[quote name='Swamy G' date='07 April 2010 - 03:23 AM' timestamp='1270590335' post='105753']
We wouldn't want TN to fall to Maoists. Luckily, the terrain is not as tough as in the current Red Corridor. With Kerala continuing to have its share of problems, TN is the next best candidate. BJP gotta win something in 2014. It is a do or die situation.
Before that can happen, it has to wrestle some local assembly seats in TN. I am kind of 50-50 in sharing some alliance with one of MuKa's sons - Azhagiri or Stalin.
BJP needs a Kautilya, like NOW !!!
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Send me email.
I am working with TN BJP groups
It is a good verdict favouring the BJP and the results of BBMP elections are given below :
Total Seats : 198
Result Announced : 192
BJP: 110
Congress: 61
JDS: 14
Others: 7
BSY expected around 120 seats.
Cheers - Karnataka BJP. It is not just an election win, but acceptance of the good initiatives by the BJP govt. in Karnataka.
What is the possibility of Yeddy campaigning in neighboring AP and TN?
I don't know how well Yeddy will be received in TN. He is from Karnataka; and some political parties might end up playing the Cauvery or Karanataka card on BJP. A good editorial, IMO, from Deccan Chronicle. Surprising it is from DC, I thought it was Congress paper.
But Yeddy and his consultants should act as consultants for TN BJP to develop support at the grass roots level. It has to capture the minds of the young. And the youth look towards progress and development. BJP needs to package culture & development.
Of the MK children which one is closer to Hindu roots? Stalin or Azhagiri and who does Kanamozhi support of the two brothers?
[quote name='ramana' date='09 April 2010 - 07:43 AM' timestamp='1270778740' post='105797']
Of the MK children which one is closer to Hindu roots? Stalin or Azhagiri and who does Kanamozhi support of the two brothers?
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IMHO, Azhagiri is more traditional , doesnt speak english and these are step-brothers of Kanimozhi
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='09 April 2010 - 09:20 AM' timestamp='1270784538' post='105801']
IMHO, Azhagiri is more traditional , doesnt speak english and these are step-brothers of Kanimozhi
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There is another son who is supposed to be illegitimate of Karuna- He is a MP
Jharkhand Vikas Morcha-Prajatantrik Chief Babulal Marandi may then become the Chief Minister in a coalition government of the Congress, JMM and JVN. In the 81-member Jharkhand Assembly, Congress has 14 MLAs, JMM has 18 and JVM(P) has 11 MLAs.
Asked about JMM's sudden support on the cut motions, Hemant Soren, today claimed that it happened by "mistake" and made it clear there was no move to form a government in Jharkhand with Congress backing. http://news.in.msn.com/national/article....396&page=2
Asked about the content of his second letter to Gadkari, Hemant told a press conference in Ranchi on Thursday night that he had conveyed to him that "keeping the interest of the state in mind and ending the political turmoil in Jharkhand, the JMM legislature party has requested BJP to form a new government which the JMM will support."
Asked when Shibu Soren would resign, he said he would do so if BJP initiated government formation with JMM. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india...872637.cms
Foriegn Policy Center, London
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BJP contemplates its future
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Whay are foriegners interested in BJP
Does India Still Need a Hindu Nationalist Party?
A look at the future prospects of India's controversial right-wing politicians.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/20...y?page=0,0
BY ELLIOT HANNON | APRIL 30, 2010
It's been a tough 12 months for India's Bharatiya Janata Party. Last spring, the center-right political counterweight to the Gandhi clan's left-leaning Congress Party was routed in India's national elections, losing two dozen seats in the country's lower house after mustering just 19 percent of the national vote. The results continued the BJP's slide, wiping out a third of the seats it had amassed during its political high a decade earlier.
After last spring's crushing defeat, the party vowed to rise again. But then more losses followed in state elections. Most recently, a top BJP figure's testimony about his role in 2002 religious riots in Gujarat that left nearly 2,000 Muslims dead highlighted the lingering image problems the party faces. It also pointed to a larger issue plaguing the BJP: Can the party survive while still holding on to its founding ideology?
So far, there have been no easy answers. The BJP rose to power a decade ago brandishing an assertive brand of nationalism called Hindutva. Hindutva -- meaning, essentially, "Hindu-ness" -- stirred a potent mix of cultural nostalgia and aggressive religious nationalism that proved to be political gold. Hindutva also has a conveniently loose definition: It can imply anything from a fairly benign affirmation of Hindu culture and history to a more virulently anti-Muslim chauvinism. Because of this, the BJP was able to form alliances with hard-line subgroups like Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) and Shiv Sena, a Maharashtra-based party whose politics were expanded from localized ethnic politics to include a form of Hindutva.
This strategy was immensely productive in driving votes among India's upper castes, particularly the growing middle class residing in the cities. Emotive issues for conservative Hindus, such as the 1992 destruction of the Babri Mosque at Ayodhya and the movement to build a Hindu temple in its place, not only set off nationwide "communal" riots between Muslim and Hindu communities, they also galvanized the BJP's political base.
Once the BJP came into office, however, finally cobbling together a lasting coalition in 1999 after two shorter stints in power, its ties to conservative groups became more problematic. Forced by the realities of a coalition government to tack toward the center, the party was seen by its old allies to be abandoning its Hindutva principles. Meanwhile, the RSS and Shiv Sena themselves became political liabilities. Last fall, the Indian government released a report on the destruction of the Babri Mosque and fingered the RSS for fomenting communalism that led to riots across the country. Shiv Sena, too, has a penchant for violence and a willingness to publicly attack even big stars -- recently, Bollywood actor Shah Rukh Kahn -- for insufficient patriotism.
Caught between the demands of office and of its old friends, and pushing a feel-good nationalist agenda that began to seem out of touch to rural voters, the BJP was voted out of power in 2004 after just one full term in office.
But instead of abandoning its Hindutva ideology in the wake of defeat, the BJP only retrenched. Sudheendra Kulkarni, the party's former national secretary, told me that a conservative cadre read the 2004 election as a sign that a return to first principles was in order. "There is a vocal view within the party that has a Hindutva-only approach," he said. Caught between the desire to appease its Hindutva ideologues and the need to appeal to a new set of voters so far unswayed by nationalist appeals, the BJP has appeared to be listing and unable to do either.
Internal slip-ups have only made things worse. Last year's election seemed to be the perfect chance to reach out to a wider demographic, as the country went to the polls less than six months after the November 2008 attacks in Mumbai. The BJP emphasized its national-security credentials, charging that the Congress government's response was weak and indecisive.
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(This post was last modified: 05-01-2010, 10:04 PM by acharya.)
The answer to my question in detail why they are targetting BJP
Pranav Wrote:Some thoughts from from western think-tanks about how best to manage Indian politics:
Quote:Does India Still Need a Hindu Nationalist Party?
BY ELLIOT HANNON | APRIL 30, 2010
[lots of platitudes, stereotypes, and obligatory diatribes against N. Modi clipped ... do read the article in full]
Clearly, the BJP is trying to make some changes -- but they may not be the right ones. It selected new leadership, opting for a relatively young face: Nitin Gadkari, a newcomer to the national stage who previously headed the party's Maharashtra state organization. Gadkari was backed by the RSS, however, suggesting that changes may be more superficial than real.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/20...?page=full
To analyze this piece of news, we need to take a little detour. Let us look at some excerpts from Carroll Quigley's book "Tragedy and Hope", Macmillan, 1966. Quigley (1910-1977) was a Professor at the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University, and was a mentor of Bill Clinton:
Quote:There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network ... has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists ... and frequently does so.
...there grew up in the twentieth century a power structure between London and New York which penetrated deeply into university life, the press, and the practice of foreign policy.
I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments.
They were gracious and cultured gentlemen .... who were largely responsible for the partitions of Ireland, Palestine, and India, as well as the federations of South Africa, Central Africa, and the West Indies.
It must be emphasized here, however, that Quigley is not giving us the full picture. This Syndicate is considerably older than what he says. Furthermore, Quigley fails to mention that the core of this Syndicate is based on the Sabbatean-Frankist sect [Ref Rabbi Marvin S. Antelman, "To Eliminate the Opiate", Vols I and II. Vol I is available at http://www.scribd.com/doc/20459331/R-Mos...iate-vol-1]
Quigley recounts how the American people have been thoroughly confused and ineffective in dealing with this Syndicate:
Quote:...the relationship between the financial circles of London and those of the eastern United States ... reflects one of the most powerful influences in twentieth-century American and world history. The two ends of this English-speaking axis have sometimes been called, perhaps facetiously, the English and American Establishments. There is, however, a considerable degree of truth behind the joke, a truth which reflects a very real power structure. It is this power structure which the Radical Right in the United States has been attacking for years in the belief that they are attacking the Communism. This is particularly true when these attacks are directed, as they so frequently are at "Harvard Socialism," or at "Left-wing newspapers" like The New York Times and the Washington Post, or at foundations and their dependent establishments, such as the Institute of International Education.
These misdirected attacks by the Radical Right did much to confuse the American people in the period 1948-1955, and left consequences which were still significant a decade later. By the end of 1953, most of these attacks had run their course. The American people, thoroughly bewildered at widespread charges of twenty years of treason and subversion, had rejected the Democrats and put into the White House the Republican Party's traditional favorite, a war hero, Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Qiugley also mentions some of the over-ground fronts utilized by this criminal syndicate:
Quote:At the end of the war of 1914, it became clear that the organization of this system had to be greatly extended ... This front organization [was] called the Royal Institute of International Affairs [aka "Chatham House"].... In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations ...
The RIAA and the CFR do exercise a fair amount of influence. Indeed, here is Hillary Clinton saying how the CFR tells the State department "what it should be doing and how to think about the future": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6TXcQpgC9Q
Now, the Crime Syndicate has very little respect for democracy. Quigley explains that the Syndicate intended
Quote:to allow an alternation of ... two parties in public office in order to conceal their own influence, inhibit any exhibition of independence of politicians, and allow the electorate to believe that they were exercising their own free choice.
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Hopefully, the elements of choice and freedom may survive for the ordinary individual in that he may be free to make a choice between two opposing political groups (even if these groups have little policy choice within the parameters of policy established by the experts) and he may have the choice to switch his economic support from one large unit to another. But, in general, his freedom and choice will be controlled within the very narrow alternatives ...
Although this false choice between two parties has been achieved in the US, the syndicate does nevertheless need to rig elections from time to time. It is greatly facilitated in this effort by the use of electronic voting machines.
Expectedly, the syndicate strongly supports the use of electronic voting machines in India. See "Indian EVMs impress Hillary Clinton" - http://news.rediff.com/interview/2009/no...linton.htm
Now, in order to create a similar false choice for the natives in India, two puppet parties are required. One pole of this order appears to already exist - the Congress Party. The interests of the syndicate would demand that Maoists be protected and the use of EVMs be supported. Sonia Gandhi and her loyalists appear to be adhering to this. But the system is not stable until there is an opposite pole, and this is the role that the BJP is supposed to play.
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It would have been best for the syndicate if the BJP were as much their puppet as the Congress appears to be. Then, the BJP could be allowed to win from time to time, thereby easing suspicions of vote fraud amongst the natives. However, it appears that the installation of Gadkari as the president has upset these plans. Indeed, the self-confessedly Anglophilic columnist Swapan Dasgupta, who harshly criticizes "conspiracy theories" about EVMs, regards the nomination of Gadkari as a "coup" in the BJP.
This brings up back to the article we started with: If the BJP cannot be reliably controlled, the syndicate may consider it better to not have a Hindu nationalist party in India at all. Severe rigging may be required to keep the BJP out. But the media can be relied on to mount a campaign that the BJP's support is eroding. That may make it easier for the natives to swallow their medicine.[/size]
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/publication...Left_Right
Something BJP should think about while attracting the minuscule crowd that visits blogs. Like Smritis evolve, BJP needs to evolve to nourish and protect Dharma. The conservatism as practiced in the West does not take into account the changing needs of the modern world well. It is more like a lagging indicator of the economy. BJP should come out of the Western trap of Left and Right; and position itself as a party that champions vision/mission, nationalism, development, welfare of the people, human rights/dignity all under the umbrella of Dharma.
NEW DELHI: Ending a fortnight-long stalemate, JMM and AJSU on Saturday announced support to a BJP-led government in Jharkhand for the remaining four-and-a-half year tenure of the state Assembly.
The decision was arrived at a meeting attended by BJP President Nitin Gadkari, senior party leader Ananth Kumar, Jharkhand deputy chief minister Raghubar Das, JMM Legislature Party leader Hemant Soren and AJSU President Sudesh Mahato here.
The BJP Parliamentary Board will meet on Monday to decide its chief ministerial candidate. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India...906761.cms
They claimed that the CBI is being used as a tool to pressurize any voice of dissent to the UPA, and that it is systematically targeting leaders of the opposition, particularly those belonging to the BJP, the Samajwadi Party (SP) and the Rashtriya Janta Dal (RJD).
"The policemen are being hounded in Gujarat, and the CBI is taking charge of all investigations in the state. Why are they doing this? Does the task of managing day to day affairs of Gujarat come under the purview of the CBI?" remarked Purushottam Rupala, Vice President of BJP's Gujarat cell. (ANI) http://news.oneindia.in/2010/05/12/bjpst...ofcbi.html
[quote name='Capt M Kumar' date='12 May 2010 - 10:55 PM' timestamp='1273684647' post='106344']
They claimed that the CBI is being used as a tool to pressurize any voice of dissent to the UPA, and that it is systematically targeting leaders of the opposition, particularly those belonging to the BJP, the Samajwadi Party (SP) and the Rashtriya Janta Dal (RJD).
"The policemen are being hounded in Gujarat, and the CBI is taking charge of all investigations in the state. Why are they doing this? Does the task of managing day to day affairs of Gujarat come under the purview of the CBI?" remarked Purushottam Rupala, Vice President of BJP's Gujarat cell. (ANI) http://news.oneindia.in/2010/05/12/bjpst...ofcbi.html
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This means that a new power center is in the central govt and the PMO which is now doing a targeted attack on those group which it sees as a threat to itself.
The most likely group which could get this kind of clout is the Indian evangelical christians who have connections to the west.
Raj Chengappa interviews Nitin Gadkari in Tribune
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20100513/edit.htm#6
This is a signficiant interview.
Besides Mitra, who was nominated from Madhya Pradesh, and Vijay from Uttarakhand, the BJP named Anil Madhav Dave from Madhya Pradesh and V P Singh from Rajasthan.
The decision was taken in a meeting of the BJP Parliamentary Board here. The names of sitting RS member Najma Heptullah and former MP Hema Malini also came up for discussion but they did not make it to the list. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india...011822.cms
Quote: RS member Najma Heptullah and former MP Hema Malini
Why they are out?
[url="http://www.telegraphindia.com//1100605/jsp/nation/story_12532078.jsp"] link[/url]
Quote:Sources said that apart from having to fight to get its candidates elected ââ¬â except in states that the BJP rules with a majority of its own ââ¬â there was a perception in the party that Heptulla was ââ¬Åpast her utilityââ¬Â.
Unlike Heptulla, Hema was valued highly as a campaigner. As and when there is a vacancy in the Rajya Sabha, she is almost certain to return.
Sources said Shourieââ¬â¢s goose was cooked the day he compared L.K. Advani and Rajnath Singh as Humpty Dumpty and Tarzan.
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