<!--emo&:ind--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/india.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='india.gif' /><!--endemo--> <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Impact'>I have a friend in India who underwent schooling in SainikSchool and used to be a good boxer in his school days. Next, I met him waiting as volunteer outside Shri Ram Sharanam temple. I, also, used to join him off and on.
BUT during my discussions w/ him, I will always say that Subhash bhai that today's requirement is not only Bhakti but bhakti w/ Shakti.
Look at the history, a handful of Mohmedans looted and razed to ground many temples unopposed but Babri Masjid demolition required all Hindus to unite. And last word is not yet written.
People will tell you that Namaj is based on Asanas but are you taking credit for it? It's a standing shame that we are not practising Asanas.
Therefore, I have thought of starting Yoga temples. Please join me.
Thanks.</span></span>

I am happy there is a debate on this issue, atleast vast Hindu population will think again, how Muslim/commie historians twisted facts and create fantasy and so-called love story.

Dear Friends,

I am a new member, even though I did lurk around for a while to learn more about this wonderful forum. Still, I am not sure if it's ok to start new topics, so if I've transgressed any rules, my apologies.

I found an interesting article, which hints at Nehru having become 'more Hindu' toward the end of his life. The reason for my posting this article is simple. Nehru being one of the most popular leaders amongst Indians, why can't hindutvadis project him as a Hindutvadi? This isn't weird, if you consider how Leftists, who once hated and vilified people like Bose, Vivekananda etc. are now praising these people, even carrying their banners during political meetings. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Point is, these clever leftists have 'robbed' these Hindu Nationalist to suit their needs, after having understood public mood.

Going by the same logic, why can't we 'use' Nehru to convince the secular breed of Hindus, rather than attack him, and make more enemies within our community? By praising this man as a Hindu Nationalist, wouldn't it be easier to convert more secular, Nehruvian Hindus to our ideology?

I hope I am making sense. Anyway, it's good to be here. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Here's the link to the article. http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.p...pid=187&page=31

Warmly,
Suresh

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/...,530129,00.html

A very interesting article. German article xlated to english. The article makes several interesting points but not even once thinks its important enough to mention that Obama is black and that actually might (just might) be a factor with white voters in the US of A.

I read somewhere before the Iowa primaries that Republicans said Obama was the guy to watch. How many amongst us think that, if nominated, Obama's race might give a significant advantage to Republicans ?

Question for US politics guroos -> Has anybody seen any surveys that analyzes the race factor in Obama's nomination ? Any surveys, interviews etc ? I am really curious to know

1. whether race is really a non-issue in Obama's case ?
2. whether race-as-a-factor has been debated in the open enough or is it something that just stays in the background - a dont-ask-dont-tell type thing ?
3. whether it has been debated plenty and the society has accepted a black man as a-ok for the top-post in western world.

I suppose there will be a good amount of news, analysis and debate about reorganizing the Indian States and resulting formation of newer states (Telangana from AP, Bundelkhand & Purvanchal from UP, Vidarbha from Maharashtra etc) particularly after the announcement of the proposla to form a second SRC.

So I suppose a new thread may be in order. Mods please merge with another thread if so thought to be better organized.

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Conspiracy is the only way we can explain the origins of the cultural terrorism known as Christianity. Something so extraordinary requires an extraordinary genesis.

Harshvardhan but to target you first have to know what these retards are saying, at any rate the above aricle i posted is so crackpot that the only one's who can believe it are either full fledged islamists/commies/psecs/missionaries or braindead fools, anyway i get your point and will minimise posting such trash.

Happy Sankranti to all!


http://www.salagram.net/parishad110.htm

Tata Nano a hit with middle class even before launch

As the world awaits the formal rollout of Tata Nano from the Singur factory in West Bengal, car buying dynamics in India seem to be undergoing a subtle change.

Most believe Nano’s price is very attractive and affordable. People who own entry-level cars are now thinking of going in for either one Nano — in view of its fuel efficiency — or maybe two, which will cost the same as their existing car. So, there would be one car for the head of the family and another for the family.

Take the case of Sudarshana Sarkar. The school teacher has already enquired about Nano at a city-based Tata dealer. “I particularly liked the yellow Nano. It has a style of its own. It’s affordable and looks quite comfortable. It’s good for a small family. I am keen to know when bookings will kick off,” she said.

Tata dealers are flooded with queries from prospective buyers. “Nano will be a runaway hit. People, mainly the middle-class, are anxiously waiting for it. After it was unveiled on Thursday, we have started receiving thousands of calls from potential buyers,” said Binod Agarwal of Lexus Motors. Not surprising, considering the country’s middle-class numbers several million.

Small car owners are upbeat too. “It’s not a bad option to have a Nano for the family. After all, Ratan Tata did assert the car meets all safety standards. So my children can go to school and my wife for her shopping in Nano,” said small-time businessman Apurv Shah.

Prodyut Mitra, an employee with United Bank of India, seconded the emotion: “I commute by a motorcycle and am keen to buy a Nano. I hope banks will come up with soft financing options for the car.”

Sahana Ganguly, a home maker, is, however, more cautious. “It’s an affordable car, no doubt. But I would rather wait a year before buying it, just to see what the experience is like,” she said. It’s a different matter though that after a year, the car’s price may be revised, if the company wants to mark it to the market vis-a-vis raw material input prices.

The car’s nano space requirement for parking is believed to be yet another purchase point trigger. “Three Nanos can easily fit into the space occupied by two Ambassadors,” an auto analyst quipped.

“Two Nanos can be effortlessly parked in a typical Scorpio parking slot. So, in metros, where parking is a huge problem, Nano could be a hit,” he added.



http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Tata_N...how/2694189.cms

<b>US officials helped Pak steal nuke secrets: Report</b>
6 Jan 2008, 1446 hrs IST ,PTI
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LONDON: Senior US officials have helped Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets, a whistlebloweer has claimed.

Intercepted communications showed former ISI chief Mahmoud Ahmad and his colleagues stationed in Washington were in constant contact with attaches in the Turkish embassy, according to The Sunday Times.

Sibel Edmonds, a 37-year-old former Turkish language translator for the FBI, listened into hundreds of sensitive intercepted conversations while based at the agency's Washington field office, it said.

She approached the newspaper last month after reading about an Al-Qaida terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.

Edmonds described how foreign intelligence agents had enlisted the support of US officials to acquire a network of moles in sensitive military and nuclear institutions.

According to Edmonds, she heard evidence that one well-known senior official in the US State Department was being paid by Turkish agents in Washington who were selling the information on to black market buyers, including Pakistan.

Intelligence analysts said that members of the ISI were close to al-Qaeda before and after the 9/11 attacks on the US. Ahmad was accused of sanctioning a 100,000 dollars wire payment to Mohammed Atta, one of the 9/11 hijackers, immediately before the attacks, the report said.

The newspaper claimed that it knew the name of the official, who has held a series of top government posts, but he strongly denies the claims.
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