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Posted by: Guest - 06-30-2005, 12:46 PM - Forum: Indian Culture
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Friends,
If you are interested in Tamil literature and you are not following the story of Illaiyaraaja's Tiruvasagam Oratoria project please check www.tis-usa.com
I am here to spread the word about this project which I hope will place Tamil Sangam literature high up in the world. Not that any of our cultural contributions to the world require world's attention, it still warms my heart to see that people are making efforts to move it up.
For those interested - buy it and enjoy it. Please don't pirate it. This man's music deserves him to be put among composers of the world. <!--emo&:thumbsup--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbup.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbup.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Posted by: G.Subramaniam - 06-19-2005, 12:34 PM - Forum: Trash Can
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From HinduUnity
ALERT:Anti-Hindu groups trying to discredit Hindu ACTIVISTS
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HERE IS A classic case where a ( christian /commie posing as a Hindu is spreading lies about Hindu activist Mr.Badri ( that he is a cheater) who is working vigorously for Hindu cause , and exposing missionary activities in India .
This mail has been sent to all Hindu groups by one hindu imposter " Balaji Sridharan " , NOW WE ARE persuing agressively on this case , to uncover the true identity of the person / organizzaton to whihc he belong . WE HAVE learnt that members of FOIL / SOUTH ASIAN groups affiliated to Marxist groups are involved in this campaign . This is a second such attempt on hindu activists , earlier they spread a lie on a hindu activist , that he marrying hindu hirls and dumping them after taking dowry .
In comming days you may expect more and more such news , to sow seeds of discontent among pro india / pro hindu groups . PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND SPREAD THIS MESSAGE .
WE LEARNT FROM OUR SOURCES THAT , our rivals have launched an operation called " SAFFRON PSYOPS" with the help of ISI agents to spread mis/dis information .
SPREAD THIS MESSAGE ..... SPREAD THIS MESSAGE
START
Balaji Sridharan used his other email id: balajisridharan2005@singapore.net
I mailed a complaint of abuse to the registrants of the singapore.net as follows:
From: S V Badri <svbadri@gmail.com>
Date: Jun 19, 2005 2:16 AM
Subject: Complaint of abuse mail - singapore.net
To: BALA@apic.net, DIANA@apic.net
Bala Pillai
FBMA Australia Pty Ltd
P O Box 1191
Lane Cove NSW 1595
AU
Telephone: +61.298187700
Fax: +61 2 9818 7711
Dear Mr Bala Pillai,
I wish to report an abuse mail from one Mr Balaji Sridharan, who uses the singapore.net email id, of which your organisation, FBMA Australia Pty Ltd are the registrants.. I am pasting the email so you may know the contents of this abuse.
I intend taking him to court for libel/defamation. I would much appreciate if you could take appropriate actions as the service provider, in this case. I am furnishing all the IP address, and the server address of the originating mail for you to take necessary steps to prevent such abuse of email facility.
Regards,
S V Badri
Chennai, India
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o: mgeditor@indiapost.com, mgsnarayanan@yahoo.com,
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Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:44:41 +0800
Subject: BEWARE OF S.V.BADRI
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From: "BALAJI SRIDHARAN" <balajisridharan2005@singapore.net>
To: mgeditor@indiapost.com, mgsnarayanan@yahoo.com,
mgupta@rogers.com, migovind@myway.com , mirajkary@yahoo.com,
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Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:44:41 +0800
Subject: BEWARE OF S.V.BADRI
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My Beloved Hindu Friends,
WARNING TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU
My Good Friends,
I would like to bring to your immediate attention that one S.V BADRI of Chennai (Tamil Nadu) is a big Fraud.
I had a bitter experience when I had recently made a visit to my native village in Tamil Nadu.
Since The Unforgettable Tsunami Hit our State of Tamil Nadu causing terrible damage to life and Property.
On the other end Our Good Friend Mr. S.V.Badri was busy collecting lakhs of rupees by promising the Philanthrophists to rehabiltate the victims and their families.
I too had made a small contribution of 400 Singapore Dollars (Approx 1,00,000 Indian Rupees) in January through Western Union Money Transfer to our Friend hoping that our Hard earned money will be used for a right cause. But Friends our Money did not reach the needy people as it was swallowed by a phython named S.V.Badri, It is really disgrace on their part who dupe us
and take us for a ride.
I was also under the impression that the money has gone in for right cause, until I personally made a visit to my native in India. I was shocked to hear from the villagers about the opinion they had about S.V. BADRI.
Badri is a well known figure in some part of Tamil Nadu, but friends let me tell you he is not in good books anywhere and his reputation is as worst which cannot be expressed just by words. The Villagers around Chennai and ot her Districts of Tamil Nadu Hated BADRI so much they are not even interested in seeing his face, some villagers turned wild the moment i mentioned about his name. The Villagers said " Badri was not to be seen since last 8 months, he has promised them Moon and had vanished away in the dark, They said, it was the workers of the Hindu Munanai,R.S.S and V.H.P who were present at the time of Crisis and Badri Was nowhere.
When I had made further inquiry about Badri from the Sangh Office in Chennai, No one was willing to talk about him, Infact one Pracharak said that he is an Organisation Trotter, who keeps changing and floating new organisation, Today he is one Org. and tommorow he is in a different Org. After hearing his mindblowing stories, I was very keen to meet Badri as I was not feeling very much comfortable, I tried contacting Badri but he kept avoiding me saying he is busy, But anyhow I had convinced him to meet me. During my Meeting with him, I did inquire about progress about the work for which money was paid, but that Great man had decided not to answer me any questions and left in a huff saying that 'he is busy and Kanchi Shankarayacharya is waiting for him.
It looks like he has also changed his mobile No. just to avoid Donors by questioning him.
It is sheer disgrace and disrespect to all hindus who are coming forward to help such people
There cannot be Hindu Unity at this rate and if this class of people are Leaders, Extinct of hindus is eminent.
My Only request to all Hindu Philanthropists is Please donate to only responsible People who are serious in their cause and not to worthless people like S.V.Badri and Co.
My suggestion is donate to only the Eleven Org. in India Who are seriously working for hinduvta cause.
The Eleven Org. are
1) Vande Maataram Sangathan ( Maharashtra)
2) Dara Sena ( Orissa)
3) Kripalu Hindu Seva Sena ( Uttaranchal)
4) S R D M (Thiruvanthapuram, Kerala)
5) Tiger Yuva Sena (Karnataka)
6) Ekalavya Seva Sena (Ernakulam, kerala)
7) Vanar Sena Dal ( Bengal)
8) Bajrang Dal ( Gujarat)
9) Kripalu Sangh (Ujjain Madhya Pradesh)
10) Kurukshetra Seva Dal (Harayana)
11) Judeo janahit kalyan samsthan ( Chattisgarh)
Friends, I have knowledge of only this eleven orgs. who are sincerely working for Hindutva cause in Bharath and I feel if all this orgs. Unite we will have over 3 Million Sainiks, which is enough to confront any Non-Hindu Orgs.
With Thanks
BALAJI SRIDHARAN
SPPEDMARK GLOBAL TRADING INDIA
SINGAPORE=20
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I had sent an email to Balaji Sridharan as follows:
(balajisridharan@techie.com)
Dear Mr.Balaji Sridharan,
I call upon you to furnish your complete postal address as I intend suing you for slander and defamation for the email you circulated under the heading: Beware of S V Badri
Regards,
S V Badri
Chennai.
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| Anti Brahminism |
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Posted by: Guest - 06-08-2005, 10:34 PM - Forum: Indian Culture
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Guys just wanted to record the following interesting posts from Sri M Kelkar on IC.. Other admins might move the post(s) to appropriate places. I havent read it but would like to read it when I find time..
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndianCivili...n/message/75957
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ANTI - BRAHMANISM, THE NEW COMMUNALISM OF MODERN INDIA: David Frawley
http://www.hindubooks.org/david_frawley/aw...anism/page7.htm
Anti-Brahminism
Koenraad Elst
http://hamsa.org/StThomas_Chapt_4.htm#elst
http://www.geocities.com/ifihhome/articles/mj002.html
The Plight of Brahmins
By Meenakshi Jain
he tragedy of being a Tamil Brahmin
http://www.anothersubcontinent.com/forums/...topic=2088&st=0
http://www.vepachedu.org/Recommendations.html
Recommendations to Brahmana Sadassu
http://www.vepachedu.org/brahmana-tribe.ht...cited_Vedas_are
The Mouths that Recited Vedas are Grieving
http://www.chennaionline.com/colnews/newsi...DE-48F6-9\
775-125C409B40CE%7D&CATEGORYNAME=National
BSP to organise Brahmin Sammelan on Feb 20
http://www.sulekha.com/expressions/article....asp?cid=306467
Myth of Brahminical Hegemony
Moor Nam
Many Brahaman houselholds were burnt in Maharashtra after Gandhi's
assasination. The last name Godse is almost non existant today
because people had it changed.
to be continued.
M. Kelkar<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndianCivili...n/message/75987
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->--- In IndianCivilization@yahoogroups.com, "koenraad_elst"
<koenraad.elst@p...> wrote:
> --- In IndianCivilization@yahoogroups.com, "mkelkar2003"
> <smykelkar@c...> wrote:
> > An anti anti Brahman (and hence a pro Brahman) book is not a good
> idea
> > because Brahmans are the last ones to complain or rely on counter
> > propoganda to repond in kind to Dalistan.
> >
> > M. Kelkar
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> Thanks already for your list of available material. It goes without
> saying that a book on anti-Brahminism should not have the same hateful
> and victimhood-cultivating tone of the typical anti-Brahmin
> pamphlets. That the undersigned busybody wants to get involved here
> is also because as a non-Brahmin he is slightly better placed than the
> Brahmins themselves who usually are too dignified to complain about
> their own plight.
>
> KE
Glad to be of help. Some more references:
Brahmin and Brahminism: A historical survey
by Raj Narain Arya
# Unknown Binding: 125 pages
# Publisher: Blumoon Books (2001)
# Language: English
# ISBN: 8187190523
True Brahminism in life and law (Vedic University series)
by M. K. Venkatesvara Aiyar
# Unknown Binding: 154 pages
# Publisher: Printed at the Madras Law Journal Press (1928)
# Language: English
# ASIN: B00088O9QA
Aryans, Jews, Brahmins: Theorizing Authority Through Myths of Identity
(Suny Series, the Margins of Literature)
by Dorothy Matilda Figueira
# Hardcover: 256 pages
# Publisher: State University of New York Press (October 1, 2002)
# Language: English
# ISBN: 0791455319
My Life With a Brahmin Family
by Lizelle Reymond
# Paperback
# Publisher: Penguin Putnam~trade
# ISBN: 0140033750
The Brahmins
by Eileen Lottman
# Publisher: Dell Publishing (March, 1984)
# ISBN: 0440102138
http://www.hindu.org/publications/ramswa...inism.html
The Colonial Genesis of Anti-Brahminism
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/...tharamaiah.html
HAIL BRAHMINISM
http://www.humnri.com/Humex/Submission/padma/padma2.asp
Brahmanism & Brahminism
http://hamsa.org/StThomas_Chapt_4.htm#elst
Anti-Brahminism
Koenraad Elst
http://www.hvk.org/specialrepo/mms/index.html
MANU, SANGH & I
Draft translation of Marathi Book -
Me, Manu Ani Sangh
by
RAMESH PATANGE
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/19...9-12.shtml
Verdict from Belgium
http://www.ciil.org/announcement/MBE_progr...per/paper14.htm
INDIA AS A LITERARY AREA
Kikkeri Narayan
http://bharatvani.org/books/civilization/partI6.htm
"Anti-Brahminism has often become the most virulent form of castist
thinking." David Frawley
M. kelkar<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Posted by: Guest - 06-05-2005, 05:55 AM - Forum: Member Articles
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Selecting a Charity
By Narayanan Komerath
(Indic Journalistsâ Association International)
The British activist charity âActionAIDâ claims that over $20B of the $50B global poverty-alleviation budget is pocketed by consultants (Mathiason, The Observer, May 29). Years ago, another British report concluded that much of their Gujarat Earthquake relief funds fed SUV dealers. Hardly surprising.
Charitable organizations fill a critical need of US desis. They help us to âgive backâ and make a difference. With 1$ buying over Rs. 43, charities help us achieve our dreams of helping to improve many lives in our native land, leaving us free to focus on earning a living. Given this emotional aspect, the fierce debate about charities is not surprising. Today, one must take the time to be aware of where oneâs money may be used. Let me share some pointers Iâve learned from research on these:
1) Social and development work is not easy, so those who do it full-time must be strongly motivated. What is that motivation? Type 1 is the âreligiousâ MNC seeking to convert others to their faith â which in turn brings more money and market share. Not very different from the East India Company. Type 2 buys votes for political power. Type 3 is the scam, whose âoverheadâ may exceed 50%. Type 4 is the personality cult, set up to praise one individual. Type 5 is a club of well-intentioned socialites. Is there really a Type 6? A class of people to whom helping others fulfills their own purpose in life, believing that âService to fellow humans is the best service to the Almightyâ? Such people accept only a minimal livelihood, but work hard to help those in dire need. This seems incredible to us in âmodernâ society where one âbillsâ by the minute, but the evidence proves that there are indeed such â spread through many organizations. We put our trust in them, and have every reason to be proud of that decision.
2) An example may illustrate the distinction. Most of us are horrified by images of poverty and suffering, and some are dazed by the realization of having the near-Divine power to change a human life for less than the cost of a haircut. The recruitment pamphlet of a certain US-based âcharityâ with ties to India, uses the metaphor of a man who stood on a beach, picking up fish squirming on the sand, and tossing them back into the water. He responds to a sneering passer-by who questions his sanity: âIt sure made a difference to THAT one!â Touching, no doubt, but they miss an important point. Fellow-Indians are not fish. They are proud, sensitive citizens of a great nation. Their lack of bank accounts and clothes as expensive as ours does not make them inferior or less intelligent. An organization set up to stoke its donorsâ and fund-raisersâ egos, is less likely to use our money effectively. Predictably, their project reports, read carefully, reveal the reality that Indian villagers usually lose patience with their antics and ask them to leave.
3) How honest is the organization? Recently, a US-based charity hastily purged its websites and blithely disowned its grassroots relief-delivery partners in India, when questioned about their political colors. The leaders seemed confident that their ludicrous contortions would please gullible donors, instead of amplifying suspicion.
4) Do your funds get used to play politics or pay politicians? The US Internal Revenue Service is very specific about tax-deductions for donations to â501 c3â charitable organizations. If your âcharitableâ leaders march with banners saying: âBrick by Brick, Wall by Wall, US Rule Is Gonna Fall!â or âAllah Will Destroy America and India!â it may be time to worry. Ditto for political grandstanding with $20,000 âPadaYatrasâ etc. Political activism is not charity.
5) Does your charity simply throw money at poor people and walk away? Or do they actually help the local people to get educated, plan projects, make their own decisions, and then fund those projects with clear budgets, timelines and milestones? Yes, Indians in rural areas are smart and disciplined enough to do these. Anything else is just a waste of money. As the expensive British study concluded, and as I could have told them for free, âlocal buy-inâ is critical. This means that the project will be cast in the localsâ realities, not yours. Religious metaphors and icons rooted in local culture and legend may adorn their workplaces. They will use names in Indian rather than western dialects and traditions, and praise the Almighty in every sentence. If all this offends your secular purity, you may be better off tossing the money from 30,000 feet and imagining that it did a lot of good. Youâll be happier than if you really find out just how the self-proclaimed âsecularâ organizations spend your money, or who paid for those new SUVs and âOSAMA IS OUR HERROW!â banners, not to mention AK-47s.
None of this in any way excuses deliberate discrimination by religion, caste, color or gender, let alone any sort of violence. Many desis who depend on CNN or âOUTLOOKâ for their news, find it hard to accept that poor Indians can indeed conduct projects without such nonsense. The reality of human relations in India is far more complex and beautiful, though it can no doubt turn very ugly as well. We find that Indians even in the deepest, most remote parts are kind, caring, compassionate people whose first instinct is to be friendly and generous to their neighbors â and even more to strangers. Working with them, and helping them with the opportunity to achieve their dreams, can make oneâs own life richer beyond anything that mere money can achieve. And finally, one must not lose interest and give up just because the task looms huge â or because someone lies about or tries to âlabelâ the charity one supports. Take the time to find out the truth â and press for positive changes whenever possible. Meaningful achievement takes time, patience, and dedication.
Satyam eva jayate
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Posted by: Guest - 05-29-2005, 05:09 PM - Forum: Military Discussion
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<b>Vajra Shakti Military Exercise</b> | 9th May 2005 @ Near Jalandhar, Punjab, India
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Posted by: Guest - 05-28-2005, 10:39 PM - Forum: Member Articles
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<b>Miraculous birth of the Macaulay gotra</b>
<i>Kalavai Venkat</i>
âWe can all be proud Macaulay-putras!â declares Jaithirth Rao because Macaulay introduced English education in India. Rao traces our success and even our collective identity to this momentous act of Macaulay.
Needless to say, English education has been one of the main contributing factors to the successes that India and her citizens have experienced. But, is it the only factor? Does Macaulay deserve to be eulogized for that? Macaulay introduced English education not only in India but also in what is today Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. None of these states is a poster-boy of economic progress, democratic ideals, hi-tech revolution or academic excellence. So, what made the difference in India?
One man: Jawahar Lal Nehru. He recognized that India needed schools of higher learning and autonomous research labs. He recognized the need to usher in scientific temperament. He tied up with foreign providers of technology. That vision paid dividends where it matters the most. India established IIT, IIM, AIIMS, DRDO and ISRO, built damns, nuclear reactors, put satellites in the orbit and built the super computers to drive them. Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan lacked a visionary like Nehru and so a mere introduction of English education by Macaulay didnât carry them far.
Nehru had his failures too. Only half the journey is complete when you create autonomous centers of excellence. You need a vibrant capitalist economy that will nourish those institutions and motivate investment and innovation to create wealth. Nehruâs ill fated obsession with socialism ensured that India didnât capitalize on her initiatives for decades to come. In the 90s, India made her forays into capitalist economy, albeit half-heartedly, and began to capitalize on the investments that Nehru had made in her institutions of learning and research. Even this hesitant flirtation with capitalism ensured that India emerged as the leading software and hi-tech outsourcing hub, leveraging, as Thomas Friedman [<i>The World is Flat</i>] points out, the critical mass of scientific learning which Nehru envisioned and pioneered decades ago.
At the time when Nehru started implementing his visions, he had his share of detractors. Gandhi clearly lacked a scientific temperament. Many leaders clamored for education in mother tongue under the unproven belief that it is offers greater benefits. The emerging consensus in neuroscience is that a child that is exposed to multi-lingual learning early in life becomes equally proficient in all the languages. Most importantly, English language education has ensured that Indians have access to the finest scientific literature and media that are published in English. Education in mother tongue wouldâve shut this door on Indians. We owe our thanks to Nehru for this too.
Should we credit Macaulay for what he neither intended nor implemented? Macaulay introduced his English education in the 1830s to train Indians to be able clerks of the English masters, not to usher in scientific temperament. Not surprisingly, India had to wait another 120 years before Nehru could transform a mere accidental introduction of English education into a constructive vision.
Lest I sound like blindly eulogizing Nehru I should also add that his understanding of our cultural heritage was minimal and everything he knew about that was borrowed from European writers because Nehru couldnât read any Indian script. Thus blinded, he was also instrumental in creating a battery of Leftist Taliban that would subsequently deny teaching and researching of Sanskrit at Leftist bastions like JNU. Ironically, the man that ushered in scientific temperament was also responsible for the destruction of objective learning in humanities, art and culture and for the politicizing of these fields by the self anointed Leftist eminences. In a development that Nehru wouldnât have anticipated, the Leftist students of JNU might soon stop brushing their teeth!
We shouldnât lose sight of what Macaulayâs schemes destroyed even if Macaulay might not have intended that. In his brilliant researches, drawing upon authentic British records and surveys, the eminent scholar and Gandhian, Dharampal [<i>Beautiful Tree - Indigenous Indian Education in the 18th century</i>] demonstrates that even till the 1820s India had an excellent infrastructure of schools. There were well over a 1, 00, 000 schools in Bengal alone. We get a similar picture no matter whether we look at Punjab or Tamilnadu. These schools provided vocational training to members of every community including women. They imparted training in a wide range of subjects from traditional medicine to jurisprudence. The infrastructure of traditional institutions which sustained these schools ensured that the students received their education free.
In contrast, the system that Macaulay ushered in was forbiddingly expensive. Most sections of the society couldnât afford it. For most Indians, it had no vocational relevance. By the 1880s, vast sections of the society had been deprived of education as the traditional schools had been destroyed. As evident from the British records, by then most of the students that enrolled for the system of education that Macaulay introduced were upper caste boys that aspired for British clerical jobs. But, it didnât come cheap. As evident from the incisive writings of the great revolutionary thinker and freedom fighter Suddhananda Bharati, many families pledged all they had to acquire an English education for their son. Quite often, their dreams of getting a British job didnât materialize. Many families were ruined and many a youth committed suicide. It is not a coincidence that early revolutionary phase of our freedom struggle attracted such youth.
Macaulay didnât understand any Indian language. Nor was he connected to the Indian culture. But he expressed nothing but contempt for anything Indian. He was not particularly any more racist than the average Englishman of that time but nevertheless the racism that underlined his worldview is unmistakable. He declared that the âlower castesâ were lax in their morals. In case the wife of a âlower casteâ man committed adultery, wrote Macaulay, âThe husband would gladly have taken a few rupees and walked away.â Nor did conversion to Christianity help much for a converted Indian was merely âas good a convert as a missionary can make in this part of the world.â
His ignorance of Indian philosophy, Sanskrit, Pali, Persian and Tamil literature didnât prevent him from making sweeping remarks, which in all fairness to Macaulay, he had merely borrowed from a few other European Orientalists: âA single shelf of a good European library is worth the whole native literature of India and Arabia.â India had pioneered many advances in theoretical and applied sciences starting with the invention of Baudhayanaâs formulas and Arybhattaâs astronomy to the discovery of inoculation. Some familiarity with the Indian scene wouldâve informed Macaulay but in his ignorance he declared that the so called sciences of India will evoke laughter in an English school girl. [<i>George Otto Trevelyan, Life and Letters of Lord Macaulay</i>]
Do we have to trace an imagined lineage to an ignorant man that had contempt for us? E V Ramaswamy Naicker, the British lackey and South Indian strongman, contemptuously called Tamil âThe language of the barbarians.â Strangely, the separatist Dravidianist parties that came to rule Tamilnadu hailed him as the father of the Tamil race and he received the appellation âThanthai Periyar,â meaning âThe Great Father.â For some years, the Dalitists have been glorifying Macaulay oblivious to what he thought of them. Today we find Macaulay elevated to a similar status on a pan-Indian scale.
We are witnessing the miraculous birth of the <b>âMacaulay gotraâ</b> !
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| India - Conventional War Asymmetry |
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Posted by: Guest - 05-25-2005, 12:51 AM - Forum: Member Articles
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INDIA - CONVENTIONAL WAR ASYMMETRY
Modern day warfare technology which is privy to western powers and Russia is slowly inching up towards Indian shores in the guise of thrust vectoring system, powerful phased array radars, sophisticated avionics, precision guidance mechanism, and telemetry â some of the components that are embedded in our cruise missiles, also known as currency of power in conventional war parlance.
Talking about cruise missiles and other ballistic missiles as started during 1975 under Integrated Guided Missile Development Program which was the brainchild of late prime minister Indra Gandhi whose endeavors have finally culminated fruitfully for Indians who have obtained prized catch of the day â BRAHMOS â a deadly supersonic cruise missile which can alter the battlefield scenario a la stinger in Afghanistan which made the graveyard of Russian choppers and forced Russians to flee.
Such is the deadly force of accurate, menacing Brahmos that Some have even warned that the US Navy's largest ships, the massive carriers, have now become floating death traps, and should be mothballed.
So far none has seen the massed cruise missile attack, but should it happen with multiple salvo, above is stark reality, even if not, such is the precision of Brahmos that its guidance system is able to distinguish an aircraft carrier from its escorts when locked on mode. Its land version has demonstrated its accuracy by pinpointing its target among the cluster of decoys and now follows Sea version which would be ultimately followed by Air version.
Please note the salient point here that the Brahmos missile is as deadly and precise as SS-N- 22 Sunburn or Moskit as called in Russia, another supersonic cruise missile whose technology has roots in Brahmos. In her testimony before the US House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, leading defense expert June Teuffel painted the following scenario about SS-N-22:
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Nine feet above water, traveling at twice the speed of sound, with a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead, the radar-guided Sunburn missile can weave its way through smaller ships until it reaches its real target -- a US aircraft carrier. At the last instant, it would pop up from the ocean's surface, smash into the side of the carrier and set off a nuclear explosion six times as powerful as Hiroshima. The US Navy has nothing that can stop it." <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is the only missile that has hit the bulls eye during a test which was marked *X*, other missiles just hit the moving decoy or decommissioned tugs/vessles. So did our Brahmos, which hit the chosen target on its head, hidden among decoys.
Had Argentina possessed about fifty Exocet missiles (instead of five which downed two UK frigates/destroyers) during the Falkland war or Guerra De Las Malvinas, they could have converted all British ships to underwater museums. Such is the ferocity of missiles in today's conventional war asymmetry.
Now imagine punching a hole in one of the US aircraft carrier (which comprises of several sister escort ships) and rendering it inoperable or sinking it with couple of more strikes, that would change the course of any war.
US aircraft carriers or floating airports as they are known, which are the weapons of choice of USG that during the crisis any president is left asking where are our aircraft carriers, cause they don't need any permission from host countries as they perform in international waters and not littoral.
More, when the adversary knows the deadly power of its enemy, it thinks over and during the war crisis, changes the tough attitude, instead looks for the truce or middle ground.
Although India's blue water navy has long way to go, but if India is to retain its regional power status, it better keep up with changing technologies and weapons of choice to maintain the cutting edge because the influence and the leverage matters in today's power matrix with international ramifications.
But as I have said before and let me reiterate my pet phrase ' Migs and Mirages wont make any difference to India, Mir jafars of India will '. Thirty three years without using our combat birds and our tanks against our external threat, versus Indiaâs fifth column who is silently stabbing Indians within our borders and goes unpunished, Its time we join hands or perish we will, Because Indians are at receiving end when it comes to internal security.
Time to think 3D.
Keshto patel
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| Arya Samaj: It's Contributions |
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Posted by: Bharatvarsh - 05-21-2005, 11:49 PM - Forum: Indian Culture
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I started this topic to discuss anything related to Arya Samaj. It's contributions to Hindu society have been great and need not be repeated here. Also I just wanted to discuss negative aspects of arya samaj as well (like contributing to the alienation of sikhs by calling Guru Nanak a pretender etc) and also the reasons for the decline of arya samaj. I will start off the topic by giving a short passage from Koenraad Elst's book "Who is a Hindu?" in which he discusses whether Arya Samaj is Hindu:
6.6. Is the Arya Samaj Hindu?
Many Hindus feared that a different outcome in the RK Mission court case might have had a disastrous precedent value for other organizations with a weak Hindu self-identification. Jagmohan, former Governor of Jammu & Kashmir and a hero of the Hindutva movement, comments: âHad the Supreme Court come to the same conclusion as the Calcutta High Court, many more sects and denominations would have appeared on the scene claiming positions outside Hinduism and thereby causing further fragmentation of the Hindu society.â37
Then again, perhaps the effect of a recognition of the RK Mission as a minority would not have been nearly as dramatic as Jagmohan expected, for in several states, another Hindu reformist organization has enjoyed minority status for decades without triggering the predicted exodus. Jagmohan himself has noted a case where âthe temptations in-built in Article 30 impelled the followers of Arya Samaj to request the Delhi High Court to accord the status of a minority religionâ but âthe Division Bench of the Delhi High Court rightly rejected the contention of the Arya Samajâ.38 However, as early as 1971, the Arya Samaj gained the status of âminorityâ in Panjab. Then already, it had that status in Bihar, along with the Brahmo Samaj.39
In a way, the Arya Samaj is a minority: the Arya-Samajis are fewer in number than the non-Arya-Samajis.40 By this criterion, every Hindu sect is a minority, and every Hindu school which calls itself âShaiva schoolâ or âRam bhakta schoolâ would pass as a minority institution, protected by Art.30. But that is of course not how the courts and the legislators have understood it: in principle, all Hindu minorities within the Hindu majority are deprived of the privileges accorded to the ârealâ minorities.
In Swami Dayanandaâs view, the term Arya was not coterminous with the term Hindu. The classical meaning of the word Arya is ânobleâ. It is used as an honorific term of address, used in addressing the honoured ones in ancient Indian parlance.41 The term Hindu is reluctantly accepted as a descriptive term for the contemporary Hindu society and all its varied beliefs and practices, while the term Arya is normative and designates Hinduism as it ought to be. Swami Dayanandaâs use of the term Arya is peculiar in that he excludes the entire Puranic (as opposed to the Vedic) tradition from its semantic domain, i.e. the major part of contemporary Hinduism. Elsewhere in Hindu society, âAryaâ was and is considered a synonym for âHinduâ, except that it may be broader, viz. by unambiguously including Buddhism and Jainism. Thus, the Constitution of the âindependent, indivisible and sovereign monarchical Hindu kingdomâ (Art.3:1) of Nepal take care to include the Buddhist minority by ordaining the king to uphold âAryan culture and Hindu religionâ (Art.20: 1).42 Either way, the semantic kinship of the two terms implies that the group which chose to call itself Arya Samaj is a movement to reform Hinduism (viz. to bring it up to Arya standards), and, not another or a newly invented religion.
The Arya Samajâs misgivings about the term Hindu already arose in tempore non suspecto, long before it became a dirty Word under Jawaharlal Nehru and a cause of legal disadvantage under the 1950 Constitution. Swami Dayananda Saraswati rightly objected that the term had been given by foreigners (who, moreover, gave all kinds of derogatory meanings to it) and considered that dependence on an exonym is a bit sub-standard for a highly literate and self-expressive civilization. This argument retains a certain validity: the self-identification of Hindus as âHinduâ can never be more than a second-best option. On the other hand, it is the most practical choice in the short run, and most Hindus donât seem to pine for an alternative.
http://voi.org/books/wiah/ch6.htm
And the following is a link to an online book by Swami Dayananad Saraswati (founder of Arya Samaj) titled "Satyaprakash":
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/3440/books.html
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