Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan 2

09-23-2008, 10:44 AM

Did Pakistan soldiers shoot at US helicopters? QUOTEISLAMABAD, Pakistan - U.S. helicopters flew into Pakistan's militant-infested border region, but returned to Afghanistan after troops and tribesmen opened fire, intelligence officials said Monday. Washington denied the account.

Naresh · (This post was last modified: 09-23-2008, 03:45 PM by Naresh.)

QUOTE(thayilv @ Sep 23 2008, 02:45 AM)Nareshji,

Â Â Â Â Â Â You and I are on the same page pretty much. I still believe that we need to tap into the the resources (money/connections) these 'creme de la excrement' as you put it have.

Ultimately, these ppl are going to do what in their money's best interest. If we can develop a pressure point on that, I believe we can use it to effectively curtail some of their shenanigans.

Having their money in India is the easiest way to develop this. Ofcourse, this will have to be carefully balanced to make sure that it does not become dangerous, but I believe we can manage it.

Since they have links in the pak military establishment, they are an excellent target for intelligence agencies. Having a mole on the inside could definitely give us an edge.
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thayilv Ji :

As an Enemy I would term you âInnocentâ but as a Friend I would term you as âNaÃ¯veâ.

Seemingly we are not on the same Page but the Distance between us can be compared to the Distance between the Earth and the Star Shaula.

You expect the Terroristanis to Earn and then keep their Money in India?

You also expect a Terroristani to give their Countryâs Intelligence to India??

Have you ever heard of Terroristani Muslims spying for India??? - No way JosÃ¨!

However, we have many, many Hindus in India spying for Terroristan!!

Wake up and Smell the Coffee!!!

Prudence forces me to remain Polite!!!!

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Naresh · 09-23-2008, 09:37 PM

Pakistani spies hear al Qaeda celebrating blast

Simon Cameron-Moore Reuters - Tuesday, September 23 11:06 am

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - An Islamist group that claimed responsibility for bombing the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad had not previously been heard of, but Pakistani intelligence eavesdroppers heard al Qaeda operatives celebrating the attack.

The suicide truck bomb that killed at least 53 people and gutted the hotel on Saturday has raised fresh fears about worsening security in Pakistan, a nuclear-armed key U.S. ally.

A group calling itself Fedayeen Islam (Partisans of Islam) claimed responsibility in a call to an Islamabad-based correspondent for al Arabiya, an Arab news channel.

"It's either new or it might be a distraction," said a senior intelligence officer. "What we do know is that there was a lot of celebration among the lower ranks of al Qaeda."

The group issued several demands, including that Pakistan ends cooperation with the United States, Arabiya said.

Such calls will fuel worry among many Pakistanis who say the alliance with the United States incites militant violence and Pakistan should not be fighting "America's war."

On Tuesday the military said troops backed by artillery and helicopter gunships killed 50 militants in Darra Adam Kheil, a tribal region close to the north-western city of Peshawar. Ten more militants were killed in Swat, a north-western valley.

The army has also launched a major offensive in the Bajaur region on the Afghan border, and said hundreds of militants have been killed there since late August.

Despite this, the United States has shown impatience that not enough was being done. Missile attacks by pilotless drone aircraft against militants on the Pakistani side of the border have multiplied.

Pakistan warned its ally to desist after the United States launched a commando raid that killed 20 people, including women and children, in a border village on September 3, the first operation by U.S. ground troops on Pakistani territory.

Pakistani troops have opened fire twice since to force U.S. helicopters to turn back to Afghan airspace.

The latest incident was on Sunday, according to a security official, though there has been no official confirmation.

President Asif Ali Zardari is due to hold talks with U.S. President George W. Bush in New York on Tuesday.

In an interview in the United States aired on Pakistani television, Zardari said cross-border actions on Pakistani territory complicated the situation.

"Give us the intelligence and we'll do the job," he said.

"It's better done by our forces than yours because if you do incursions, the constituency which I'm trying to appease, they'll take it as a foreign war," he told his American interviewer.

Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said this week the government should reject U.S. pressure, halt offensives and negotiate peace.

DESPERATE FOR CASH

Some analysts saw the Marriott attack helping to convince people that it was Pakistan's war, not just America's.

The United States is Pakistan's biggest aid donor and its support will be crucial if Pakistan is to avoid bankruptcy.

Moody's Investor Service downgraded the outlook on Pakistani debt to negative on Tuesday.

"It remains unclear how Pakistan would rebuild its external liquidity in the medium-term, unless either considerably larger amounts of foreign assistance were disbursed, or foreign investor sentiment improved sharply," Moody's analyst Aninda Mitra said.

The rupee has lost 21.2 percent against the dollar this year and is trading around all-time lows. The main stock index has lost about 35 percent this year and had been propped up by a floor since last month.

Compounding a sense of crisis, gunmen kidnapped Afghanistan's top diplomat to Pakistan, Abdul Khaliq Farahi, after killing his driver in an ambush on Monday in Peshawar.

Afghan Defence Minister Abdul Rahim Wardak said on Monday Pakistan and Afghanistan were discussing a joint force to combat militants on both sides of their border. A Pakistani military spokesman said he was not aware of any such proposal.

(Additional reporting by Augustine Anthony and Kamran Haider; Editing by Alex Richardson)

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09-24-2008, 07:57 PM

B Raman on Pak Marriott Hotel blasts
QUOTESince 9/11, the Marriott Hotel Chain has been the victim of six terrorist strikes mounted by Al Qaeda and pro-Al Qaeda jihadi terrorist organisations. On four occasions---- thrice in Islamabad and once in Jakarta--- it was directly targeted. On the remaining two occasions (New York and Karachi) it was a collateral victim of a terrorist strike not directly targeting it.

09-24-2008, 10:21 PM

B.Raman came out with another dud. They target Marriot because westerners stay in these known chain. Plane and simple.

Naresh · 09-25-2008, 03:43 AM

US has right to hit targets inside Pakistan : Gates

*US defence secretary says crossing border in pursuance of terrorists not against UN charter
* Hopes for stronger partnership with Zardari

WASHINGTON : The United States has a right to act against terrorist targets in Pakistan, but the new civilian government in Islamabad has to be âa willing partnerâ, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates said on Tuesday.

âI think it is essential for Pakistan to be a willing partner in any strategy we have to deal with the threat coming out of its western part and the eastern part of Afghanistan,â Gates said at a hearing of Senate Armed Services Committee.

UN charter: Gates said that in his view, the United Nations charter allowed the US to act in self-defence against international terrorists in Pakistan if the government was unable, or unwilling to deal with them.

âI will say to you, though, we will do what is necessary to protect our troops, but it is very important to engage the Pakistani government. I think the threat that they are seeing, threats to themselves, creates the opportunity where we can work together and there is no necessity for us to take any actions to protect our troops along those lines,â he said.

Partnership: Gates said that the Marriott Hotel bombing in Islamabad clearly showed that the US and Pakistan faced a common threat, and expressed hope for âan even stronger partnershipâ with President Asif Ali Zardari than with his predecessor, General Â® Pervez Musharraf.

However, stepped up unilateral US missile strikes on Taliban and Al Qaeda safe havens in Pakistanâs Tribal Areas have strained relations between the two countries.

President Zardari on Saturday vowed that Pakistan would not tolerate violations of its sovereignty.

Gates said there were signs of improved co-operation with the Pakistanis despite the frictions. afp

My Query : Does US defence secretary says crossing border in pursuance of terrorists not against UN charter mean that India should be able to cross the Border into Pakistan in peruance of Pakistani Islamic Jehadi Terrorists ?

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Naresh · 09-25-2008, 06:12 PM

Pakistanâs Foreign reserves decline by $89.2 million

KARACHI: The foreign exchange reserves of the country declined by $89.2 million to remain at $8.82 billion.

According to State Bank of Pakistan (SBP), the foreign exchange reserves of the country reached the level of $8.82 billion in the week that ended on September 20.

A break up of the foreign reserves shows that the SBP holds $5.40 billion while $3.41billion are with the commercial banks.

According to Governor SBP Shamshad Akhter, the foreign exchange reserves would not be allowed to drop below two months import bills. For this purpose, SBP has purchased dollars on large scale

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Naresh · 09-26-2008, 02:42 AM

[center]US suspends consular services in Pakistan[/center]

WASHINGTON : The United States has suspended visa services at consular offices in Pakistan citing deepening concerns over security in the wake of the deadly bombing of the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad, the State Department said.

"Consular services have been temporarily suspended as of today (Thursday)," State Department spokesman Robert Wood said.

"We are very concerned about the security situation. We had the attack on the Marriott Hotel almost a week ago, and it's of great concern," he said.

A suicide bomber rammed a truck packed with more than half a tonne of explosives into the security gates of the Marriott Hotel in the Pakistani capital on Saturday, killing at least 60 people, including two US military personnel assigned to the US embassy and the Czech ambassador to Pakistan.

More than 250 people were wounded in the blast.

Wood stressed that the suspension of consular services was only temporary and would not affect emergency services for US citizens in Pakistan.

US consular offices in Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar and Islamabad were affected by the suspension.

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Shambhu · 09-26-2008, 02:59 AM

AoA!!

Now how will pious Muslims from the pious land get to the US? Who will buy paintball guns? Who will drive taxi cabs?

Naresh · 09-26-2008, 05:05 PM

Bahawalpur : six dead, several wounded in train blast

BAHAWALPUR : At least six persons have been killed while several others wounded in a train blast near Bahawalpur today (Friday).

According to initial reports reaching here, two bogies of train derailed following the blast, killing at least six people including woman and three children and inuring several others.

Sources said that injured, said to be in critical condition, have been rushed to Victoris Hospital in Bahawalpur while rescue teams have also been sent to the accident place.

According to police sources, explosives were planted under the railway lines which damaged two bogies. Several people are still trapped in the boggies meanwhile, train service has been suspended on this track after the blast.

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09-28-2008, 10:42 AM

Nine die in fresh Dera Bugti gunbattle 

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How Muslim kill each other? Islam religion of peace and all are brothers. WHat is happening here. They are taking chicken shot.

09-28-2008, 10:46 AM

Current situation in Pakistan -

Fake firing on US forces, - just to show they are strong
Zardari wants to give hug to Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin.
Zardari is still in US. I hope he will spare some bars.
Bugti started killing Punjabi Fauji.
Punjabi Fauji are killing Bugti.

Naresh · (This post was last modified: 09-28-2008, 02:29 PM by Naresh.)

QUOTE(Mudy @ Sep 28 2008, 10:46 AM)Current situation in Pakistan -

Fake firing on US forces, - just to show they are strong
*Zardari wants to give hug to Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin.
Zardari is still in US. I hope he will spare some bars.
Bugti started killing Punjabi Fauji.
Punjabi Fauji are killing Bugti.
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Mudy Ji :

* : Zardari thinks Sarah Palin is "Khusboo the Goat"

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Naresh · (This post was last modified: 09-28-2008, 09:23 PM by Naresh.)

[center]Iraq-like green zones being set up[/center]

ISLAMABAD : Authorities are seriously considering setting up Iraq and Kabul-like green zones in the federal and provincial capitals to prevent terrorist attacks, The News has learnt.

In another move to block money flowing to terrorist groups and organisations, the government is thinking of abolishing all exemptions allowed to people for keeping unexplained money, either for getting it taxed or otherwise.

An Interior Ministry source told The News that sensitive parts of the federal and provincial capitals would be turned into green zones in the weeks, if not in days to come. He added that offices would soon be listed for relocating to such green zones, if they were deemed sensitive and were operating outside the declared safe territory, in at least five major towns of the country.

That would mean the Iraq and Kabul-like green zones where entry would be restricted and scanning would be conducted on all the inlets and even at the gates of the sensitive-declared buildings.

âImplements, accessories and instruments, etc, required for this purpose are being imported in bulk,â said the source. He added that the Marriot attack had opened the eyes of the authorities to the need for taking such a drastic action.

The source said the British High Commission and the US embassy were already in contact with the authorities on the latest proposal to chop off the staffs at their respective missions, an undertaking for reducing security threats to their men and women on jobs in Pakistan.The source added that these missions were seriously considering sending back the women staff for security reasons.

He also revealed that the US and European missions had already expedited the exercise of calling in their respective experts helping in reducing the terror-related fear stress.On the other hand, the abolition of keeping unexplained incomes has already been initiated, a senior tax official explained. âThe fresh step, however, shall not hamper the operation of money-whitener schemes floated by the government, which are available until December 31, 2008,â said a senior tax official.

He said the last ThursdayâÃÃ´s step taken to get the salaried peopleâs âother income sourcesâ declared was meant not just for taxing such income in future.âÃÃºIt is the beginning of an end to the facility available in Pakistan to people that could be suspected of financing terror activity, directly or indirectly,â he said.

In this connection, a number of experts are already conducting the exercise in some of the missions, he added.The official, while explaining how a sizeable part of the income-earning population was off the source-explaining list, said the terror experts who worked on the financial side of the issue recently visited the FBR and other finance-related institutions and handed over the authorities manuals that would help in preventing transfers of the unexplained incomes to the terrorist circles.

About six months ago, when they arrived in Islamabad and activated a programme of awareness creation in this connection, we were not alerted, he said. But now, he said, the higher officials were talking about measures to guard the sources of income which remain unexplained, so that tapping them should help prevent terror-financing, directly or indirectly.

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Naresh · 09-28-2008, 11:46 PM

[center]U.S. permitted to launch only limited action : Kasuri [/center]

KARACHI : Former foreign minister, Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri has said that Pakistan permitted the U.S. to launch only limited action within its territory.

Speaking in Geo News programme âJawab Dehâ, Khurshid Kasuri said it was not possible to allow U.S. to go to the extent that the latter wanted.

Regarding Kashmir issue, he said âIndia does not even want to see the face of Kashmiri leaders let alone holding dialogue with themâ.

âOnly U.S. is the real sovereign state in the world,â Kasuri said in reply to a question.

He said the war on terror will end immediately if we let Taliban establish their rule in Pakistan.

âPakistan troops were trained to fight Indian troops and for guerilla war they will have to undergo fresh trainingâ.

The former foreign minister said Pakistan will also be able to get civil nuclear technology.

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Naresh · 09-29-2008, 12:31 AM

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International efforts are under way to stop Pakistan from defaulting on its debts after its foreign reserves dropped to just $3bn.

With about $1bn a month needed to provide its people with basic requirements there are fears that Pakistan could run out of money before the end of the year.

Saquib Sherani, the economic adviser to Yusuf Reza Gilani, Pakistan's prime minister, said on Sunday that the country urgently needed about $7bn to bridge the expected financing gap for the year.

"Its large and we need it quite fast ... the reserves are down to covering one month of imports," he told Al Jazeera.

"We started talking in June with our development partners but unfortunately the delay has cost Pakistan quite a bit."

Foreign ministers of Pakistan's major donors agreed on Friday to form a partnership with Islamabad "to develop a comprehensive and co-ordinated approach to the security, development, and political needs of the border".

'Friends of Pakistan'

The so-called Friends of Pakistan acknowledged the need for the country "to undertake serious economic reform and agreed to look at improved trade access for Pakistan to their markets", according to a statement issued at the end of the meeting.

The group includes Britain, France, Germany, the US, China, the UAE, Canada, Turkey, Australia and Italy plus the UN and the European Union.

However, the donors did not pledge any financial assistance and another meeting will now take place in the UAE capital Abu Dhab in October.

Sherani said it was in every country's interests for Pakistan to receive the support it was appealling for.

"Pakistan is the central front in the war against terror, internationally, and you cannot have such a vital country go down, its economy go down the way it would without support, he said.

"If this trend continues, and Pakistan is not able to get a handle on it, then certainly it will be a big, big victory for the elements that want to destabilise Pakistan."

Security fears

More than 50 people were killed in a lorry-bomb explosion at the Marriot Hotel in the Pakistani capital Islamabad on Saturday and Haroon Sharif, an economic policy expert, told Al Jazeera that the security situation has "a tremendous impact" on the cost of doing business.

"The security budgets have really gone up, the travel advisory and the frequency of travel will go down," he said.

"People will call Pakistani entrepreneurs to go to places like Dubai or Thailand to do deals."

Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder, reporting from Islamabad, said that Pakistanis were already reeling under the pressure of spiralling prices, some commodities rising by more than 100 per cent in recent months.

He said that the dire financial situation and security concerns have only served to heighten people's concerns and shoppers were staying away from the markets even as they approach the Eid holidays.

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09-29-2008, 12:56 AM

Zardari meets Bill Clinton, George SorosQUOTELater on Saturday, President Asif Ali Zardari met the global financier and philanthropist, George Soros and discussed with him the challenges facing the new democratic government in economy and other areas.

The President apprised him of the governmentâs resolve to free Pakistan from the shackles of poverty, hunger, terrorism and disunity. The President said his priorities were to bring in good governance, strengthen state institutions and ensure supremacy of the Parliament.

George Soros paid rich tributes to late Ms Benazir Bhutto and her struggle for democracy, human rights and freedom of press.

George Soros is the founder and chairman of a network of foundations that promote, among other things, the creation of open, democratic societies based upon the rule of law, market economies, transparent and accountable governance, freedom of the press, and respect for human rights.
Here comes trouble for India.

09-29-2008, 11:14 AM

Pakistan is very busy
today's headlines

11 militants killed in Kashmir fighting
Zardari pledges action on information about Osama: Karzai softens stance
Kayani visits Bajaur; 15 killed in clashes
25 tribesmen, 3 FC personnel killed
Polish firmâs engineer kidnapped

09-30-2008, 10:45 AM

Kayani shakes up army commandQUOTEISLAMABAD, Sept 29: In a major reshuffle in the armyâs top command, Chief of the Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Monday brought in a new head of the all-powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), changed four of the nine corps commanders and appointed a new chief of general staff, besides giving key postings to a few others.

The shake-up is the most wide-ranging since Gen Kayani took over as the COAS and perhaps even more significant since the former military ruler General Pervez Musharraf stepped down as the countryâs controversial president.

The move came within hours of the promotion of seven major generals to the rank of three-star lieutenant generals, with a number of them becoming the direct beneficiary of the reshuffle.

Perhaps the most surprising of all such changes is the appointment of Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha as the new Director-General of ISI. He has replaced Lt-Gen Nadeem Taj, who has been appointed Commander of 30 Corps in Gujranwala. A highly professional soldier in his own right, Lt-Gen Pasha has, for the past over two years, been overseeing the ongoing security operation in the tribal areas and parts of the NWFP.

In his capacity as the director-general military operations (DGMO) he was directly responsible for the launching and execution of all major security strikes in Fata and Swat, the latest being the major onslaught against religious extremists in the Bajaur tribal agency.

But he is not the only beneficiary of Mondayâs promotions and reshuffle carried out by General Kayani who, many believe, has put in place a new team to implement his vision for reviving the prestige of the armed forces and for enhancing the security of the state.

Some of the other significant appointees are former SSG Commander Lt-Gen Tahir Mahmood, who has been given the most crucial 10 Corps in Rawalpindi; Lt-Gen Shahid Iqbal, who has been made commander of the 5 Corps in Karachi; and Lt. Gen Muhammad Yusuf, who has been given 31 Corps in Bahawalpur.

Lt-Gen Mustafa has been appointed the Chief of General Staff. He will replace Lt-Gen Salahuddin Satti.

According to an announcement by the ISPR, the Corps Commanders of Rawalpindi, Karachi, Bahawalpur and Gujranwala have been changed.

Lt General Tahir Mehmood has been appointed the Corps Commander of Rawalpindi. He replaces Lt-Gen Mohsin Kamal who has been appointed MS (military secretary) at General Headquarters (GHQ). Lt-Gen Ahsan Azhar Hyat, Corps Commander Karachi, has been appointed Inspector General Training and Evaluation (IGT&E) at GHQ. Lt-Gen Raza Mohammad, Corps Commander Bahawalpur, has been appointed Director-General Joint Staff at JSHQ. Lt-Gen Muhammad Yousaf has been appointed Corps Commander Bahawalpur. Lt-Gen Mohammad Zaki, Director-General Infantry, has been appointed IG Arms at GHQ. Lt-Gen Javed Zia, Deputy Chief of General Staff, has been appointed QMG at GHQ.

Lt-Gen Zahid Hussain has been appointed Adjutant General at GHQ. Lt-Gen Muhammad Mustafa has been appointed CGS at GHQ. Lt-Gen Tanvir Tahir has been appointed at IG Communication and IT at GHQ. Lt-Gen Ayyaz Salim Rana has been appointed Chairman Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT).

The reshuffle is being seen by observers as highly significant as it comes against the backdrop of stepped-up US incursions inside Pakistanâs territory and the unusual statement by the Army Chief declaring that violation of the countryâs sovereignty would not be allowed at any cost.

Some observers have pointed out that the ISI chief had been changed after the abortive attempt through a controversial notification to place the intelligence agency under the administrative, financial and operational control of the Interior Ministry.

Earlier in the day, seven Major Generals were promoted to the rank of Lieutenant General.

Those promoted are three Major Generals of Infantry, two of Armoured Corps and one each of Artillery and Electrical and Mechanical Engineering (EME). They are: Major General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, Major General Mohammad Mustafa Khan, Major General Ayyaz Saleem Rana, Major General Tahir Mahmood, Major General Shahid Iqbal, Major General Tanvir Tahir and Major General Zahid Hussain.

Official sources told Dawn that Maj-Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha would be replaced by General Officer Commanding Jhelum Major General Javed Iqbal as Director General Military Operations.

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