<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Pandyas ruled Tamil Nadu in the 12th and 13th centuries. They have left their influence in the name Pondicherry which is derived from Pandya Sherry. (Link)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Lav-kush Pur (Lahore), Mulasthana (Multan), Purushapura (Peshwar), Kubha-Kapisa (Kabul). (Link)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

From Wacky:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sanskrit documents refer to the Hindu Kush as Pāriyātra Parvata<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

From http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/03/ana...-islamabad.html,
my insertions in purple:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ahmedabad == Karnavati
Allahabad == Prayag<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->? Hyderabad = Bhagmathi => Bhagyanagar (as per the Nizhal Yoddha/Shadow Warrior, see further below)
? Lahore = Lavpur (after God Shri Ram's son). => Lav-kush Pur as per above
Congress proposed to change Dilli to Shahjanabad = Indraprasth
? Kashmir = Kashyap Maar (after Kashyap Rishi) => Kashmira (one of the many names of our Mother Uma Maheshwari, see also Shlokas such as Annapoorna Stotram)

Guwahati = Gau Haati
Mohamadwaadi (near Pune) = Mahadev waadi. Seriously, trust me, I have a friend from this place.
Kandhar = Gandhaar => Kandahar=Gandhaara actually.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

From Bodhi's post below:
TSP's capital 'islamabad' = brAhmaNA~Nka
Umarkot = amarakoTa
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Mar 25 2009, 05:02 PM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Mar 25 2009, 05:02 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->It was shAhjahAn who had renamed anantanAga as Islamabad. The name of town was restored to original when sikhs wrested kashmIra from moslem rulers and remained intact till now.  Now that India is dAr-ul-islAm again, they want the name changed.  Islamabad is also the name which awrangzib had given to Hindu city mathurA.  It is no coincidence that the capital of terroristan is also Islamabad, which was adopted after eliminating its older name brAhmaNA~Nka which had remained brAhmaNAbAd even during moghul period.  There is still a smaller town by that name in saindhava desha.  It is also sad that famous amarakoTa now in terror country is referred even by hindu writers these days as Umarkot
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Kashmira - from the links to follow:
- 'islamabad' = anantanAga (Anantnag)
- 'Takht-i-Sulaiman' = Shankaracharya Hill
- 'Koh-i-Maran' = Hari Parbat
- 'neelum' = kishenganga

Stupid islamis of Kashmira. They still call themselves Kashmiris <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> apparently they still admit to worshipping Uma? Obviously kaffirs the lot of them. Someone tell TSP's taliban that the islamics of Kashmir have apostasised.

http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx...eID=8384&SKIN=B
- Terrorists of the islamic kind want Anantnag renamed to islamabad. "Anant-nag is a synonym of Sheshanaga" (Adishesha).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Even the names of the landmarks like the Shankaracharya Hill has been changed to Takht-i-Sulaiman and the name of historic Hari Parbat has been changed to Koh-i-Maran.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/03/ana...mabad-what.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->similarly, the river 'kishenganga' has been changed to 'neelum'.

well, the right thing would be to rename ahmedabad as karnavati and hyderabad as bhagyanagar, and allahabad as prayag. these places have nothing to do with mohammedans, they existed with those even before mohammed invented his ideology.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Dear Sir/Madam,

IS OUR ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND DIGNITY , IN REGIONAL STRENGTH…?

The centre of malevolence in Pakistan is the centralized sole power in the hands of one person or few of them, Nobody talk about to empower the Pakistani at grass route level, why? Because they too, want to grab, total power in their own hands, so how, politician differ from Musharaf, mean all the eggs are one and the same in the basket.

Unfortunately, no one dare to trust the Pakistani people and involved them in to the day to day decision making process with intention to develop a sense of participation in to the decision making process affecting the future of their country and their generation at large and share the real benefit of democracy.

At present the political situation around us is very critical , US/NATO are fighting their war of military/political interest in the region, involving the dependent country like Pakistan, under intimidation of sever consequences to bear, if, refuse to support them. They have penetrated trained people within the rank and file of the society with financial backing to fight with our armed forces. We must use our wisdom and identify the culprit loyal to them and stop killing of our innocent people to delight others ,who, want our people to fight our own army, which may result in destruction and create chaos as expected and planned by the outside forces, however we must protect our people ,freedom, pride and Dignity at any cost.

Islamic Democratic party has suggested a socio-political change ,programmed to empower the downtrodden people of Pakistan, women, youth, intellectuals, farmer, workers and righteous people at grass route level ,so that they can be involved in to the day to day decision making process deciding the fate of the country and their generation with intention to enhance rapid development of industrial base along with agro-industries to fulfill the need of economic growth of the day, and provide ample employment to all man and women intend to work and share their contribution in the prosperity of the nation, while generating revenue for the welfare of the people of Pakistan.

What we need is to change the socio-political system as suggested by the IDP and decentralize the power at divisional level to involved the masses at grass route level with transparency and accountability together with certain basic guarantee for free education with technical knowhow, research facility for those interested in ,surety of separate working opportunity for man and women and free medical coverage to all without any discrimination ,IDP has definite program for rapid indigenous industrialization in SME, Small factories and cottage industries and to encourage retail, wholesale businesses to accommodate maximum number of working force in production process to increase the production of all commodities more then the requirement of the country, the excess production of all kind will be spare from all the division for export as per export-oriented foreign policy.

IDP has a program to provide the protection to local/foreign investment, supply of cheap material and skill labor for the industrial requirement. we have plane to provide innovation and research backup to the local industries, beside providing facility for quality control at all level.

However, IDP believe in development of regional strength and interdependency on regional market to exploit, in order to explore available regional opportunity, for development of out economy in a way suitable for our society. We want to develop cordial relation and trustable understanding between Iran, Afghanistan Central Asian Countries, India, China, Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka .The countries mentioned are rich in natural resources, technology, having huge population and are in need of development opportunity at large. The population of these region will provide ample opportunity to develop our regional markets to the extent we can. These region should be our economic-political priority base, it can provide enormous opportunity to expend our sustainable market, without undue interference and intimidation, as this unity could prove strong guarantee for peace in the region and play decisive role in the world peace.

The time is rapidly changing, we must act accordingly, This is a moment invite us all for serious consideration weather to keep our economy strong with the cooperation of our neighboring countries ,which can help to keep our independence in tact with dignity and pride as a free nation or we may avoid the change of socio-political system and prefer to bow down before this mighty evil and depend on their conditional financial help, endangering our freedom and dignity.

IDP invite all the patriotic forces of Pakistan to unite and be prepared to take the reins of socio-political change in Pakistan to protect the freedom, pride and dignity
Of our country.

www.idp.org.pk
Ilyas khan Baloch
Organizer, Islamic Democratic Party

Election Date
April -May

Result = May

Official Results here:
http://www.eciresults.nic.in/

In this thread, I shall expose the so called peaceful sufis, using historical data

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“We must at present do our best to form a class of persons who may be interpreters between us and the millions we govern; a class of persons, Indian in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, in morals, and in intellect.” Lord Macaulay, 1835

“The language in which we are speaking is his [the Englishman’s] before it is mine. How different are the words home, Christ, ale, master on his lips and on mine! I cannot speak or write these words without unrest of spirit. His language, so familiar and so foreign, will always be for me an acquired speech. I have not made or accepted its words. My voice holds them at bay. My soul frets in the shadow of his language.” James Joyce, Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man

In my admittedly shite M.Phil dissertation on Progressive Zionist visions for Israel’s future, I argued that the nation was defined above all by language. A nation’s citizens had to speak in the same tongue, for this is how the all important ‘societal culture’ is maintained. If the citizenry has a shared language, all other distinctions cease t matter, and minority will flourish the same as majority.

My argument didn’t take India into account. The Constitution of India recognizes twenty-two languages, and there are thirty-five Indian languages spoken by over a million people. Hindi, the most common language, is understood by only around half the population; its grammar is totally different to the languages spoken in the south or northeast. And then there’s English, powerfully stalking the sidelines, spoken fluently by around 2% of the population, while a further 10-15% understand the basics.

Perhaps nothing sums up India’s linguistic peculiarities more than the following story: In 1996 the Prime Minister, Deve Gowda, delivered the annual Independence Day address in a language he didn’t understand, Hindi. As a southerner, he didn’t speak it, but the law required that he give the address in it. In the months leading up to the address, he promised to master Hindi, and the words were ultimately written out for him in his native Kannadan script.

Amidst the tumult surrounding India’s religious and caste divisions, it is often forgotten that the country is divided on primarily linguistic lines. Language provided the rationale for how the states were carved up after independence, and tensions over the issue occasionally turn violent, as recent events in West Bengal demonstrated. Because of these tensions, there has never been a pan-Indian language. Indian nationalist luminaries – Gandhi and Tagore included, agreed – perhaps surprisingly – that it might be better if Hindi became first among equals, but this has never come to pass.

Is India a dramatic exception to the rule, or a model for others to follow? Whatever the country’s shortcomings may be, one fact is indisputable: there is a shared notion of Indianness, one that has somehow managed to transcend – with occasional violent exceptions – other allegiances. India has been roust and confident enough to remain a broad, pluralist temple.

In language terms, there is one significant flaw to all this – the status of English. Western-educated Indian intellectuals are surprisingly proud about English’s pre-eminence, as a result it goes relatively unchallenged. Shashi Tharoor, for example, writes as follows: “the Indian professional elite is educated in English, so that English has a far more genuine ‘national’ existence: it is the language in which the Indian government officials would naturally converse, in which two teenagers might discuss cricket or music, in which a Madras journalist might instinctively address a Bombay businessman, and in which the ‘national media’ (those publications aiming at a countrywide audience) are published. It is undoubtedly the language of a small minority, but its speakers feel no minority complex at all.” Of course not, for they are the elites.

Is this really something to be proud of? English is the world’s pre-eminent language, for a developing country to produce fluent speakers of it is vital. But it becoming the language of the elites is another matter entirely. Before coming here, people told me with confidence that most Indians speak a little English. Not in my experience. Many may have a smattering of words, but competency is reserved for those in the tourist trade or the middle-classes: speaking English is a sign that marks you out from your less educated and less privileged countrymen.

This is an irony I can’t comprehend. Indian intellectuals will happily condemn the Raj in its entirety (with the possible exception of the trains), while at the same time reveling in the fact that they can communicate their Indianness in English, the language brought to India by the imperialists. There is a famous quote, the words of which unfortunately escape me, about India being able to absorb the best of what its would-be conquerors bring, before spitting them out when the time is right. This implies a wily, cunning national ethos, and Tharoor & Co would no doubt view the absorption of English in the same spirit. I fear, however, that they are missing the wood for the trees.

Take Israel, for example. English is widely spoken – people understand that mastering it is of great importance in getting ahead in the world, a fact reflected in the excellent instruction in school. This has not come, however, at the expense of the societal culture. There are English newspapers and cultural events, yes, but this has not affected the extraordinary revival of Hebrew, purveyors of which are renowned the world over. Because there is no particular reverence for English, there is no threat. It’s just realpolitik – knowledge of English is vital for being part of a globalised world.

In India, as noted, English is a social divider. More than that, it’s accompanied, in elite circles, by values which seem to be left over from the Raj – deference, hierarchy, formality – with English used as the weapon. I witnessed this for myself last week in the 1st Class Waiting Room at Sealdah Train Station in Calcutta, where a woman expressed her exasperation to the attendant asking her to move her luggage in English, a language he didn’t understand. Pavan K Varna argues that these unfortunate aspects of Indian society have far more ancient antecedents, either way India won’t be truly free until it emancipates itself from them.

By all means ensure that your people speak good English, just as you should ensure that they are literate. But don’t let this come at the expense of a national culture. India’s Babel is exciting and genuinely radical. If a Keralan and a Bengali sit down for chai, there surely has to be a better solution than having them speak in English.

http://wanderingsatlan.blogspot.com/2008/0...e-babel-or.html

Hindus have a soft spot for jews, since there is the commonality of enemies

However, keep in mind that Judaism is the root of our problems
with Abraham and his jealous god

I am worried that there are too many jew hindu marriages going on in silicon valley

Just google up Hinjew

Also, consider Swami Dayanand's Hindu-Jew summit

While it is well and good, there is no need to grovel
He said Hinduism in only monotheistic
That is grovelling
Some forms of hinduism is monotheistic and some is polytheistic

The dumb RSS always praises eastern kerala xtians

However, what is not well understood is that when the portuguese first showed up in kerala, the local kerala xtians immediately sided with the invader against the hindu kings
( per portuguese archives )

Later on, they found out the hard way, that unless they became catholic, they would be burnt in the fires of the inquisition

Even today, hindus are more oppressed in eastern xtian russia than in the west

Many hindus foolishly have a soft spot for buddhism

The fact is that buddhists despise us

In 1937, the partition of Myanmar from India was done by the agitation of buddhist monks

In buddhist thailand, they hate Indians and kiss ass of chinese

In post independence Myanmar, 6 million tamil hindus have been forced to declare
themselves as buddhists

The Buddhists of Bhutan have expelled their hindu population

The tibetan buddhists prior to the chinese invasion of 1950, were trying to get back ladakh and arunachal pradesh

In the west, buddhists do everything to disavow their hindu roots

I also seriously question whether dalits were ever buddhists

IMHO, untouchability began with buddhism
In Japan, the butchers became burakumin or untouchable

In thailand, the butchers are of a low caste

The jataka tale puts meat eating communities as low caste

The original inscriptions of the Indus Civilization are now readable for everyone. India was standing on the top of progress 5000 years ago. All texts are for free download at: http://www.indus-civilization.info <!--emo&:ind--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/india.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='india.gif' /><!--endemo-->

As you know, I try to produce multimedia videos in my spare time on behalf of what I view to be nationalist causes.

http://www.youtube.com/channelphor

This year, one very important cause for me is to help the NDA defeat the UPA in the general election and form the next government. If you share that point of view, please read on.

I aim to perform the same service on NDA's behalf, as the 527 groups did for American political candidates during the US Elections. 527s are organizations like the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (on the Republican side) and MoveOn.Org (on the Democratic side)... created to influence the nomination, election, appointment or defeat of candidates for public office.

As part of this effort I hope to produce several short multimedia video clips, and distribute them over Youtube and other web video outlets. Their message will be succinct: we cannot afford any more UPA misrule. For the sake of the nation, the NDA must form the next government.

However, since the elections are already approaching (no later than May this year), time is running short... so preparing and producing these videos may require more effort than one person alone could make. Hence, I'm making this post asking if any of you are willing to contribute some time and effort for this purpose.


Most of the effort needed would be in the form of internet research: to come up with news sources and citations, as well as to search for photographs, images and sound/music clips that we would want to incorporate into our videos. Also for shareware/freeware programs that can be used for simple file-format conversions etc. Basically the same kind of stuff we do on IF a lot of the time but organized into a concerted effort :-)

If you're interested, please email me at cherenzig AT gmail DAWT com. Please respond as soon as possible, we may not have a lot of time.