Stopping xtian missionaries
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The total evangelical budget is $150 bil a year of which we can assume that
$75 bil is allotted for India
Next I make the reasonable assumption, that it takes 100 X the money to make
a convert as it is to retain a convert
So a carefully targeted hindu charity of $1 bil / year will fully stop this
This rests on a triad
1. Mobile medical van with paramedic
2. Primary school
3. Small temple
Suggested charities
http://www.ekal.org
http://www.idrf.org
Bharat Sevashram Sangha
Aim for Seva
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If you understand that xtianity is a parasitical implant on the western Indo-european cultural group, you can see the decay of its hold
Church attendance is 5 % in western europe and 30% in US
So how much longer will the western public be funding conversion drives
now that their homeland is under attack from islamic immigrants
Next the increasing economic prosperity in India decreases the scope for rice xtians
Hindu charity can stop xtian conversions
To stop conversions, both sewa and re-ignition of religious sentiments are needed
A devout poor hindu wont convert, but a non-devout middle class hindu will convert
Some charities that do religion and social service
and US tax-exempt
and are very cost effective
The missionary budget aimed at India is $100 billion a year
To retain a hindu costs 100 times less as to make a convert
If each NRI hindu tithes 3% pre-tax, to carefully selected charities, the problem can be licked
Plus economic growth in India is reducing impact of rice xtianity
1. Bharat sevashram sangha
2. Aimforseva.org
3. Ammachi.org
4. Chinnajeeyar.org
A look at the finances of stopping conversions
1. Evangelical budget = $100 bil / year
2. Assuming 1% counter-charity will cost $1 billion a year
India has 500,000 villages, which means $2000 per village
per year for counter-measures
Each NRI must adopt 1 village
The ekal vidyalaya program is actually more frugal
It runs a village for $350 per year, meaning we can cover all 1 lakh tribal villages at $35 mil a year
As far as medical care goes,
I like the IDRF scheme of mobile medical van
90% of all illnesses can be taken care of by a mobile medical van
$11000 is the cost of a mobile medical van
and you can cover 20 villages with this
Ask your folks not to drop money into Indian temple hundis
The money is stolen by govt and given to madrasas
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Lets look at the economy of Ekal Vidyalayas
1 lakh tribal villages x $350 a year = $35 mil a year to block out missionaries from tribal areas
An NRI tithing at the rate of 3% can fund 6 ekal vidyalayas
In addition, there are some field tested , cost effective means of stopping xtian missionaries in Tamil Nadu,
anyone from TN who is willing to be checked for references and is willing to spend time / money near Chennai area please contact moderators
$350 a year, keeps 1 village immunised from missionaries
http://www.ekal.org
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http://www.ekal.org <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Excellente...
Who can I talk to in Canada ? Is there a contact point for promoting, creating awareness, or even media PR who can take up this cause ?
If you have literature, and/or material, I can canvas for awareness in my locality.
At ekal.org
website they have a US address
In addition, I work on several anti-missionary projects
1. $11 a month feeds 60 tribal kids in Orissa run by ISKCON
http://www.foodrelief.org
2. halton@chinmayamission.org (905) 540-9995
Chinmaya Halton, Canada, gets $2 matching for every $1 they raise
from Canadian govt
for their projects in Rural India
3. Finally in Tamil Nadu, I work on several highly successful anti-missionary projects and we look for donors and volunteers after screening for confidentiality
GS: Have split some of your post into this new thread.
Others please contribute generously (atleast a few suggestions <!--emo&  --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
GS/Viren,
Thanks guys,
Some feedback..
Just donated $51.00 to the ISKCON website. Tried going to the ekal website first but they wanted $365.00 upfront thru paypal (?). One I cant afford that kind of money upfront and two I am not too sure what paypal is and three it would be nice if I can somehow donate the amount I want to that website - could you guys relate this to the ekal authorities ?? The third one was really troubling - in their registration they asked for name etc. (along with address & email address) and then asked for payment method (which had just one option - paypal) - upto that point the impression I got was I am donating $365.00. They also had some kind of pprogramme preference (?) that had "sponsor a school* and *FTC* - dont know what FTC is ? <!--emo&:unsure:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='unsure.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Regards..
I used IDRF to donate to Ekal Vidyalaya. That kills two birds with one stone. it encourages IDRF which is under considerable flak lately while also helping Ekal Vidyalaya. I also asked that it be used in my home district, so i can visit it when i go there. That way there is a personal connection to the organization.
paypal is a pretty safe way to pay rajesh. I use it for a lot of the mail order purchases i make (e.g. computer components). That way you have middle man to complain to . I believe paypal is associated with ebay.
<!--QuoteBegin-Kaushal+May 14 2004, 07:06 PM-->QUOTE(Kaushal @ May 14 2004, 07:06 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> I used IDRF to donate to Ekal Vidyalaya. That kills two birds with one stone. it encourages IDRF which is under considerable flak lately while also helping Ekal Vidyalaya. I also asked that it be used in my home district, so i can visit it when i go there. That way there is a personal connection to the organization.
paypal is a pretty safe way to pay rajesh. I use it for a lot of the mail order purchases i make (e.g. computer components). That way you have middle man to complain to . I believe paypal is associated with ebay. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
IDRF is not realy an efficent organizations, kaushal garu
I like what they claim they are doing, but they are so inefficient. No wonder, whats happening in india, they cannot counter it.
I just wished they talked to me directly to get a feedback, which they never will
Got another friend to donate $51.00 more..
I suggest other IF-ites to post something on this thread whenever they make donations - sometimes we get lazy - and maybe that will wake us up..
Also please share your experiences on activism - not much of an activist myself - that will give me ideas and maybe some energy/inspiration to get my lazy ass off that stoopid couch.. <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Whenever I see anti Hindu charity article , I make donation to that charity.
It is my reqular practice for last two years.
I started donating money to local temple and Arya Samaj in India, especially some amount to Purohit. They don't get paid much and lack motivation.
Poor Brahmin remains poor, that need to be changed. In North there is no visible discrimination among caste excluding UP.
Encourage friends and family member to contribute to Hindu charities.
Check this organization in Mysore District - working in Tribal areas of Mysore district.
( www.vivekamysore.com)
Swami Vivekananda Youth Movement.
Christian missionaries having been trying to evangelize but not with much success so far.
This NGO was recently registered in USA as
Swami Vivekananda Youth Movement of North America ( www.viveka-usa.org)
I will give more info shortly
Manju, remember I warned you about this charity signing onto a psec appeal
promiseofindia.org
Did you alert them
k.ram - IDRF
IDRF is run by people who work in other jobs
They do this as volunteer work
If you have any suggestions, please call them
and they are open to any idea
GS
I spent about five to six hours reading all the endorsement on that website you had given the link for (about six months back, I think).
After that I spoke with the top guy at SVYM and told him about the activities. He said he will keep an eye for any anti India activties at the Promise of India group.
I can assure you this much that the top people at SVYM are as pro Hindu as any of us here. And they are very aware of the Evangelizing and infact have to deal with in their daily work very often.
Thanks
From a field worker I learnt that one of the key reasons for TDP defeat is xtian missionary in AP
Please support http://www.chinnajeeyar.org
In past week 17, additional farmers have committed suicide in AP while our neta babu nexus are dragging their feet. 3000 have already done so in the prior administration. This is outrageous. I've checked around and found that there are no NGO types helping out in this area.
Are there any charities around that can help here?
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