Gay sex decriminalised in India

Gay people celebrating the ruling in Delhi, India





A court in the Indian capital, Delhi, has ruled that homosexual intercourse between consenting adults is not a criminal act.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8129836.stm



What do you think about it? What is hinduism stance on homosexuality? What is Hindu Right Winger stance on Homosexuality? I read that VHP made a rally against the decision. I think homosexuality destroys family values and decriminalizing homosexual act is the first step towards more "gay rights" (like gay marriage, adoption for gay parents etc.)

Without doing actual development and engage in true spirited welfare ,the corrupt governments one after the other and politicians of various hues have joined together in westernisation and re-colonisation attempts under the fraud of 'Globalisation and liberalisation' slogans.It is merely clamndestine license to drain wealth from third world countries.Ofcourse this canb only be done by throwing crums to local poltciians,babus and some busienssmen. It is always collaboration with insiders.

The presence of Israel in defense supplies and technology to India is ever increasing and is intimidating. Israel a ethnic war torn country needs money badly to continue its battle.Defense supplies is one major source of earning where huge profits are there to pass on US technology indirectly.It is easy to give kickbacks including to opposition leaders of major parties in a country and defense accounts do not appear in public as easily as for other public spending.Another way to show development but to eat public money is roads and such projects that are highly visible and easily manuipulated to siphon off money from system.

The best tool is now reservations. People fall for it in the dreams and hope to outsmart others in society for short term gains( Rent seeking).It is too inducing an issue which can't be confronted by self seeking and greedy boneless politicians from all parties.They would go to any extent to generate vote banks in society.National issues and development are no longer the agenda in country.



The President of a poor country like India apes US president by ordering AirForce 1 type costly and luxury planes to live and look like the opulent American masters. The politicians and babus are having whale of a time.Three times salaries and perks raise, new imported cars, new furnishings, foreign trips.All in name of liberalisation and globalisation. Truly the babus and politicians have got liberalised now.No accountability. No limits to corruption,salaries and perks and no questions asked about output.



Mix with it 60% reservations in name of ST,SC,OBC,Minority, gender and on and on and it is a heady cocktail to desist.Almost 30% of Indian GDP is eaten away by these babus and politicians. It is a huge cost of governance.It is making society slowly hollow and overburdened. It is not sustainable for long.Stock market prices are not the development benchmark.These are to create euphoria and dreams.The yield from new proiperty and stocks is not even 1% today.It is so unrealistic under west directed economics lessons.



Foreign Universities are being allowed now to the country where they will fleece Indians with dollar converted fees as they will be essentially self financed tutoring centres only and not real research based universities running on consultancy and charity i.e. endowment funds, like in Europe and USA.

The result will be blatant westernization and shooting up of cost of higher education in country.All third rate schools in India will also then copy and raise fees.It has already happened after the HRD ministry of Arjun Singh allowed 10 times fee hikes by IIMs in recent past.Knowing fully well what is going to happen, these people sold to US capitalists are going ahead to destroy India.The dramatics of Kapil Sibbal are hardly digestible.Under a slogan of quality he is armtwisting private sector univbersoitie and institutes while conveneinetly overlooking completely rotten and ill equipped state owned university system.Instead of reforming these he is bent upon to import education and make a mess of education in India fooling people that he is doing something new and great.It is old wine in new bottle.New terminology only.By changing name of UGC corruption and low standrads of administration wont change.Corruption wont change.He is doing just

opposite..It is silly that on one hand government peddles liberalisation and deregulation and on other hand it is clutching the education system by trying to overreguylate it.What are real intentions behind it? Cut from money earned by private sector?

What about health sector that is badly ignored.Where are regulation there? and in Pharma selling? Drug Controller of India should come out with a white paper on costs of various medicines in year 2000 and today.



It is time, brakes are now applied on colonisation going on,psuedo globalisation, reckless westernisation, attack of MNC institutions in India and rising costs of living and propety and corruption in country.Reservation which is more dangerous than terrorist bombs has to be done away with.



There is no need to pass women reservation bill which has big holes and does not serve any purpose in society or any value addition.

It is mere gimmick.The boneless and corrupt opposition leaders wont protest as they have no guts to oppose any reservation with eye on vote banks.India is being ruthlessly fragmentized and compartmentalised. Instead of removing gender differences and castes, the wily politicians are now firmly institutionalising caste,tribes, communities, religion and gender as tools to divide society and weaken it for decades to come.Reservations are no substitute to development and real work on ground.In fact these admit the failure of State to develop and protect various sections of society.



Terrorism is also largely generated by State mismanagement and atrocities.Be it USA or India.It is futile to blame Pakistan alone.Indian politicians and babudom are no less.



New and fresh thinking is needed .



People should resist and protest the sins being committed by UPA governbment one after the other and stop praising them by reading false media write ups in their favor by a corrupt and sold out media.



It is time to test and show power of people.Educated and technology savvy Indians specially youth should come forward and come together.Internat is one such medium.



Throw the corrupt politicians out including from all parties.Ask for targets and benchmarks in every thing and reforms of election process and judicial system ( a big fraudlent and costly set up in country) immediately.

Ask for reversing the price hike in cuntry by limiting government wasteful spending, reducing multiple taxation and containing money circulation in country.The growth rate like 8-12 % is unmanageable and too fast for a third rate country like India having no maturity,technology , infrstructure and and clean public life.



Moderate growth rate with efficient and clean low cost government is must for saving India from impending disaster.Aping american life style and alowing MNCs to loot india will prove very costly to our coming generations.

.India very much looks like american and british colony already. We are no where their income levels but we have increase dout costs to their level.Huge amount of national wealth is going out from India through MNCs and corrupt polticians and businessmen plundering the country in a wily nexus.The share market prices are engineered periodically to mislead people and give them feel good factor like NDA did.Most of securities are overvalued.



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The concept we call "supernatural" emerged in Western culture in the late Middle Ages. Philosophers of the time were observing that natural phenomena consistently follow "laws" intrinsic to nature. The word "supernatural" originally referred to an occurrence that violates known laws of nature. Of course, that leaves open the possibility that nature has laws we don't know about.

In time, "supernatural" came to refer to an occurrence in which an unseen force or intelligence willfully interferes with the laws of nature and causes something to happen that shouldn't happen naturally. It can also refer to existence outside the natural world, a place where one is not bound by gravity, entropy, linear time, whatever.

A few days ago I found a post by blogger Sujato called "Buddhism and the Supernatural," who argues "The very notion of 'Supernatural' is one that, it seems to me, arises from Western philosophical assumptions." I'm not sure I agree with that entirely, but on reflection it does seem there are "assumptions" at work, cultural or otherwise, in what we choose to label "natural" and "supernatural."

Buddhism on the whole doesn't require belief in unseen beings somehow guiding or disrupting natural events. Some schools of Buddhism actively discourage such beliefs, although plenty of Buddhists believe in them, anyway. On the other hand, vajrayana appears to have turned such beliefs into upaya -- skillful means for realization. But I would say that even in vajrayana belief in unseen spirits or forces is the vehicle, not the destination.

The dharma brings forth a proposition -- there is something to be realized or discovered or woken up to, to which most of us are oblivious. And this something is not reachable by intellect alone, or the Buddha could have simply explained it to us. Instead, he left us with a path of practice so we can wake up ourselves.

Is this "something" supernatural? Or is it something natural that usually eludes the scope of our senses and intellect? Or is it something to which the concepts of natural and supernatural do not apply?

The degree to which this something is invested with "supernatural" aspects varies from school to school. In some sutras, awakened beings exhibit what most of us would recognize as supernatural powers. Should we understand this literally or allegorically? Or some other way?

Zen, which is something of an outlier in these matters, fiercely extols the ordinary. Master Bankei said, "My miracle is that when I'm hungry, I eat, and when I am tired, I sleep." But I'd say that often we sort experiences into "ordinary" and "extraordinary" based on those assumptions mentioned above. And sometimes we can be utterly oblivious to very ordinary things.

Take, for example, gravity. I have read that before Sir Isaac Newton worked out his theory of gravity there was no English word for "gravity" as a physical phenomenon. Newton corresponded about his work with his friend Edmond Halley, and in some of this correspondence words didn't exist for what they were talking about. They were discussing something that had always existed but which was so taken for granted, no one fully realized it.

Sure, people before Newton had observed that stuff falls, but Newton was the one who perceived that this stuff-falling-thing was a force, a natural law. We've all conceptualized gravity differently ever since. Newton's story of realizing the truth of gravity when an apple fell on his head probably was a fabrication. But there may have been a moment when some awareness came over him and he realized for the first time there was something he'd been overlooking that needed to be understood.

Until we have that moment, what is it we're not seeing?

Believing in ghosts and hobgoblins may be a form of ignorance, but so is assuming that our brains and senses are presenting us with absolute reality. It is because of the way our senses take in data, the way our brains organize that data, and the way culture has conditioned our conceptual assumptions that the world appears to us as it does. What are we not seeing? What's right in front of us that's outside of our awareness? And by what criteria do we judge it to be "natural" or "supernatural"?

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The crazy Supreme court decision lifting the stay on 4% muslim quota in Andhra is a major step to another partition

Hello friends,

can you help me?

I need some data for my research project. I need the data for "life expectancy" for each of the 28 Indian states. Does somebody know where to get it for free and fast (best via internet)? Time is running for me, so I need the data in few days and I am not in India, so I can't buy sth. there or request sth. via post.

I searched in the internet and all I found was data on major states. But I also need the life expectancy (best not older then 2002) as well from Nagaland, Mizoram, Manipur, etc.

Can someone help me with this challenging task?

Thanks a lot in advance.

ArunKumar

I have opened this thread to discuss trends in the post-nineteenth century Hindu intellectual tradition.



1. Since the Hindu intellectual tradition is 'experiential' and inherently different from (monotheist-derived) ideologies, does it even make sense to speak of an Hindu intellectual tradition? Are the so-called western standards and stupendously elaborate theories truly bankrupt (as many suspect that they are), and thus it is a fools errand to expect Hindu output along the same lines?



2. Do Indian anti-colonial social analysis (eg RM, Balagangadhara), anti-colonial geopolitical analysis (Sandhya Jain), and Indian sociopolitical analysis (Kanchan Gupta, Arun Shourie) have the potential to morph into full-blown counterparts and alternatives to the hallowed western pretenders? Do the nouveau Indian historical analyses have such potential or is it merely enough to demolish the Thapars and Witzels?



3. Why are the seculars pressing the point of the supposed intellectual bankruptcy of Hindutva? Is it merely an abusive tactic?



4. Is heathenism a valid resurgence plank among the formerly colonized?



5. Have certain Hindutva intellectual traditions been appropriated and thus silenced as evidences of positive Hindutva creativity for the youth?



6. Are the Indian youth intellectually restless and looking for an intellectual outlet? Is this the reason for constant media, secular, and western demonization of hindutva intellectual output?







Please post more questions and answers.....

Pak cricket has been rocked by bans and fines and scandals. These men sold their country down the drain, en block. Whole team is unreliable, all players are unreliable.



If they could sell their country, can they be expected to be loyal to IPL? NO.

Mob politics reached Rajya Sabha as this bill passed it and here is what it may bring in it's passage thru Lok Sabha:

Congress on its part may have to live with the fact that desertion by SP and RJD as UPA supporters will mean a loss of 26 MPs. It will bring it close to the majority mark and leave it groping for free-floating individuals like Jaya Prada, Jaswant Singh, Digvijay Singh, small parties like JD(S) and its own allies like Trinamool Congress.



The party brass seems to have taken a decision that it can indulge in counter brinkmanship with allies who too need Congress in view of crucial battles in Bengal and Tamil Nadu.



Though survival may not be a real threat, it does leave the ruling benches with the task of managing numbers ahead of every crucial bill, particularly those relating to finance.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india...665233.cms

[center]Singapore denounces pastor for ridiculing Buddhists



Posted March 6, 2010





Feb 9,2010

Reuters.com

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[/center]SINGAPORE (Reuters Life!) - Singapore has warned a Christian pastor that his online videos are offensive to Buddhists and Taoists, underlining the city-state's concerns that religion is a potential faultline for its multicultural society.



Pastor Rony Tan, of Lighthouse Evangelism, apologized and pulled the video clips off the internet after being visited by the government's Internal Security Department on Monday, the pastor and the government said on their websites.



The Ministry of Home Affairs said in a statement on Tuesday Tan's comments were "highly inappropriate and unacceptable," and could "give rise to tension and conflict between the Buddhist/Taoist and Christian communities."



The clips are no longer available online, but the Straits Times said they involved ridiculing beliefs, including Buddhist concepts of rebirth, karma and nirvana, drawing laughter from Tan's audience.



Singpore's move comes after rising religious tensions in neighboring Malaysia, where churches and mosques have been hit by arson and vandalism in recent weeks amid a row over the use of the word "Allah" by Christians.



Singapore last week arrested three youths aged between 17 and 18 for posting remarks on Facebook that have been deemed to be racist, local media reported.



They are likely to be charged under the Sedition Act, under which anyone found guilty of promoting feelings of ill will or hostility against other races or religions faces fines of up to S$5,000 ($3,520) as well as the possibility of being jailed for up to three years.



Singapore, which saw deadly racial riots in the 1950s and 1960s, is a base for many multinational companies which value its stability, infrastructure and proximity to fast-growing Asian markets.



Buddhists and Taoists account for half of Singapore's nearly 5 million population. Muslims and Christians account for 15 percent each.



Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said in a speech last August that religious and racial tensions were the country's biggest potential social faultlines.



(Reporting by Nopporn Wong-Anan; Editing by Neil Chatterjee)

You must have heard the phrase about Indologists love for Hindus/India is akin to pedophile's love for children.

Wendy Doniger's epitomizes that and much more.



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Quote:Online campaign seeks ban on Doniger’s book on Hindu history



PNS | New Delhi



An online campaign has been launched to demand the withdrawal of Wendy Doniger’s book, ‘Hindus: An Alternative History’ on the grounds that the book was “rife with numerous errors..perhaps intended to mislead students of Indian and Hindu history”.



The petitioners have asked the publishers to apologise for the publication of the “factually incorrect and offensive book”.



They further added, “The Hindus: An Alternative History is rife with numerous errors in its historical facts and Sanskrit translations. These errors and misrepresentations are bound and perhaps intended to mislead students of Indian and Hindu history.”



The petitioners claimed that Doniger had analysed the “revered Hindu Gods and Goddesses using her widely discredited psychosexual Freudian theories that modern, humanistic psychology has deemed limiting. These interpretations are presented as hard facts and not as speculations.”



Doniger, according to them, has made various faulty assumptions about the tradition in order to arrive ‘at her particular spin’. In the process, the beliefs, traditions and interpretations of practising Hindus were simply ignored or bypassed without the unsuspecting reader knowing this to be the case, they said.



The petitioners have charged that the book was “clumsily written, each chapter is a shocking and appalling series of anecdotes which denigrate, distort and misrepresent Hinduism and the history of India and Hindus. Doniger uses selective quotations from obscure and non-original, peripheral and ignorant references with a bizarre emphasis on sexuality and eroticism.”



They have taken umbrage to a reference where, in their view the author says that in Rigveda 10.62, it is implied that a woman may find her own brother in her bed! “The hymn has no such suggestion. It is offensive to suggest that the sacred text of Hindus has kinky sex in it,” they said.



The petition draws attention to a comparison made in the book, likening the Vedic devotee worshipping different Vedic deities with a lying and a philandering boyfriend cheating on his girlfriend(s). “It ignores the fact that in the Rigveda, the Gods are said to be all united, born of one another, and from the same source,” the petitioners pointed out.



The online petitioners have also strongly objected to the comments supposedly taken from an epic that “Dasharatha’s son is certainly ‘lustful’... Rama knows all too well what people said about Dasharatha; when Lakshmana learns that Rama has been exiled, he says, “The king is perverse, old, and addicted to sex, driven by lust.” While contesting the observation, the petition said, “The highly acclaimed and critical edition of Valmiki’s Ramayana records no such statement attributed to Lakshmana. An imagined phrase, ‘kama-sakta’ is mistranslated as ‘addicted to sex’ by the author whereas it normally means ‘filled with desires’. Valmiki uses a phrase ‘samani-madhah’ (trans. Possessed of passion).



The petitioners have listed out several other instances of ‘facutal errors’ and ‘insulting’ accounts of ancient Hindu history in demanding a withdrawal of the book.



BJD MP demands book withdrawal



The controversy over the contents of author Wendy Doniger’s book, ‘The Hindus: An Alternative History’ found an echo in the Lok Sabha on Thursday. BJD member Bhartruhari Mahtab demanded during Zero Hour the withdrawal of the book by its publishers.



Mahtab said the Government should press upon the publishers, Penguin, to withdraw the book. The contents were in bad taste, he claimed, adding that it showed Hindu Gods in poor light. He urged the Central Government to ban the book from circulating in the country and avoid communal tensions. Mahtab also asked the Government to alert the enforcement agencies for prevention of entry/import of the book from other countries.