I started this topic to post exclusively about this great man, these days efforts are being made by commie traitors and morons like James Laine to portray Shivaji as a looter looking for adventure and nothing more (same thing with Maharana Pratap, Banda Singh and other national heroes). So I thought I would post some interesting stuff about Shivaji with supporting evidence that he fully aimed at an independent Hindu empire, to start this off an article by Sandhya Jain:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Demeaning Shivaji, denigrating dharma
Author: Sandhya Jain

Publication: The Pioneer
Date: January 27, 2004

Having purchased and read James Laine's Shivaji: Hindu King in Islamic India only after it was officially withdrawn by the publishers, I cannot view the events at the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute (BORI) as totally unjustified. Certainly, attacks on centres of learning have no place in Hindu ethos and must not recur. Yet, having gone through 105 pages of shoddy polemics posing as historical research, I am constrained to state that Oxford University Press needs to re-examine its commissioning policy if it hopes to retain credibility as a publishing house.

Moreover, the BORI scholars acknowledged by Laine must honestly inform the nation of the extent to which they are responsible for the unwarranted assertions - we cannot call them conclusions, as no evidence has been adduced or offered - in the impugned book. Far from being a meticulous scholar who has uncovered unpalatable truths about a revered historical figure, Laine is an anti-Hindu hypocrite determined to de-legitimize India's ancient civilizational ethos and its grand rejuvenation by Shivaji in the adverse circumstances of the seventeenth century. BORI is not generally associated with substandard scholarship, and should explicitly declare its position on the actual contents of the book.

Laine exposes his agenda when he foists the unnatural concept of South Asia upon the geographical and cultural boundaries of India; this is awkward because his discussion is India-centric and specific to the Maharashtra region. He is also unable to disguise his discomfort at the fact that Shivaji withstood the most bigoted Mughal emperor, Aurangzeb, and established political agency for the embattled Hindu community, amidst a sea of Islamic sultanates. This has so unnerved Laine that he repeatedly makes inane remarks about Hindus employed under Muslim rulers and vice versa, to claim that the two communities lacked a modern sense of identity, and could not be viewed as opposing entities. What he means, of course, is that Hindus of the era cannot be ceded to have had a sense of 'Hindu' identity.

Reading the book, I was struck by the fact that it did not once mention Shivaji's famed ambition to establish a Hindu Pad Padshahi. This is a strange omission in a work claiming to study how contemporary authors viewed Shivaji's historic role, and the assessment of his legacy by subsequent native and colonial writers. The most notable omission is of the poet Bhushan, who wrote: "Kasihki Kala Gayee, Mathura Masid Bhaee; Gar Shivaji Na Hoto, To Sunati Hot Sabaki!" [Kashi has lost its splendour, Mathura has become a mosque; If Shivaji had not been, All would have been circumcised (converted)].

Bhushan's verse has immense historical value because the Kashi Vishwanath temple was razed in 1669 and thus lost its splendour, and the Krishna Janmabhoomi temple was destroyed and converted into a mosque in 1670. Bhushan came to Shivaji's kingdom from the Mughal capital in 1671, and within two years composed Shiv Bhooshan, a biography of Shivaji. It clearly states that Shivaji wanted to set up a Hindu Pad Padshahi.

Hence the view that Shivaji had no ideological quarrel with Aurangzeb and was only an adventurer in search of power and resources is juvenile. Laine obviously subscribes to the secularist school of historiography that decrees that Hindus must forget the evil done to them, a phenomenon Dr. Koenraad Elst calls negationism. But history is about truth, and Hindu society's long and painful experience of Islamic invasions and the subsequent Islamic polity has been so well documented in standard works like Cambridge History of India, that it is amazing a modern historian should claim there was no tension between Muslim rulers and their Hindu subjects.

Shivaji strove consciously for political power as an instrument for the resurrection of dharma (righteousness), a quest he termed as "Hindavi Swarajya," a word having both geographical and spiritual-cultural connotations. When still in his teens in 1645 CE, Shivaji began administering his father's estate under a personalized seal of authority in Sanskrit, an indication that he envisaged independence and respected the Hindu tradition. A 1646 CE letter to Dadaji Naras Prabhu refers to an oath that Shivaji, Prabhu, and others took in the presence of the deity at Rayareshwar, to establish "Hindavi Swarajya."

Shivaji was aware of the economic ruin and cultural annihilation of Hindus under the various sultanates. He desired to end this suffering, but was personally free from bigotry, as attested by contemporary Muslim chroniclers, notably Khafi Khan. It is therefore galling when Laine smugly proclaims: "I have no intention of showing that he was unchivalrous, was a religious bigot, or oppressed the peasants." A.S. Altekar (Position of Women in Ancient India) has recorded how Shivaji, in stark contrast to Muslim kings and generals of his era, ensured that Muslim women in forts captured by him were not molested and were escorted to safety. It is inconceivable that Shivaji would not know that Hindu women similarly situated would have to commit jauhar. It is therefore incumbent upon Laine and BORI to explain what "unchivalrous" and "bigot" mean.

The insinuation about "bigot" is especially objectionable in view of Laine's insistence that Shivaji had no particular interest in Hindu civilization and no proven relationship with the revered Samarth Ramdas or sant Tukaram. A Maharashtrian friend suggests that Laine has probably not read the references cited in his book! What the reader needs to understand is that Ramdas' historical significance lies in the fact that he openly exhorted the people to rise against oppression and hinted in Dasbodh that Shivaji was an avatar who had come to restore dharma. By denying that he was Shivaji's spiritual mentor, Laine seeks to disprove that the great Maratha wanted to establish a Hindu Pad Padshahi.

Ramdas, a devotee of Rama (Vaishnava sampradaya), visited the Khandoba temple at Jejuri, Pune; apologized to the god (Shiva) for boycotting the temple due to the practice of animal sacrifice there; and built a Hanuman temple at its entrance. I mention this to debunk Laine's pathetic insistence that devotion to a personal god divides Hindu society. This is alien to our thinking; we see no conflict between Ramdas and the Bhavani-worshipping Shivaji.

Then, there is Laine's tasteless allegation that Shivaji may possibly (whatever that means) be illegitimate, simply because Jijabai, who bore many children while living with her husband in the south, gave birth to Shivaji on her husband's estate near Pune and continued to live there. Maharashtrians point out that Shahaji had to send his pregnant wife to safety in Shivneri due to political instability. Shahaji was on the run with the boy king Murtaza Nizamshah, in whose name he controlled the Nizamshahi. After its fall in 1636, service in the Adilshahi took him to Bangalore (his remarriage produced the distinguished Thanjavur-Bhonsle dynasty); he administered his Pune lands through Dadaji Konddev.

My response to Laine's profound Freudian analysis is that he has thanked his wife and children and dedicated his book to his mother; I couldn't but notice the absence of a father. Is one to deduce something from the omission? Laine can relax: since the Vedas, Hindus have placed only proportionate emphasis on biological bloodlines; there is no shame if a man cannot mention his father; a true b@st@rd is one who does not know the name of his mother.

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1.type in a text in Telugu script

2.convert english transliterated text into Telugu

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<b>Twin blasts rock Delhi's Jama Masjid, many injured</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A Red Alert has been sounded in the national Capital following the explosions on Good Friday.

While <b>no casualties have been reported, TV reports said that five injured people had been rushed to the Lok Narayan Jai Prakash (LNJP) Hospital</b>.

The first explosion took place at around 5 pm when devotees were preparing for 'Asar' (evening) prayer near a pond used by them for ablution.

Fifteen minutes later another blast rocked the place, eye witnesses said.
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Inside work or Karachi effect?
Low grade explosion means either warning to someone (Bukhari) in mosque or takeover push by Deaoband?

Hello,

Do you know the text called manasollAsa ?

This text was written by Somesvara Bhulokamalla in 1130 AD.

I know that one section describes a dice game called "golakakrIDane" or
"pasakakrida".

But I don't have this text. I just know that this section corresponds to verses from 634 to 712.

Do you have this text (or just this section) ? or a translation ?

Thank you for you help,
Frederic

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->What is there it enjoy? BC has put all his fears in one article and is spouting bile. He is missing the forest while he is stomping on the bushes.
Whenever a news article comes one shuld read it. See what it confirms and what new info it brings. Then look for point of view of the writer.
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This article is from Commie mouthpiece, so now you know where they stand. They are getting ready for showdown. Soon you will see more article on same line from U-Know-Who in US media. We should know what otherside is thinking and their road map to sabotage India's interest.

Regarding B Chellany and B Karnad, not sure do they really know inside out of whole deal, but it may just scare tactics to get more info from government.

India might have won her freedom over 50 years ago, but we are still ruled by police following british imperial rules. Time after time, we come across instances where the police , either in concert with the politicians or on their own have simply refused to treat indian citizens with respect.

A suspect in police custody does not have any rights and third degree interrogation techniques, that put Abu Gharib abuse to shame, have been used with impunity. Worse, the indian cinema and the TV serials seems to reinforce this image. The potrayal of police in all our movies and TVs is of a cop who beats on the suspects to get out a confession or the truth. Not only does the bad cop does that, but even the do-gooder cop also do it. The only difference being, good cop tortures a gooda (against whom there is absolutely no evidence) and gets him to fess-up.

This bad behaviour of the cops can be seen in real life too. Worse, nothing happens to these bad cops. In this latest instance, the cops in navi mumbai fired at rioters and killed 3 people. Why did they not use teargas or lathicharge? Was the crowd that violent? In that case how come the only deaths have been as a result of police firing?



<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Kadam blames police inaction for Navi Mumbai riots     

Mumbai, Mar 17: Leader of Opposition in Maharashtra Asembly Ramdas Kadam today launched a scathing attack on the "initial inaction" of the police during the group clashes in Navi Mumbai, that killed three persons, two in police firing, and injured 76 yesterday.

"The way police acted yesterday to control the mobs at Ghansoli in Navi Mumbai makes me wonder if the Home Minister had given orders to the police to kill people on the spot," Kadam said during a discussion on an adjournment motion on the Navi Mumbai riots.

Kadam said he visited the spot after the group clashes between Ghansoli villagers and Mathadi workers. "I can say from what I gathered that had the local police inspector Pathan promptly acted to diffuse tension after the eve-teasing incident, the deaths of three people in police firing later could have been averted," he said.

Kadam alleged that Pathan opened fire without following due procedures like preceding it with a lathi-charge and also violated the norm which stipulate firing below the waist. "He did not fire in the air but aimed directly at the chest," Kadam said.

He demanded that Pathan be suspended immediately and a murder case be registered against him.

Kadam said he had visited "eight to nine people injured in the firing" admitted to local hospitals. "I found out that except for one person, all others had bullet injuries above the waist", he said.

Of the 76 injured, 22 were policemen, Kadam said. The stone-pelting was so intense that even a DCP (Amar Jadhav) sustained serious injuries although he was wearing a helmet, he said.

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Chili's Heat Kills Prostate Cancer Cells

By Steven Reinberg
HealthDay Reporter 2 hours, 8 minutes ago

THURSDAY, March 16 (HealthDay News) -- Capsaicin, the component that gives jalapeno peppers their heat, may also kill prostate cancer cells, a new study suggests.


Initial experiments in cancer cells and mice show that capsaicin causes prostate cancer cells to undergo a kind of suicide. Researchers speculate that, in the future, pills containing capsaicin might be used as therapy to prevent prostate cancer's return.

According to their report, capsaicin caused almost 80 percent of prostate cancer cells in the mice to die. In addition, prostate cancer tumors treated with capsaicin were about one-fifth the size of tumors in untreated mice.

"Capsaicin inhibits the growth of human prostate cancer cell in Petri dishes and mice," said lead researcher Dr. H. Phillip Koeffler, director of hematology and oncology at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center and a professor of medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles. Based on the findings, Koeffler believe the next step is a trial to see if it works in patients with prostate cancer.

The report appears in the March 15 issue of Cancer Research.

Capsaicin probably has several effects, Koeffler said. Most noticeable is its effect in blocking NF-kappa Beta, a molecular mechanism that promotes cancer cell growth, he noted.

In addition, capsaicin also was effective against leukemia, and might be effective in slowing or preventing the growth of other cancers as well, he added.

But it's still too early to reach for the chili sauce, Koeffler said.

"I am not recommending that people increase their consumption of peppers," he said. "Our calculation is that you would have to eat 10 habanera peppers three times a week, which would be equivalent to the amount of capsaicin we gave to the mice."

The researcher believes capsaicin could someday gain a place in adjuvant prostate cancer therapy. For example, it might be used after prostate surgery to kill cancer cells in patients whose blood PSA levels start to rise, indicating the presence of tumors too small to be seen, he said.

The study does highlight the crossover that can occur between conventional and alternative therapies. "We should take note of herbal medicines and then use modern-day techniques to find what the active compounds are and bring them into clinical trials," Koeffler said.

One expert thinks it's too early to know if capsaicin will ever be an effective prostate cancer treatment, however.

"Since large amounts of capsaicin have never been given to people, we don't know what the side effects might be," cautioned Dr. Len Lichtenfeld, deputy chief medical officer at the
American Cancer Society. "We don't know about the right dose or anything."

Lichtenfeld believes that any trial should be done in patients who are not responsive to other standard therapies. "We are ways away from a clinical trial," he said. "We need more basic research before we start treating patients."

Another expert concurred.

"This study does not prove that capsaicin will prove effective in the treatment of prostate cancer in humans," said Dr. David L. Katz, an associate professor of public health and director of the Prevention Research Center at Yale University School of Medicine. "Nor does it tell us that eating peppers rich in the substance will help prevent such cancer, or forestall its growth. But it provides a compelling argument for clinical study of capsaicin in human prostate cancer to put these questions to the test."

"This paper should serve to remind us that herbal remedies and pharmacotherapy are often of common origins, differing only in our capacity to identify, purify and package the active ingredients," Katz said. "This work suggests that the conventional medical community should turn a discriminating eye, rather than a jaded eye, toward time-honored herbal treatments. Many will doubtless prove ineffective when put to the test of high-quality research. But some will pass that test, and we must meticulously distinguish between them."

The Spread of myth of
“Doubting Thomas” by South Indian Historians!

Now, it is evident that a vested group inside SIHC works faithfully to spread “the Doubting Thomas” myth through their proceedings, which is reportedly meant for secular and scientific history. When Dr. B. Maria John, Reader in History, Manonmaniyam Sundaranar University, Tiruynelveli read a paper on January 21, 2005, he was asked by another participant delegate many questions for which he could not answer.

The sectional President Prof A. R. Ramachansdra Reddy was clearly convinced about the motivated attempt of the paper presenter. But, what is surprising is that the unhistorical paper containing only myth, trash etc., has been appearing in the proceeding volume distributed during the 26th session of SIHC held at Bangalore during conference held from March 3rd to 5th 2006.

“St. Thomas, the Indian Apostle” has been printed in the pages 680-683. Interestingly, the volume has been edited by the Chief Editor Dr. B. S. Chandra Babu with members of the Editorial Committee –

Prof. B. Narasingaraja Naidu, Bangalore.
Prof. G. Sethuraman, Madurai.
Prof. Yenadhi Raju, Tirupati.
Prof. K. Gopalan Kutty Calicut.

Therefore, even if A. R. Ramachandra Reddy was reluctant to recommend considering the dubious nature of the paper, these professors of history from their respective universities must have impressed upon him to recommend for publication or otherwise, as the paper is appearing in the volume as noted above. Why these professors being historians and all want to support and spread the myth of doubting Thomas in India? Why they want to accommodate such blatant lies and thereby become “liars of Indian history”? To know the facts, the conduct of the 25th session of SIHC has to be analyzed.

There has been a “historical fight” between the historians Dr. D. Daniel and Dr. D. Janaki and the reasons are not known. See the version of Dr. D. Daniel appearing in the proceeding volume reproduced below for convenience.

As Dr. D. Daniel has been the General Secretary, the Christians decided to support and save his face. The Pillar Guest House came forward to provide food and accommodation to the delegates. Of course, though food was common to everybody (it is entirely a different story that some of the delegates could not get lunch daily), accommodation was restricted only to the coterie of the SIHC. Many delegates openly accepted that but for the Christian support, Daniel could not have conducted the session. Having helped, the co-called “Silver Jubilee Session” was conducted with the Christian help. Thus, the Church must have dictated the editorial committee to accommodate the Christian supporting articles / papers with its vested interests through Dr. D. Daniel. A close study of 154 papers selected for publication shows the following trend:

Papers published under different sections Total papers Presented by Christians Christian supporting papers
Political 35 9 4
Social 44 12 10
Economic 19 4 2
Cultural 45 5 3
Hist. & Matritime 10 1 -
Total 154 31 19

Thus totally 50 out of 154 papers have been thus presented by Christians and Christian supporting writers. Of course “against non-Christian category” might be also clubbed together, but not done. In any case, the Christian bias and the influence are clearly noted and recorded.

It is unfortunate that the scholars proclaiming themselves historians have stooped down such level to support and spread unhistorical lies, deceits and fabrications. It is well known fact that as to how the former Archbishop Arulappa was involved in such fabrication with the engaged self styled Professor Dr. Acharya Paul only to spread the “Thomas myth”. It is a fact that Archbishop Arulappa took Professor Dr. Acharya Paul to the then Pope through Cardinal Retzinger, the present Pope! It is better historians to keep away from this type of “history fabricators”, as otyerwise, the involved historians have to held responsible for their “unhistorical activities and alliances”.

The fundamental mistake that most people make is assuming that
the villain is Pakistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia

As early as 1350, in the hindu kingdom of kerala, with 2% muslims,
per Ibn Batuta, muslims were rioting often

The standard secular discourse is that hindutva is radicalising Indian muslims

If we look at the period 1919-1947, during the presence of Gandhi,
muslims went on numerous riots killing millions of people


In places where muslims have been subjected to great violence such
as in Indian Punjab, muslims are very peaceful

The post independence muslim behavior has been
Let me kill hindus,
kill cows,
molest and abduct hindu women
Change demographics by overbreeding or illegal immigration
convert using saudi funds
Whitewash muslim atrocities
Give in to demands such as article 370, Shah Bano etc

ELSE
will riot

The one new twist is
if hindus retaliate, will get help from Pakistan to set off bomb blasts

The choice they give to hindus is get killed by the local muslim
acting alone ELSE get killed with pakistani help

What this shows is that muslims are very willing to climb the escalation
ladder unless matched with reciprocal escalating violence

Case in point
1992 - muslims riot in Mumbai
Hindus retaliate
Muslims bomb Mumbai

Hindus fail to escalate

This hindu failure to escalate has emboldened muslim bombing all
over India

The correct preferred way against Indian Jihadists is strict law enforcement
However, thanks to vote banks that will not happen

Next at some point frustrated with no law enforcement
a hindu mob forms

The correct target for the mob is the local madrasa, mullah, mosque,
not average muslims

In interrogations with jihadists, it has been discovered that
while they may be willing to die, they are deterred by reprisals against their family
members

Hence in a very crude and clumsy way, post Godhra reprisals
had some deterrent effect

Those hindus who advocate violence need to understand
that if the path of violence is chosen, it has to be followed up all the way a-la 1947 Indian Punjab,
else a few years later with better demographic ratio, muslims will again resort to
violence
If the path of violence is chosen, it is all or nothing

Counter breeding is more effective than counter rioting

Ask why we have maximum jihadi activity in kerala, UP, west bengal, Assam,
all ruled by seculars

whats it about them???

the whole world seems to revolve about them !!
the greatest men on earth are born amongst them!!
few people if any have come so close to TOTAL anhilation so many times and yet have managed to stay alive - and kicking (serious ass too, if i may add).

whats everyone opinion about the "chosen people"??

i cant think of a more remarkable set of peopel on the planet - and yet - the biggest blunder in all history is what the more astute members of this forum describe as "the original abrahamic mistake" or similar.

so i ask .... whats it about them?