First it was Cambridge and now Berlin's Institute of Indology. Some of the academic cartels of ignorance and arrogance are shutting down. Right enough our bigoted racists "hostile academics" (Judge Damrell's words) are feeling the pinch.

Witzel and his cronies are on a new crusade to save their dwindling careers and dying profession. Seems like they are desperately seeking funding from NRIs to find 'chairs' for their stinky fat musharaffs. Paki lobby money squeezed tight for moolah? FOSA coffers going broke? FeTNA not offering help since it's busy bailing out it's officers on US gterrorism charges? "Dalit" orgs busy with Christmas collection? We don't know, we might never now - like the fate of that "Arun Vajpayee"

Nevertheless, enjoy some of the emails I've received on this..


<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->How about an online petition congratulating Cambridge and the Berlin school authorities?

Apart from creating distortions and indulging in motivated denigration, what has indology contributed to unraveling the bharatiya traditions, ethos and civilizational inheritance?

I for one would congratulate Berlin's Institute of Indology for planning to close it down. Same goes for the closure of indolgy studies elsewhere outside of Bharatam. Bharatiya studies should be studied of bharatiya, for bharatiya and NOT allowed to be kept unde seige by eurocentric creationists. Arya, ayya, leave us alone; we have had enough of the colonial loot followed by william jones type indologists wearing skull-caps. It is reparation settlement time.

Some moves are afoot to tap funds from wealthy NRIs. I hope NRIs will see through the pathetic plight of eurocentric creationists who are themselves to blame for the emergency situation they find themselves in. Solution? Do prayas'cittam. Penance on Alps or Colorado heights may help. Of course, some may prefer Nepal or even China. There is little prospect that witzelites will really care to instill a sense of pride in the children in schools studying Hindu civilization. The mess is too deep for tears.
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<b>Minorities must have first claim on resources: PM</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->New Delhi, Dec 09: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Saturday said plans for minorities, particularly Muslims, must have the "first claim" on resources so that benefits of development reach them equitably.
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He is a Sikh, so its his first right, We Hindus, original people with original religion should not claim anything. He should go back to Pakistan, his birth place.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>BJP, its CMs condemn PM`s remarks on minority plans  </b>link
New Delhi, Dec 09: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Saturday stirred a hornet's nest by his remarks that plans for minorities, Muslims in particular, must have the first claim on resources, with the BJP, its chief ministers and the RSS condemning it as having communal overtones.

"Such a statement does not behove a senior leader like the Prime Minister. It is unfortunate," Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, generally known for his anti-Muslim rhetoric, told reporters after the conclusion of the NDC meeting.

He insisted that every citizen, irrespective of his caste and creed should have equal right over the resources of the country.

Such sentiments were echoed by Madhya Pradesh and Chhatisgarh chief ministers Shivraj Singh Chouhan and Raman Singh respectively. While Chouhan said that the Prime Minister's statement was "not only inappropriate but is dangerous also," Singh said that economic backwardness should be the sole criteria.

The RSS was more acerbic in the attack on the Prime Minister remarking that "this is precisely the language used by Mohammad Ali Jinnah before the partition."

"It is unfortunate our leaders have not learnt lessons from the tragic partition. They are pursuing the same politics of religion for electoral benefits," RSS leader Ram Madhav said.

"This is very unfortunate, appalling for a Prime Minister to say so," BJP chief Rajnath Singh said separately.

Haryana Chief Minister Bhupendra Singh Hooda of Congress, however, justified the Prime Minister's remarks saying it should be seen in the context that majoirty of Muslims are poor.
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<b>'PM echoes Jinnah's language on Muslims'</b>

Not sure how many of you know... I dont see any main stream media reporting this...

1) Raghavendra Mutt @ Erode desecrated, the main idl of Shri Rama broken and thrown in the streets ...
http://dinamalar.com/2006dec08/specialne...p?newsid=4

2) Shankara Mutt is Salem vandalized.
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2006/...anchi.html

3) Couple of Ganapathi Mandirs at Villupuram and other places vandalized
http://dinamalar.com/2006dec08/specialne...p?newsid=1

4) Petrol bombs hurled at Ayodhya Mantap at heart of Chennai, devotees targetted particularly brahmins...

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<b>Old thread</b> Link


Australian muslim schoolboys urinate on Bible
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<b>Muslim boys urinated on Bible</b>
Cameron Stewart
December 06, 2006
TWO Muslim students have been expelled from an Islamic school in Melbourne for urinating and spitting on a Bible and setting it on fire.
The explosive incident has forced the East Preston Islamic College to call in a senior imam to tell its 650 Muslim students that the Bible and Christianity must be respected.

Anxious teachers at the school have also petitioned principal Shaheem Doutie, expressing "grave concern" about an "inculcation of hatred and radical attitudes towards non-Muslims" at the school, including towards non-Muslim teachers.

The Bible desecration took place last week at a school camp held near Bacchus Marsh, about 50km west of Melbourne, attended by 33 teenage Muslim boys ranging in age from Year7 to Year 10.
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I feel it important to list the major terrorist attacks that have occured in India due to pakistani sponsored terrorism. Too often we lapse into a sense of ease, and it would we wise to remember and realise the danger we face with pakistan as our neighbour and its constant threat to our society.

The list is compiled from wiki but i feel there's a lot more to be added. Hopefully we can start to understand why GOI needs to be pro active with regards to dealing with pakistan and not reactive whenever another blast occurs.

<b>1)</b> 1993 March 12 : Mumbai car bombings in India leave 257 dead with 1,400 others injured.

<b>2)</b> 1998 January : Wandhama Massacre - 24 Kashmiri Pandits are massacred by Pakistan-backed insurgents in the city of Wandhama in Indian-controlled Kashmir.

<b>3)</b> 1998 February 14 : Coimbatore bombings - Bombings by suspected Islamic Jihadi groups on an election rally in Indian city of Coimbatore kill about 60 people.

<b>4)</b> 1999 December 24 : Indian Airlines Flight 814 from Kathmandu, Nepal to Delhi, India is hijacked. One passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released in exchange for release of 4 terrorists.

<b>5)</b> 2001 October 1: A car bomb explodes near the Jammu and Kashmir state assembly in Srinagar, India killing 35 people and injuring 40 more.

<b>6)</b> 2001 December 13 : Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.

<b>7)</b> 2002 September 10 : A train derailment in India kills 130 people in the Rafiganj rail disaster. Naxalite terrorism is suspected.

<b>8)</b> 2002 September 25 : Two terrorists belonging to the Jaish-e-Mohammed group raid the Akshardham temple complex in Ahmedabad, India killing 30 people and injuring many more.

<b>9)</b> 2002 December 21: Kurnool train crash, Islamic extremists derail a train and kill 20 people in India.

<b>10)</b> 2003 August 25 : At least 48 people were killed and 150 injured in two blasts in south Mumbai - one near the Gateway of India at the other at the Zaveri Bazaar.

<b>11)</b> 2005 July 5 : Terrorist attack on Ayodhya – Six terrorists belonging to Lashkar-e-Toiba storm the Ayodhya Ram Janmbhomi complex in India. Before the terrorists could reach the main disputed site, they were shot down by Indian security forces. One devotee and two policemen were injured.

<b>12)</b> 2005 : July 28: Jaunpur train bombing: 13 are killed when militants detonate a bomb on a commuter train in India.

<b>13)</b> 2005 : October 29: Multiple bomb blasts hit markets in Delhi, India, leaving at least 61 dead and more than 200 injured

<b>14)</b> 2005 December 28 : Two or more unidentified gunmen open fire at the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, India, killing a retired professor of mathematics and wounding four others.

15) 2006 March 7 : Bombings in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi, India kill 28 and injures more than 100.

<b>16)</b> 2006 July 11 : A series of explosions rock commuter trains in Mumbai, India, killing 209 and wounding another 714 civilians.

<b>17)</b> 2006 August 16: A bomb exploded in a Hindu temple near Imphal, India, killing three and injuring more than 30.

<b>18)</b> 2006 September 8 : At least 2 bomb blasts target a Muslim cemetery in the western town of Malegaon. The blasts kill 37 people and leave 125 others wounded.

The above i believe is no means comprehensive but it is a start. Was all compiled from wikipedia :
<b>List of terrorist incidents</b>

I shall try to scour and compile for more and will try and edit the list if any are added below. Too many Indian lives however have been sacrificed to terrorism from pakistan. It should be our hope and goal to see that none are done so in the future and pakistan itself as the threat is negated.

<b>Radiation grounds British airliners</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> Radiation found on planes on which poisoned ex-spy was a passenger
• As many as 30,000 passengers have ridden on the planes
• British Airways making efforts to contact all affected customers
• On deathbed, former agent said Russian President Putin had him killed


All three planes had been on the London-Moscow route, British Airways said. In the last three weeks the planes had also traveled to routes across Europe including Barcelona, Frankfurt and Athens. Around 30,000 passengers had traveled on 220 flights on those planes, said Kate Gay, a spokeswoman for the airline.
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Do you think it will really effect passengers in plane or as usual "cold war type of scare tactics"?
How radioactive material able to pass security? European security is much better than US.

<b>India carries out anti-missile test</b>

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I'm interested in any assessment/evaluations of British administrators people may care to provide. Who did the right thing, who did the wrong thing. And why?

To get the ball rolling.... My opinion of Sir Frederick Halliday. Purely a personal opinion based on extensive reading:

A pompous fool, who, during the events of 1857, misread pretty much every sign going, used the situation for personal aggrandizement (and that of his friends) and unfairly cast deep shadows on the careers of people like William Tayler and Dewan Mowla Baksh.

A case could perhaps be made for his (minor) contribution to the Islamic terrorism situation we face today.

Whatever, I'd rate him as a bad 'un. What do others think?

(I'm aware that many other, saints or sinners, may be more significant than Halliday. I, personally, just feel he is someone who should be noted as somewhat repulsive.... and appears to have got away with it)

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An open letter to the Administrators of India Discussion Forum

Hi ,

I live in India and as my name suggests I am a revolutionary Marxist.And i am also an Internationalist who thinks that all the man made invisible and imaginary borders that divide people must go. I believe in class struggle and one day the world wide revolution by proletarians to overthrow all the bourgeoisie's government all over the world is inevitable.

I am also an Atheist. I consider <b>all religions</b> are just opiums to people and must die out inherently. I do not endorse the view of the so called Secularism.

By saying that i am a Marxist i do not endorse the View of the communists parties of India(Marxist,Marxist-Leninist,Maoists). I consider they are all traitors to workers and peasants of India whom they claim to represent. I don't know why they have Communist in their names....

My point here is I am a male of 24 yrs of Age .I work as a computer salesman and i think that the communism based on the Marxist theory will be the only way out for people of the landmass called India. I am not an veteran Marxist but a learner. But my learning had came to a halt since i never discussed about my political views with anybody and i found this place through google search and registerd just some minutes before posting this one.My question is will my views will be discussed by the members of this board with criticisms which will be constructive and mutually usefull to every one or will I be considered as an unwelcome member or considered as a troll ?

i put forth that questions because of some bad experiences in other forums ??? pls reply to my post . i hope will get an positive reply thank you

The linked blog and the accompanying news it carries with pictures is infinitely barbaric. The source of the news and pictures the blogger has used seems to originate from lankaweb.com a virulently anti-hindu (anti tamil translating to anti-hindu, pitting Buddhists vs Hindus and many other things really). The title of both items (Lankaweb and blog) are therefore oppurtunistic. But I'd like readers to read the report which seems fair. It mostly eschews on name calling but reports sincerely on brutal massacre of a lower caste family(even admitting the perpetrators were OBCs which is really pointless in such a gruesome act).

This in many ways is reality that people of lower castes do face. It also is symbolic of what is important to our media (Jessica, Mattoo) and what is purposely left largely unreported.

Here is more info on the incident, unfortunately again from a blog.

WARNING: The links are graphic in nature