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Destruction Of Hindu Culture From India

<b>Husky Ji :</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Didn't you notice that for months now (8 or 9 months?) I've had nothing to contribute - IIRC, mine's all been opinionated posts zapping IF bandwidth. I actually don't remember what I wrote before that period - possibly more of the same... (Amnesia serves me well now.)
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Really?

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The cause is christoislamism, communism, psecularism, foreign meddling... Do you mean I refuse to offer solutions? That's because I don't know of any. I'm not Brain. I'm not even as clever as the other labrat. I try to avoid thinking most of the time - was never good at it, not my thing. Hence, not your man for a plan.
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I concur that thinking is alien to you. One does not expect you to offer solution. One is only suggesting that it would be more pertinent if you were to address the Cause and find ways of counteracting the Cause.

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->I've been taking personal revenge for every single instance of anti-Hindu rhetoric I've come across on the web and in books. I'm not there yet. I will go on until I've cleared it. Then I may return to using 'christianism' and 'islamism' instead. Although 'christoislamiterrorism' is actually appropriately descriptive (number of humans it has murdered: beyond our capabilities to contemplate).
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One would suggest that this Esteemed Forum be used in a constructive manner for the common weal rather than personal revenge.

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->I agree with you about the terrorism. But why are we not allowed to do reconversions in our lands - in case that is what you mean with 'proselytizing'?
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Re-Conversion : I have nothing against a Non-Hindu wanting to Convert to Hinduism - more power to the Person. What I am against is “to do re-conversion” at the “re-converter’s” behest. IOW Conversion or Re-Conversion should be of the Person wanting same.

Proselytising : It means to make or try to make converts. This is converting either by force or by guile.

Until the Nineteenth Century Christianity usually converted by force - if not physical means then at least by creating circumstances which left the person to be converted no choice.

Today the Christian Proselytisers Convert mainly by guile - Monetary Incentives etc.

The reasons, IMO, for the Christians tying to convert all and sundry is due to the fact that Christianity receding (for want of a better word) in the Occident.

Thus in the need of "Bigger Battalions" the Christians are Proselytising in Asia and Africa. An Example : In Great Britain there are about One Million Christians (total population content over 95%) regularly attending Church which figure is far less in comparison with Muslims (about 2% population content) who regularly attend Mosques.

Islam is still using Force to Convert Non-Muslims especially in Muslim Majority Countries and guile - including of course Monetary benefits - in Non-Muslim Majority Countries.

In India there is far less conversion to Islam in comparison with conversion to Christianity.

The huge increase, in terms of proportions, of the Muslim Population Content in India is due to the over Forty Million Bangladeshi Muslim Illegal Immigrants and possibly over Twenty Million Illegal Pakistani Muslim Immigrants into India in the last Forty Years or so.

This is what must be addressed rather than whining and whinging about Conversion which though substantial is only minuscule in numbers as compared to the Illegal Immigration of Muslims from Pakistan and Bangladesh.

This Illegal Muslim Immigrants from Pakistan and Bangladesh is also by way of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis visiting India with an "Indian Visit Visa" and then, in Tens of Thousands Annually, not returning to their Terroristan and Bhookhananga Desh respectively.

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hey, I don't actually attack people unless I dislike their character or one or more of their primary qualities.

I didn't do that to you, because as I recall, there's been nothing that you've said (that I've read) that offended me.
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One does not feel the need of attack as there are many ways of killing a cat than “strangling it by the neck”.

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Arrogance (sense of superiority), cowardice, psecularism/equal-equalism/anti-Hindu 'Hindus', a meanness/pettyness of character and certain other things offend me. Deeply. I despise these qualities, and I hate to see them in those professing Hindu Dharma. No greater turn-off. Though I may not always say what I dislike about someone, one can obviously tell I dislike them - for whatever undeclared reason - if I start flaming in my usual manner. I don't usually bother telling such characters why I can't stand them (are they worth it? <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) There. You know more about me now than before I blabbed it - though I always thought I was ultra-transparent, but apparently I'm not?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

In a normal dialogue one feels that nobody has the prerogative of “Flaming” as the same is not necessary. One should be able to puts one’s views across without resorting to “Un-gentlemanly” conduct bordering on the Uncouth.

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Nov 2 2008, 06:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->But can I ask what your post has to do with the transcript of Rajan's video, since that seems to be the last post I made on this thread? Am seriously at a loss...
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I see no evidence in my Message Posted Yesterday, 02-11-2008 at 04:52 PM of having alluded to Rajan’s Video.

Prithee, let me know what makes you think so!

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"The huge increase, in terms of proportions, of the Muslim Population Content in India is due to the over Forty Million Bangladeshi Muslim Illegal Immigrants and possibly over Twenty Million Illegal Pakistani Muslim Immigrants into India in the last Forty Years or so."

Seems like an overestimate at least in the context of Pakis, part of the increase has to do with difference in tfr, this is particularly evident in Kerala where the poorest community (Hindus) have the lowest tfr whereas the Muslims are above replacement with xtians being similar to Hindus, in the longterm this would mean we will have about 2 more Hindu minority states (Kerala and Assam).
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^ BV's post



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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Conversions to christoislamism and christoconditioning (incl. psecularisation) absolutely must be undone. Therefore: always let them know the horrible truths behind christoislamiterrorism, which will *make* them want to deconvert from it of their own accord. At the same time, undo their lies about our own Dharma and that of other Natural Traditions, so that the deconverted will reconsider these. Natural Traditions are a defense against psecularisation/lingering christoconditioning post-deconversion; also it puts them back on track in the natural mental evolution that their ancestors were on.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Today the Christian Proselytisers Convert mainly by guile - Monetary Incentives etc.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Both guile *and* force are still used. Which is used, depends on where the victim of christoterrorism is/how well their protestations and tormented cries can be heard.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The reasons, IMO, for the Christians tying to convert all and sundry is due to the fact that Christianity receding (for want of a better word) in the Occident.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->No, meme propagation is intrinsic to christianism (just as it is to islam). *That* is why christians are trying to convert. Even if the west were still completely christian, there'd be the same attempt to conquer the unconverted world for their gawd. Many Indians keep missing the actual problem and causes of it.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->suggest that this Esteemed Forum be used in a constructive manner for the common weal rather than personal revenge.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The revenge bit referred only to the *terms* used, not the circumstances. That is, whenever the occasion arises where I need to mention christoislamism and its gawd, I use these properly descriptive words. When I don't have cause to mention those religions/their makebelieves, it naturally follows that I don't use the words.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->conduct bordering on the Uncouth<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Neither of us need lecture the other on how to be well-spoken or well-behaved. Uncouth conduct in my view includes posting tacky poems about TSPers and their repulsive advances/assaults on goats or some other poor animal - IIRC something you did.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><whatever> suggesting that it would be more pertinent if you were to address the Cause and find ways of counteracting the Cause.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I've already stated (#120): "The cause is christoislamism, communism, psecularism, foreign meddling..." And I've already said I do not know how exactly all these may be neutralised. There are some ideas of course - mostly those the ancient Romans like Julian came up with (since most of the time, Indians don't even seem to be able to recognise that there is a problem. And when they do, they tend to misidentify it.)

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Prithee, let me know what makes you think so! (contradiction: you'd said earlier in the same post that "thinking is alien to me".)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Unlike your use of the verb in #121, when *I* used the word 'think' in #120 I meant "coming up with plans or solutions to problems" - it's how we often apply the word in my field, where "to think" is frequently used as synonymous with "to solve". I applied it in #120 solely in that sense. Of course, humans tend to do the more general 'thinking' (as in pondering or forming opinions) much of the time, so the general sort of 'thinking' is usually taken as a given. (BTW, attempts at directing personal insults toward me tend to be ineffectual.)

Anyway, what makes me 'think' so: the most straightforward reasons of all. The fact that your post
- was posted on this thread,
- came directly after my post containing the transcript
- was addressed to me
- and finally: since you hardly ever post outside of the Strategic thread group, most frequently the TSP thread. Yet you've come to this thread to write a post addressed to me, so it seemed natural to suppose it had something to do with my post preceding it.

But since you imply your #119 was unrelated to my #118, then what was its direct cause/reason?


Edit: re-adjusted post numbers
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Reprise.
Obscured by other posts and now in the previous page, but I think a lot of important things were said in the video:
- Post 117 contains a link to a <b>video on Intellectual Subversion</b> that has Radha Rajan speaking on the terrorist ideologies (christoislamicommunipsecularism)
- Post 118 a <b>transcript</b> of that video.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Sep 5 2008, 09:05 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Sep 5 2008, 09:05 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Shame of India Manmohan SIngh did it again.</b>

<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Crescent and Cross replace Sun and Lotus in Kendriya Vidyalaya emblem</b>
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This is making me very angry. These congress are traitor, babus are traitors who had joined scums to promote Queen.
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<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

<b>Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan</b>

I am sorry that I do not know how to convert a "bmp" link to a "jpg" link.

I see no Crescent and/or Star and/or Cross.

Please comment.

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You can't see because that image is too small.

http://www.kvnsgmanesar.com/images/LOGO.jpg

In that, its obvious.
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Nareshji,
It used to be Lotus flower.
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<b>Mudy Ji : </b>

I agree that it was the “Lotus” and since the Original Logo was created over Four Decades ago there was no BJP Symbol but one does not find the new symbol offensive except that the so called “Hindu Seculars” using it to trumpet “Vote Bank” Support.

I concur with you that replacing the “Lotus” as well as the “Sun” was not necessary but I am sure that it can revert to its Original when we have the Indian Majority Community elect a Government which pays heed to its Religious Sentiments.

<b>Pandyan Ji :</b>

The Sphere and Cross is in my opinion unlike the Orb and Cross as the Arms of the Cross in the present Logo are equal in Length whereas the “Christian Cross has un-equal Arms.

I trust you are aware of the hold of the “Christian Missionaries” on our Educational System especially in the Urban Areas and may be the solution lies in the Hindu Community Contributing More to the setting up of “Hindu Education Societies‘” Educational Institutions.

In general one feels that using vile, vituperative and deeming language will not make any of the changes that you and I desire.

In ending why is it that an Illegal Indian Citizen (who took Indian Citizenship in 1985 while still holding Italian Citizenship) is Elected to our Parliament and has access to all “Sensitive and Secret” Documents? Therein lies the bitter truth.

<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>To all :</span></b> Work for the change by Addressing the Cause not by whinging and whining at the Effect.

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"I trust you are aware of the hold of the “Christian Missionaries” on our Educational System especially in the Urban Areas and may be the solution lies in the Hindu Community Contributing More to the setting up of “Hindu Education Societies‘” Educational Institutions."

Well before that we need to get rid of article 30 which gives the gov't the right to take over Hindu mandirs and schools, there is also a need to cut off all public funds to xtian schools and madrasas (eg: St. Stephens), of course the failure lay with BJP for not tackling these simple things when in power.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Nov 11 2008, 06:29 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Nov 11 2008, 06:29 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->"I trust you are aware of the hold of the “Christian Missionaries” on our Educational System especially in the Urban Areas and may be the solution lies in the Hindu Community Contributing More to the setting up of “Hindu Education Societies‘” Educational Institutions."

Well before that we need to get rid of article 30 which gives the gov't the right to take over Hindu mandirs and schools, there is also a need to cut off all public funds to xtian schools and madrasas (eg: St. Stephens), of course the failure lay with BJP for not tackling these simple things when in power.
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<b>Bharatvarsh Ji :</b>

Aha! So it has come to pass that even the BJP is also afflicted by the malaise.

After all it is wisely said <b>Actions Speak Better Than Words!</b>

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<!--QuoteBegin-Naresh+Nov 11 2008, 09:05 PM-->QUOTE(Naresh @ Nov 11 2008, 09:05 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Aha! So it has come to pass that even the BJP is also afflicted by the malaise.

After all it is wisely said <b>Actions Speak Better Than Words!</b>

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Naresh Ji,

One BJP MP Mr. Sanglina, was actively and openly sponsoring evangelism and going about setting christian youth cells in Karnataka, and BJP did nothing about it. Sanglina finally ditched BJP by voting in favour of MMS govt during the last confidence motion.

In Arunachal, it was BJP which destabilized Mithi government when Mithi went after curbing missionary activities in his state.

One would do better to keep our expectations from BJP in control. It is kind of a diluted version of p-secularism, or at least a heavy PC-conditioning. Yes sir, one humbly says that BJP is in control of those who are also afflicted by the malaise, sad but true. No such strong ideological moorings as one naturally expects from the party founded by SP Mookerjee.
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"Aha! So it has come to pass that even the BJP is also afflicted by the malaise.

After all it is wisely said Actions Speak Better Than Words!"

Of course, no party has remained unaffected, i have always been critical of BJP's lack of action and do not trust Hajvani at all.

The way I see it there is no comprehensive ideology guiding BJP right now, and a genuine Hindu movement would need to tackle a lot of other issues besides simply saying bring back POTA, people like Savarkar did what they could in their times and laid the foundation, it is upto the current generation to develop a genuine political movement based upon Hindu ideals.

Let me give some examples of the other important issues that BJP could have addressed but chose not to in their monomania, abortion (i am strongly against it with some exceptions), firearm rights, homosexuality, drug laws, prostitution, cruelty towards animals, economic policies (freemarket vs socialist etc). All these are issues facing us today but which have been ignored.
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<b>Bodhi Ji & Bharatvarsh Ji :</b>

Many thanks for your Posts #131 respectively #132.

Now that we know of a significant Part of the Cause we should try and find ways so that it can be remedied!

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<b>Hindus demand temples to be protected</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->PANAJI: "Frame a temple protection law", was the demand echoed by nearly 70,000 Hindus gathered at the SAG ground at Campal on Saturday for a 
meeting of the Goa Akhil Mandir Suraksha Samitti.

<b>Over 20 bus loads of members of various Hindu organisations descended on SAG ground to hear their leaders condemn the recent series of temple desecrations in the state. </b>

As huge crowds blocked roads that led to the ground, some buses had to be diverted.

The resolution passed at the end of the meeting also demanded that the miscreants who desecrated the temples should be arrested immediately. The leaders also warned artists not to resort to distortion of figures of Hindu gods and goddesses.

The meeting also demanded that the government ban killing of cows all over Goa and that all grants to Haj pilgrims should be stopped. T<b>he demands also included reinstatement policemen who were transferred after they arrested persons from a madrassa in Vasco.</b>
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Fascist Government is in charge, what one can expect. As Hitler did with Jews, Indian Government is doing with Hindus. Ruling Congress Party is same party which once imposed dictorial law on India and abused millions of Indians. Till now we don't know how many Indian were killed by Indian COngress Party during Emergency period. Indian COngress Party is able to destroy all records, why it is different than Saddam Hussein's B'aath Party?
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DMK kills another Hindu tradition

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mr Karunanidhi seems to be on a fast track mission to conclusively demolish Hinduism in Tamil Nadu. Recall his ‘DMK-ising’ the Tamil calendar to pass derogatory remarks about tilak. And now, this. The Chidambaram Dikshitars — temple priests — who’ve been struggling to maintain their livelihood from just the temple earnings, are naturally outraged. Their impoverished plight is well-documented. Yet their steadfast faith in god keeps them going. Sadly, the High Court judgement has robbed them of even this. While they have expressed their intent to challenge the court order, Mr Karunanidhi has wasted no time to implement it. His publicity machinery has already termed this shameful move as a “boost for tourism”. What it doesn’t realise is how duplicitous it sounds: Temples are not tourist attractions.

This brings us back to the same point: In an ostensibly secular nation, can courts decide on matters that fall in the religious domain? Recent history shows that secular establishments invoke the courts in the hope of getting favourable verdicts in matters that damage Hindu institutions while ‘minority institutions’ are virtually beyond the law.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Piglet goes not believe in V day
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<!--QuoteBegin-Shambhu+Feb 14 2009, 09:42 PM-->QUOTE(Shambhu @ Feb 14 2009, 09:42 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Piglet goes not believe in V day
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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Why why Raoul John Paul Gandhi's stance on valentine's day is a very catholic/christian position.


Raoul Gandhi is so not a piglet. Pigs are good creatures - they do not lie and commit genocide as christoislamiterrorists do. Piglets are cuddly besides. I see no need to insult these friendly animals by undeservedly honouring the catholic terrorist who's being groomed to terrorise our country in the future with such a respectable title.

Raoul John Paul Gandhi is the ChristoTerror's Crown Prince.
A christoterrorist-tyrant-in-training.
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Sorry, will call Raol "Christoinquisitorson" instead of Piglet!
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If you agree with the message and are seeking justice for Dikshidars and protection of Chidambaram Natarajar Temple please sign the following petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/Rudhram/petition.html
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<!--QuoteBegin-Shy+Feb 16 2009, 08:55 PM-->QUOTE(Shy @ Feb 16 2009, 08:55 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you agree with the message and are seeking justice for Dikshidars and protection of Chidambaram Natarajar Temple please sign the following petition:
(and if you would, pass it on to all Hindus you know)

http://www.petitiononline.com/Rudhram/petition.html
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Why Chidambaram Kovil is important to all Hindus:

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Cosmology.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Chidambaram</b>

<b>Chidambaram, the site of Shiva's cosmic dance,</b> has been the center of Shaivite art and thought for over a millennium. Its great temple, built by successive southern Indian dynasties between the 8th and 12th centuries A.D. is dedicated to Shiva Nataraja, and is said to be the site of his legendary dance in the presence of his consort Parvati. Shiva's dancing icon resides in the Golden Hall, a symbol of the nucleus of the atom and of the center (bindu) of the universe. The Upanishads, Vedas, Puranas and other sacred Hindu texts are represented by parts of the temple complex, the temple as a whole standing for the totality of Hindu knowledge. <b>Shiva's dance to Parvati</b> is celebrated in a great festival in December.
(Parvati as Nataraja's wife is called ShivaKamaSundari)

<b>Significance:</b> Chidambaram is one of the most ancient and most celebrated of shrines in India. It is of great religious as well as historic and cultural significance. Chidambaram is associated with Nataraja, or Shiva in his Ananda Tandava pose (the Cosmic Dance of bliss) in the cosmic golden hall and the hall of consciousness (Chit Sabha). <b>Shiva is also worshipped in the "formless form" of the Chidambara Rahasyam, while the temple is known for its Akasa Lingam, an embodiment of Shiva as the formless Space. The word "Koyil" or temple in the Tamil Saivite tradition refers to none other than the Chidambaram Nataraja temple.</b>


<b>Antiquity: The origins of this vast temple are buried in antiquity. Literature talks of a tradition of Shiva (Nataraja) worship in existence even as early as the Sangam period</b> (very early on in the Christian era), and the <b>Tamil Saints</b> have sung its fame when an established worship tradition was in place. The later <b>Chola Kings</b> (Aditya I and Parantaka I) adorned the roof of the shrine with gold, and the other Chola Kings treated Nataraja as their guardian deity and made several endowments to the temple as temple inscriptions testify. The <b>Pandya Kings</b> who followed them, and the later <b>Vijayanagar rulers</b> made several endowments to the temple. There is a stone image of <b>Krishnadevaraya</b> in the North Gopura which he is said to have erected. In the wars of the 18th century, this temple was used as a fort, especially when the British General Sir Eyre Coote unsuccesfully tried to capture it from the <b>Mysore Kings</b>. During this period, the images of Nataraja and Sivakamasundari were housed in the <b>Tiruvarur Tyagaraja temple for safety</b>.

<b>Muthuswamy Deekshitar, one of the foremost composers in the Karnatic Music tradition sings the glory of this temple in his kriti 'Ananda Natana Prakasam'.</b> The Alwar Poems of the Naalayira Divya Prabandam sing the glory of Vishnu, whose image is also housed in this temple, and his shrine is referred to as 'Tiruchitrakootam'. <b>Adi Sankara</b> is said to have presented a Spatika Lingam which is still under worship in this temple. <b>Sekkizhaar</b>'s Periya Puranam, describing poetically the life of the Saivite Saints (63 in number) was composed in the 1000 pillared hall, and was expounded by the author himself in the presence of the <b>Chola emperor Kulottunga II</b>, who had comissioned the work, amidts great festivity and fanfare.

Each of the four most revered Saivite Saints (Appar, Sundarar, Sambandar and Manikkavacakar) has worshipped at Chidambaram, and the bulk of Manikkavacakar's work is in praise of Shiva at Chidambaram. Accordingly, their images are placed in the temple entrances corresponding to their points of entry into the temple. (Sambandar - South, Appar - West, Sundarar - North and Manikkavacakar - East).

Legends associated with this temple:

<b>Aadi Sesha, the serpent (couch) of Vishnu, heard from Vishnu the grandeur of Shiva's cosmic dance. Filled with irrepressable desire to witness this dance in person at Chidambaram, Seshan descended to the earth as Patanjali (the one who descended). Vyagrapaadar, another devotee of Shiva</b> prayed to obtain the tiger's claws so that he could obtain with ease the sacred Vilva leaves meant for Shiva's worship at Chidambaram. At the appointed hour, Shiva (with Sivakami) granted to Patanjali and Vyagrapaadar, a visual treat in the form of his Cosmic Dance of Bliss, to the accompaniments of music played by several divine personalities in the Hindu pantheon. <b>This Dance of Bliss is said to have been witnessed by Vishnu, and there is a Govindaraja shrine in the Natarajar temple commemorating this.</b> The dance of bliss of Shiva, is also said to have been enacted upon Shiva's (Bhikshatana) victory over the married ascetics of Daruka Vanam.

Yet another legend, commemorating the dance duel between the doyens of dance Shiva and Kali is associated with Chidambaram. Shiva is said to have lifted his left foot towards the sky in the Urdhuva Tandava posture, a definite male gesture, which out of adherence to protocol, Kaali could not reciprocate, thereby causing Shiva to emerge victorious, delegating Kaali to the status of a primary deity in another temple in the outskirts of Chidambaram. This legend is portrayed in the Nritta Sabha, one of the halls within the Chidambaram temple.
(Had been told this event concerning Shiva and Parvati by my relatives since I was little: "And thus, Shiva was recognised as Best Dancer.")

There is another recent legend associated with this temple. The sacred Tamil works of the Nayanmaars had been missing for several years, and it was during the period of Raja Raja Chola (the builder of the Grand temple at Tanjavur) that formal research was initiated to trace these fine works of devotional literature. These works of the Saivite Saints - rich in musical content were recovered in a dilapidated state in one of the chambers in this vast temple, after the monarch brought images of the Saint trinity in procession to the temple.
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