<b>Blasts kill 12 in Pakistan's Lahore</b>

La-whore is very busy

K'taka poll delay: BJP may explore legal option

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Speaking to media persons in Bangalore, BJP leader and former Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa said that as per constitutional provisions, <b>elections must be conducted within six months of dissolution of the assembly.

President's rule was imposed in the state on November 20, 2007 and assembly dissolved on November 28.</b>

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Nuclear deal is so important for Queen and Moron Singh that they are ready to empty banks, and even thinking of election. Major problem, people had short memory plus inflation is so high, it will offset everything.

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US ELECTIONS: INDIA POLICY
The Injun Incline
How do the India strategies of the US presidential hopefuls stack up? ......
Ashish Kumar Sen

* Barack Obama
Voted for killer amendments to the Hyde Act. Behind the clause asking US to urge other nations from providing nuclear fuel if it cuts off supply. Opposed outsourcing, dubbed Hillary "Democrat from Punjab".
* Hillary Clinton
The most popular candidate among Indians. Shares her husband's love for India. But she came out late in support of the nuke deal. Voted for killer amendments to the Hyde Act. Indian Muslims wary of her.
* John Mccain
Voted against killer amendments to the Hyde Act. Considered best for India's interest as he is most likely to persist with Bush's US policy. More popular among Hindus. Most doctors of Indian origin back him.

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Months before the current race to win party nomination for contesting the US presidential election began, Illinois senator Barack Obama was considered an underdog among the Democratic Party pack. He wasn't expected to vanquish New York senator Hillary Clinton. She possessed the charisma of the Clinton name, a face already famous, a history people knew. Yet the message of hope Obama embodies in his elegant speeches has helped him tap into the nation's craving for change, enabling him to squeeze past Hillary in both the number of states and delegates won.

Yet the race for the Democratic Party nomination is still open. Should neither Obama nor Hillary reach the 2,025-delegate mark to win the nomination, their fate will be in the hands of 796 superdelegates. Drawn from a pool of party officials, elected representatives, former officials and activists, these superdelegates are free to cast their votes for either candidate at the party's convention in Denver in August.

By contrast, the Republican Party appears to have a nominee—Arizona senator John McCain, a war hero who was first elected to the US Senate in 1986. His closest rival, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, trails by a significant margin and has maths and most political pundits stacked against him. Most agree that one of the three candidates—Obama, Hillary and McCain—will take the baton from George Bush to become the next US president.

Outlook thought the moment opportune to analyse and judge the three from the perspective of New Delhi—Who among them would best suit India's interests? The verdict depends on the answer to another question: Who among the troika can sustain the momentum in Indo-US ties?

Most Indians are likely to name Hillary, largely because her charismatic husband and former president Bill created a veritable buzz on his visit to India in 2000. Though as first lady she didn't accompany her husband, she did subsequently fly down to India with her daughter, Chelsea. Yet the advantage of her familiarity with India could be offset should she, if she is elected, bring back those officials who belong to the 1990s era when Indo-US relations were frosty. Hillary is also the Democratic co-chair of the Friends of India Caucus in the Senate. But the caucus has done little to serve its intended purpose.

Others say the best way of judging the three candidates is to scrutinise the position each took on the Indo-US nuclear deal and their voting pattern on different clauses of the Hyde Act 2006 that paved way for cooperation in civilian nuclear energy between the two countries. Hillary, for instance, supported the deal well after most of her colleagues had placed their cards on the table.

Hillary and Obama's voting records on the Hyde Act are similar. Both backed California Democratic senator Barbara Boxer's killer amendment that sought to link nuclear cooperation to India severing military-to-military ties with Iran.

<span style='color:red'><b>Review of "Astronomical Dating of Events & Select Vignettes from Indian history"</b></span>
<b>Edited by Kosla Vepa PhD</b>
ISBN 978-1-4357-1120-4

http://www.lulu.com/content/2060969

This is an anthology of essays on the distortions that have accreted in the historical narrative of the Indic peoples and their civilization. Most of these egregiously erroneous accretions have been initiated at the behest of the colonial overlord and are the result of preconceived notions on the part of the Colonial Power . These preconceived notions include



The set of assumptions underlying the Aryan Invasion Theory . The most important assumption was that the Indic civilization could not possibly have been the product of the autocthonous peoples of the subcontinent and must have been seeded by a superior race of people from elsewhere.

In order to make this hypothesis stick with some degree of credibility, the other major postulate was that the seeding occurred after the Golden age of Greece (400-600 BCE)and that all of the science developed in the subcontinent was a derivative of the Greeks

The inherent contradictions of the Aryan Invasion Theory by the mythic and yet to be identified Aryan race.

The insistence on clinging to a racial terminology even when it is widely discredited and abandoned elsewhere

The insistence that Indic astronomy , geometry and mathematics was not autochthonous to India but was borrowed from the Greek or the Babylonians,without any evidence

The origin of the Brahmi script becomes a victim of the 'anywhere but India' syndrome

Devaluation and denigration of the extent of the ancient Indic contribution to Mathematics and Astronomy

There are resulting inconsistencies in the chronology of the Indic historical narrative, which is now horribly mangled to fit the straightjacket of British assumptions.



The result is a tectonic shift in the Chronology of the Indic civilization, with the resulting falsification of most of the important dates

Dating of the Mahabharata
Dating of the Satapatha Brahmana
Dating of the Veda
Dating of the Vedanga Jyotisha
Dating of the Sulva sutras
Beginning of the Vikrama era
Dating of the Buddha
Dating of the Arthashastra
Dating of Chandragupta Maurya
Dating of Panini's Ashtadhyayi and consequentially the dating of Panini himself
Dating of Aryabhata



Such a distortion has resulted in vast gaps in the narrative of the history of the Indics and has resulted in absurdities such as the naming of the calendar after a person who is yet to be born.

This collection of papers , summarizes these lacunae in the chronology and advocates the use of Astronomical Software to determine the accurate dates.

Another bunch of losers that are unhappy that their pseudo secularist propanganda history is not being taught to children to brainwash them into hating themselves and their culture.

A Critique of Inter-country Adoption
by Lee Sam-dol (Tobias)

warning: strong language used

<span style='color:red'>Is being Indian not enough?</span>
Tarun Vijay

I thought being an Indian is enough till I saw people being killed and ousted for not being Maharashtrian and contributing 'appropriately' for the cause of Maratha culture.

But how do I convert to their version of a good citizenship so that my existence in Mumbai and Nashik is not under threat?

First it's difficult to explain to which state I really belong. My father hailed from Punjab and my mother came from Rajasthan. They settled down in a city, which was, then under UP, but has now become the capital of a newly created hill state.

I was born and brought up there, so by birth I can be a UPwallah Bhaiya though now I shall be called a Garhwali. My brother married a UP girl; my sister was married in a Haryana village. One niece married a Tam-Bram -- I hope you understand Tamil Brahmin. The other married a Telugu boy and my nephew fell in love with a Bengali girl.

That's my family. I worked as a tribal activist in Maharashtra and Gujarat and learnt Marathi with my friends, all of whom were pucca Maharashtrians.

I loved Marathi food, read and spoke Marathi and being in the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh almost all of us colleagues had a great reverence for Maharashtra. RSS founder Dr Keshav Baliram Hedgewar was a Maharashtrian. So was Dr Bhim Rao Ambedkar. Vinayak Damodar Savarkar was a Maharashtrian and, of course, the great Shivaji, who elevated the sense of being an Indian like our other heroes such as Guru Govind Singh and Raja Raja Chola.

I never felt that being a Maratha was an overwhelming identity for a warrior like Shivaji till I saw a huge billboard of Shivaji's picture in Nagpur on the way to the airport.

It said -- salutations to the 'Great Kurmi Mahapurush of Maharashtra'. I saw it twice to ensure that the eulogy was written for the hero whom I thought was a great Indian icon. Yes, Shivaji was Kurmi and the Kurmi Mahasangh was celebrating their caste hero. I was perplexed, if Shivaji is a Kurmi hero, how could I feel proud of him because I am not a Kurmi?

In fact long back I had removed the caste tag from my name under the influence of some old pracharaks of the Sangh, who held an archaic belief that caste identities are of no significance in our society and we must assert our identity as Hindus only.

I think they were wrong because after having spent so many decades in Delhi I have found that caste is the only identity that matters in today's vibrant, dynamic and futuristic India.

I married a girl who hails from Garhwal, a Bisht, and it was certainly an inter-caste marriage with everyone's consent. Till then we had held the belief that being an Indian is enough, that caste and provincial marks belong to a bygone era. To be modern and forward looking means to show your acumen and win a place of honour through merit.

Enough?

Not exactly. You have to prove that you have done enough for upholding the cause of the state where you are trying your luck. Most states have this provision. The law of Bhumiputra -- or the son of the soil principle -- is applied everywhere. Beginning from Jammu and Kashmir, where no Indian can buy land or get admission in a professional college unless s/he has a state residentship certificate. Thanks to the constitutional provision of Article 370, J&K is bestowed another special privilege, a separate red flag with a plough. It is hoisted along side the national tricolour.

If any woman of the state marries an Indian who is not a citizen of J&K, she loses her state subject status and their children lose the right to admission in any state run/ aided college. It's a punishment for being an Indian rather than being just a Kashmiri.

Dr Syama Prasad Mookerjee was a Bengali, he was also the youngest-ever vice-chancellor of Calcutta University. But he chose to agitate for removing the ominous provisions of two flags, two constitutions and two heads of state for Kashmir. He died mysteriously in Sheikh Abdullah's jail in Srinagar and not even a magisterial enquiry was conducted.

And with that ended the unification efforts.

If you try to enter a northeastern state like Nagaland or Arunachal Pradesh, you will be required to obtain an Inner line Permit, started by the British to strengthen the isolation of NEFA (North Eastern Frontier Agency) areas. We continue with that and one has to state before a prescribed authority for how many days one is visiting the state, the purpose, where will he stay. Then there has to be a guarantor who is required to sign that within the stipulated period the person applying for permission to enter the state will go back.

This much for the national integration through government routes. But nothing of this applies to Bangladeshi infiltrators or jihadis. They are welcomed and given ration cards and enlisted as Indian citizens. The last time when I was in Nagaland, the then home minister said the state had approximately 75,000 illegal Bangladeshi infiltrators, who had entered the state without inner line permits obviously.

Being an infiltrator doesn't bother anyone, but North Indians in Mumbai, mostly Hindus, have to be targeted for vote bank politics.

In India, to be an Indian alone is a deficiency factor. You have to be a Jat, Gujjar, SC or ST or Yadav, or Muslim to live with political support and get state protection and aid.

The less your Indian-ness is pronounced, and more micro-identities are projected the chances to move forward and benefit brighten up.

So like the Haj subsidy, Andhra's Christian chief minister has announced subsidies for Christians going to Israel for pilgrimage. He hasn't uttered a word about Kailas Manasarovar pilgrims who go to Tibet for pilgrimage.

Definitely in politics a pan Indian outlook and belonging to a majority is a Ghate ka sauda -- a matter of loss.

Therefore, I find that to live a secured and politically correct life in India, it is better to have a provincial identity than just be an Indian.

Kindly get me a proselytiser who can certifiably convert me to be a Maratha or a Maharashtrian. At least I will belong to someone who would consider me his own. My broader Rashtra is lost in a shrunk Maharashtra.

Tarun Vijay is Editor, Panchjanya, the RSS weekly.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/feb/15guest.htm

Dear Members/Moderators,

I do not see any other thread appropriate for this topic, which is why I am posting it as a separate topic. Hope that's ok.

When we look around the world, we see that most things are done for profit. Even ethics and principles take a back seat more often than not. People who're anti-Hindu, for instance, do so because it's profitable. It has nothing to do with the truth. Suppose we try to convince someone of the good things of Hindu Nationalism, he's more likely to ask, "What's in it for me?" How many times we've talked to our friends about Ram temple, only to be responded to with a casual, "Who cares about temples? We need to focus on economics, we need to create jobs, eradicate poverty...." It's the same old story. People prefer profits and practicality to nationalism, pride, and pretty much everything else.

That being the case, how to make Hindu Nationalism profitable, so that more people can join us? Is it possible for us HNs to get together and start something along these lines? Some online biz venture, by and for Hindu Nationalists? Something innovative yet profitable, so that we'll grow financially, which in turn might help us develop a nationalist org catering to Hindus?

There are many creative people around here, let's discuss this.

Warmly,
Suresh

<b>Maharishi Mahesh Yogi dies </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->THE HAGUE, Netherlands - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a guru to the Beatles who introduced the West to transcendental meditation,<b> died Tuesday at his home in the Dutch town of Vlodrop, a spokesman said. He was thought to be 91 years old</b>.

<b>"He died peacefully at about 7 p.m.," said Bob Roth, a spokesman for the Transcendental Meditation movement that the Maharishi founded. He said his death appeared to be due to "natural causes, his age."</b>
Once dismissed as hippie mysticism, the Hindu practice of mind control that Maharishi taught, called transcendental meditation, gradually gained medical respectability.

He began teaching TM in 1955 and brought the technique to the United States in 1959. But the movement really took off after the Beatles visited his ashram in India in 1968, although he had a famous falling out with the rock stars when he discovered them using drugs at his Himalayan retreat.

With the help of celebrity endorsements, Maharishi — a Hindi-language title for Great Seer — parlayed his interpretations of ancient scripture into a multi-million-dollar global empire.

After 50 years of teaching, Maharishi turned to larger themes, with grand designs to harness the power of group meditation to create world peace and to mobilize his devotees to banish poverty from the earth.

Maharishi's roster of famous meditators ran from The Rolling Stones to Clint Eastwood and new age preacher Deepak Chopra.

Director David Lynch, creator of dark and violent films, lectured at college campuses about the "ocean of tranquility" he found in more than 30 years of practicing transcendental meditation.

Some 5 million people devoted 20 minutes every morning and evening reciting a simple sound, or mantra, and delving into their consciousness.

"Don't fight darkness. Bring the light, and darkness will disappear," Maharishi said in a 2006 interview, repeating one of his own mantras.
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He started a big movement