Jan Lokpal movement

[Guest]

People want to see action against corrupt people such as putting Chiddu in jail and bringing back billions of black money. The whole Anna Hazare movement was not actually for some version of Lokpal bill (though not against) but total disapproval and venting of anger against corrupt people. So the tide has already turned away from Anna especially after the Congress successfully split the Team away.



I am certain that educated people are looking for Dr.Swamy to successfully prosecute P.Chidambaram. That will not only cause the fall of the UPA but get the people back on the street against Sonia and her ilk looting this country.

[Guest]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyns_6pwwVU&feature=related"][size="4"]Ramlila Maidaan Delhi में Baba Ramdev Subramanian Swamy (हिंदी) [/size][/url]



[size="4"][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM-dvCB2Uno&feature=related"]Baba Ramdev के चिंतन शिविर में Subramanian Swamy (हिंदी)[/url][/size]

[Guest]

Chiddu is well protected by MMS's IPS son-in-law.

[simplyrohit21]

So its out finally-



[url="http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/nation/north/anna-hazare-gets-maoist-support-077"][size="3"]Anna Hazare gets Maoist support[/size][/url]

This has been disclosed by top Maoist leader Vijay Kumar Arya alias Jaspal, who has told the police during his interrogation that CPI(Maoist) spokesperson Abhay has “extended his support to Anna Hazare on the issue of corruption”.He said the outfit has also decided to take up people’s issues and expose corruption in the Centrally sponsored rural development schemes.

This new item was apparently published only in Deccan Chronicle; also, only DC had earlier published about Sonia ailing and undergoing Cancer treatment.

Sooner or later more such facts about this 'movement' will trickle down; RR has already disclosed it at Vijayvaani and Vigilonline.

[simplyrohit21]

What would Americans say if they found their polling stations and certain political parties entirely infiltrated by Chinese money, Chinese observers, and Chinese-backed candidates promoting China’s interests in an AMERICAN election? The answer ranges from incarceration, to trials featuring charges ranging from fraud, to sedition and even treason, with sentences ranging from decades to life in prison, perhaps even death, as well as possible military action for what could easily be considered an act of war.





Indeed, the attempted subversion of a foreign nation and/or meddling in its elections are acts of war, an act of war the United States government through its various “Non-Governmental Organizations” (NGOs) have been committing on and off for decades around the globe. In fact, the very “Arab Spring” is a geopolitical conflagration tipped off by this vast network of Western backed NGOs.

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[url="http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=2094"]US Caught Meddling in Russian Elections! Putin compares US funded NGOs to Judas the betrayer Tony Cartalucci[/url][/size]



Friends, the fears are not completely unfounded in the Indian scenario. As some members have previously pointed out already, there is indeed solid funding from US groups to these anti-corruption NGOs. Recently I personally happened to meet a gentlemen who confirmed and divulged even more details about this Jan Lokpal movement.

[simplyrohit21]

What would Americans say if they found their polling stations and certain political parties entirely infiltrated by Chinese money, Chinese observers, and Chinese-backed candidates promoting China’s interests in an AMERICAN election? The answer ranges from incarceration, to trials featuring charges ranging from fraud, to sedition and even treason, with sentences ranging from decades to life in prison, perhaps even death, as well as possible military action for what could easily be considered an act of war.





Indeed, the attempted subversion of a foreign nation and/or meddling in its elections are acts of war, an act of war the United States government through its various “Non-Governmental Organizations” (NGOs) have been committing on and off for decades around the globe. In fact, the very “Arab Spring” is a geopolitical conflagration tipped off by this vast network of Western backed NGOs.

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[url="http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=2094"]US Caught Meddling in Russian Elections! Putin compares US funded NGOs to Judas the betrayer Tony Cartalucci[/url][/size]



Friends, the fears are not completely unfounded in the Indian scenario. As some members have previously pointed out already, there is indeed solid funding from US groups to these anti-corruption NGOs. Recently I personally happened to meet a gentlemen who confirmed and divulged even more details about this Jan Lokpal movement.

[Guest]

[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/newdelhi/Debate-to-end-all-debates-Lokpal-bill-set-for-Parliament/Article1-785549.aspx"]Debate to end all debates: Lokpal bill set for Parliament[/url]

The government is set to introduce the lokpal bill in the Lok Sabha on Thursday, with a combative UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi coming out strongly in support of the government on this issue. The draft was sealed late on Wednesday evening after the government removed minorities from the list of categories that will get 50% representation in the lokpal panel, as the Constitution did not allow reservation on the basis of religion.

Congress is hell bent to destroy India. What British can't do, Nehru's family and his elites friends are able to do so.

[ravish]

[The Mumbai High Court has turned down the petition seeking direction to the Municipal Corporation to provide rent free space for the prposed Satyagraha by Anna Hazari.It has stated that the agitation cannot be termed as in public interest, as it may cause problems for many others, font="Arial"][size="4"][/size][/font]

[Guest]

[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/newdelhi/Last-lokpal-battle-of-2011-begins-today/Article1-787450.aspx"]Last lokpal battle of 2011 begins today[/url]

Good luck, if they can beat Corrupt Congress Party and Babus of India.

Chances are nil, appointed Prime Minister of India is next in line after Assad now.

[Guest]

The demands are:

The CBI should come under the lokpal;

The lokpal at the Centre and the lokayuktas in the states should have the power to initiate investigations into cases of corruption even when there are no complaints;

The lokpal should be selected by consensus and not by majority decision within the selection panel; and

The lokpal should have powers to probe Group C employees.

There should be no former judges or Babus. These damn idiots join commissions and panel to make TA and DA and deliver reports as they did after Godhra, Ayodhya and 1984 riots.

[ravish]

The Rajya Sabha was adjourned without voting on the Lok Pal Bill last night.The proceedings indicated that non of the political parties were serious to have the bill passed. On the other hand Anna Hazari had to call off his fast due to poor public response in Mumbai.

The biggest mistake of Anna Hazari and his team was that they alienated the political class , in particular the members of parliament. They overestimated their public support and tried to dictate terms to the Members of Parliament. The Congress Government initially tried to accommodate the demands of the so called representative of the civil society. This gave a false sense of importance to the Anna team members and they continued to press for an early Lok Pal bill containing their own terms and conditions. Initially, a few of the opposition parties extended support to team Anna just for the sake of embarrassing the Government. They soon realized that their support to team Anna will soon undermine not only the supremacy of parliament but also their own power and position. The subsequent political deliberations inside and outside the Parliament was ment only to ensure that there is no major popular movement. The moment the political leaders realized that Anna does not have much public support, they felt more confident and the end result was that the Lok Pal bill has been kept 9in the freezer.

The team Anna by its arrogant behavior and big talks have lost mass support. They gave an impression that they can dictate terms to the Parliament and the legislations needs to be done on their terms and conditions. Thus an impression was created that the Anna team wants to subvert the most important institution of our democratic system.

[Guest]

[url="http://janamejayan.wordpress.com/2011/12/30/obituary-anna-hazare-movement/"][size="5"]Obituary – Anna Hazare Movement![/size][/url]



When Dr.Subramanian Swamy exposed the 2G corruption and went to the court to get the criminal ministers packed off to Tihar, the Congress realized that there was a surge in anger of the people against them. The Tamilnadu election exposed this truth so vehemently. They saw the danger writ large on the wall if Dr. Swamy were to succeed in the court. And in a bid to stem the gathering danger they set in motion the talk of how to thwart corruption rather than catch and punish the criminals. Thus was born Anna Hazare and his Lokpal movement! It was Gandhi-cap, national flag and even Sonia Gandhi writing to Anna all like the ‘independence movement’!



There were in our midst some true nationalists who were quite upset with the turn of events. Ramdev saw the danger of the criminals who steal national wealth and stashing it abroad escaping in the fashion of Quantarocchi and so this Saadhu began to set out on his own to keep the focus of the people on the criminals particularly Sonia and her mafia that her kept press and political goons were trying to blunt. So he set out on a fast unto death refusing to be cajoled into submission. The reaction of the Italian Mafia was quick and vehement. The Delhi police in thousands ruthlessly unleashed their violence at ‘mindnight Jalianwallah Baag’ at Ramlila Maidan. Ramdev was hounded and banished from Delhi.



Sonia’s whipping of the danda only increased people’s anger further. She took sick leave and tried to gain some sympathy(!) through her kept press. Yet the people’s disappointment and frustration was seen in the internet even as the kept press monopolised the spreading of the goebellian lies in their domain. The Congress realized that there is a new need for a new tactic. So Anna Hazare was goaded to act, this time in great frenzy and festoon! The greatest thamaasha of it all was while Anna fasted people at the Maidan were feasted and there were drums, songs and dance as if it is something to rejoice and celebrate of course with the flaunting of gandhi caps and national flags! Then again it ended with a great promise of enactment of a new law.



So on to the parliament to enact the law! Yes, the law that the Congress don’t want nor what the people do like. There was this ‘great’ controversy of the Anna Hazare stealing the rights of parliament while members of Anna Team being vilified as stealers and corrupters. And finally when it reached the Parliament the people witnessed how the legislators of all hues have tried one-upmanship against each other to produce the biggest nothing. The Indian parliament once again stood exposed as the gang of criminals who are bent upon cheating the people.



At the very moment Anna Hazare Movement died an ignoble death! After all he has already served his purpose to his masters and had to be disbanded!

[Guest]

Dr.Swamy's tweet



Swamy39 Subramanian Swamy

"Behaviour of Mamta,Lalu, and Mulayam MPs was organised by Vishkanya to discredit MMS and make him quit."

[simplyrohit21]

A very interesting news item I discovered while looking for the pre-lokpal Anna on google. It is somewhat funny when considered in the present scenario:



[url="http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200808172073.htm"]Hazare, Darsheel Safary, Malkit Singh get Rajiv Gandhi Award[/url]

Sunday, August 17, 2008

Hazare, who received the award for social work, said, "Rajiv Gandhi was the first politician in this country who brought in constitutional amendment for decetralisation of power."

"He led a spotless life. He would be an inspiration for the youth," Hazare added. [color="#0000FF"]Hazare received the award from senior Congress leader Digvijay Singh.[/color]

And of course, I'm sure member of IF must be aware of the boycotted-by-media public rally at Delhi at which BR and AH shared the dias; till that time shri Hazare was a relatively regional figure and was full of reverence for Baba Ramdev. Incredibly interesting!

[Guest]

Hazare was propped up just to sideline Ramdev.

[simplyrohit21]

[quote name='Mudy' date='31 December 2011 - 11:15 AM' timestamp='1325309850' post='114125']

Hazare was propped up just to sideline Ramdev.

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True that. I'm just looking at the funny side of things; same Diggy (as is his job ever since he has been out of MP) suffering from verbal diarrhea against Mr. Hazare, who presented him the award on govt. behalf. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Guest]

[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Team-Anna-to-shed-anti-Cong-image/Article1-791344.aspx"]Team Anna to shed anti-Cong image[/url]



Here is another proof.

[simplyrohit21]

Sham goes on:



[url="http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/cracks-appear-between-team-annas-delhi-and-mumbai-groups-after-mmrda-fiasco/1/167296.html"]Cracks appear between Team Anna's Delhi and Mumbai groups after MMRDA fiasco[/url]

In the middle of the fast a newspaper reported how Hazare's sister was humiliated at the MMRDA ground as the organisers failed to recognise her. She was shooed away and in tears she was only recognised by other Ralegan Siddhi residents.



Furious at the Mumbai organisers, Hazare later asked his entire team to apologise to her. After the fast, he has slipped into silence.



Kejriwal rushed to Pune to pacify the Gandhian. His meeting with Hazare in the hospital lasted four hours. But, for the record, the team has been trying to paper over the cracks.

[ravish]

The movement against corruption by Anna and his team has come to a grinding halt. This was not expected by the general public and hence there was good attendance in the earlier fast at Delhi. Subsequently, there was several contradiction within the Anna’s core team that surfaced in the media. The team made another fatal mistake, they antagonised the entire political leadership of the country, from the Left to the BJP in varying degree. It proved to be a big disaster. The Anti Congress posture of the Anna team made people suspicious about their actual motive.

Meanwhile , with the elections due in several States, the political leaders are now busy arranging the finances required to fight the elections. They do not have time to devote on Anna and his team. Once the politicians pull out their support , it is next to impossible to sustain any movement, howsoever noble the cause may be.

[simplyrohit21]

On a separate note, I personally happened to meet an individual from NGO sector working in Bihar who confirmed that all the people involved with Anna's movement are from NGOs and well funded by Ford and other US based institutions purely to carry out their motives; he also confirmed that the common man is not aware of it (of course some of us get to know it due to the net). The possibility of these US based groups funding them again for any other issues and pushing their conduits/proxies to carry out their missions can not be ruled out.It will be interesting to see in what form their next 'movement' is going to appear as Mr. Kejriwal seems to be asking for suggestions:



[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/People-should-suggest-the-way-ahead-for-Team-Anna/articleshow/11383019.cms"]People should suggest the way ahead for Team Anna[/url]

Should Anna go for another fast? But the government has already indicated that if people participating in the movement don't translate into votes, they don't care. Some have suggested we should form our own party. But we neither have the will nor the capacity. This is a people's movement. The movement was successful because thousands participated. The people should now suggest the way ahead. Send your suggestions to iacsuggestions@gmail .com.

"civil society" at it again. Also did they ask the people when they started all this? Now that they've floundered, (although they never were serious; even today Baba Ramdev's rallies attract more crowd wherever he goes. The media might now relay it thats a different thing.) they reach out to people.