<!--QuoteBegin-Shambhu+Nov 15 2007, 08:53 AM-->QUOTE(Shambhu @ Nov 15 2007, 08:53 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->This may or may not be distorted history, the books are still to come out. But it seems like a big project, worth keeping an eye on:
www.epictrilogy.com/
[right][snapback]75258[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Pasting the following from the person who's rewriting the epics (he's only rewriting stuff, because he has no imagination of his own nor can he do a proper retelling that keeps to the spirit of the original either):
http://www.epictrilogy.com/rmy
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The epic tale of Prince Rama has been so heavily mythologized that the actual story has been nearly lost. If surreal images of magical powers, flying monkeys, talking vultures and ancient aircraft are removed, what remains is a more honest account of an amazing triumph of human will; a victory not only of Dharma over Adharma, but of human character over human frailty.
A tale spanning decades and thousands of kilometers, the Ramayana is ancient and timeless. It is a tale that needs to be told as it originally was.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes, of course, us stoopid Hindoos have been mistaken for millennia. Prayse jehovallah, he's going to set us and our epics right. <i>He's</i> the one who knows what has been "mythologized" and what is "the actual story". Just like the hateward ('harvard') folks know the "true" Hinduism from the other kind that Hindus have always practised.
"If (actual elements from Ramayanam) are removed, what remains is a more honest account"
Of course, <i>he</i> - a confused-desi clown who 'discovered' his heritage from the book "Hinduism For Dummies", no doubt - is to be the judge of what is honest in the originals and what ought to be removed. It's like christoislamicommunazis, tearing up/burning people's books again in order to rewrite these and history for their victims the way they want it to be.
Oh, and get this from the above: "the Ramayana ... is a tale that needs to be told as it originally was." That's right, this guy - who wouldn't know the Ramayanam from the Virgin(?) comic book of similar name he's recently booked out of his local 'library' - knows what the story "originally was", rather than the one that Valmiki "obviously got all wrong". That's because our dude has found the <i>truly</i> original manuscript, you see: the one he's plagiarising - sorry, 'writing'.
More from the unimaginative psecularado:
http://www.epictrilogy.com/hist
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Real History of India
This trilogy will replace historical negationism and/or fantasy with a set of historical fictional works that are entertaining and educational.
These novels will not fall into sterotypical representations of avatars with blue skin or magical powers or flying monkeys. Kings will be portrayed as kings, priests as priests, human emotions and actions will be vividly real and I will take the reader back in time to become part of the grand narratives in present tense.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hindu epics are "fantasy"! Such sympathy for his subject! Where had I heard that before... oh yes, the christocolonial British and of course the Indian reds.
And what does he mean by "educational"? Alluding to communist re-education, going by the rest of his nonsense. He seems to have noted MB's importance:
http://www.epictrilogy.com/mbh.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->the Mahabharata is perhaps the KEY to understanding India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->And twisting it he might think is the key to undoing it too?
(At this link he compares MB to modern soap operas <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> The only thing that makes sense is that he's obviously been watching soaps a bit much.)
Mais c'est incroyable! The contents of Valmiki's Ramayanam and Vyasar's Mahabharatam are "stereotypical"? Does the drone know what that word even means? Valmiki's Ramayanam and Vyasar's MB/Jaya are the <i>originals</i>, they're the authentic written sources. And Rama and Krishna have indeed been described as blue - shyama. Hanuman and the other Vanaras were all described as monkeys - literally, complete with tails. According to the same original texts, the Rakshasas' magical powers did grow at night. That's not "stereotypical representations", but the original ones.
But apparently "stereotypical" in his world means Hindu tradition; it means whatever his mind is unable to compute.
This plagiarist's intents behind selection and deselection in rewriting the original epics is what is truly stereotypical: it's the stereotypical excuse which communists and christians end up admitting to (whenever they are forced to agree to/allow <i>some</i> kind of historicity in our Hindu epics). It's centered around "how to root out all that is Hindu from our Hindu epics", leaving us with the sort of bland soup that we can frankly get from anywhere (which is restricted purely to the kind of stuff that can be digested by the confused Indian who is conditioned only to western society's processes and thinking patterns, and therefore finds blue skin, flying monkeys and the rest too much to accept. Rather like how modern western screenplay writers rewrote the Iliad for their lame "Troy" such that there's no sight of the Goddesses trying to win the Apple which led to the war. The net effect is like that of a book where important pages and chapters are torn out.)
The utter lack of imagination is rather predictable, too. He can't even come up with his own stories, but has to go out of his way to twist Hindu epics beyond recognition.
Ah, the modern 'Hindu': the kind that keeps proclaiming that it is Hindu, but in reality feels no connection to the materials it is shearing of Hinduness, or to actual Hindu traditions. Therefore it is not at all unexpected that the kreatur wants to rewrite sacred Hindu epics and the Vedic account of King Sudas its own way - because actual, traditional Hinduism is too alien for it to comprehend and is unacceptable. Its own modern construct of Hinduism must be presented as the "true, honest, original, unstereotypical, non-mythological" Hinduism - versus the Hinduism that us dratted Hindoo gullibles have been following for millennia.
But it's quite likely that many subversive movements will try to garner fame for the epic-twillogy's promised insipidness; heck, with enough publicity, they might even want to make movies of it. Not for any writing/narrating talent on the part of the pawn who is penning it, of course, but merely to infect the minds of next generation Hindus with an un-Hindu view of the epics.
That EpicTwillogy site is linked off of the satyameva-jayate blog, isn't it? Can't figure how any people consciously Hindu would endorse it by putting it in their links section. But, I suppose the confused 'Hindu' mind is rather widespread.
www.epictrilogy.com/
[right][snapback]75258[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Pasting the following from the person who's rewriting the epics (he's only rewriting stuff, because he has no imagination of his own nor can he do a proper retelling that keeps to the spirit of the original either):
http://www.epictrilogy.com/rmy
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The epic tale of Prince Rama has been so heavily mythologized that the actual story has been nearly lost. If surreal images of magical powers, flying monkeys, talking vultures and ancient aircraft are removed, what remains is a more honest account of an amazing triumph of human will; a victory not only of Dharma over Adharma, but of human character over human frailty.
A tale spanning decades and thousands of kilometers, the Ramayana is ancient and timeless. It is a tale that needs to be told as it originally was.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes, of course, us stoopid Hindoos have been mistaken for millennia. Prayse jehovallah, he's going to set us and our epics right. <i>He's</i> the one who knows what has been "mythologized" and what is "the actual story". Just like the hateward ('harvard') folks know the "true" Hinduism from the other kind that Hindus have always practised.
"If (actual elements from Ramayanam) are removed, what remains is a more honest account"
Of course, <i>he</i> - a confused-desi clown who 'discovered' his heritage from the book "Hinduism For Dummies", no doubt - is to be the judge of what is honest in the originals and what ought to be removed. It's like christoislamicommunazis, tearing up/burning people's books again in order to rewrite these and history for their victims the way they want it to be.
Oh, and get this from the above: "the Ramayana ... is a tale that needs to be told as it originally was." That's right, this guy - who wouldn't know the Ramayanam from the Virgin(?) comic book of similar name he's recently booked out of his local 'library' - knows what the story "originally was", rather than the one that Valmiki "obviously got all wrong". That's because our dude has found the <i>truly</i> original manuscript, you see: the one he's plagiarising - sorry, 'writing'.
More from the unimaginative psecularado:
http://www.epictrilogy.com/hist
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Real History of India
This trilogy will replace historical negationism and/or fantasy with a set of historical fictional works that are entertaining and educational.
These novels will not fall into sterotypical representations of avatars with blue skin or magical powers or flying monkeys. Kings will be portrayed as kings, priests as priests, human emotions and actions will be vividly real and I will take the reader back in time to become part of the grand narratives in present tense.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hindu epics are "fantasy"! Such sympathy for his subject! Where had I heard that before... oh yes, the christocolonial British and of course the Indian reds.
And what does he mean by "educational"? Alluding to communist re-education, going by the rest of his nonsense. He seems to have noted MB's importance:
http://www.epictrilogy.com/mbh.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->the Mahabharata is perhaps the KEY to understanding India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->And twisting it he might think is the key to undoing it too?
(At this link he compares MB to modern soap operas <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> The only thing that makes sense is that he's obviously been watching soaps a bit much.)
Mais c'est incroyable! The contents of Valmiki's Ramayanam and Vyasar's Mahabharatam are "stereotypical"? Does the drone know what that word even means? Valmiki's Ramayanam and Vyasar's MB/Jaya are the <i>originals</i>, they're the authentic written sources. And Rama and Krishna have indeed been described as blue - shyama. Hanuman and the other Vanaras were all described as monkeys - literally, complete with tails. According to the same original texts, the Rakshasas' magical powers did grow at night. That's not "stereotypical representations", but the original ones.
But apparently "stereotypical" in his world means Hindu tradition; it means whatever his mind is unable to compute.
This plagiarist's intents behind selection and deselection in rewriting the original epics is what is truly stereotypical: it's the stereotypical excuse which communists and christians end up admitting to (whenever they are forced to agree to/allow <i>some</i> kind of historicity in our Hindu epics). It's centered around "how to root out all that is Hindu from our Hindu epics", leaving us with the sort of bland soup that we can frankly get from anywhere (which is restricted purely to the kind of stuff that can be digested by the confused Indian who is conditioned only to western society's processes and thinking patterns, and therefore finds blue skin, flying monkeys and the rest too much to accept. Rather like how modern western screenplay writers rewrote the Iliad for their lame "Troy" such that there's no sight of the Goddesses trying to win the Apple which led to the war. The net effect is like that of a book where important pages and chapters are torn out.)
The utter lack of imagination is rather predictable, too. He can't even come up with his own stories, but has to go out of his way to twist Hindu epics beyond recognition.
Ah, the modern 'Hindu': the kind that keeps proclaiming that it is Hindu, but in reality feels no connection to the materials it is shearing of Hinduness, or to actual Hindu traditions. Therefore it is not at all unexpected that the kreatur wants to rewrite sacred Hindu epics and the Vedic account of King Sudas its own way - because actual, traditional Hinduism is too alien for it to comprehend and is unacceptable. Its own modern construct of Hinduism must be presented as the "true, honest, original, unstereotypical, non-mythological" Hinduism - versus the Hinduism that us dratted Hindoo gullibles have been following for millennia.
But it's quite likely that many subversive movements will try to garner fame for the epic-twillogy's promised insipidness; heck, with enough publicity, they might even want to make movies of it. Not for any writing/narrating talent on the part of the pawn who is penning it, of course, but merely to infect the minds of next generation Hindus with an un-Hindu view of the epics.
That EpicTwillogy site is linked off of the satyameva-jayate blog, isn't it? Can't figure how any people consciously Hindu would endorse it by putting it in their links section. But, I suppose the confused 'Hindu' mind is rather widespread.