Destruction Of Hindu Culture From India

[Husky]

See also previous 2 posts.

Still on:
<!--QuoteBegin-Shy+Feb 16 2009, 08:55 PM-->QUOTE(Shy @ Feb 16 2009, 08:55 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you agree with the message and are seeking justice for Dikshidars and protection of Chidambaram Natarajar Temple <b>please sign the following petition</b>:
(and if you would, pass it on to all Hindus you know)

http://www.petitiononline.com/Rudhram/petition.html
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As a bribe (I suppose) or rather as encouragement, am once more uploading the beautiful carnatic song on our ChidambaraNatha called "aananda natanaprakaasham" by Moothuswami Dikshitar sung by Bombay Jayashree. This composition was also mentioned in the excerpt pasted in the previous post.
<b>Download:</b> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L1RBBX7S (9.45 Mb, ~10min song)


Muthuswami Dikshitar's Ananda naTanaprakAsham
Lyrics followed by the meaning of the profound composition (I had saved the following materials from online):

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is part of the Panchalinga kshetra kritis
a set of 5 compositions on the <b>lingas representing the five elements</b> at kAnchipuram[earth], tiruvanaikkaval[water],tiruvannamalai[fire],kalhasti[wind] and <b>cidambaram[ether]</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>ADDED:</b> Bodhi, will you please check the lyrics+translation to see whether the following is correct and complete, or else correct/complete it? I am not asking this for any casual reasons.

Lyrics:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><i>Compositions of Muddusvami Dikshitar</i> by Sangeetha Kalanidhi T. K. Govinda Rao, published in Chennai 1997 (No. 336).
<b>Ragam:</b> kEdAram / <b>Talam:</b> mishra cApu

<b>Pallavi:</b> AnandanaTanaprakAsham citsabhEsham AshrayAmi shivakAmavallIsham
<b>Anupallavi:</b> bhAnukOTi kOTisaHNkAsham bhukti muktiprada daharAkAsham dInajana samrakSaNa caNam divyapataHnjali vyAghrapAda darshitakuHnjitAbjacaraNam
<b>Charanam:</b> shItAmshu gaHNgAdharam nIlakandharam shrI kEdArAdi kSEtrAdhAram bhUtEsham shArddUlacarmAmbaram cidambaram bhUsura trisahasra munIshvaram vishvEshvaram navanItahRdayama sadayaguruguhamAdyam vEdavEdyam vItarAgiNamapramEyAdvaitapratipAdyam saHNgItavAdya vinOdatAHNDavajAta bahutara bhEdacOdyam<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Meaning:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>AnandanatanaprakAshaM - kedAraM - mishracApu</b>
<b>Pallavi:</b>
I worship the lord of citsabha, the one who displays the blissful dance. The lord/husband of Shivakaamavalli.
<b>AnuPallavi:</b>
The one who shines like crores and crores of suns. The form of that is worshipped in the dahar akasha and one who bestows enjoyment and liberation. The one skilled in protecting the weak. The one who showed his lotus-feet to the holy devotees Patanjali and vyagrapada.
<b>Charanam:</b>
The one who wears the cool-rayed moon. The one who wears the blue robe (which is the sky); the origin of kshetras beginning with kedara. The lord of the bhootas, the one who wears the tiger-skin, the one who dwells in cidambaram, the one worshipped by the 3000 dikshitas (munis), the Lord of the universe, the one whose heart melts like butter, the one who is the father of the merciful Guruguha, the one who is known by the vedas, the one devoid of hatred, the immeasurable one who is explained by advaita or monism,the one whose music, instruments and various postures of dance answers many questions.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(Here, is Bhusura = Sura of the Earth, Lord/Deva of the Earth?)

(I think I recall being told that Guruguha has a double meaning in Moothuswami Dikshitar's songs: it refers both to Guhan - Murugan, Shiva's son - and is Moothuswami's pseudonym as well. He 'signs' many of his songs this way.)

So now you can all sing along to it.
And do consider signing the petition to protect the beautiful temple dedicated to your Parents from the evils claws of the christoterrorist DMK.

Verse found on Haindava Keralam page:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><i>Karmani ave adhikars te
ma phalesu kadachana
ma karmaphal hetur bhoo
ma sangostu akramani</i>

you have the power to act only
you do not have the power to influence the result
therefore you must act without the anticipation of the result
without succumbing to inaction

<i>Sri Krishna to Arjuna</i><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<img src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/indiaforum/Nataraja.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[G.Subramaniam]

Vijayvaani
Outrage in South Asia
Koenraad Elst
23 Feb 2009
On 25 and 26 September 2008, the Paris-based South Asia Multidisciplinary Academic Journal (SAMAJ) held a conference about “outraged communities: investigating the politicisation of emotions in South Asia”. The texts of the contributed presentations have now been published in the December 2008 issue of SAMAJ (integrally on-line at http://samaj.revues.org).

Let me say first of all that the meeting was great fun, it was well-organized, intense, at a higher pace than outsiders tend to expect from the easy-living French. It offered me the opportunity to meet Djallal (André) Heuzé, whose critical but well-informed book on Hindu nationalism I once reviewed. I didn’t even realize until afterwards that the spice of sharp debate had been missing. All vocal participants seemed to be in agreement on the essentials, especially the secularist consensus that religious conflicts and “outrage” are mere masks for some socio-economic interests or for generally human motivators such as emotions.

Theological motives for such phenomena as jihad are ruled out beforehand by these social “scientists,” possibly the consequence of their inability to deal with profound ideological issues. This approach prevents them from ever understanding religious “fanatics,” for whom these ideological concerns are all-important. Thus, all those numerous analysts and commentators who have explained Islamism as a reaction to poverty or neo-colonialism have never been able to account for the involvement of wealthy Western-educated persons like Osama bin Laden, who sacrificed a life of luxury because he got serious about his religious commitment. Much less have their sociological models ever been able to explain the purely Islamic motivations expounded in the final writings of terrorists like Mohammed Atta of Twin Towers fame and Mohammed Bouyeri, murderer of Islam-critic Theo van Gogh.

The presentation, “Constructing Outraged Communities and State Responses: The Taslima Nasreen Saga in 1994 and 2007” by Ali Riaz, surprised me by actually mentioning the reason why Bangladeshi medic and novelist Taslima Nasreen has a death sentence on her head, viz. because she denounced the persecution of the Hindu minority in her novel Lajja (Shame, 1993). When she toured Europe in 1994, where trendy intellectuals tried to bask in her reflected glory of brave dissent, all the supposed quality papers (Le Monde, Der Spiegel etc.) pretended that it was her long-standing feminist positions that had brought the death sentence upon her.

In reality, while her feminism greatly displeased the Islamic clerics, it was only when she took up the cause of the hated Kafirs that they cared to sentence her to the ultimate punishment. But of course, no public figure concerned about his respectability wanted to be seen drawing attention to a case of Muslims as oppressors and Hindus as victims. It seems we have now come to a point where an India-watcher with presumably serious professional ambitions can afford to deviate from this secularist party-line. Then again, while a Muslim can afford to, for a non-Muslim it would still be harmful to his career prospects.

My undivided praise goes to Nicolas Jaoul for his talk on “the post-Khairlanji protest in Vidarbha” by SC Mahars against the murder of four fellow caste members by members of the locally dominant Kunbi OBC. In this case the protest movement was successful, leading to effective judicial punishment for the culprits as well as provoking a rise in reporting and police registering of similar complaints on caste atrocities. The campaigners demanded a full and effective death sentence for the main culprits, a demand deemed inhuman by secularists when voiced against convicted terrorists like Afzal Guru.

I understand that Hindus are tired of the outsiders’ reduction of Hinduism to caste, only caste and nothing but caste. However, the eagerness of all enemy forces, and equally of sincerely curious impartial observers, to investigate caste conflict simply reflects a really existing problem. Contrary to what you could expect in the general media in such cases, Jaoul did not conveniently blame “Hindu fundamentalism” or some such ogre. But neither did he report any constructive intervention by the organized Hindu movement. When I asked him about the role of the political parties in the Khairlanji events, he said the BJP has tried to instrumentalize the issue by blaming the ruling Rashtriya Congress Party, but that there were also personal links between some culprits and the BJP. The self-described vanguard of Hindu society had better live up to its progressive boasts and deal with this injustice on a priority basis, not opportunistically, but as a matter of principle.

Sikhism too has its instance of “outrage,” viz. against all forms of Sikhism that diverge from the line laid down by the anti-Hindu religious separatists. Here, a paper discussed the indignation in organized Sikhism over the performance by Baba Gurmeet Ram-Rahim Singh, leader of the Dera Sacha Sauda sect, impersonating Guru Govind Singh. Unlike the SC Mahars’ outrage in Khairlanji, but just like Muslim outrage over Taslima Nasreen’s work, this is an instance of a ruling group incensed by the impertinence of a dissident’s presumption of equality, not of an oppressed group revolted by the ruling class’s brutal atrocities.

One of the paper’s presenters said off-hand that the Khalistani struggle had been started in reaction to the Delhi pogrom of 1984, which killed about three thousand Sikhs. When I pointed out that that pogrom by Congress activists took place more than five years into the Khalistani struggle, her co-presenter corrected her, restating the well-known fact that it had started in the clash with the Nirankari Sikhs on Vaisakhi (13 April) 1979. That’s when the separatists attacked a Nirankari procession in Amritsar, killing some “heretics” (who acknowledge Sikhism’s Hindu roots, in contrast with the dominant separatists’ fabrication of an anti-Hindu inspiration as underlying Guru Nanak’s mission) and losing some of their own men too.

The courts released the Nirankaris arrested for killing these “Sikh martyrs” on grounds of legitimate self-defence, a verdict which the Khalistani aggressors considered a great injustice. That had been yet another instance of the dominant group in Sikhism getting “outraged” at the insolence of a non-dominant group and the indignity of getting treated as mere equals in law with their heretical opponents. So, some outrage is the underclass’ or the subalterns’ indignation at being oppressed, but some outrage is indignation at the underlings’ defiance against the prevalent power equation.

Also very interesting was the paper by Aminah Mohammed on the agitation in Lahore against the Danish cartoons. Apparently the movement openly took inspiration from the agitation in 1927 against the book Rangila Rasool, culminating in the murder of its publisher Mahashay Rajpal. The then murderer was now celebrated as a hero and role model. The demonstration was organized by Barelvi clerics, who are usually the moderates, relatively speaking, in an Islamist scene dominated by the Deoband school. Often they are the target of attacks by more militant groups, and in this case too. But their leadership role in the anti-cartoon agitation shows once more that the desire to outlaw and thwart any irreverent utterance about the Prophet is not the monopoly of “fundamentalists” but a common platform uniting the Muslim mainstream.

Christophe Jaffrelot contributed a paper on the Hindutva effort to create outrage on the Rama Setu issue. He emphasized first of all that the current initiative to make a passage in the Indo-Lankan rock formation known as Rama Setu originated with the NDA (BJP) government. Only when the whole enterprise was adopted by the new Congress-dominated government did Hindutva groups start protesting; and we too know the hollowness of much Hindutva campaigning.

Predictably he strictly ignored the one genuine cause of Hindu indignation in this context, viz. the fact that the government came out with statements denying the historicity of Rama, whereas it always takes care to pay respect to all non-Hindu myths in sight (e.g. the myth of Apostle Thomas founding the Kerala Christian community, to which secularist politicians and polemicists routinely pay lip service, even though Western scholars including Pope Benedict XVI have debunked it).

Jaffrelot gleefully described how Hindu nationalists frantically tried to create some outrage among the Hindu masses, how they had to move their planned demonstration from Tamil Nadu to Delhi for lack of a groundswell of indignation among Tamil Hindus, and how their argumentation made up for lack of religious cogency with an array of modernist (economic, ecological) considerations and purportedly scientific (NASA-produced) “evidence”. In the end it sounded more like a cabaret than a scholarly paper; he was constantly mocking the Hindutva activists whose arguments he was discussing.

Indeed, he’d be in serious trouble if he had given any other community this treatment. But with that, he was not ruffling any feathers; it was simply the mainstream view in this specialist congregation. Nobody in the panel even took the trouble of attacking Hindutva, for the demonization of Hindutva is a well-established position and needs no extra arguments. Any other evil in the South-Asian communal scene is now measured by its alleged degree of likeness to Hindutva, the acknowledged standard of evil.

At the same time, the indignation routinely implied in any mention of Hindutva is now no longer to be read as a warning of imminent danger. The bogey of “the threat of rising Hindu fanaticism” is still bandied about in the general media and in Christian missionary information channels, but insiders of the Indian Studies professions are confident that Hindu nationalism is well past its prime. They actually rejoice in seeing how the evil of Hindutva is now clearly superseded and rendered ineffective by the self-defeating incompetence or downright stupidity of Hindutva. They are confident that the combined anti-Hindu forces, such as Dalitism, the Christian Mission, Jihad, foreign-owned media and consumerism, are driving nail after nail into the coffin of Hindu resistance.

That’s not me saying so; it is only my attempt at accurately conveying an impression current among the India-watching establishment. Mentally, they are already dancing on Hindutva’s dead body.
The writer lives in Belgium; he is a renowned scholar on India

[G.Subramaniam]

Above leads me to think that xtianity is the main enemy
Hate of paganism is so high in xtianity that it will even accept islamic rule
than give up hate of paganism

The good angle is that the growing islamic presence in the west and the global economic downturn will so screw up xtianity
that it will be karmic dharmic justice

[G.Subramaniam]

The main weakness of the sangh parivar is lack of self criticism

The commies have it

The sangh parivar foolishly refuses to move with the times

What was the correct course of action during the times of Guru Golwalker and Hegdewar is no longer directly valid

Where is the hindu tv channel?
even PMK has its own tv channel

Its foolish muslim outreach programs
such as rashtriya hindu manch
Do our problem with islam solve if they become indonesian muslims?

The foolish refusal to use propoganda and media multiplier effect

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Feb 23 2009, 08:27 AM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Feb 23 2009, 08:27 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Above leads me to think that xtianity is the main enemy
Hate of paganism is so high in xtianity that it will even accept islamic rule</b>
than give up hate of paganism

The good angle is that the growing islamic presence in the west and the global economic downturn will so screw up xtianity
that it will be karmic dharmic justice
[right][snapback]94846[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->It is always hatred of paganism that drives christianism.
That is why they encourage maoism in Hindu Nepal, and communist anarchy in other Asian countries. The existence of paganism anywhere - however distant the country may be - is an unacceptability for them.
Christianism's reasoning is that islam, communism - any terrorist ideology - may have the pagan nation, anything but that it should remain pagan.

Christianism thinks that later islam and communism can be wiped out with more christian crusades and christian nazism.

Paganism is christianism's #1 enemy, always has been. Number #2 for catholicism is orthodoxy, closely followed by protestantism. Then #3 is islamism almost tied with communism.

This has to do with both level of heresy as well as extent of resistance put up. Pagans put up the most formidable resistance: they tend to be inconvertibles in the truest sense. And christianism forever remembers Rome and Greece.
And also, there can be no renewed dark ages - a christian objective, since it means absolute power - without complete destruction of all Paganism. The world is global now, it's not like the middle ages when christians of Europe knew of nothing else: people now can see there are lights elsewhere. Until the remaining lights are extinguished, a total darkness cannot be imposed.

[G.Subramaniam]

I think NRI hindus must do outreach
and in anycase build up strong diaspora like the jews

[HareKrishna]

<!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Feb 23 2009, 08:27 AM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Feb 23 2009, 08:27 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Above leads me to think that xtianity is the main enemy
Hate of paganism is so high in xtianity that it will even accept islamic rule
than give up hate of paganism

The good angle is that the growing islamic presence in the west and the global economic downturn will so screw up xtianity
that it will be karmic dharmic justice
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Vatican for the islamisation of the west?
Better muslim then atheist(nonreligioius),better atheist then budhist,better buddhist then hindu(the most pagan among pagans);so they think.

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Feb 23 2009, 08:24 AM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Feb 23 2009, 08:24 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Vijayvaani

Outrage in South Asia     
Koenraad Elst
23 Feb 2009[right][snapback]94844[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->There's a comment by Shrikant G. Talageri there:
http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayAr...spx?id=400
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is true, unfortunately, that the combined anti-Hindu forces, such as Dalitism, the Christian Mission, Jihad, foreign-owned media and consumerism, are driving nail after nail into the coffin of Hindu resistance. Hindus may end up, in the long run, as a small elite westernized world minority spread out over the western world, like the Jews (but minus their power and tenacity). In India itself, within less thn a century, they will become almost extinct, though they may still remain in small numbers like Zoroastrians in Iran. If the enemies of Hindutva, Hinduism and Hindu Civilization are gleefully gloating over this prospect, they certainly have reason to do so. True Hindus, of couse, must and will keep resisting to the bitter end; but (even at the risk of sounding obsessed and repetitive) so long as their only hopes are placed in our so-called "saffron brigade", they must be ready to face ever-worsening odds. It is this saffron brigade which, when in power, opened to the full the floodgates of resistance to foreign-owned media and consumerism in India, because of which today's emerging generations in India are turning into totally westernized clones in thought, culture and commitment. I still remember with a shudder the gleeful "I-defy-anyone-to-try-and-stop-us" expressions with which the BJP ministers, when in power, introduced pro-American, pro-capitalist and pro-consumerist laws and measures, one after the other. As Sushma Swaraj, the "saffron" I & B minister, gloatingly announced when allowing massive foreign participation in the Indian media, "Foreign participation in the Indian media is an idea whose time has come". We had Gopinath Munde, BJP deputy CM of Maharashtra, soliciting TV viewers to buy audio-cassettes of a ghazal collection whose proceeds would be donated to Mother Teresa's mission! The record of our "saffron brigade" when in power was not just one of self-defeating incompetence or downright stupidity, but of outright treachery and Quislingism.   
  Shrikant G Talageri 
  24 Feb 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->And another:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is no point crying over spilt milk. Yes, Hindus trusted the BJP and the RSS to protect the Hindu nation and these two failed us. But before we engage in singing the dirge on this funeral, let us wonder if another Hindu Revival movement is possible, one that is intellegent, competent and media savvy. Hindu revivalism is not restricted to only the RSS and its ilk. It rests with a whole host of other organizations, teachers, philosophers etc. As far as a political movement, maybe it is time for more than one Hindu party to exist in India. Talageri is absolutely right in pointing out how the BJP shot itself in the foot by allowing so many foreign stakeholders in our media. It is extremely dangerous from a nationalist perspective to let foreigners take charge of the dissemination of information. 
  K. Harapriya 
  25 Feb 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In this I differ with Talageri:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindus may end up, in the long run, as a small elite westernized world minority spread out over the western world, like the Jews (but minus their power and tenacity). In India itself, within less thn a century, they will become almost extinct, though they may still remain in small numbers like Zoroastrians in Iran.
...
If the enemies of Hindutva, Hinduism and Hindu Civilization are gleefully gloating over this prospect, they certainly have reason to do so. True Hindus, of couse, must and will keep resisting to the bitter end;
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->But they are <i>already</i> extinct in the western world. And almost completely extinct in the Angelsk-speaking kind as well (I tend to make an exception for the likes of Sandhya - check out her Veer Savarkar article - and Radha).
There are still Hindus (Talageri uses the phrase 'True Hindus' above; Wieso, gibt es denn auch unechte?) in very large numbers - they are in Bharatam. Scattered all over the country. They tend to be those villagers in Mangaluru that just don't get why christopubs are springing up all over the place, or the Rajput (?) villages like where the last sensationalised Sati took place - Rup Kanwar? - and who didn't understand what the christomedia's insinuations were about, or in Orissa where they're doing their best to defend themselves against christoterrorism (Dara Singh, as well as the many people who more recently stuck up for their Swami Lakshmanananda and other Orissa Hindu leaders murdered by christianism=terrorism), or the Hindu Bodo leader Bineshwar Brahma who was also murdered by christoterrorism. Further examples include M Venkatesan of TN, Sumitra who in spite of christoterrorism would not convert, and Kailash "Shravan Kumar" Giri and his mother. They are the real inconvertibles, because they are the insubvertibles.


<b>ADDED:</b>
Yes, her name was Rup Kanwar, and she - as also her villagers - do seem to be Rajput:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->From this distance we do not want to judge the true facts of the Rup Kanwar case. <b>Most people in Deorala, and most Rajputs,</b> have steadily remained believing in the authenticity of this sati and in the innocence of Rup Kanwar’s in-laws. The anti-sati expressions due to the press, the government and some judges are discarded by them as a smear-campaign by prejudiced city-dwellers who do not wish to understand anything of the heroic <b>Rajput-code</b>.
(It's not city-dwellers "who do not wish to understand". It's only non-Hindus who don't.)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(Translated from http://koenraadelst.voi.org/articles/dutch/sati.htm, section "Rup Kanwar: wat we niet weten", 4th para. My comment in purple.)

[Guest]

<b>From Roja to Slumdog - the metamorphosis of Dilip Kumar Mudaliar turned A.R.Rahman</b>

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Insult of Hindu deities in history textbook</b>
DU Vice Chancellor summoned in Punjab court

Dr Deepak Pental, Vice Chancellor of Delhi University, was summoned by the court of Sub Divisional Magistrate Shri Rakesh Kumar in Dera Bassi, Punjab. Dr Pental has to appear before the court on April 22. He has been summoned for hurting the sentiments of Hindus in an article<b>, ‘Three Hundred Ramayanas’, being taught in Delhi University to the students of BA (Hons) second year as part of a history book Culture in India: Ancient</b>. The article contains highly objectionable contents insulting Sri Ram, Sita, Hanuman, Lakshman and other Hindu gods and goddesses. The complaint in this case had been filed by Shri Anil Bali of Dera Bassi on June 13, 2008.

It is to be noted that Shiksha Bachao Andolan Samiti and some other Hindu social and religious organisations have been protesting against the objectionable textbook being taught in Delhi University and the matter was taken up in Supreme Court also. But Dr Deepak Pental, Vice Chancellor, was not even ready to listen to the grievances of the people. Prime Minister<b> Dr Manmohan Singh’s daughter, Dr Upinder Singh, is head of the History Department in the University</b>.

“From the allegations contained in the complaint and the preliminary evidences led by the complaint in support thereof, a prima facie case is made out against the accused (Dr Deepak Pental, Vice Chancellor of Delhi University) for alleged commission of an offence punishable under Section 153-A, 295-A and 298 of the IPC. Accordingly, the accused is ordered to be summoned to face trial for the alleged commission of an offence for April 22, 2009,” the Magistrate said in his order announced on March 7. According to sources, the summon order has been served to Dr Pental.

The controversial book contains very abusive and libellous language used for <b>divine Hindu deities by addressing Lord Hanuman as ‘Henchman’ and ‘Tiny Monkey’, etc. The names of other Hindu deities have also been changed like as humiliated language. The contents were un-authentic, malice and banned under the law. Sita was stated as ‘unfaithful’. “The intention of the article was predetrimental. The complainant was also aggrieved to know that many false stories were quoted under one pretext or the other. This was matter of concern that popular beliefs and prevailing traditions of Hindu culture are projected in distorted manner,”</b> the Magistrate states in his order.
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[acharya]

<b>Hindus Protest PS2 Game Released in India
April 17, 2009
</b>
Sony, which has dealt with religious controversies surrounding Resistance: Fall of Man and Little Big Planet in recent times, faces a new faith-based challenge to a game designed for the PlayStation 2.

Hanuman: Boy Warrior, the first console game developed entirely in India, has sparked a protest by some Hindus, according to Web Newswire. The homegrown PS2 title was created for the Indian market by Aurona Technologies Limited, a firm based in Hyderabad.

U.S.-based Hindu spokesman Rajan Zed (left) criticized the game for trivializing the Hindu deity:

Zed... argued that reimagining Hindu scriptures and deities for commercial or other agenda was not okay as it hurt the [religion's] devotees. Controlling and manipulating Lord Hanuman with a joystick/ button/keyboard/mouse was denigration. Lord Hanuman was not meant to be reduced to just a “character” in a video game to solidify company/products base in the growing economy of India.

Rajan Zed further said that as a PlayStation2 video game, Lord Hanuman would be in the company of America's 10 Most Wanted, Bad Boys, Barbie, Britney's Dance Beat, First Kiss Stories, Guitar Freaks, Jackass, Killer7, Looney Tunes, Mafia, Mercenaries, Midnight Club, Mister Mosquito, Nicktoons, Psychonauts, Scooby Doo, Truckers, etc...



Zed suggested that India and all other countries of the world should come up with national content rating organizations for video games... [and said that] Video game makers should be more sensitive while handling faith related subjects...

Religious considerations aside, Hanuman was tagged with an awful review by Indian site Tech2:

The game boasts of being the first ever Indian game to be released on the PlayStation 2; if Indian developers are going to develop this sort of crap for consoles, let's hope it's the last.

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<b>How Vrindavana is Losing its Cows to Slaughter
</b>

source: http://news.iskcon.com/node/1975

Subhangi Devi Dasi lives in Vrindavan India. Recently she was awoken early in the morning to witness a site none of us would even dream could be happening. Krishna’s cows are being violently kidnapped in the night. It is believed the cows are killed and sold for their flesh and leather products.

“I was sleeping,” Subhangi Devi Dasi says. “At 2.00 am I hear cows crying, people screaming and yelling. I run out to my balcony and see a truck backing away and cows franticly running in all directions down the lanes, all crying. I have never seen that in Vrindavan.”

Subhangi was witnessing the kidnapping of the local cows. “Then I see some local men throwing stones at the trucks and swearing in Hindi, some other men came with machetes and one with a rifle,” Subhangi says. These men were coming to protect the cows “The truck backed out of the road and drove off.”

Arjuna, one of the men trying to protect the cows says the kidnappers came with several trucks. “They caught and stole 48 cows just here in this area,” he says. “The men were ruthless, throwing the cows in the back of their trucks, beating then and in some cases killing them if they were resisting,” Arjuna says. “Blood was everywhere.”

Villagers say the kidnappers are armed attack anyone who tries to stop them. “A month or so back.” Arjuna says. “The police put up barricades to try to stop the kidnappers. That night they rammed the barricades with their trucks.”

“It is so out of control,” says Arjuna. “Vrindavan is the land of cows and these demons have become aware that there are so many cows and goshallas just ripe for the picking.” The locals are helpless. They can do little without risking their own lives.

It is reported that 15 days ago, when the police tried to stop them, the kidnappers rammed a police jeep. A policeman fired a shot and he got a rock in the head for his effort. It is reported that he police had to pull back as there were only four of them, whilst there were eight heavily armed kidnappers. “They criminals seem to be aware of how much resistance they will encounter and come prepared to meet it.;” Arjuna says.

“Sometimes they brick the cows in the head with rocks and sometimes shoot them or hack them with machetes if they resist,” says Arjuna. “They used to come in one truck now they travel with four trucks at a time.”

Subhangi Devi Dasi says she has heard the cows can fetch up to 10,000 rupees. It is no wonder kidnappers are armed and are prepared to injure even the police. Villagers who to try to prevent the kidnappings are said to be placing themselves and their families in a very dangerous situation.

Devotees and well wishers should contact Uttar Pradesh government ministers and demand action be taken against those who kidnap and kill cows. Kumari Mayawati is the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh. Letters can be faxed to Minister Mayawati at the following fax number: +91 522 2237620.

Kidnapping of cows is a criminal offence In Vrindavan. Residents of Vrindavan say the villagers and cows need support and protection whilst the need resources to stop and catch those who prey on the cows.

You can also call Minister Mayawati directly on +91 522 2235733. If you wish you can send your letter by email to dontkillcows@gmail.com. All the letters sent to this email address will be collated and presented to Minister Mayawati with a petition asking her government to take action.

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<b>Hunt on for culture boss</b> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->New Delhi, June 4: Wanted, a culture minister who can help weed out the ideological remnants of the NDA regime
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Sources said with a renewed mandate, the UPA government was expected to look at the way NDA appointees to cultural institutions allegedly tweaked evidence to suit the RSS’s version of history.

For example, in 2000, <b>the National Museum in its catalogue for a new Harappan gallery, had endorsed the Sangh’s claim that the Harappan and Vedic civilisations were one and the same. The idea, sources said, was to demonstrate the “indigenity” of Hinduism vis-à-vis Islam and Christianity.</b>

<b>The claim was based on a letter written by N.S. Rajaram who had co-authored a book, The Deciphered Indus Script. The book was debunked by well-known Indologist Michael Witzel and comparative historian Steve Farmer </b><!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whenever there names appears, it just reminds me how Steve was scared of me and ran inside toilet after saying he is wrong and stupid. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Only I missed to provide his thesis to subsitutue toilet paper.

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So India will be run by what some professors outside think about India. Shame.

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<!--QuoteBegin-Swamy G+Jun 5 2009, 11:56 PM-->QUOTE(Swamy G @ Jun 5 2009, 11:56 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->So India will be run by what some professors outside think about India. Shame.
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Steve Farmer is unemployed leftist and Witzel can't speak Sanskrit, but hey Ho !!! skin color, white does matter when it comes to Indian intelligia and Babudom.

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<b>India to boost beef production</b>

Indian beef production is predicted to increase by 5% in 2009.

This is reported to be due to strong export demand and rising domestic consumption (ZMP and Brazilian Meat Monitor).

Exports to South East Asia mainly According to reports, production of mainly buffalo meat is set to rise to approximately 2.7 million tonnes. Around a third of production (850,000 tonnes) is predicted to be exported, mainly to South East Asia and the Gulf states.

Australian beef face competition In such markets where Australian and Indian product co-exist, Australian beef faces considerable price competition from Indian buffalo beef.

There is major potential for India to significantly increase production because of the current low level of technology across the supply chain.

<b>Currently, India is considered the world’s third biggest beef exporter in terms of volume, behind Brazil and Australia.</b>

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<!--emo&:thumbdown--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>Three Muslims appointed to Amarnath panel, samiti objects</b>
Posted by jagoindia on June 23, 2009
<b>Samiti objects to three Muslims on Amarnath panel</b>
Ishfaq-ul-Hassan / DNA Tuesday, June 23, 2009

Srinagar: Jammu and Kashmir governor NN Vohra has appointed three Muslims to the 13-member Shri Amarnath Yatra Advisory Committee for a smooth conduction of the yatra. But the committee is yet to meet, as the Shri Amarnath Sangharsh Samiti (SASS) has objected to inclusion of Muslims in the committee.

The samiti, which spearheaded the agitation for restoration of 39.88 hectares of forestland to the board last year, called the move “undesirable and unnecessary”. “The SASB Act clearly states that if a governor is non-Hindu, he has to nominate a Hindu to head the board. Taking it as a premise, how can a non-Hindu be part of Hindu religious body? Similarly no non-Muslim should be part of Muslim body,” said samiti convener Brig (retd) Suchet Singh.

This is the first time that the governor, who is also the board chairman, has nominated Muslims to the committee ever since the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board (SASB) Act was passed.

The three Muslims are namely Lateef Ahmad Bhat, Mohammed Jabbar Malik and Dr Mubeen Shah.
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http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...880&SKIN=K
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Ravi Varma Paintings missing from the hands of Irresponsible Kerala Govt.</b>
29/06/2009 10:48:19 

Ravi Varma's kin wants paintings back to rekindle his museum

www.kaumudi.com

T’PURAM: Strange as it may seem, the home museum of renowned painter Raja Ravi Varma at Kilimanoor Place near here does not have a single original of the maestro on display and his descendents want back some of his paintings currently with the state museum to rekindle its glorious past where he was born and learnt the art before attaining fame.

Pained by the absence of originals, descendants of the legendary artist have sought a probe to trace and restore some of the precious works of their illustrious relative to the gallery, which displayed only the prints of his paintings.

Ravi Varma, known for his vivid and graceful depiction of scenes from Hindu epics, was born in a royal house of Kilimanoor, some 30 km north of here, in 1848. A prolific artist, he left hundreds of oil paintings before he died on October 2,1906. Hundreds of paintings and sketches left by him are scattered in galleries and private collections in India.

The Palace Trust, which looks after the home museum, recently lodged a complaint with police, seeking a probe to trace some invaluable works of the artist, either missing or remaining unaccounted for having changed hands over the decades.

The family claims that as many as 75 paintings of the master were handed over by the Travancore Royal administration in 1940, which had been transferred to the Kerala Government after Independence.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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Mangalore: Shiva idol desecrated

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->MANGALORE, July 17, 2009: A beautiful idol of Lord Shiva has been desecrated  by miscreants at the Pandeshwar Katte near the Mangalore South Police Station. The Idol which had been consecrated there by some youth group was badly damaged, according to the initial investigations the idol has been ripped open with the help of boulders, they were thrown at the idol at a great speed with the intention of destroying it.

The local people who came to know about the incident gathered there in big numbers and many people were saying so many things and the tempers were rising uncontrolabaly. But the police arrived there in time and dispersed the crowd and appealed to the people not to air any opinions and take law into their hands. They said they will investigate about the matter and take the culprits into custody. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Clement, India  Jul 18, 2009
Divide & Rule policy was started by "MAJORITY THEMSELVES" by discriminating castewise system saying: that caste, this caste, low caste, high caste etc etc etc (like this thousand castes we can find in India) and not by British or Mughals. This discrimination & untouchability had started since the centuries not new thing and this was the reason to form various communities in India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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Mangalore: Shiva idol desecrated

<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Clement</b>, India  Jul 18, 2009
Divide & Rule policy was started by "MAJORITY THEMSELVES" by discriminating castewise system saying: that caste, this caste, low caste, high caste etc etc etc (like this thousand castes we can find in India) and not by British or Mughals. This discrimination & untouchability had started since the centuries not new thing and this was the reason to form various communities in India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[right][snapback]99748[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Look how the christoterrorists turn every incident of christoislamic terrorism into a "Hindus deserved it/did it to themselves" story. The way the christomedia did with the train torching in Gujarat.
Well, what can ya do. It's christianism. The non-existent spook jeebus inspires them.

How very christian of the christoislamic commenters at mangalorean.com who try to blame Hindu groups for desecrating Hindu vigrahas themselves. As if any Hindu would. Only christians do that: e.g. http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=57924
March 19, 2009, <b>Mangalore</b> - Christian Sinster agenda exposed: Seven christians Arrested for Damaging Church Property and trying to frame Hindu groups for it.

There is also this useful comment at mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=135652:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Raj, what I meant was 20 people are dying in railway tracks just when trying to cross the tracks everyday in Mumbai alone and we cannot do anything about that. There is no British involvement here nor Sonia factor.

In a way you have to be thankful to the British for giving railway system and of course English language due to which you are able to compete and learn things around you and moreoever insult us.

<b>Before insulting Christians you need to realise this website was created by Catholic enthusiasts primarily to cater to Mangalorean catholics dispersed around the world. In the spirit of democracy your views are graciously allowed on this site and instead of appreciating you take the liberty to insult our religion.</b>

One Mr DP Kumar has beautifully explained that the plaster must have loosened due to rainy season resulting a part being slipped. It is common during monsoons plasters like this develop cracks. Yet you took the opportunity to accuse us without any evidence whatsoever.
(What? Like the arms of the vigrahas and statues of Greek Gods "fell off by themselves" due to "arms being extremities"? Never mind that there is enough first hand eye-witness documentation and later research to show that the christians of yore perpetrated most of it.
It's the old Jesuitry. Like the 'Hindus in the train in Gujarat spontaneously combusted excuse'. And 'the Hindus neglected their own temples' even though the christist robbers in charge took over the Temples and taxed them to destruction. "The Hindus *chose* to leave the North East". And other such.)

You talk about taking care of your community but you are dependant on sites created by Christians that has a broader appeal.
(Well, the christian parasite has taken over all Hindu media outlets as well. E.g. The Christist/The Chindu, evangelising slots on Doordarshan, etcetera.)
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The christoislami comments on this item at mangalorean.com are all about making the matter unresolvable: creating 'reasonable doubt' to get themselves off the hook. That's what christianism is good at.
E.g. "the Persian weapon that pierced Julian's back". Such a miracle! But it was wielded by christian hands of course (christian soldiers had already attempted Emperor Julian's life earlier), the Persianness of it was just a diversion for deniability again.
This style of christian lying has a long history.


http://freetruth.50webs.org/
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Greek called them "swinish black-cloths", because "they looked like men but lived like pigs".
A contemporary writer tells us

    "armed with clubs or stones and swords they ran to the temples, some without these weapons only with their bare hands and feet"
    -- (Libanios "Pro temples" 389 AD)

As soon as they had destroyed one temple, they dashed away to the next. They toppled over walls, <b>smashed idols, statues</b> and art-objects and altars, and stole the temples wealth for themselves. [Link] http://www.bandoli.no/tolerance.htm<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->It's what christians do. That, and rewriting history to absolve themselves of all blame and turn themselves into the victims.