http://www.ceet.niu.edu/faculty/gupta/MEE321/vivek.html


I got this link from another site. We can hear Swamiji in his own voice talking about Dharma.



Prem

<b>Labour Party evicts Hindus from temple</b>

we all know that India is one of the most diverse countries in the world. There has been many ethnicities/groups/tribes/communities which has sought refuge in India from time immemorial like the parsis, the kochi jews, hakka chinese , syrian christians etc. There has been many groups which first came as invaders and later became indianised like the white huns (scythians?), kushans, bactrians (greeks?) etc. there are some traders and some groups of slaves (sidhis?) who have also assimilated in india.

I have always been fascinated by the ability of india to absorb all these groups and still retain the indianness and also the ability of these groups to add and enrich the indianness.

I would like to collate articles and useful anecdotes of these groups. I was inspired by the hakka chinese-indian thread at BR.

links about them

http://www.calcuttayellowpages.com/chinese.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> The Chinese made an entry into the city during late eighteenth century. By the mid 19th century they established themselves as skilled industrious and clean people. They are estimated to be about 20,000 in numbers. The greater parts are “Hakka”, the traditional tanners and shoemakers, followed by the carpenters and restaurant-keepers and the dentists.



They have managed to create a little china in Indian soil with traditional temples, dragon architecture and festoons in Chinese, with the rustle of real silk and the aroma of Chinese food. The Chinese have clustered in china town in central Calcutta and Tangra in east Calcutta, which is the tannery zone.



They have ventured not only in leather industry, but also in carpentry, dentistry, hairdressing, restaurants pharmaceutical and foods making. Two Chinese dailies are regularly published from Calcutta. Festivals are celebrated with the gaiety of china town everywhere. The Chinese New Year in February, rice pudding festival, the moon festival etc. are their major festivals. The ceremonial red candles, joss sticks, the ‘san chu’ or whole pig are a perfect accompaniment of festivities.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050305/asp/...ory_4453689.asp

http://cabletv.starhub.com/eng/highlight/0...,203344,00.html

http://indianchinese.org/


I would like to add the Anglo-Indians also.

Many of them have done great service to india in the fields of education and military.

Folks like Jim Corbett come to mind.

http://www.indianchild.com/anglo_indians.htm

http://www.indiaprofile.com/lifestyle/angloindians.htm

here is a list of famous anglo indians

http://www.anglo-indians.com/main.asp?menu...nuID=30&mymode=

http://www.alphalink.com.au/~agilbert/jjean1.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE ANGLO-INDIANS by Dr. Gloria J. Moore

The term "Anglo-Indian" was first used by Warren Hastings in the eighteenth century to describe both the British in India and their Indian-born children. In the nineteenth century the British in India still separated themselves from coloured people but accepted fairer (and often wealthier) people of dual heritage as "Anglo-Indian". Darker (and usually poorer) people were given the name "Eurasian". Today (apart from literature still alluding to the British who have lived in India for a long time as "Anglo-Indian" the term rightly signifies a world minority who have settled in Canada, New Zealand, the United States of Americas the United Kingdom and Australia, with some 150,000 still in India and a total of well over 500,000 world-wide.

A figure of at least 300,000 Anglo-Indians living in India at independence in 1947 has been given by Frank Anthony, the present leader of the Anglo-Indians in India (and by other leaders before him). Census figures were notoriously inaccurate under the British Raj since it was a widespread practice to claim to be "British" (to escape prejudice). Anglo-Indians were of British descent and were British subjects; they were never accepted by Indians as Indian.

This world minority are descendants of Europeans and Indians, their mother tongue is English, they are Christians (mainly Catholics and Anglicans), and at independence they lived throughout India, in the tiny towns up-country and in the cities of Bombay, Madras, Calcutta, Agra, Cochin, Lucknow, and Bangalore, a great centre of Anglo-Indian life. They travelled overseas, to Burma and Ceylon, to Europe, and especially to Britain, the birthplace of their male ancestors.

The 1820s saw the rise of political activity under John Ricketts, Louis Derozio and Captain John Doveton. Schools and colleges, training ships and agricultural schemes were set up. As a result of rising prejudice, self-help and community organisation grew, creating a real Anglo-Indian community with a sense of identity that never waned. These activities, coupled with later work by Sir Henry Gidney (a famous eye specialist and political leader), led to a certain security of employment for the Anglo-Indians. They were given some public positions in government, the police, customs, merchant navies and railways. They went into business, like the famous "Grand Mogul" Palmers and the Kellners. They were defined as Anglo-Indians by Lord Hardinge in the census of 1911. In 1935 and in Article 366 (2) of the 1950 Indian Constitution, they were again defined as a distinct "Community". After independence they were guaranteed representatives in the national parliament, yet today the situation of a large number in the subcontinent is precarious. For 300 years they have challenged racial prejudice in British India.

Anglo-Indians were brought into being by the direct policies of Portuguese, Dutch and British traders and colonists. The East India Company directors in the seventeenth century paid one pagoda or gold mohur for each child born to an Indian mother and a European father, as family allowance. Children with British or European fathers and Indian mothers were called "country-born" and included those with Portuguese, Dutch or French fathers. These offspring were amalgamated into the Anglo-Indian community, forming a bulwark for the British Raj, a buffer but also a bridge between rulers and subjects.

At every point of critical importance in the development of the British Raj, Anglo-Indians were present. At the Mysore wars, at the Mahratta, Sikh, Afghan and Gurkha wars, Anglo-Indian or countryborn men fought and helped win victories, defending their fathers' interests. The great regiments of the Indian army had among them the Khyber Rifles (founder, Sir Robert Warburton), the Shekwati Brigade (founder, Colonel Henry Forster) and Skinner's Horse (founder, Colonel James Skinner). All these men were the sons of Anglo-Indian marriages, having among their ancestors Indian or Anglo-Indian women. From 1791 the Anglo-Indians were debarred from the East India Company's armies and many trained the armies of the Indian princes. The French-descended Bourbons served Bhopal; the Filoses served the Scindia maharajas of Gwalior. It is now acknowledged by biographers (as Anglo-Indians have long believed) that men like William Pitt, Lord Roberts of Kandahar, Lord Liverpool and W. M. Thackeray, who contributed eminently to political life and to literature, were of partly Indian descent.

These Westernised people, their culture inherited from their male ancestors but enriched by the spirit of India, have descended from all classes, from both Indian and European aristocrats, from missionaries and naval men, and from traders and soldiers. By 1750 they outnumbered the often transient British.

Australia had many strong links with the world of British India, and this fact is still reflected in Australian architecture. (The verandah was a gift of Anglo-India.) Administrators, army personnel, bishops, travellers and clergy moved between the two countries. Livestock from Bengal reached farms in New South Wales and horses from New South Wales were shipped to the Indian army for cavalry. The Anglican Church in Australia came under the diocese of Calcutta. There were Indian-born people (even convicts) living in the earliest colonies. Their English surnames make it hard to identify the Anglo-Indians, but one, James Sievwright, a convict clerk at the Hobart post office in 1844, was fluent in English, French, German, Bengali, Hindustani, Persian, Greek and Latin.

Colonel Light (whose mother was probably Malay) spent a brief period in India, but his life was characteristic of this group - he was refused a commission in the East India Company. Light's memorial is the city of Adelaide; his design was possibly influenced by the beauty of Regency Calcutta with its new Government House, which he remembered from his visit there in 1805. Caroline Chisholm and Lachlan Macquarie spent years in India. Some of Caroline Chisholm's students from a school she opened in Madras might have emigrated through the Bengal Australia Settlement Scheme.

A major shipment of Anglo-Indians was organised by Sir William Burton, a judge in Madras in 1844. Burton was president of the Madras East India Society and sought relief for those who "are Christians and look to England as the land of their origin". The society sent two groups from Madras to Sydney in the William Prowse (1853) and the Paltyra (1854). (A similar scheme for Albany in Western Australia ended with a shipwreck.) Those settled by Burton were surveyed by the Anglo-Indian author Henry Cornish in 1875 and the results were published in his Under the Southern Cross (republished by Penguin in 1975). Twenty-four had been compositors on Henry Parkes's newspaper, the Empire. James Spooner was at Towns and Company, Sydney; H. (Henry) Moreau was a hairdresser in New Road, Sydney; William Grogan, James Dias and John Gotting were at Cunningham's printing press in Pitt Street, Sydney, while Thomas Reynolds and James Baker had left Sydney to join the Brisbane Courier. Benjamin Franz, John Hovenden and Thomas Martin had died, and several others had returned to India. Most were satisfied with their wages and conditions. Young married couples would have made a complete success of the scheme, wrote Cornish.

The Indian mutiny of 1857, in which thousands of Anglo-Indians suffered, led to a rise in the number of Indian-born settlers in Australia, among them officers of Hodson's Horse and other regiments. Colonel Andrew Crawford (who was English) had also arrived in Tasmania; he was a former adjutant-general of the Bombay army. He began the Castra farming scheme in northern Tasmania, attracting retired Indian army officers. As early as 1825 an attempt was made to found an Indian Institution for the sons of Anglo-Indians and British men. Links with Tasmania and other areas (such as Western Australia) were strong. There were 372 Indian-born registered in Tasmania in 1881. Among them was Dr John Coverdale, born in 1814 in Kedgeree, Bengal. Coverdale was a medical practitioner at Moonah, where he lived for many years. The Anglo-Indian film star of the 1930s and 1940s, Merle Oberon (born in Calcutta), lived in an era of deception, giving her birthplace as Tasmania to evade prejudice in the American film industry, according to her biographers.

Anglo-Indians contributed en masse to the modernisation of India, as their schools (with 80-90 per cent Anglo-Indian enrolment) provided a network of European and Anglo-Indian education across the country. Anglo-Indians also had a long tradition of military service. They fought in Britain's wars from Plassey to Assaye, from Waterloo to the Crimea and the Boer War. In the First World War Victoria Crosses were won by William Leefe Robinson of the Royal Flying Corps and Reginald Alexander Warneford of the Royal Naval Air Service. Between the two World Wars the veterans faced increasing difficulties as the Indian Home-Rule movement gathered momentum. In the Second World War they flew with "the few" in the Battle of Britain (Guy Gibson of the Dam Busters), and were at Dunkirk, North Africa, Malaya and the fall of Singapore. At the end of the Second World War many chose to be demobbed in Australia or Britain.

The handover of political power in August 1947, the end of the Raj and the communal killings all engendered insecurity among many minority groups. Over 100,000 Anglo-Indians emigrated initially, mostly to Britain. While the first census after independence did not record Anglo-Indian numbers, Frank Anthony believes that almost all of the 191,979 "native speakers of English in India" were Anglo-Indians.

The late 1940s and early 1950s saw some emigration to Perth and other centres. Among those migrants were John Buckle, who had survived the atomic attack on Nagasaki while a prisoner of war; Adrian MacDermott, who came to Melbourne from Changi and the Burma Railway; Patricia Pengilley, who won a Churchill Fellowship and spent a lifetime teaching the adult deaf; Norman Oehme, who farmed in the west and left his land to Aborigines; and Basil Sellars, a director of such companies as AFP Investment Corp, Elders IXL and British Gestetner.

Noreen Lubeck, an ex-officer of the Women's Army Corps (India), moved to Victoria, where her son (like many after him) encountered teasing because of his race. One man recalls that families faced being split, the fair being accepted and the dark rejected. However, their desire to settle in a Christian country made them persevere.

The educational levels and competence in English of Anglo-Indians were of a high standard. Several graduates from St Joseph's, Northpoint, who arrived in the early years, did well. Ed. Patterson became chief engineer of the Snowy Mountains Hydro-Electric Scheme; the Gidneys, kin of the late Sir Henry Gidney, have several doctors among their number and have settled throughout Australia. Others went from journalism to writing histories (Reginald Maher in Perth), from Dehra Dun to Duntroon (both military academies), and from the railways to mining in Western Australia.

In the 1960s thousands of Anglo-Indians who had emigrated to Britain were considering remigration with their British-born children to new countries. The relaxation in 1966 of the restrictive entry policy, and the adoption in 1973 of a policy of non-discrimination on the grounds of race, colour or nationality in the selection of migrants, resulted in a noticeable increase in the number of Anglo-lndian settlers in Australia. Between July 1969 and June 1972 Australia admitted 6,892 Indian-born of "mixed descent", of whom 39 per cent went to Victoria and 33 per cent to Western Australia. To this figure must be added the thousands who remigrated with their children to Australia from the United Kingdom or Canada. All these countries now have sizeable Anglo-lndian settler groups. Of the 41,657 Indian-born settlers recorded in the 1981 Australian census, Ken McIntyre (and leaders of the community) believe that at least 75 per cent (who are Christian) are Anglo-lndian. The largest number arrived from India in 1969. The Anglo-lndian community is less than 0.03 per cent of the total population of India. Virtually a stateless people, they face increasing difficulties in education and employment in India.

In 1947 Roland McGready became a gazetted officer, with 70,000 men under his command, in the Great Indian Peninsular Railway. He left for Melbourne in the 1960s. His son, Dr Roland McGready (a biochemist), has a successful academic research consultancy. A daughter, Kathy, toured India with an Australian women's cricket team and is writing its history. Malcolm and Bonita Prior and Peter Savedra opened factories which employ hundreds of people between them. Tony Archer and former boxing champion Peter Prince are in the insurance business. Henry Roach, Colonel Charles Campagnac and Colonel Denzil Alexander (whose family served the maharajas of Jaipur for seven generations) opened the Independent Oil Company, which plans to build its own refinery in Westernport Bay, Victoria. Kris Noble, who arrived from the United Kingdom, produces satirical television programs for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), such as The Gillies Report. Some have opened restaurants, such as the Gardners and Parkers (Melbourne), the Bretagnes (Sydney), and the deRosarios (Adelaide). Others have moved into real estate and investment, like Ivan Phillips, formerly of Northpoint. Those who arrived in 1948 could bring savings. From the 1960s, however, Indian currency restrictions meant that most arrived with $7 per person. Father Murphy of the Catholic Immigration Office in Melbourne remembers helping many adults who had sacrificed good careers for their children's future.

Anglo-Indians are stable, conscientious workers, with extended family networks and a lively social life. They remained interested in India and the East, showing concern for Anglo-Indians still in India. Their settlement has been smooth and trouble-free, and they maintain good relations with other groups. Unfortunately, some have encountered discrimination at work. Philosophical, adaptable and with a strong community spirit, they assimilate more readily than the other Indian-born such as Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims. Those who have lived in the United Kingdom or Canada are now accustomed to doing their own domestic work, although all at first missed the comforts of India in this regard and their unique social life there. All prefer the climate and informality of Australian life. Opposition rarely exists to out- marriage into other groups, and Anglo-Indians are marrying increasingly often into other ethnic groups. Since they have the same language, religion and culture as the mainstream society, they may well lose their ethnic identity.

Anglo-Indians have made a significant contribution to teaching in Australia. They can be found throughout all the networks of schools, private and State, from Scotch College to Geelong Grammar, and in Australian universities, although they are under-represented in these so far. Government departments, the police, the armed forces, customs, hospitals, libraries and the arts all employ Anglo-Indians. Their children often move into the professions.

Anglo-Indians are sports-loving and were the sports stars of India. Leslie Hammond has settled in Ballarat, and the brothers Richard and Laurie Carr live in Melbourne. Gene Raymond and Dusty Millar (boxers) went to Melbourne (Raymond via the United Kingdom). The Pearces in Perth helped win Olympic victories for Australian hockey. Rudy Pacheco, Marcus Syms and Julian Maugey began the Springvale/Noble Park Hockey Club, which draws all groups and ages, as does Ken McIntyre's Australia-India Cricket Club - both in Melbourne. Kingsley Hayes-Rosario, a former Scots Guard, coaches cricket in Victoria. Dennis Fallon and Dudley Beeby coach hockey teams in Glen Waverley, Melbourne. Fund-raising charity functions are a feature in Melbourne, Perth and Sydney, as they are in the United Kingdom and Canada. The Melbourne Rangers, the Australia-India Society of Victoria, the Sydney Rangers, and "old school" associations (such as those of Bishop Cotton of Bangalore and Campion-Vestry of Trichinopoly, in Melbourne), all flourish and provide scholarships for youth in India or grants to charities in Australia. The Indian Ex-Service Club of Victoria hosts visiting generals, admirals and air vice-marshals from the Indian armed forces, such as Admiral Ronald Almedia and Brigadier-General Desmond Hayde, a hero of the battle of Dograi in the India-Pakistan conflict, in September 1965.

The recently formed Australian Anglo-Indian Research Association in Melbourne aims to encourage, co-ordinate and supervise all aspects of research on Anglo-Indians - their history, settlement and welfare. To date there is little useful or valuable information on the Anglo-Indians. Attempts are now being made to change this: Gloria Moore in The Lotus and the Rose and The Anglo Indian Vision, Eric Stracey (Canberra), former inspector-general of police (Tamil Nadu), and General J. G. Henderson-Brooks, have all written histories or their autobiographies. Adrian Gilbert intends to work on postgraduate research in this field. And Christine Walker epitomises the many who continually re-educate people about Anglo-lndian life and history.

June D'Rozario held the seat of Sanderson (Darwin) in the Northern Territory Assembly for the Australian Labor Party (ALP) from 1977 to 1983, and Anne Warner was elected to the Queensland parliament for the ALP in 1983. Fred Cress's brilliant art, influenced by the spirit of India, brings riches to Australian life. Others have contributed to Australian society by their unique traditions as bridge-builders between East and West, as ambassadors of both Europe and India, and of multiculturalism. Their activities include teaching English (Vivienne Wheeler, through the English Speaking Union); researching rural development projects in the subcontinent (the late Major Clarry Goff); working voluntarily for the Epilepsy Foundation (Joe D'Souza); and reading and illustrating books for the blind (Noreen Lubeck). Indira Gandhi paid a warm tribute to "The Community, the whole country admires their spirit of zest and adventure". Malcolm Fraser encouraged hockey player Leslie Claudius to emigrate to Perth.

Anglo-Indians were among India's most international, emancipated and democratic people, a Westernised minority amongst the vast Indian population. Their families are now scattered all over the Commonwealth and extend world-wide. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->



I am very interested in knowing more about the Siddis etc. History buffs, please contribute.

Also, a humble request, please keep away the "aryan" nonsense and also tales of muslim invaders who refused to assimilate and were interested in only looting - like abdali, ghazni etc.

let's keep this thread an educational and informative one since many of us are not even aware of the diversity that we have.

<b>Befuddled Bongs of Bengal</b>


If someone asked a teenager student of India about what is common with Rabindranath Tagore, Subhash Chandra Bose, Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Vivekanand, Satyajit Ray, Sharmeela Tagore, Kajol, Saurav Ganguly, Eden Garden, Sunderban, Black Magic ?

It should be no-brainer for him or her.

Welcome to the land of Jute AKA West Bengal! The land of Banerjees and Mukherjees, the land of infamous International Icon, do-nothing Jyoti Basu.


Dada ki khober? kaimon?


If we keep harping on the heritage of West Bengal it would be an endless session of praise for this land of fertile minds a la Dr. Shyama Prasad Mukherjee, founder of Bhartiya Jana Sangh, who was allegedly murdered by congress high command.


But alas! with all the above pearls of this beautiful necklace called Bengal is of no use, this necklace has been sold to the highest bidder after the independence - The anti national elements comprising of communists and Muslims who have destroyed Bengal beyond repair, who don't deserve these pearls, For, neither they appreciate their value nor do they have such a prowess to appraise the quality of those pearls - They are busy doing what they are doing -- eroding these pearls of Hinduism beyond recognition with their subterfuge, which would not only destroy Bengal yet again, But would destroy India big time due to anti national's future representation of Jehadis at Lok Sabha - a law manufacturing unit of India - Imagine India where laws would be passed with Jehadic acquiescence.




Today west Bengal is brimful with Muslims of Indian origin and that of Bangladesh, who have found a natural abode in west Bengal due to some common factors, that of common language, quasi same environment where they can mix their identity and remain undetected, coupled with lax laws of the state and conducive political agenda of vote greedy communist politburo of the West Bengal sans national interests.



There is a scientific principle which says "water finds its own level," until the advent of lasers, the level was still checked by water. But the point I am coming at is this; Muslims are working on same principles as water and are finding their survival and thrift among naive Hindus where they mix up only for a required time till the situation be ripe for them to revolt.




Needless to say that above demographic time bomb comprising future jehadis, would not have no communist or congress fuse built into it. It would be naive to believe that person like Jyoti Basu does not have a hands on experience of ghastly murder and mayhem of Hindus during the direct action day in Calcutta and Noakhali with 77 percent Muslims, where million Hindus died and got converted by Muslim atrocities called jehad by Muslim league. How is it not possible for communist supremo senior Jyoti Basu da to not remember the golden words of H. S. Sahrawardy - " Muslim India means business" -- "Larke lenge Pakistan marke lenge Pakistan."


Somnolence or slumber, you define brothers.



The past heritage of Bengali babus is laid waste due to the upcoming jehadi culture of Islam which is already knocking many doors in several Muslim majority districts of West Bengal (nine of them) with vicious message of their gruesome Prophet who was a Warrior himself, thus no stranger to a bloody sword; http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/KeshtoPatel50324.htm


The now high command of reins of West Bengal should immediately reverse their course in favor of Hindu ethos and its interests in order to not repeat the same Direct Action Days of the past, which are sure to be cloned if the situation is left unchecked.


I am less interested in West Bengal's IT drive which would fill some pockets and create employment temporarily, something that would be ultimately taken over by Islamists of the future if Muslims are not stopped today. What good is Ambani's wealth for example if his factories would be looted by Muslims of tomorrow? Noakhali and hyderabad is the best example where rich Hindus became not only penniless, but they became destitute Muslims by subsequent threats, lets look and learn my Hindu brothers.


But are we ready for such a transformation which involves our mindset and ideologies, coupled with greed? Does not look like, if we examine the mahatma Gandhi of the past, with misplaced ideologies of ishwar Allah, which did not stop Pakistan anyway, and those of present Mulayam, Laloos of India, ready to sell Mother India for a song to our willing enemies.



What is wrong with these present brainy Bengalis? Why they want to mix ground beef in their rosgullah? why they cant stop their sharmilis going at nawab's haveli a la patuadi? Bengal has been split into two already, so is beautiful Sunderban, what more do they want to their detriment? why cant they be street smart as other Muslims are and chart their course for their future, which would involve their future generation vulnerable to same Direct Action Days if no action is taken NOW. Learn from YOUR own history if not Islam per se. Anything else would be uncivilized, looking at the crystal ball of the keshtos with 3D spectrum.


I am lost for words when I see that Bengalis look more at Jyoti Basu than Bose.It was, after all Subhash Chandra Bose, who was mainly instrumental in India's liberation war, it was him who put his life and limbs on the stake, it was him who Britisher were afraid of if we go by the words of Lord Clement Atlee, http://library.flawlesslogic.com/gandhi.htm and not duratma Gandhi who did not do enough, yet got acclaimed to the hilt, despite his gifting Indian territory to Pakistan on silver plate, thanks to Nehruvian secular cabal. Lest we forget, Bengal is the cousin state of famous Bihar of Laloo fame.


There is an adage which says "you can take the horse to the river, but you cannot make him drink," Hinduwadis are saying this to treacherous seculars who must act now in the interests of nation -- majority of which are Hindus, them (seculars) included.

With all the above, I am sure Subhash Chandra Bose must be turning in his grave in whichever part of the globe he be, for his Tyag is in vain, West Bengal is getting ready for one more split, Bengal tiger would be extinct sooner than later, with all these jehadi poachers at work.

Peace be upon his soul.

He remains my BOSE.
Jainake ami bhalo bashi.


Keshto Patel.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/quic...058661.cms

With NDA in power, Sonia Gandhi takes up the role of opposition leader and commands respect worldwide.


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/arti...059281.cms
Why Sonia Gandhi is a brand icon today
AKSHAY BHATNAGAR
INDIATIMES NEWS NETWORK[ WEDNESDAY, MARCH 23, 2005 12:22:13 AM]

Way back in 1978, the ad agency Saatchi & Saatchi was entrusted with the task of creating the ad campaign for the Conservative Party, led by Margaret Thatcher, aimed at the upcoming elections in Britain. The agency came up with the print ad showing a picture of a long line outside an unemployment office.

The campaign directly hit the Labour Party on the plank of non-functioning and catapulted Thatcher to victory.

Cut to year 2004 in India. The Congress party led by Sonia Gandhi hired Orchard Advertising (a Leo Burnett agency) and Perfect Relations to handle its advertising and public relations campaigns respectively for the upcoming general elections. The combination of party's media cell and agencies' think tanks came up with a multiple ad campaign raising a single question Aam Aadmi Ko Kya Mila? (What did the common man get?).

The party's ad campaign promised Congress Ke Haath, Aam Aadmi Ke Saath co-relating its symbol of hand with the common man's need and aspiration.

The media was strategically apprised of the ground realities of the economy. The simple yet very effective campaign took the sheen away from the NDA government's high voltage 'India Shining' campaign. In the marketer's parlance, the seven-year young political brand Sonia Gandhi dislodged the over five-decade old political brand Atal Bihari Vajpayee from the market leadership position.

Faith, Diplomacy and India

<b>Pak-16 India-18 US-20</b>


Was it the bolt from the blue when we heard that the US machinery peddling their combat birds to nuclear cheat Pakistan and offering some goodies like F-18 to India?

Not so for 3D thinkers who can separate chaff from the grain.

Recent reports indicating above subject have their own spins and objectives, everything that emanates from oval office does, hence this is not an exceptional case to fool India yet again, Indians have been deceived time and again by US warlords, albeit this time the offer came with a lollipop as a pacifier.


The purported future delivery of Falcons to a terrorist country (Pakistan contributed to 9-11) which can be modified to carry nukes should go against the tenets of nuclear ayatollah (Washington) but it did not. As long as the bottom line being who would be at the receiving end. And this is where American shoe fits well as always since the Pattons and Sabre jets of the past.

Does it occur to US that Falcons can be turned into a red crowned Crane (china's national bird to be, china does not have a national bird yet) the same way as stinger (Afghan War hero), which got reverse engineered to Anza-II? (Pakistan supplied a stinger specimen to China.)

Turn the blind eyes on both Pakistan and China, one is ally and a bulwark against Hindus, US declared Dawood a terrorist, yet does nothing to get him as long as he is busy fleecing hindus of India.The other (China) is major power to reckon with who threatened US with mushroom clouds over Los Angeles, year 1995,  over Taiwan issue by asking US tersely what they would prefer - LA or Taipei.


Clever ploy by gringos to pin down Indians, It is here that cheat and caveat chip in when something has to be dealt with Indians by offering obsolete F-18s from nowhere. Well, it had to be something in offer as a carrot, knowing that India is making their own steel birds and they have the latest and best thrust vectoring sukhois. Americans knew Indians wont bite F-18 bait, but something was to be there on its plate for Indians as a pretext to sell Pakistan its falcons and yet be even handed. And they did.


Anyway, in the case of India, this dime was worth a nickel.


And now Lockheed Martin says (in its new offer) F-16 block 70 http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/mar/27martin.htm can be produced in India in its collaboration with HAL when Indians did not show any interest in block 50. But here is a clever trick again, US is only pitting us Indians versus Russians who have already declined to offer akula nuke sub to India as promised http://indiareacts.com/nati2.asp?recno=3227&ctg= if we went ahead with French scorpene. Similarly, think what is forthcoming with regard to russia versus this supposedly F-16 issue. Grand rift between our only reliable supplier Russia and India who is dependent on it for sukhoi and other spares. India should not put itself in a situation like an omelet from frying pan to fire vis a vis Russia.


I am sure it was a cake walk for Lockheed Martin CEO to persuade pentagon on its Block-70 offer to Indians on the following grounds:


India already possesses the best - Sukhois. http://www.tgarden.demon.co.uk/writings/ar.../050113hol.html
USA has already come up with better replacement, FA-22 Raptor.
Dog fight is a dodo for the US which relies on pre-empt doctrine of shock n awe with the dance of cruise missiles and an nocturnal aerial bombing with stealth fighters.


On the other end we hear about US promising India to make it a big power of 21st century http://www.niburu.nl/showarticle.php?articleID=6976 by collaborating with new Delhi on nuclear energy and a high tech cooperation. Who is US fooling here? Just last week Condi Rice had chosen her Pakistani origin senior advisor Shirin Tahir-Kheli for UNO http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13692412 for possible roadblocks against Indian permanent membership




By offering Pakistan F-16s and denying modi a visa in one week, USA has come out from covert to overt as an enemy of India where nothing India is able to do because Indians don't have long march ICBMs with city busters which can land on American shores, neither India has legal International fangs (veto) and to make this matter worse there are 2 million Indians in America who would be hostages between the rivalry of the two. After the Sep-11 the backlash on foreigner looking brownies have multiplied many folds coupled with diabolical Patriot ACT.


In the case of Pakistanis, its a moral victory, something to write home about, because Pakistanis were eyeing Falcons for long time now, their wait is over.

With falcons stationed at Islamabad and being modified to carry nuclear weapons and be able to give tougher fight to Indians in a future war, India is a looser.


And the winner of the event is...................Mr.USAAAAAAAAAA.


Keshto Patel

Jogen Mandal was the Mulayam / Lalloo of the 1940s
He was responsible for the loss of east bengal
He was a Dalit casteist who believed in Dalit-Muslim unity against the bad brahmins
Jogen Mandal allied with Jinnah and was eventually rewarded with a minister's post
After Direct Action Day, he prevented the dismissal of Suhrawardy
He wanted to give all of bengal to Pakistan

When Partition became inevitable,
Jogen Mandal wanted to give all of Bengal to Pakistan

Shyama Prasad Mukerji fought to divide bengal to salvage west bengal

Once Pakistan was formed and secure, the muslims had no further use for
Dalit Jogen Mandal and he got ethnic cleansed to India
I shall post Jogen Mandals resignation letter

Gail Omvedt, the commie-dalitist laments that muslim insistence on conversion lost them the opportunity for permanent unity with dalits

In 1949, Sardar Patel threatened to annex 33% of east bengal to resettle the hindus
The pakistanis panicked and sent in Liquat Ali Khan to Delhi to sign a mutual minority protection pact with Nehru

Shyama Prasad Mukerji resigned since this pact had no enforcing mechanism
I shall also post Shyama Prasad Mukerji's resignation letter

I shall try to find a post which shows how the commies prevented hindu retaliation in west bengal

I am creating this thread to have a collection of letters that our members send out to various people.

1. Newspaper editors.
2. Legislators, Congresspeople, etc.
3. Other Important people and organisations.

This will act as a repository or all such letters. Some of these letters will make it to IF front page - there is no set criteria yet but i guess it will evolve over time.

Members are encouraged to write and keep a copy here. Periodically we will archive all such letters at our archive at http://indiaforumarchives.blogspot.com/.

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<b>Kerala Conundrum</b>

What good is of any state where you have highest literacy rate, better life expectancy, low infant mortality rate and overall better quality of life index, but you have economical chaos, rampant unemployment, Militant trade Unions, frequent strikes and 11,000 suicides a year, child Prostitution. A developed state or a failed one?



Welcome aboard Kerala's sinking ship!


Despite being an international tourist attraction with pristine sandy beaches (second best attraction after Tajmahal) tranquil water, hill stations, historic monuments, exotic wildlife, water canals with rice boats and lush green vegetation as endorsed by National Geography, this kerala boat is sinking fast with a big gaping hole in it.



The failed state is already living on a central dole of thousands of crores every year as a bankrupt economy a la Kashmir, apart from the fact that most kerala expatriates are remitting stacks of dollars towards their native land from the gulf area which is concentrated with them coupled with tourist boom bringing financial injection in the local economy which is growing every year. But it seems that all of this is of no avail! Alas the estate is in financial comatose. If Kerala were a corporation, it would have filed for bankruptcy.



Can you imagine a chief minister of Kerala being denied a seat at the aircraft and sent back from the airport just because the state has not paid its due to the concerned airline? How shameful and shocking it must be for such a VIP!


But ask Mr. Anthony and he would honestly tell you what transpired when he was about to board a flight to Delhi and got turned down for state's bad credit standing with concerned airline.


So how come that such a developing state with such a rich coastal area with a capable fishing industry and human resources would fail miserably as such?



Blame it on COMCONG, an alliance of communists and congress for decades which has ruled this state with the help of Muslim League, who are virtually responsible for economical chaos of the state due to financial mismanagement, lack of transparency, lax laws, political corruption at high level, rampant unemployment, 11,000 suicides per annum and what not!




While Saudi Arabia is the beheading capital of the world, no less is tiny Kerala, the world's suicide capital (per capita basis) with average 32 deaths per diem among 30 million of its inhabitants. Almost all Hindus.



Kerala is not an industrial state, its a consumer state, the ideologies of communism have taken a toll on its infrastructure and industry with failed economics. If a capitalist has a choice he would rather invest in a vibrant growing state such as Gujarat or Maharashtra than an already crippled Kerala with Militant trade unions and frequent strikes.


Kerala is a CO headquarters of communists along with West Bengal who have made sure to wipe Hindus out from kerala with the active help of Congress and Muslim league. Thus the socio-politico-economy interests are trifurcated among Hindu Muslims and Christians in Kerala with 55 percent Hindus of the states. Again when such a scenario exists its difficult to coordinate policies which are hijacked on political and religious bias, hence the economic mismanagement is imminent due to political impasse, bottlenecks against the progress



Alas too many cooks spoil the broth adage is being proven right in Kerala with all these monkey fights.



There is no conducive atmosphere for industry and manufacturing due to mismanagement in planning and misplaced priorities of COMCONG. May be that's why the entrepreneurs are scarce commodity in kerala and people are left to fend for themselves on tourism income and overseas remittance by keralite expatriates besides fishing industry, handicrafts and agrarian economy.


Against this backdrop, the people of Gujarat are honest and hardworking with patriotic qualities who speak with one voice when it comes to garvi Gujarat, That's the best reason to determine that due to these exceptional qualities, Hindu unity, sense of belonging, Gujrat's economy is vibrant, engine of India's growth -- whopping 14 percent.


Just five years ago the state was devastated with massive earthquake and got rebuilt, and if that was not enough, there came Ghodra. But despite these hurdles, the Guju people pulled it all through against massive odds. But why not Kerala?

Hahahaha look at the following poll results:

QUOTE:

Chhattisgarh's Raman Singh has been rated as the best Chief Minister in the country while his Kerala counterpart Oommen Chandy ranked the lowest in an opinion poll conducted by India Today-A C Nielsen-ORG Marg.


Why is Microsoft having a soft corner for Gujarat despite such ridiculous and mischievous alleged pogrom in Gujarat and not in kerala? Why there are no billionaires a la Ambanis in COMCONG kerala while its neighbors like Andhra and Tamil nadu do?


The reasons are not far to seek.



Billionaires are born in solvent democracies with capitalistic trend, business friendly atmosphere and not choking communist economies, leaving Hong Kong how many billionaires do China have despite having the third largest economy in the world? Wealth creation is not their forte if you look at North Korea and Cuba, which can be compared with Kerala economy wise.


The newly emerged countries or Asian tigers are all non communists who have made it despite all odds (south Korea was bankrupt when it started reforms).


Kerala's political porridge needs better ingredients, its stale, even the plate stinks. The system is begging for quick overhaul. Kerala is already known to be the Bihar of the South with its matching GDP, how lower it can go. Its time for Hindus of kerala to unite in the interest of nation and vote BJP in and COMCONG out.


This is my request to those Hindus of congress and communists. Nothing I can do with regard to intransigent Muslims of kerala, who have deceptive agenda against Hindus of India.



After all Marad happened in Kerala where Hindus got killed and no Muslim modi was ever produced. Malapuram is a copious Muslim district with many anti nationals, It was here, where Coimbatore Bomb Blast terrorists were given refuge. Mallapuram is a mini Pakistan and a base of ISI.

The haul of RDX from jama masjid of Marad is an eye opener for Hindus but may be not for Keralite Police which is spearheaded by COMCONG cabal.

Think of Muhammad Ismail who was elected for Lok Sabha from Kerala and did not speak Malyali, Religion gave him the boost, Islam did his job.

Muslims of Mallapuram are well connected with ISI and Petro Ports in the Gulf who grease its palm and Mallapuram does its bidding like a dog, ultimatum goal is to drive Hindus out.

Concern here is not Kerala's prosperty or poverty but its anti national activities and its tentacles reaching till Lok Sabha.

Also read: Coastal Kerala is getting de-hindunised http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/jul/10iype.htm?zcc=ar

Kerala Hindus going from bad to worse: http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story....t_id=67014

Why do we need such a kind of Kerala which is a liablity on exchequer and harbouring terrorists who want to duplicate many parliaments and coimbatores in India?

Love me or leave me.
Keshto Patel.