This is a thread that will explore the various ways Indian governance can improve so as to provide better value to the people.

In this regard, I propose the following

1. More courts, faster justice
2. Higher pay for Police and Administrative services to discourage corruption. The (initial ) reduction in man-power will have to be supported by more people's involvement in such services.
3. Extremely high pay for the elected politicians.
4. Decentralizing governance, a Zilla/district as a fundamental unit of the Indian federation
5. Central government only handles External security, foriegn policy, common law.

Administration is no different from industry, an efficient administrator must be paid as much as a Industry CEO with similiar responsibility gets paid. The police and judges should be elected by the people. The people should be able to recall them easily if they do not deliver.

As representatives of the people, the elected politicians should be paid by the people who elect them. Obviously the richer the district the more competition for getting elected from there. The poorer the district -> there is an incentive to develop the district and make it richer.

States should not be doled out money on the basis of their populations, instead all money should go to a confederation of central banks of India and should be disbursed as a loan to various entities (state govt., private companies etc etc). The idea is that money put into a state must be returned with interest. obviously then only projects that good return on investment shall pass. The Entities that borrow ,money shall be a state govt. who will be responsible. Inshort there should be no Political parties but political companies.

Of course some of these ideas are not feasible and may create problems. But there is convincing evidence that the current political system of India cannot deliver peace and prosperity to its people.

Valuable Link

The Report of the Commission of Inquiry - 1971 War as Declassified by The Government of Pakistan. - Hamoodur Rehman

Stopping xtian missionaries
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The total evangelical budget is $150 bil a year of which we can assume that
$75 bil is allotted for India

Next I make the reasonable assumption, that it takes 100 X the money to make
a convert as it is to retain a convert

So a carefully targeted hindu charity of $1 bil / year will fully stop this

This rests on a triad
1. Mobile medical van with paramedic
2. Primary school
3. Small temple

Suggested charities

http://www.ekal.org

http://www.idrf.org

Bharat Sevashram Sangha

Aim for Seva

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If you understand that xtianity is a parasitical implant on the western Indo-european cultural group, you can see the decay of its hold
Church attendance is 5 % in western europe and 30% in US
So how much longer will the western public be funding conversion drives
now that their homeland is under attack from islamic immigrants

Next the increasing economic prosperity in India decreases the scope for rice xtians

Major martyred, his family doesn’t flinch

Friday November 21 2003 10:16 IST

PANCHKULA: "Ufff..." That one word brings home the agony 19-year-old Namish is going through. It was a moan that started early on Thursday morning, much before the Vats learnt that their elder son Major Navneet Vats was no more.



‘‘It’s like our younger son had a telepathic connection with Navneet,’’ says the Major’s mother, Vichitra Veena, displaying amazing composure while relatives stream in with condolences at their house in Sector 4, Panchkula.



‘‘He would get excited a day before Navneet was to come home and cry bhaiya, bhaiya. On Thursday, all that he’s been saying is ‘uffff’,’’ she says. Namish is mentally-challenged.



Maj Vats died in Srinagar on Thursday after six bullets ripped through his body, piercing the point where the plates of his bullet proof vest joined. ‘‘What has happened has happened. It could have happened anywhere. He has served the nation, done his bit and gone forever. It cannot be undone,’’ sighs the brave mother.



Equally brave, the young Major’s wife Shivani, married to him in 1999, keeps her composure holding her three-year-old daughter Inayat.



Niraj Vats, the Major’s father, swallows as he says: ‘‘We had always thought that after we are gone, our elder son will take care of the younger one. Now, we don’t know what will happen to him after us.’’



Around 6.15 in the morning, Major Vats and a soldier of the 32 Rashtriya Rifles lost his life in the 48-hour encounter with militants in Srinagar.



Navneet’s brother-in-law Major Alok Dutt of the Armoured Corps, who had rushed in from Nabha, said Navneet was known for leading soldiers into battle from the front.

Please use this thread for collecting news and for all discussions on Bangladesh.



The main idea of this thread is to focus on Bangladeshi actions and how it impacts us, & vice versa. No economic discussions, at this point.

I know this is a sensitive subject given our current reality - but let us try and discuss this without rancour or abusivenes .



Here is what Praful Goradia wrote in the Pioneer :





Go 'home', Geelani & friends' (Nov 2), by Mr Chandan Mitra contains what many Indians strongly feel. However, their's is an after-thought. Qaid-e-Azam MA Jinnah and some of his Muslim League colleagues had considered the need for an exchange of populations. All the Muslims were to emigrate to Pakistan and the non-Muslims were to come to Hindustan. Their demands came out in Dawn which was then published from Delhi. A few relevant extracts from these reports were reproduced in a recently published book called the Muslim League's Unfinished Agenda. Dr BR Ambedkar had considered a transfer of population an absolute necessity way back in 1940. "The only way to make Hindustan homogeneous is to arrange for exchange of population,"according to Volume 8 of his Speeches and Writings.









The neglect of the question of population transfer by Hindu leaders in 1947 was yet another link in the chain of our civilisation's failure. The root of the failure could lie in the Hindu disinterest in history, political theory, strategic thinking and national or civilisational unity. Muhammad bin Qasim might not have conquered Sind in 712 AD if only the kings of India had realised the long-term danger that an Islamic invasion posed. Had they done so, they might have combined their strength to ensure Raja Dhir's survival. In many ways, history was repeated in 1192 when Prithviraj Chauhan was let down by Jaichand and his allies, duly defeated and killed by Muhammad Ghauri at the Second Battle of Terain.







The Slave Dynasty established by Qutbuddin Aibak was not permanent. It was succeeded by one dynasty after another, whether Khilji or Tughlak or Lodhi, eventually ending with the Mughal emperors. Many an opportunity must have arisen in the five centuries when the Hindus could have overturned the Muslim rulers. Yet nothing happened. It is estimated that during the greater part of this period the Muslim population did not exceed 10 per cent. Yet, 90 per cent took the foreign oppression lying down most of the time.







Arnold Toynbee, the British historian, spent a lifetime arriving at a theory which he called, "Challenge and Response". The thrust of his thesis was that a civilisation flourished only when it could rise and respond to a challenge. To carry Mr Toynbee to his logical conclusion might have been to fear the end of the Hindu civilisation. Had the British not intervened to defeat what was largely Muslim rule, the fate of the Hindu ethos could have been sad. It is not widely recognised that the service Lord Clive and his successors performed was to reduce the Muslims from rulers to subjects thus giving the Hindus a level-playing field.







The Hindu Renaissance beginning with Raja Ram Mohun Roy was unlikely to have taken place had the British not intervened. Contrast Indian history with what happened in Europe. Only a year before Qasim conquered Sind, the Moors had captured Spain. Although it took several centuries before the Europeans could extinguish Muslim rule, nevertheless western Europe was cleared.







In the second millennium the Ottoman Empire, which proved to be as powerful as the Mughal empire, was established. It left few stones unturned in order to conquer large tracts of Europe. They laid siege to Vienna twice: In 1523 and 1683. Yet, they could not break through. The only areas where the Muslim influence survived were Bosnia Herzegovina, Albania and Bulgaria. The way Europe could deal with Islam, Hindustan could also have done the same.

I have come across multiple sources which speculate that Patalaloka in Hindu mythology has been mistranslated as being the underground, whereas the correct translation should be "the land under our feet" ie the Americas.



If this viewpoint is correct, doesn't it mean that ancient Indians were aware of the existance of Americas?

If the big-wigs are againt posting the images, please delete.



Please post historical maps of India and Indian provices/kingdoms.





British India:

American diplomacy and the 1999 Kargil summit at Blair house

by Bruce Reidel

[url="http://www.sas.upenn.edu/casi/reports/RiedelPaper051302.htm"]http://www.sas.upenn.edu/casi/reports/Ried...Paper051302.htm[/url]



Errant RAND gets real about India

G. Parthasarathy

[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/secon2.asp?cat=\edit3&d=Edits"]http://www.dailypioneer.com/secon2.asp?cat...2;edit3&d=Edits[/url]



Foreign Policy and national security

Brahma Chellaney

[url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bharatnirbhaya/message/709"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bharatnirbha...aya/message/709[/url]



Future Outlook: The Indian Islamic Problem



[url="http://www.saveindia.com/futuremuslim.htm"]http://www.saveindia.com/futuremuslim.htm[/url]



India's Emerging Nuclear Doctrine:Exemplifying the Lessons of the Nuclear Revolution

Ashley J. Tellis

[url="http://www.nbr.org/publications/analysis/vol12no2/12.2.pdf"]http://www.nbr.org/publications/analysis/v...l12no2/12.2.pdf[/url]





MISSILE PROLIFERATION: CHINA GOES TO BAT FOR PAKISTAN



[url="http://china.jamestown.org/pubs/view/cwe/002/013_002.htm"]http://china.jamestown.org/pubs/view/cwe/0...002/013_002.htm[/url]



Musharaff brought region to brink of war

Chidanand Rajghatta



[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Articleshow.asp?art_id=9956437"]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Article...?art_id=9956437[/url]





Overt assistance from Pakistan may bring dire consequences



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Kaushal: Your last link needs membership access to this yahoo group. Can you please post the contents of this link in say our civilization thread and repoint the link to that. Delete this note later - Viren



- Done. However, the IF thread will Graduate to the trash can eventually and we need to put this in the library

The most poignant and realistic statement to come out of Washington DC is Rumsfeld’s analysis that the war against global terrorism will not be over so long as more terrorists are being turned out in madrassas.

In other words, madrassas should be stopped from turning out terrorists. This is the key strategy for success in the world war against terror.

Kalyanaraman



Prof.Kalyan



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