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<b>The BJP on Tuesday has decided to consider moving the Election Commission for Sonia's disqualification from the Lok Sabha for "holding an office of profit" as Chairperson of the National Advisory Committee</b>
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Yesterday was the Vijaydivas for Hindus!
Common Hindus were able to defeat Indian communist and German Fascist forces.
Witzel and Romila are not only lying but they are biggest fraud. I was present in every hearing. CDE have already accepted 85% of changes.

Indiatruth.org is organization started by people (FOSA + CAC) (communist group of India and Pakistan) who carried placard showing "Allah will destroy the terrorist State of India" during Kargil war.
Yesterday’s meeting Witzel's assistance Steve Farmer quoted “he is Atheist”. But his thesis is full of reference to Bible. Steve Farmer said that he does not believe in Aryan Invasion or Aryan Migration theory. All who says have no knowledge what so ever which includes Witzel and Romilla Thappar both of them are promoting her and his nonsense theory.
Yesterday’s meeting Witzel paraded Sikh Dalit (Khalistani). On one side they say Dalit is Hinduism problem and now Witzel is parading Dalit. And these Sikh Dalit claims that they are eating "Dead Animals" for last thousand years. They are cleaning toilets in India and also in USA. If its Sikhism problem they should add in Sikhism lesson in text book.,
They even parade Muslims and Christians against Hindus.

One of the FOSA member started abusing common Hindus and he was forced to remove from room by security people.

Why German Fundamentalist Christian Witzel and communist Romilla Thappar celebrating? They should check changes. Its shame they are lying. Common Hindus were able to defeat communist and Fascist forces.

COngrats every single Hindu parents and Hindus. United we can defeat these Christian Fascist and Communist forces.
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Muslims urged to examine the timing of cartoons

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"Destruction of the shrine in Samarra wrongly attributed to Sunni extremists"



OUTCRY: Muslims demonstrate at Thousand Lights mosque in Chennai on Monday, against the publication of cartoons in the Western media. — Photo: S.R. Raghunathan

CHENNAI: Muslims should examine the timing of and possible motivation for publishing the cartoons on the Prophet Mohammed in the western media, Ghulam Mohammed Mehdi Khan, Chief Shia Khazi, said on Monday. He noted that the recent violent reaction against the insulting cartoons might have caused concern.

While Muslims should show restraint, "it is also necessary to examine the timing of and possible motivation for these cartoons. Using pretended freedom of speech and Press, some western media are taking advantage of the demonisation of Islam, to insult the Holy Prophet... and provoke extremist violence to reinforce the image of fanatical Muslims," he said after a protest by Muslims held at the Thousand Lights mosque. The destruction of the sacred shrine in Samarra in Iraq was also wrongly attributed to Iraqi Sunni extremists, threatening to inflame violence, a release from Imam-e-Jummah quoting the Chief Khazi said.

Western countries could learn from India and particularly Tamil Nadu, where there was respect for all religions, the statement said. Hundreds of Muslims participated in the protest and raised slogans raised against the visit of American President George W. Bush.

<i><b>This year's Railway budget has many unique features including the reduction of fare in the upper classes and starting of a number of new trains plus speeding up many of the existing trains. In keeping with the demands of the growing economy, there was also announcement about a new freight corridor from Ludhiana in Punjab to Sonenagar in Bihar. Understandably, this has created some noise in Parliament as Left felt that the corridor should have been up to Collate. It is obviously more for political reasons rather than for practical reasons. Let us hope that the new measures will bring better revenue to the Railways and better facilities to the consumers.</b></i>

Kingsley pledges to help raise funds for quake victims


21/02/2006 - 17:59:27 British actor Ben Kingsley today promised to help raise funds to assist victims of a powerful earthquake in Pakistan last year that killed about 87,000 people and left millions homeless.

British actor Ben Kingsley today promised to help raise funds to assist victims of a powerful earthquake in Pakistan last year that killed about 87,000 people and left millions homeless.

Kingsley, on a visit to Pakistan, praised efforts by the Pakistani government to handle the aftermath of the magnitude-7.6 quake on October 8, which flattened entire villages in Pakistan’s portion of Kashmir and surrounding areas.

Kingsley met with Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz in Islamabad, the prime minister’s press office said in a statement.

Aziz said Kingsley’s visit to the quake zone would help draw the attention of the world community to the continuing need for assistance in rehabilitating and rebuilding quake-hit areas, the statement said.

“Sir Ben assured the prim minister that he would join the Pakistan government’s efforts to raise more funds for the (quake) victims,” it said.

The statement did not say whether Kingsley had already visited the quake zone or would travel there soon. Officials at Aziz’s press office were not available for comment.

Kingsley, 62, has won many awards for his acting, including the best actor Academy Award for his role in the 1980 movie Gandhi.

He received a knighthood in 2002.

<b>Hindu Rashtra? Propositions & Reality</b>

Many Hindu organizations have been labeled as fascists, communal, enemies of a democratic framework and so on. In many circles, the very word RSS or BJP are used as derogatory epithets and the discussion ends there even before it starts. Yet, no one seems to answer the question, what is a Hindu Rashtra? What will be its constitution like? What will be its governance model? There are several books, papers and institutions, which espouse the cause of a Hindu Nation. Few delve into, what would be a Hindu state.

The concept of a Hindu Nation seems to rest upon key precepts such as the promotion of Sanskrit as the national language of India, teaching of Dharmic precepts in our schools, the abolition of constitutional discrimination against the Hindus, fight against violence prone mono theistic religions, Hinduism to be treated on par with Nationalism in India, re-writing of Indian history from an Indian view point, correcting the negative role played by our left leaning media against Hindu causes, re-define secularism to be equi-distant but not opposed to religion, the need for an intellectual Kshatriya and in general the ability to practice a way of life in all domains of the Indian social and political spectrum openly, consistent with Dharmic principles.

While there are many such Hindu/Dharmic issues espoused by forces sympathetic to Hindu concepts of Nation hood, the further application of these concepts to a governance model for the state based on Hinduism seems to be elusive. It is unclear as to what are the key precepts of its constitution and governance bodies? Will it rest upon institutions such as a parliament, executive and judiciary? Will the state be a Hindu state or it will it be equi distant to all faiths? Will there be a place for one man, one vote? Will it have equality before the law as its guiding principle? There are many such questions, which come to mind, where we need clarity on what is a Hindu Rashtra?

Is the concept of a Hindu Rashtra limited to a Hindu Nation or does it go beyond to define the concept of the hindu state. Is it satisfied with correcting the imbalance in the current Indian polity or does it seek to completely redefine Indian polity in Hindu colors. The governance models of kingdom states of India under Hindus, were largely based on a Monarchy with local governance bodies such as the Panchayat. It is not known, which part of the vast history of Indian states the Hindu Rashtra is depending upon to define a future vision. Some think there is no such thing as a Hindu state and is a red herring.

Hopefully participants of this forum can throw some light and provide clarity to these rather vexed questions.

Previous version of the thread is here

Is Harvard Trustee <b>Alan Bersin </b>has been blatantly misusing his position as CA Sec. of Ed. to direct lucrative SBE consulting pork to the Harvard Professor Witzel, because Sanskrit/Indology dept is on the verge of closing due to lack of research contracts, student fees, and generally low-class ranking?

I started this topic to collect famous patriotic songs from different parts of India, many people just know about Vande Mataram and our official national anthem but there are other songs, so if people come across these with an English translation they should post them here (when I say patriotic I do not just mean against the British imperialists but also against Muslim imperialists), I am starting off this topic by posting the song "Pagrhi sambhaal oh jatta" by Banke Dayal, a brief background about this song is:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->When Gokhale visited the Punjab in 1907, he was received with great enthusiasm by the students of the Khalsa College, an institution started in 1892 specifically to instil loyalty in the Sikh youth.The horses of his carriage were taken out and it was pulled by the students.He spoke from the college Dharamsala from which the Granth Sahib was specially removed to make room for him. It was here that the famous poem, Pagri Sainbhal, Jatta, was first recited by Banke Dayal, editor of Jhang Sayal; it became the battle-song of the Punjab revolutionaries,

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->At this meeting Mr. Banke Dayai, Editor of Jhang Sayal, read the historic poem "Pugree Sambhal Oh Jatta".

It became very popular and it was heard everywhere in the Punjab resounding the skies. People, however, mistook this poem as mine.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pagrhi sambhaal oh jatta; pagrhi sambhaal oh Faslaan nu kha gaye keerhe, tan te nahin lere lirhe
Bhukaan ne khhoob nachorehe, ronde ne bal oh Pagrhi
Bande ne tee leader, raje te khan bahadur
Tenu le khaavan khafir, vlchh de ne jaal oh- Pagrhi
Hind hal tera Mandir, usda pujari tu
Challega kadon tak, apni khumari tu
Larhne te marne di, kar le tayari tu - Pagrhi
Seene te khaave teer, Ranjha tu desh hai heer
Smbhal ke chal tu vir--Pagrhi
Tussi kyoon dabde veero, uski pukar oh
Ho-ke ikathe veero, maro lalkaar oh
Tarhi do hattharh bajje, chhatiyan nun tarh oh
Pagrhi sambhaal jatta, pagrhi sambhaal oh.

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Gaurd your self respect O' farmer
Your crops am being destroyed by insects, you suffer forbeing ill clad
Famines have taken a heavy toll, your dependents are made to weep in anguish
Jagirdars and Khan Bahadurs set themselves up as your leaders
They are setting traps to exploit you
India is your temple and you are its worshipper
How long will you remain under the spell of lethargy?
Prepare yourself for a fight to death
You may have to face repression
Love your country as Ranjha loved Heer
Tread cautiously courageous one
Your motherland wants you to shed thoughts of cowardice
Be united and give a threatening challenge.
Join hands and put up a brave front
O' farmer guard your self-respect.

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the dynasty.
the marxist education we receive.
corruption.
gandhification of indian freedom struggle and his "hey raam"
the death of sanskrit.


what else???

any positives... maybe our foreign policy?

http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/jan/30fli...&file=.htm

<b>Karnataka's lessons for the Congress</b>