Military and Geoplotical forces that affect India are global in nature. Thus Indian defense also requires keeping a vigil that is beyond Indian-Subcontinent (I.e. beyond Near-Indic region, a.k.a Central Asia, China, Afganistan, Iran).



This thread is to monitor developments whose flames can reach Indian-sub continent.



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This news of French testfiring their latest long range M15 missile from submarine is a milestone, in modern warfare.



[url="http://www.spacewar.com/reports/France_test-fires_submarine-launched_missile_999.html"]

France test-fires submarine-launched missile[/url]

Quote:Paris (AFP) Jan 27, 2010

France successfully test-fired on Wednesday its new M51 strategic missile from a nuclear submarine, the first test at sea after three land-based firings, the defence ministry said. France's newest strategic nuclear submarine "Le Terrible" launched the test at 9:25 am (0825 GMT) from the Audierne Bay in the Atlantic and "everything went as planned" said a statement from the defence ministry.



The M51 has a range of 8,000 kilometres (5,000 miles) and enjoys better accuracy than the current M45 ballistic missile carried by France's four nuclear-armed submarines.



The M51 Missile

have a look at this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuBlHHqfI...r_embedded

see what sohail tanvir says at 4:20

no indian news channel will report this

Friends,



I am doing a research work on Sikhs who were from a Brahmin background. There is a already one book published but my work is expanding on Haripur Hazara and Kashmir region as well. I will appreciate if knowledable community share some information regarding this area's Sikhs.



Please download and read book in Punjabi on short history book. It will be translated to English soon. The published on Brahmin Sikhs is very interesting and some information you can find from this PDF http://www.banniamrit.com/books/BrahmanB...khiyee.pdf ...



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We need a thread to monitor Military development in Indian neighborhood.



So I propose to start this thread as an exception to the title of the IF Sub-section that is dedicated to Indian Military.



Admins pls feel free to move to a different subsection as deemed appropriate. (My suggestion if to create a sub-section called: "Military Discussion")



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[url="http://www.china-defense-mashup.com/?p=3900"]One Chinese J-10 Fighter Crashed in August, its Pilot awarded merit[/url]



Posted on 26 August 2009

August 27 (China Defense Mashup Reporting by Johnathan Weng) — On August 25, the PLA Air Force awarded pilot Meng Fansheng the first-class merit for his successful disposing the air crisis of J-10 fighter.



On the eve of the Army Day which fell on August 1, Meng Fansheng, first-class pilot of the PLA Air Force, successfully parachuted under the situation of the abrupt loss of the engine power when he piloted his J-10 fighter to take off to the height of 680 m from the ground in the flight training.



PLA Air Force’s investigation showed that the AL-31F engine malfunction cause this accident and Meng Fansheng attempted to resume the power for several times, and manipulated his J-10 fighter to avoid the populous areas twice in the handling of the serious special situation.



J-10 is Chinese first indigenous third-generation fighter but its power is AL-31F Turbofan engine imported from Russia. China has developed “Taihang” Turbofan engine but its quality is not stable and cannot be used in J-10 single engine fighter yet.



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In March 2009, one J-10 fighter also met an engine failure during a training flight. Fortunately, the pilot Li Feng made a successful forced landing and saved his fighter.



Meng Fansheng, ethnic Man, graduated from a flying academy of the PLA Air Force in 1996, has flied for 2,000 hours in total. And Li Feng is an air force pilot with more than 2,000 hours of flight time.



In July, a Chinese Air Force JH-7A fighter-bomber participating in the Sino-Russian “PeaceMission-2009″ joint anti-terror exercise crashed at Yaonan military training base in northeast China. Two pilots were dead.

Starting this threat to document the theft of Indias natural resources which has accelerated since the late nineties.

We believe we are wealthier as a nation but in reality we are poorer.

The list of resources that are being siphoned away of destroyed by MNCs, politicians, nations and wrong are



Mineral - ores, diamonds

Water - control of fresh water sources; water poisoning because of fertilizers and pesticides - coke and pepsi

Land - Destruction of soil productivity due to extensive use of poisonous fertilizers

Forests - Rampant destruction of forests by mining comglomerates

Biodiversity - Monoculture related destruction





Please feel free to add more.

Only Once Every 12 Years: Kumba Mela



Kumba Mela is also known as the "Holy Dip" or "Sacred Bath" at the locations identified as especially sacred along the Holy River Ganges on the most auspicious times during this auspicious period.



Kumba Mela is the ultimate opportunity for salvation and liberty from the endless cycle of birth and rebirth.



It is considered to be the single most important pilgrimage astrologically, spiritually and logistically; a rare event indeed.



This is the prime opportunity to wash away energies/karmas/negativity/sins from the last 12 year cycle and cleanse the way to a pure, light, new 12 year cycle.



[size="5"]The Age of Aquarius:[/size]

Astrologically this event has a special timing. Kumba Mela takes place in years when the planet Jupiter enters Aquarius, and the Sun enters Aries. This combination does not happen every year. These planetary positions occur together only once every 12 years.



Spiritually, the positive energies created at this time actually medicate the river water of the Ganges turning it to nectar on these auspicious days making enormous purification possible.



Logistically, as this event attracts godzillions of people from all over the world wishing to participate in this once every 12 years event, it is no surprise that accommodations in the areas are over loaded, as are most planes, trains and automobiles to even get there.

I think 90% of indians are of the same stock (indic/caucasoid) belonging to the indid subgroups (northindid/indobrachid/grazilindid). The weddoid element in india is overestimadet in my opinion. I know of high castes (usually brahmins/jatts/kshatriyas) who think all low castes and especially southindians are weddoid but thats not true in my book. I think majority of indians are caucasian. Indians are Aryans (noble people) not the europeans and the aryan culture is native to the subcontinent, there was no aryan invasion theory, it is also false to say aryans have blonde hair and blue eyes and pale skin. Aryans have black hair and golden skin. There shouldnt be a divide in indians. Whats your opinion about race in india? And where do roma gypsies fit in racially?



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Please post over all high level strategic security news and issues, which may not fit focused issue threads.



Members like ramana, Arun_S and Acharya, please post here or let me know, if such a thread exists here. Thanks.



[url="http://pragmatic.nationalinterest.in/2010/01/04/understanding-unutilised-defence-expenditure/"]Understanding unutilised defence expenditure[/url]

Quote:38 percent of the amount earmarked for new acquisitions was surrendered in 2008-09.

Most of us have noted — with great concern — that certain portion of the defence budget is returned to the government coffers unused every year. Those who go into slightly more detail are aware that this unexpended money is usually from the capital expenditure portion of the defence budget (for example, it was Rs 3500 crore in 2007-08).



Now let us look at it even far more closely. The capital expenditure is also divided into two broad categories: capital acquisition and other capital expenditure. Other capital expenditure consists of expenses incurred on items such as land, works, accommodation projects, ordnance factories, DRDO and other defence departments. This amounts to 20 to 25 percent of the total capital expenditure. The balance 75 to 80 percent of capital expenditure goes towards capital acquisition — the actual amount spent to procure military hardware and weapon platforms. The capital acquisition portion can be again subdivided into the one used to fund committed liabilities for items already procured in previous years and the other for new schemes.



Let us understand this better with a concrete example. In the last financial year 2008-09, the total defence budget (at the Budgetary Estimates stage in March 2008) was 105600 crore. Out of this, the revenue or running expenditure was supposed to be 57593 crore and the capital expenditure was to be 48007 crore. Now this was an unusual year where the total defence budget was actually increased by 9000 crore before the end of the financial year (called the Revised Estimates). This should have been a welcome move but it wasn’t so. For even this additional amount was not sufficient to meet the increased revenue expenditure due to implementation of sixth pay commission recommendations. The government actually reduced the capital expenditure by another 7007 crore and transferred it to the revenue head.



At the BE stage, the capital acquisition budget was supposed to be 37482.77 crore, which included committed liabilities of 17846.57 crore. When the actual capital acquisition budget finally spent in 2008-09 was 30000.42 crore, the expenditure on account of new schemes came down to 12153.85 crore from 19636.2 crore. Thus, the unutilised portion of 7482.35 crore that was returned was only from the amount earmarked from new schemes — over 38 percent. 38 percent!



This is a story which has been replayed year after year for last many years and is likely to be repeated in the current year, 2009-10 as well. The total defence budget for 2009-10 at the BE stage is 141703 crore, out of which revenue allocation is 86879 crore and the capital allocation is 54824 crore. The capital allocation portion for this year is 40367.72 crore which includes committed liabilities of 21248.98 crore and new schemes worth 19118.74 crore. Very interestingly, the allocation for new schemes planned this year, though more than actually spent last year, is actually lesser than what was planned for last year. So much for accelerated plans for military modernisation this year.



A detailed breakdown for defence budget of 2009-10 will be made available only after the release of a parliamentary defence committee report that reviews the grant of demands for defence ministry for 2010-11. But when the finance minister presents his next union budget to the parliament in March this year, watch out for the RE figure for capital expenditure on defence for 2009-10 [Demand number 27 of the Finance bill]. If that figure be X crore, then (54824 — X) crore will be the amount returned from the allocation of 19118.74 crore for new schemes in 2009-10. Let us see whether the figure will be less than 38 percent this year or more.

If you have followed the post so far, then you would have come to the conclusion that the genesis of the problem lies with the politico-bureaucratic lethargy and the tortuous acquisition procedures of the Indian government. But that is only a part of the problem. The bigger problem perhaps is with the way the budgetary allocation for defence is made every year by the government of India. That is where there is an urgent need in this country — to begin with — to study defence economics. And implement the lessons during the formulation of defence budget of this nation.

Hi All,

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Five lakh people throng Puri for New Year

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BHUBANESWAR: At least 5 lakh devotees and tourists from various parts of the country thronged Orissa's pilgrim city of Puri Thursday to usher in the

A majority of them have come to offer prayers at the 12th century Jagannath temple to begin their new year, while some arrived just to enjoy the year end and beginning of 2010 at the beach.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india...399612.cms