like the christomedia:</b>
The christomedia will not provide the sources for its absurd quotes (that regularly get
contradicted by facts) against the Hindus accused of alleged Hindoo terrorism, and neither will ravish provide the source for his lame articles. Probably because he knows that IF naturally distrusts
christo-owned and christo-funded media like HT, TOI, IE, CNN-IBN, NDTV, Deccan Chronicle, The Chindu, etcetera.
<b>Why ravish is like the ATS of Maharashtra</b> - same behaviour of jumping pleas/swapping arguments when revelations go against intended results:
The ATS of MR does narc tests on the Hindus accused of terrorism since it knows it has <i>No real evidence against them whatsoever</i> and thought that by cheating this way, the ATS could get the confessions the media said it got. But then the media had to admit that the ATS had to admit that there were no confessions. When the ATS still came up empty, it played the Sorest Loser game, saying that Sadhvi must have beaten the narc tests 'because of her Yoga' and Purohit beat the tests 'because of he's a trained army man'.
Ravish behaves in the same way:
(1) When Hindus were accused of raping a nun in Orissa, ravish talked about it as if it had really happened before the thing even went to court. His post discussed the purported event as reality without waiting for any verdict. Or, I should rather say, the rape Non-Event, as even the nun is not willing to go to court on this one apparently, while it seems she does not find any difficulty talking about it over and over again in the media:
Radha Rajan: "And another thing - if the 'raped' nun refuses to return to Orissa, then on what basis has the orissa police arrested 7 persons for her rape? Who told them they were rapists?" (Also relevant, a comment at
this page.)
So in the alleged 'rape' case, ravish is already on the anti-Hindu, pro-christo side without bothering to wait for evidence. He auto-assumed Hindus' guilt and auto-assumed the hyper dubious christo nun was telling the truth.
(2) And ravish repeated the same pattern in this manufactured case of "Hindoo Terrorism":
When Hindus had only been arrested on mere motivated allegations - allegations that even back then had no supporting evidence, and after all this 'investigation'/interrogation/torturing still has no supporting evidence -
ravish started talking in the 2009 Poll thread about how in the coming elections the "Indian populace" might have to to take "Hindoo terrorism" into account as well:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Another disturbing factor is the possible emergence of Hindu terrorist groups as a direct reaction to the activities of the Islamic terrorists.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Once again, ravish - without waiting for any verdict - was predictably seen considering the libel against Hindus after blindly swallowing the lies fed by the parasitical christomedia in India.
Then, when posts on IF from various news sources (all referenced in this thread) show how
- TOI had to admit in the same article heralding Purohit's confession that the ATS spokesperson said there was no confession
- there was no evidence against Purohit, Upadhyay or Sadhvi - not even anything that could be obtained from dubious narct tests nor from torture (all three and/or their family members talked about how they were tortured by the ATS)
- the army said Purohit couldn't have obtained any of the materials he's accused of having obtained.
- islamania admits, under the narc tests meant to trip Hindus, to have committed the Malegoan and Samjhauta blasts
- since the army said Purohit could never have procured the RDX from the army's supply, and since some islamaniac(s) of SIMI confessed to everything, the ATS (or media) manufactured the story that Purohit must have got it from the SIMI terrorists instead. All while magically getting them to work for him and for Hindutva as well (apparently by duping them into thinking that Hindutva=islam <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->; now why didn't I think of that tactic for reconversion before). The reason the ATS needs to tie Purohit to SIMI? Well, no one else in the country would have access to these particular Materials That Go Boom, certainly not in such quantities as they need Purohit to have got his hands on. Only the army or islamaniacs. I'd have been surprised the ATS didn't ask Pukestan to oblige by having them mail Purohit the RDX. But ATS needs to hit two birds with one stone: the twin fictions that "there should be no Indian islami terrorism, and that it must actually be Hindoo Terrorism because the <i>proven</i> Indian islamiterrorists must have been working for Hindoo terrorism. Making it Hindoo-only Terrorism."
^ So after such numerous (by no means complete set of) inconsistencies were revealed in the story spun by the anti-Hindu side, all of a sudden ravish 'remembers' to advise the very same people who first told <i>him</i> to wait for the court's verdict, that "we should wait for a verdict" instead, before we can say that the media, the ATS and the govt is seriously motivated and lying outright.
<b>But actually, No, I don't need to wait for a verdict anymore,</b> ravish. Know why? <b>Because:</b>
(1) Not only has the christogovt got the christomedia and the christo/christo-conditioned/christo-bribed ATS in its pockets, it then pulled a masterstroke and made the Indian army itself a suspect in this case when the army refused to read from the screenplay prepared in advance. Meaning, the viewership is conditioned to instantly disregard army's views ('unobjective') where these contradict the christogovt's line. The christomedia naturally did its prescribed role in achieving this by furthering the story arc of how the Indian army's input is no longer independent but involved and hence biased.
(2) Furthermore, the christogovt has shown how it also has the ability to change members of the judiciary at will to procure the sentences it wants pronounced:
- They got helpful idiot and railways dude Laloo to appoint an illegal committee headed by bribeable Justice Bannerji on the Godhra riots
- <b>Christian body in Orissa moves court for change of judge</b>
http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20081108/812/t...oves-court.html
- <b>Kerala Christian appointed Chief Justice (CJ) to the Patna (Bihar High Court).</b>
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2008/11/im...ef-justice.html
With such blatant puppeteering by the christogovt, Shamu could not help wondering
"Was the judge deliberately on leave?" after reading the Sify news that
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<b>'Police is torturing Purohit'</b>
[...]
In an application filed before the chief judicial magistrate's court here, the army official's father-in-law Vilas Dalvi alleged that Purohit's finger was broken during interrogation and that he had injury marks all over his body due to the torture he had to endure.
[...]
The serving army officer [...] is in police custody till November 15.
[...]
The application filed is likely to come up for hearing on November 15 since the judge is presently on leave.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
(3) And the christogovt bypassed the Parliament entirely on the nuke steal, I mean nuke deal. Shows how christoterrorist govt knows how to get away with ignoring the Parliament whenever it needs to.
(4) And like Shamu remarked earlier in this thread, the KKKongress also conveniently appointed a person entirely incapable of acting out of anything but self-interest to the post of Indian president as well. Because Abdul Kalam was just horrendously righteous and would just be too much in the way for the KKKongress's christoterrrorist plans.
There you have it. One ideology practically co-opting or else overriding every body of law and order/governance in India.
<i>Exactly like in modern South Korea.
Exactly like in Ancient Rome.</i>
Christogovt + christomedia = rule by christoterror
One last example of typical <i>ravishism</i>. *Try* following the ravish-logic on this one, it's really funny:
Post 42 in this thread
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Moreover , <b>the Hindus constitute more than 85 % of the Indian population today and it can be safely presumed that almost the same ratio must be there among the journalists of the Print and Electronic media.</b> If despite such a massive presence, the entire media in India stands hijacked by a particular community or political outfit detrimental to the Hindu population of India than it is certainly a terminal case.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Let's forget that ravish' stats on India's Hindu population is wrong ("more than 85%").
The full brightness of his lightbulb really comes through when he argues that
"the Hindus constitute more than 85 % of the Indian population today and it can be <b>safely presumed</b> that almost the same ratio must be there among the journalists of the Print and Electronic media."
Oh then, ravish will not be able to contemplate <b>the fact</b> that
next to the govt, the church is the largest owner of land in India. Yet christoterrorists are only 6% in India.
Oh dear. Ravish's brain can't handle that one. It's emitting smoke. Fire extinguisher.
Here, some easier examples, then:
By the same logic, Indians - being 1/6th of the world population must own 1/6th of the world's landmass. Not.
By the same logic, medieval women in christoEurope can be 'safely presumed' to have had a proportional say in politics, society and christoreligion/church - proportional to their presence in the European population of that time. Not.
So then Nazi Germany could not have posed any threat to Europe since the population of non-Germans was greater than Germans. Not.
And the 3% artistocrats in christoterrorised France could not have ruled over the
97% of the non-aristocratic population all the way until the revolt of 1789, since we can 'safely presume' it "must have" been the other way around going by numbers. Not.
Stop presuming ravish. You've been presuming Hindu guilt all along. You've been presuming christian innocence all along.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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