I would like to start this thread to collect the good, bad and ugly of moving back to India. Please post information, resources, experiences etc on anything that is related to resettling in India.

http://www.zdnetindia.com/news/national/st...366,118734.html

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India beckons
Vinutha V, March 14, 2005


While it is not easy to adjust to a new professional and social environment back home, returnees are rediscovering their roots and want to be a part of the country's booming IT sector, says Vinutha V.

For most Indian IT professionals, the US has always been the destination. A major reason for students who left the country and never came back was a lack of opportunities. This is no longer true. With global companies zeroing in on India as a destination for low-cost, high quality work, the scenario has changed. Professionals, who had gone to the US for better opportunities and lifestyle, are packing their bags to head home. Coming back, however, does not guarantee that their expectations can be met, but opportunities and the sense of belonging nullifies the problems of adjustment.

The growth of the infotech economy has transformed India into a hiring destination. Other factors adding to this trend are an improved standard of living and a thriving technology and services industry. The retailing industry offers a shopping experience akin to international standards. In addition, excellent education facilities for kids are now common.

Additionally, the salary structure in India, though not on par with those in the US, holds potential for savings. Repeated portraying of India as an attractive IT career destination by the media in the US is making them aware of the opportunities. After the US recession in 2001, people with two to three years of experience preferred coming back to India, as they could not get good opportunities. Another reason for India's popularity with international firms is their need to keep ahead of competitors in a global business climate requiring a seamless 24-hour customer service.

There are other strong personal reasons: Increasingly, people settled in the US are concerned about their children losing touch with their roots and culture. They are also keen to stay close to their aged parents and be a part of their lives. Although returnees are aware of the salary structure in India, they come with unrealistic salary expectations. It is only for senior levels that Indian companies are willing to pay the US standard for salaries. Industry experts point out that unless an individual possesses expected domain and management skills, the person is not eligible for higher salaries. At senior managerial levels, they can demand a good package from Indian companies-for salary as well as the position.

The scene is however not rosy for those who have been given employment by a body shopping firm. Unless they upgrade their skill-sets, they are bound to face a tough time in finding better opportunities in India. There could even be a mismatch between the organisational structure and the roles being offered. As many Indian IT companies still consider seniority to be a factor in promoting employees, at the age of 40 for instance, they are expected to handle 500 people. On the contrary, a person of the same age abroad would have handled just 25 people. There would be a huge mismatch in roles and responsibilities. Furthermore, having worked in clearly defined roles and fixed working hours, it may seem a little difficult to cope with long working hours in India.

The transition phase that seems too difficult and long initially, is offset by the advantages of being with one's own people and having a secure job. People who find it difficult to cope with the Indian working environment sometimes migrate to MNC offshoring companies, which offer a US-like culture. Indian companies are gradually adopting global practices. The trend of taking care of employees has increased significantly. Since the entire relocation process is handled professionally, returnees are not complaining.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<b>When India broke its piggy bank</b>


All along those 40 plus vote greedy congress blue years of ruling and fooling gullible Indian masses of Hindu stock and placating Mohammedans for their survival, when left their legacy to BJP in nineties, India was all but bankrupt nation (900 million of FOREX good only for a week's import) at the verge of default. For mismanagement, permit raj, embezzlement and corruption were congress's hallmark. Please note here that even the exchequer becomes orphan without finances. What a hand over


Why do you think Bank of England became our favorite international pawn shop where we pledged our 400 tons of gold by chartered flight? This is another matter though that India possesses approximately 33,000 tons of gold worth 400 billion dollars at today's governed prices at bullion exchanges, against the official reservoir of 400 tons.


Thats when India broke its piggy bank. At that given time all that glittered was gold for India. For it was only and the last choice to save ourselves on default that would have automatically applied brakes on India's future borrowing as a defaulter nation on the lines of Somalia and Sudan.


More, future loans were not forthcoming anyway as there was a coercion by IMF/WB whose stalwarts with veto power were reluctant to ink any deal with India as long as we don't open our economy. The situation thus demanded that India do what it has been told to - And Mr. Man Mohan Singh relented, not that he wanted to, he was forced to. It is noteworthy that even Saudi has a veto at IMF among crucial 11 members who can make or break any nation by choking their economy by not sanctioning loans adequately or releasing them in timely fashion.


India was lucky enough to have not defaulted, otherwise those nuclear ayatollahs of  state department were hovering like vulture to feast upon indian cadaver by rolling back India's nukes under future financial blakmail. Nuclear Walmart pakistan is no concern to them - India is.

US is India's stealth enemy with unwritten charter, let General S. Padmanabhan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM (Retd.) testify on my behalf with his book - The Writing on the Wall: India Checkmates America 2017

US has junked all the international treaties and replaced them with their own pre-emption doctrine thus making sure we live as per the laws of jungle where dog eats dog. Lamentably here that Indian elephant errs by considering a chinese lion and pakistani heyna as a enemy while leaving the poacher alone - Mr USA.


It is here that BJP kicked in with nationalistic qualities and vigor with Atal Advani combo of dove and hawk who took the helm of this sinking Indian ship and started to patch it by floating it by virtue of issuance of India's resurgent bonds which were sold instantly than expected. This is where Advaniji (a Sindhi lawyer) played a crucial role by visiting Sindhi businessmen in Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai, London and persuading Indian Diaspora to help India Inc. at that crucial juncture.


So far in India he is the only national leader of courage and character who had galls to show his displeasure at state department official and almost shout at them with regard to Pakistan's terrorism when there was high alert of war scenario between India and Pakistan. And his acumen to cement Indo-Israeli relation in defense and counter terrorism, bring the MOSSAD knowledge home at RAW doorstep - What a match maker in Indo Israeli marriage!


You have to believe above when you hear Israeli Ambassador talking about him in the following manner:

"Mr. Advani is a very unique man. I like him very much. Ideologically and personally he reminds me of some people from an earlier generation of Israelis."


Qutbuddin Aziz, former minister in Pakistan embassy in London, wrote an excellent article, titled 'Dangerous Nexus between Israel & India.' It was published by a prominent Pakistani newspaper on April 1, 2001.

Aziz writes: "Top secret details of Indian Home Minister LK Advani's visit to Israel in June 2000, show that the deals he has struck with the Israelis would make India and Israel partners in threatening the Muslim world with diabolic conspiracies to fragment and cripple it as a political force in the world. The details of his meetings with Israel's rulers, particularly the heads of the Israeli Home Ministry and its intelligence agencies, Mossad and Sabak, reveal that the arrangements he has made for joint Indo-Israel espionage operations in key areas of the Muslim world would make the Indian embassies in these Muslim countries the eyes and ears of the worldwide cloak-and-dagger Israeli spy network.

I think in today's India (where nationalistic qualities are hard to come by) people like Advaniji should be considered our national asset besides Lata Mangeshkar, and others, leaving Ayodhya issue and subsequent stereotype rants of SABRANG and FOIL who are flourishing in India with ISI funds. It was the cocktail of such anti national forces who persuaded the editor of Rediff, Ajit Balakrishnan, to axe Varsha Bhosle who wanted to expose their ties to ISI, by challenging these NGOs to produce the proof of origin of funds utilized to fight Hindus and hindutwa.

BJP delivered what they had promised - Nukes, even by deceiving a institution like CIA and ruffling their feathers in the process where couple of heads rolled due to this.


No wonder that shree Advaniji tops ISI's hit list while sonia walks tall, and the irony being that our majority hindu folks dont realise this. Mahatir mohammed of malaysia, freind of ISI, did not extradite Ottavio Quattrochi under a big conspricy to save sonia despite Interpole's red alert.


Our nation owes a big salute to BJP Inc who transformed our bankrupt nation into a solvent one with approximately 130 billion USD of FOREX never thought of. And boys what a luxury for congress once again to loot and plunder this hard earned savings of India.

Consider this; As soon as congress stepped in at Delhi they showered a largesse of 24,000 crores on Kashmir - entire GDP of Republic of Vanuatu, without putting a simple condition that those displaced pundits be rehabilitated first, remember no country can thrive wherein the majority is trampled upon.

If Hindus of India don't unite together and vote for parties like BJP to counter Muslim's voting en masse who thereby help congress, then India (which does not have adequate gold and crude deposits) will not have a bright future under the hung parliament of tomorrow. We wont be able to amend our constitution for the likes of UCC reform beside other important national issues.

Hindu fusion (unity) should be the soup of the day.

Think 3D

Keshto Patel

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Note to Admin: I see a thread on monitoring communists only. We need a broader thread to catalog the activities against India in general and Hindus in particular. This will help as a reference to identify the anti-India people and entities. We should keep the discussion to minimum but only record the anti-India and anti-Hindu activities.

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In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

'HARDBALL' HOST WITHDRAWS FROM CONTROVERSIAL FL EVENT Convention will honor Indian official linked to Gujarat massacre

(WASHINGTON, D.C., 3/9/05) - A prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group today applauded MSNBC "Hardball" host Chris Matthews' decision not to speak at a Florida convention that will honor an Indian official accused of complicity in the massacre of Muslim civilians. SEE: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/

A representative for Matthews told the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) that a "scheduling conflict" will prevent him from attending the annual convention of the Asian American Hotel Owners Association (AAHOA) later this month in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. Narendra Modi, Chief Minister of the Indian state of Gujarat, is a keynote speaker at the convention...

The political and semi-political parties (NGOs/NPOs/etc) with religious affiliations (fondly called secular in Bharat and consists of CommiePakis), and leanings - left and center, Red, Green & White, continue back tracking and betraying their promises.

These spawned movements can get no direct representation in any of the party structure, and their own leaders have failed them through and through. This constant and continous exploitation of these people - resulting only in a vote bank - has left them ill equipped to guide their own actions/destiny as well as in forming an alternative political front.

The so called reprensetatives have come with ingenious slogans and theories, spread by the activists of the new movements; yet no new alternative, no differently articulated version of social justice has as yet emerged as a political force. If anything the only issue that ever comes to the forefront is - pet agendas, petty grudges of the reformists and activists. Society as such as become hostage to their experimentation with discarded political and social theories of the west and elsewhere.

These instigated movements have constantly used dalits and other weaker sections of the society, to further divide the society. In doing so, these movements are eroding their victims' identity, culture, religion and distancing them from the very people they should be dealing with to solve their very real problems they face - socially, politically and on other fronts. In short the activists have tried everything under the sun, including instigating the said unfortunate Indians to violence and anti-national activities.

Now, Can we provide an alternative framework, where reformation, reconciliation and mutual understanding that will result in a strong, vibrant India - India that is for everyone.

We have one thread for "Caste/Religious Persecution" to highlight how propagandists and politicians use dalit issues and dalits as cannonfodder to further perpetuate a persecution complex.

We have another thread for "Caste/Religion based Reservation" to discuss the merits or lack there of such policies and impact.

This thread will raise the altitude to take stock of the situation - Big Picture - and discuss realistic solutions for reformation and reconciliation within a framework whose parameters are acceptable to everyone, and not just a single party in the mix and throw out the instigators and self-appointed reformers and revisionists.

With apologies to Sun Tzu for twisting the name of his ageless work on statecraft, I wish to start a topic thats familiar territor for most IFites and BRites. In I-F we have touched upon some aspects of this through our Ithihasa-Purana, Indian History and Pre Modern Warfare threads but we must look deeper into the texts to reveal the very subtle and hidden wisdom of our ancient thought.
By the very title Arth (Meaning) of War, I wish to find out if we have a well thought out and comprehensive approach to War.....War and the whole baggage of war.
Things like why war, how and when to start a war, what justifies the war, whats the moral foundation of the conflict, how to *continue* the war till some sort of "decision" is reached......and the obvious post mortem of the conflict. A very good (maybe the only) Indian pointer to the whole process of conlict is the Mahabharata.

The question will become more clear after the reader carefully studies some insights from a BRF thread...I shall freely quote them in order in the following posts so as to create some sort of a synopsis on the idea. I will post the relevant stuff here with permission.......

Thanks.

Thread archive available at http://indiaforumarchives.blogspot.com/200...arat-riots.html


In the list of all those ex-Presidents, ex-Babus, ex-Judges etc who find their consicience after they've left the office, add one more name: ex-President K R Narayanan who made it to the top solely by his virtue of birth.
Here he's dissing ABV with his 'Vajpayee didn’t do anything effective’ tirade in a Malayalam magazine edited by Congress MLA P.T. Thomas.

Could it be he's getting back to ABV for not extending his tenure in Rashtrapati Bhavan? Does this dork know that the division of army was sent to Gujarat smack in the middle of the largest mobilization in the sub-continent i.e., Operation Parakram. That too within 16 hours of the start of the riots! Rajiv Gandhi (PM), PVNR (Home Minister) didn't call the army for whole 5 days in Delhi, nation's capital!! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

State News and Discussion -II is renamed as Jharkhand and Goa Governor role.

Earlier version of this thread archived at.. http://indiaforumarchives.blogspot.com/200...discussion.html

Earlier version of this thread can be found at http://indiaforumarchives.blogspot.com/200...ere-psyops.html

read the caption
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<i>What is the link between this picture and Jharkhand story? </i>

In this thread I shall use the principle of association
to create a list of anti-hindu charities
These are run by commies, south asians, xtian missionaries etc
Often these charities have hindu sounding names

If an organisation condemns the Gujurat riots without a much stronger condemnation of the Godhra fire, if an organisation calls itself south asian, if an organisation has not condemned the ethnic cleansing of kashmiri pandits pre-1995
and bangladeshi hindus pre 1995, these fall under anti-hindu organisations

A further sanity check, if an organisation bleats about secularism without condeming xtian missionaries and madrasas, it again qualifies as anti-hindu

Next I use guilt by association, any organisation supported by a known anti-hindu organisation is considered suspect unless verified further

G.S